Todd Spitzer Stops By

Yesterday our humble blog received an e-mail from Third Distrct Supervisorial candidate, Todd Spitzer asking us to publish a link to an article he had written for the OC Register about the charges leveled by the DA in the Kelly Thomas murder.

Sure, Todd. Here it is. Happy to oblige.

132 Replies to “Todd Spitzer Stops By”

  1. What do you expect from Todd? He’s in campaign mode. He doesn’t want to piss off the cops nor does he want to piss off the citizens outraged by Kelly’s brutal murder. So he plays both sides against the middle. Don’t ever forget that Todd is the one who voted to give the cops their 3%@50 pensions. Last time he was supervisor he did nothing to hold cops accountable for their actions. He has always been subservient to the police unions. So be very skeptical when he shows up at your doorstep and asks for your vote. Do your research. He is a slick politician who can charm the birds from the trees. Don’t fall for it. Don’t get suckered like you did with the 3 stooges on the Fullerton City Council. THINK before you vote.

    1. Someone voting for 3% at 50 really means nothing. Just about every council person around California voted for it. I know a majority of cities have it as well. No one said much the last 15 years about it either. Now that the economy crashed everyone wants to talk about it. It can’t be taken away from people that have it. The answer is what several cities are doing and that’s a two tier retirement system where new hires have the old system of 2% at 50.

  2. Gee, I was wondering how long it would take for Todd to make this issue relevant to himself.

    Aha! Marsy’s Law.

    Notice he didn’t actually use Rackauckas’ name once.

  3. Spitzer, weren’t you one of the chief architects of the cop culture of entitlement?

    How about an apology before any more self-serving rhetoric about who knows what?

    Instead of running for office (again and again and again) why don’t you get a real job in a law office somewhere.

  4. WITHOUT THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FULLERTON,THIS MURDER WAS BEING COVERED-UP.IT,S TIME WE THE PEOPLE TAKE BACK OUR CITY FROM THE THUG,S.THAT RUN IT IE DICK JONE,S AND THE GOOD OLD,OLD BOY,S

  5. From Spitzer’s article.

    “I believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges…

    Editorial reply: Don’t think so

    But it is difficult to imagine that in the absence of Ron Thomas’ activism and the attention he demanded to the brutality used against his son Kelly, that the same level of investigative resources would have been committed and the unrelenting attention and scrutiny of the DA’s handling of the case would have been the same. Bringing a lawsuit against the City of Fullerton and starting a recall against a majority of the city council members does have an impact.”

    From OCR yesterday:

    People’s movement forces D.A. to charge cops with Kelly Thomas murder
    First time in Orange County history
    By Doug Kauffman

    “The only reason these officers are now behind bars is the people’s movement that erupted in Fullerton demanding justice for Thomas and the arrest of the killer cops for murder. Rackauckas, a conservative, pro-cop Republican, who led the racist charge against the Irvine 11, did not want to charge these cops with any crime, but he had to. Rackauckas admitted that the public’s demands for “justice for Kelly” were a key factor in his decision.”

    http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/movement-forces-da-to.html

    I truly believe that those officers would still be out on the street, business as usual, if it were not for what this writer called the “People’s Movement”.

    It had to be condoned by the bosses, or they are just plain incompetent, or both.

    My personal belief is that the culture at FPD was encouraged.

  6. Todd is a very savvy politician. And he is right that Ron Thomas weighed heavily on the level of resources used by the DA.

  7. TIGERMANLSU :
    DON,T FORGET EVERY COP THAT SEE,S NO EVIL . IS GULITY OF MURDER!!! THE BLUE WALL MUST COME DOWN.MR.DARRELL BEZET,AKA LSU TIGER WHISPERER.

    You are right there. The cops witnessed a sadistic murder and they stood around bullshiting on our dime. How about the animals back at the police temple who enjoyed the execution in REAL TIME.
    They viewd and heard the extended gruesome public murder and did nothing. They all need to be fired and prosecuted, but it won’t happen they are to powerful.

  8. The Fullerton Savage :
    Where was Todd while we protested?

    Wake up, he was waiting for the D A to make a decision. He hid anticapating a dismissal of all charges. Todd was just as amazed that the D A gave in to the Kelly Thomas movement as the rest of us.

  9. Jane H :
    From Spitzer’s article.
    “I believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges…
    Editorial reply: Don’t think so
    But it is difficult to imagine that in the absence of Ron Thomas’ activism and the attention he demanded to the brutality used against his son Kelly, that the same level of investigative resources would have been committed and the unrelenting attention and scrutiny of the DA’s handling of the case would have been the same. Bringing a lawsuit against the City of Fullerton and starting a recall against a majority of the city council members does have an impact.”
    From OCR yesterday:
    People’s movement forces D.A. to charge cops with Kelly Thomas murder
    First time in Orange County history
    By Doug Kauffman
    “The only reason these officers are now behind bars is the people’s movement that erupted in Fullerton demanding justice for Thomas and the arrest of the killer cops for murder. Rackauckas, a conservative, pro-cop Republican, who led the racist charge against the Irvine 11, did not want to charge these cops with any crime, but he had to. Rackauckas admitted that the public’s demands for “justice for Kelly” were a key factor in his decision.”
    http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/movement-forces-da-to.html
    I truly believe that those officers would still be out on the street, business as usual, if it were not for what this writer called the “People’s Movement”.
    It had to be condoned by the bosses, or they are just plain incompetent, or both.
    My personal belief is that the culture at FPD was encouraged.

    Jane thanks for this link. I read the article. If the protests were continuing the D A would have threw this out. Then again it’s not over the D A will continue to take his orders from the cop union and the politicians on their payroll.

  10. http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=2581&returnurl=index%2Easp%3Fpage%3D8

    I have a lot of questions. When you look at the “evidence” the video length is what? 30 minutes?
    Where is the rest of the video? Is there video available prior to the encounter that shows what Kelly was doing in the minutes or hours prior to the encounter so we can see if he was even near any of the cars in the parking lot?

    How much investigation has been done to see if there any evidence of a phone call made?

  11. Todd “the Regurgitator” Spitzer looks like a prime example of people and politicians that will invariably be jumping on the bandwagon of “Kelly’s Army” to curry favor with the public. I for one was impressed with T-Rack’s mettle in bringing these charges, however the only lawyer that I truly believe would affect honest and sincere changes within the Orange County District Attorney’s office would be this man right here named Brian Gurwitz. This man has the moral turpitude of Moses himself.
    http://www.gurwitzlaw.com/

  12. Jane H :
    From Spitzer’s article.
    “I believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges…
    Editorial reply: Don’t think so
    But it is difficult to imagine that in the absence of Ron Thomas’ activism and the attention he demanded to the brutality used against his son Kelly, that the same level of investigative resources would have been committed and the unrelenting attention and scrutiny of the DA’s handling of the case would have been the same. Bringing a lawsuit against the City of Fullerton and starting a recall against a majority of the city council members does have an impact.”
    From OCR yesterday:
    People’s movement forces D.A. to charge cops with Kelly Thomas murder
    First time in Orange County history
    By Doug Kauffman
    “The only reason these officers are now behind bars is the people’s movement that erupted in Fullerton demanding justice for Thomas and the arrest of the killer cops for murder. Rackauckas, a conservative, pro-cop Republican, who led the racist charge against the Irvine 11, did not want to charge these cops with any crime, but he had to. Rackauckas admitted that the public’s demands for “justice for Kelly” were a key factor in his decision.”
    http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/movement-forces-da-to.html
    I truly believe that those officers would still be out on the street, business as usual, if it were not for what this writer called the “People’s Movement”.
    It had to be condoned by the bosses, or they are just plain incompetent, or both.
    My personal belief is that the culture at FPD was encouraged.

    ^^^THIS

    Is why the whole Farce needs REMOVED PERMANENTLY

    Public Servants PAID to PROTECT AND SERVE

    NOT MURDER AND TORTURE AND COVER UP SO THEY CAN KEEP DOING IT

    We’re screwed.. the patients are running the asylum

    V for Vendetta..

    How could any cop not look at what his fellow officers did to this small man and not just want to vomit and arrest them at the first chance he or she had?????????

    They are not pro peace or pro citizens or even HUMAN for all I am concerned

  13. ReaIity Is :
    dick ridin’

    I can agree with that.. just like your smurfs got all the politicians riding theirs..

    You should find that sickening if you even consider yourself a citizen before a cop

    1. Off topic for a moment for Reality IS

      Wow…”retard”…really? How incredibly offensive.There are so many choices of waord to be used there and you chose that one? I see maturity and evolution passed you by. This coming from a LE person(supposedly)? I know I shouldn’t be amazed, but I am. After saying that you think people should respect your opinion because??????

      I wonder how many of F6 called Kelly a retard before they beat him to death. My bet is 5 out of 6….giving one of them the benefit of the doubt.

      you disgust me.

        1. Looks like at least one admin agrees with Reality Is and checked the IP numbers, that ‘retard’ post is gone. Now what I would like to know is whose IP address that came from if it came from a frequent poster. Who’s the coward who attacks by hijacking another’s nick?

  14. Both Spitzer and his opponent for the supervisor’s job, Chuck Devore, are long-time politicians. But Devore isn’t the grandstander that Spitzer is. And, IMO, Devore’s more trustworthy. I didn’t see Devore suck up to the police unions as much as Spitzer. For some reason the Register loves to promote Spitzer and give him lots of press. The fact that he voted for the 3%@50 is an automatic fail. That was the deal buster for me. I would vote for Steve Rocco for supervisor before I would vote for Spitzer.

  15. A voice of sanity by Steve Lopez from the LA Times today:

    “Whether or not Kelly Thomas was the guy who was reportedly trying to break into vehicles, as police suspected, he died because he had a mental illness. He died because the officers either didn’t know how to handle such a situation, or they didn’t care.”

    None of this is drivel, if that’s what you meant, DMK.

  16. Even though most of what Spitzer says is true. It rings of politicking! T-Rack too. I’m sure T-Rack knew that if he didn’t file charges it would be the end of his job.

    1. Yeah, but he chose murder-unheard of for a cop in California! that might get him boxed in the ears-but it was the right call, wish he would have charged uniball with murder too and given the other 4 a manslaughter charge along with that unknown watch commander who stood by watch it on real time and didnt say anything-Hey anyone know the name of the person/animal that did that?
      Goodrich blimp ought to get someting charged on him for covering/perjury, so should Sellers with a manslaughtter charge, good thing for them im not the DA. I have a sneaking suspecion that T Rack is afraid to charge the others as he feels any other charges wont stick in court-especially if there is a cop lickin judge

  17. This is such double-speak! Which is it?

    ” I believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges irrespective of the community outcry for justice or the pressure from Ron Thomas”

    OR

    “But it is difficult to imagine that in the absence of Ron Thomas’ activism and the attention he demanded to the brutality used against his son Kelly, that the same level of investigative resources would have been committed and the unrelenting attention and scrutiny of the DA’s handling of the case would have been the same. Bringing a lawsuit against the City of Fullerton and starting a recall against a majority of the city council members does have an impact”

    Both of these statements cannot be true. No doubt in my mind and the minds of many others that those in the know were attempting to cover the incident up from the very beginning and because of the code of silence that is the FPD with support from the City Counsel, they might have been successful if not for FFFF, John & Ken at KFI and Ron Thomas!!!

  18. Go FFFF :
    Even though most of what Spitzer says is true. It rings of politicking! T-Rack too. I’m sure T-Rack knew that if he didn’t file charges it would be the end of his job.

    This.

  19. LIF, that person is obviously here solely to try to get under people’s skin.

    I suggest you not give give the acknowledgement (and in his mind, legitimacy) that he seeks.

  20. Jane H :
    A voice of sanity by Steve Lopez from the LA Times today:
    “Whether or not Kelly Thomas was the guy who was reportedly trying to break into vehicles, as police suspected, he died because he had a mental illness. He died because the officers either didn’t know how to handle such a situation, or they didn’t care.”
    None of this is drivel, if that’s what you meant, DMK.

    IMHO.. anyone that doesn’t outright say the whole truth.. is a chump

    Where are the true reporters and journalists who will call out Chief Sellers and the FPD6’s commanding officers..

    They are all murderers.. THEY WATCHED THE VIDEO and let them keep badges, guns, tasers, night sticks.. etc

    Just wait til the videos go viral all over the world..

  21. Spitzer is the Legal Affairs Director of Marsy’s Law as per the by line in the column. He was also the state campaign chair for that proposition. All he was doing was thanking Ron Thomas and Kelly’s Heroe’s for making such an impact–that the crime victims prevailed at least at this point. Check your facts. Spitzer has been a crime VICTIM advocate his entire career and now represents crime VICTIMS in criminal cases.

    1. You have to understand, fact don’t matter and no one gets credit here for anything unless it’s the protesters patting themselves on the back.

      1. what the hell does that mean? I know for sure People on this blog do all kinds of heroic, humane, generous and sacrificing things and tell no one-they dont get credit and dont want any-if you do something expecting to get “credit” you’re doing it for the wrong reason

  22. Spitzer is a prick… I was chosen for jury duty on a DUI case when Spitzer was a prosecutor… he chose me during jury selection because on paper, I looked like a white, Republican, insurance salesman (the defendant was black). He thought my opinion was what I looked like… he looked at me when I was speaking to the judge with a smile on his face… as if I were a drop in the bucket. When I explained that I had a mistrust of police for some things that police did to me, the look on his face quickly turned sour as if he had lost one of his babies.

    1. If this is the standard, then all criminal attorney’s, prosecutors and defenders, are pricks.

      Every prosecutor and defense attorney attempts to empanel a jury favorable to his or her client, not just because they want to win, but because they are obligated to do so. Obligated to their clients (defendants and us, the people) and to the standards and practices of their profession.

    2. So that’s why your against the police – Revenge – Has nothing to do with Kelly Thomas. How sour did your face just get?

  23. Spitzer: “The legal theory that jail deputies were criminally liable for sharing Chamberlain’s booking charges of possessing child pornography with inmates, knowing that such information would bring harm to Chamberlain, could have resulted in prosecutions under a similar theory of malice in second degree murder being used against Officer Ramos – that his actions set a series of events in motion resulting in a human being’s death. But it didn’t because we were told the investigation didn’t bear out that jail deputies shared Chamberlain’s booking information…. … The Thomas case, arguably, is different.”

    It’s not just “arguably different.” It’s definitively different.

    Yes, the ‘theory’ is similar but not the actual law. I’ll post this again because it’s worth understanding for the comfort it provides in knowing T-rack filed a very solid case: Ramos’ second degree murder charge doesn’t depend on theory OR malice, instead it is rooted in our state’s Felony Murder Rule which says that when a homicide occurs during the commission of a felony, the actor committing the felony can be charged with second degree murder. Example: Three gang bangers drive by a house, wave their guns around and one of the passengers caps off a kid sitting on the porch. Even though the driver wasn’t the shooter, he was involved in the commission of felony at the time of the killing; as a result, because there was a homicide, the driver is on the hook for second degree murder. In this case, even if Ramos had never touched Thomas, he could have still been charged with second degree murder for having been involved in the commission of a felony (manslaughter) at the time the homicide occurred. In the Chamberlain case, there was no underlying felony. As I understand it, even if it could have been proven that the deputies leaked the Chamberlain child porn arrest info to the prisoners who beat him, the DA couldn’t find the felony within that act needed to invoke the Felony Murder Rule.

    Spitzer: Even during the DA’s press event, Ron Thomas was not invited to be present because the “office does not normally have the victim present during a press conference.”
    Representatives from the FPD were not invited either. Legit media only, no reps from either side: Standard operating procedure, and for good reason It was a ‘press conference’ not a hearing.

    Spitzer: “I believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges irrespective of the community outcry for justice or the pressure from Ron Thomas. The evidence is just too overwhelming against these officers based on the information shared thus far; evidence none of us imagined existed to the degree it apparently is captured in video and audio and witness accounts.”

    Spitzer has this exactly right. The audio of Ramos saying his fists were getting ready to fuck Thomas up is indeed “evidence none of us imagined existed to the degree it apparently” does. When I predicted weeks ago that T-rack would bring serious charges, my opinion was partly based on just two important known pieces of evidence, the pole camera video and the upcoming final autopsy results which I expected (and hoped) would be in line with the medical records. It turned out better than I’d dare hoped: The autopsy and cause of death were far more favorable to prosecution than the medical records, and now we know we apparently have extremely powerful audio. Not only was there no cover-up, the DA’s investigation produced this additional evidence which subjected Ramos to murder charges!

    Spitzer: “Ron Thomas’ activism is something to be commended and emulated.”

    This cannot be taken away from Ron under any circumstances. As I’ve said before, most families would have taken the money, in this case, nearly $1 million, and walked away, sad but perhaps content that the troublesome family member had met his own inevitable fate, with a million bucks to ease the pain. In Laguna Beach, back when FPD Chief Sellers’ was our chief, a homeless drug abuser was tased to death while in custody in our local jail. That family was content to quietly go away with less than a fourth of what it was suggested to Ron the Fullerton City Council would agree to offer. Ron Thomas is the hero in all of this, despite what his murderous thug police-apologist detractors have been saying.
    Thanks for posting the link Tony. Good stuff.

    1. How many times are you going to post about the felony murder rule.??? Boring. No one is interested in your opinion! Contrary to your belief, you are not an expert. I think that you think that you magically become one once you’ve read an article or two. Then you proceed to repeatedly regurgitate it til the point of us vomiting.

  24. We need a new leadership in Fullerton. The good old politicans are incompetent and as useless as we can see. Beside their normal funtion, all these public officials are working for Untouchable and Powerful Cop Unions behind the scence.
    This is a simple reasons we have the entire coruppted cultures everywhere you turn in Fullerton and Orange County and will last forever. These corrupted leaders surround themselves and well connected. Nobody would dare to stand up and speak up. Unless you bring the entire systems down or waiting for its overweight self-destruction.
    Fullerton people are used to submission unless something drammatically happen. Human and politic are very complex: Fullerton has both.

  25. Fullerton is ready for major changes and talk is cheap. Kelly Thomas’s death has shown: nobody trust politicans and cop anymore. Current Fullerton city officials and politicans are cowardice, useless, and incompetent with too much promises in the past.
    Todd Spitzer, Third Distrct Supervisorial candidate, needs to take bold actions, lead the packs, willing to take risks against tyrany at huge loss and prove himself to the public.
    Fool Me Once, Shame on You. Fool Me Twice Shame on Me.

  26. MeYou :

    Jane H :
    A voice of sanity by Steve Lopez from the LA Times today:
    “Whether or not Kelly Thomas was the guy who was reportedly trying to break into vehicles, as police suspected, he died because he had a mental illness. He died because the officers either didn’t know how to handle such a situation, or they didn’t care.”
    None of this is drivel, if that’s what you meant, DMK.

    IMHO.. anyone that doesn’t outright say the whole truth.. is a chump
    Where are the true reporters and journalists who will call out Chief Sellers and the FPD6′s commanding officers..
    They are all murderers.. THEY WATCHED THE VIDEO and let them keep badges, guns, tasers, night sticks.. etc
    Just wait til the videos go viral all over the world..

    It’s all over. They will all walk away with outrageous pension packages and have the last laugh. Sellers is out on $5000 a week with high blood pressure and stress. HEHE ALL fullerton city employees need to do a disability with the same symptoms. Make an appt with sellers corrupt doctor.

  27. I have a question?
    Who is the DOCTOR who allowed SELLERS to crawl away on DISABILITY?
    DOES THIS DOCTOR HAVE HISTORY OF PUTTING CORRUPT COPS OUT ON DISABILITY? MIGHT BE WORTH INVESTIGATING. AFTER ALL THESE MONSTERS WILL DO NO TIME. THEY CAN ONLY BE PUNISHED BY GOING AFTER THEIR POCKETBOOKS.

    1. You guys won’t stop! Just because someone is part of this situation you call them corrupt. Who’s next the priest, minister or pastor who visits them in jail?

  28. “Reality is” has been using several different screen names. He has even admitted that himself.

    One of the admins even said earlier that all of the posts from the trolls are coming from the same 2 or 3 people (I’m assuming they knew this by looking at IP addresses). We already know who they are – Reality Is, jaynbound, and Allen.

    But Reality Is has used multiple screen names, and so has jaynbound. Jaynbound is going by the name “Wow” now. Any other cop kiss-up comments can be attributed to them using multiple screen names.

    So out of the hundreds of people who have been commening on the blog and recognize the Kelly Thomas incident for what it is – a horrific murder by 6 rogue cops…2 or 3 cop kiss-ups isn’t bad. 2 or 3 out of hundreds isn’t a bad number.

    After all, there are still people in the world who think the Earth is flat.

    1. Way to make it look like more than it is with me. Same old shit on here.

      I have said when I used a different one. I used them for a few posts and then not again. Two or three times was when I tried to post and it was blocked for some reason.

      I dispute your number that hundreds are posting on here too. It’s all good though. Exaggeration is common theme in this world.

  29. Fullerton :
    Fullerton is ready for major changes and talk is cheap. Kelly Thomas’s death has shown: nobody trust politicans and cop anymore. Current Fullerton city officials and politicans are cowardice, useless, and incompetent with too much promises in the past.
    Todd Spitzer, Third Distrct Supervisorial candidate, needs to take bold actions, lead the packs, willing to take risks against tyrany at huge loss and prove himself to the public.
    Fool Me Once, Shame on You. Fool Me Twice Shame on Me.

    WHAT A SURPRISE.

  30. Too many trolls and imps for this adult to handle. My sincere apologies if that wasn’t you RI, I had no way of knowing. It still disgusts me, but I suppose that was the point.

    now we have to worry about anyone using Capital “I” can be imped with lower case “L”? Good grief. I don’t have the energy to play this game, carry on. Sorry again RI.

    admin-for my last post on this blog….. was the “retard” post you deleted the same IP as the “retard” spouting FullertonWatcher in what is now post #37? just curious.

  31. It was ReaIity Is (capital I replacng the l) who called me a “retard” for my post asking if Todd Spitzer had been fired from the DA’s office

  32. Reality Is :
    True. I never saw it. Wasn’t me though.

    I trust him because I saw some random one liners this morning with his name that I knew weren’t him. but that doesn’t mean the early Sept ones weren’t him

  33. Okay I made the “Hi” post as Reality Ls just now. I wanted to see if switching usernames is really that easy.

    Apparently it is.

    However I’ll stick with this name exclusively.

  34. Oops okay now I’m back.

    I went to the protest today. Bigger turnout than I thought. Got to meet Ron Thomas too.

    1. Right up above? I was just talking in general. When someone switches names all over the place you can see them posting all in a row as it happens.

  35. My Username Rocks :
    Oops okay now I’m back.
    I went to the protest today. Bigger turnout than I thought. Got to meet Ron Thomas too.

    Great I hope the crowds continual to grow. After awhile the D A will try to squash the case. The pressure from the unions must be painful.
    The D A wants to stay on the gravy train.

  36. Reality Is, you are the only one who has ever whined about your screen name being “blocked.” And you only said that after people caught on to the fact that you were using multiple screen names, based on the similaries in the posts (same tone, same writing style with using fragmented sentences and in some cases you were even caught posting the same exact post under different screen names).

    I’ve been using the exact same name since the very beginning. And, wouldn’t you know it, my first name really is Chris. I don’t give out my last name specifically because of people like you. I don’t know for sure whether you are a cop, but just the idea of it scares me. If you are a cop, you have the exact same mentality as the cop in Baltimore who assaulted that little 14 year old kid. You think people had better respect you or else. And you think you can get away with anything, and you love the fact that an entire corrupt police department would cover for you.

    Like I said before, if indeed you really are a cop (I still have my doubts), I think you are a Jay Cicinelli in the making. Or at the very least, another “Officer Rivieri.”

    Have you assaulted any 14 year old kids lately because they didn’t give you enough “respect”, Reality Is?

    Oh sure, you might not be as bad as Jay Cicinelli or Manny Ramos. You haven’t beat anyone to death. Not yet.

    1. I think I said in my posts that I thought I was blocked. No clue what was going on. I would post and it wouldn’t show up. From work, you can read this blog and you can’t post at all. So think what you want. I really don’t care, was just making it known.

      You are way off and reading my post how you want to read it. You are biased and nothing anyone says is going to change that. I spoke of your type earlier on a post. That’s fine you are that way, it’s your right. Just stop making shit up about me. I don’t make shit up about you.

      I’ve been doing it 25 years and never had an issue. I know how to do the job, I know how to supervise the new cops. I respect the job, the community, and I’m very aware of what Reality Is.

      I’ve shot people to death. Never beat anyone to death. Hard to do.

      I’ve yelled at a 14 year old once or twice. In the house of their parents when they asked me too. I’ve had to use a taser and pepper spray on some 15 year olds. You ever been to a high school fight? Jesus. What a mess. Scary as hell. Kids are nuts these days.

      Anyways, you made your stance very clear. We don’t see eye to eye and never will. See ya around.

  37. Reality is,

    If even half of what you just said is true, you’re even worse than I thought.

    So you shot someone to death? I would really like to know under what circumstances that happened. I’m sure plenty of other people would too.

    I would also like to know the circumstances where you tasered and pepper sprayed the kids.

    I don’t expect you to elaborate here, and you don’t need to because I’m going to find out on my own. You’ve given enough information in your posts for me to find out who you are and what department you work for. And I will.

    No, you don’t “love the community.” Your posts, which should a flagrant disregard for citizens’ rights and an arrogant demand that everyone respect and love you, show that you view everyone as a criminal, and if people don’t give you the instant fear and respect that you demand, well, they’ll get what’s coming to them.

    If you really are a cop, I’m going to find out more about you and where you work. Because at this moment, you have gone from a provacative troll to another possibly rogue cop who should be outed.

  38. If “Reality Is” is really a cop, here are some facts we know about him so far.

    – He shot someone to death (under who knows what circumstances)

    – He pepper sprayed and tasered a 15 yeard old kid, during what he claims was a fight at a high school.

    – He most likely lives in southern California, or at least lived there at one time, based on knowledge he seems to have about where places are, and mentioning places specifically by name, such as Newport Beach and Corona.

    That, combined with some other statements he has made here, and it shouldn’t be too hard to find out who he is. And maybe once people have uncovered enough about who he might be and what he has done, I’ll bet someone could talk with Tony or Travis in private and they might be kind enough to at least say which city the posts are coming from. If you have an IP address, all you have to do is go to the WhoIs website and do a search by IP address and you can find out who their ISP is, and the city. It doesn’t give an actual address, of course, just the city. But that’s all we would need.

    If what “Reality Is” has said is true, then I’m sure there’s a news article somewhere about the shooting. Even if it was 20 years ago. After all, people are still talking about the Rodney King beating. Then you have the tasing and pepper spray use, which by his own words, probably happened fairly recently. Within the past few years or so.

    All I would want to know is if Reality Is is really a cop, and who he is and what city he works in.

    And I just might start working on that. Because like I said, if you look at the other posts he was making weeks ago, then you can tell he has a flagrant disregard for citizens’ rights and he demands that everyone loves and respects him…or else.

    We’re not done, Reality Is. I’m going to find out who you are and what department you work for. If you really are a cop, you won’t be for much longer.

  39. I did not make that Dickstabs McGee post.

    I’m not typically in favor of IP bans but in the case of usernames being hijacked it’s definitely warranted.

  40. What I don’t understand is how they weren’t able to pin 1st degree murder on Ramos if they have him threatening a victim before he was murdered…the description of Ramos putting on his gloves seems methodical and thought out…which would be premeditation…1st degree murder is also defined if there is “excessive brutality” anyone who has seen the horrible Kelly Thomas photo that would seem to be excessive.

  41. I knew Todd from his days as a Brea School Trustee.

    He is endlessly ambitious, and a indefatigable ego maniac. But he isn’t stupid. He knows that FFFF is the biggest thing in OC right about now.

  42. Well, it might take a little while for me to find out who “Reality Is” and whether or not he is actually a cop, and what department he works for.

    But like I said, some facts known so far:

    – He shot someone to death (under who knows what circumstances)

    – He tased and pepper sprayed a 15 year old kid, probably relatively recently. Maybe within the past 2 or 3 years. This happened during what he claims was a fight at a high school.

    – He most likely lives in California, or did at one time

    – He is most likely in his early or mid-40’s. (He said that he has been on the job for 25 years, so we can extrapolate his age if he joined the police in his 20’s).

    – He might live somewhere in Orange County, but I don’t think he actually lives in Fullerton. And I highly doubt he works in the FPD. I suppose it’s possible though.

    If any of what he said is true, it’s just a matter of putting the puzzle pieces together. But it will take some time and work. Unfortunately, there are so many police shootings and incidents where cops have tased and pepper sprayed people (even kids), that it will take a while to narrow it down.

    I thought I remember a time not that long ago when a police officer using his weapon was considered a very last resort, and something he was REMORSEFUL about for years. Even if it was justified and the officer had to do it, he still regretted having to do it. When I was in elementary school, we had a program called DARE, where police officers would come to the school and talk to kids. I remember my friends asking the cop afterward if he ever shot anyone, and he said no, and that he prayed he would NEVER have to.

    In the past, cops did not want to shoot people and that was the absolute last resort.

    But now, it seems like they will happily draw their firearms and shoot someone with the slightest provocation (or even no provocation at all).

    My parents have told me that even in the 1980’s, cops didn’t act the way they do now. Heck, until the Rodney King incident, they probably wouldn’t have been this way even in the 90’s.

    So what is going on with cops now? Why have they turned into trigger-happy animals?

    And is “Reality Is” one of them?

    1. It really just depends on the cop I think. Some cops are very pro active and arrest some of the most hardcore gangsters and criminals everyday. Some get a gun off the street everyday. Chases, fights, everyday. These cops are more prone to get into shootings, use force, fights, and other stuff.

      Other cops are the other extreme. They just drive around and answer calls for service, make arrests on calls they are sent on, and that’s about it.

      Just like any other job. Some very active, high energy cops and some lazy cops. Some in the middle. Shootings, chases, fights, force, complaints probably align along those same lines.

      1. yes, Id looooove that and I’ll even stop to buy a dozen a donuts-maybe hes that fat fuck, bald albino with the latex gloves on-ready to check an anus, who sets up the street roadblocks with the 4 other squad cars and stares at us for 1/2 hour then they all do a blue devil with their cars and squeal off-precious and very dramatic-seriously they should film that little ditty

  43. My Username Rocks :
    I did not make that Dickstabs McGee post.
    I’m not typically in favor of IP bans but in the case of usernames being hijacked it’s definitely warranted.

    There needs to be a login system at this site with enforceable privacy polices.

  44. tony :

    My Username Rocks :
    Oops okay now I’m back.
    I went to the protest today. Bigger turnout than I thought. Got to meet Ron Thomas too.

    Great I hope the crowds continual to grow. After awhile the D A will try to squash the case. The pressure from the unions must be painful.
    The D A wants to stay on the gravy train.

    My HONEST opinion.. this has the potential to grow worldwide if people would do all they could to contact every single person of influence they can imagine and see if they give a fuck or not.. yes I cursed on purpose.

    Lady GaGa is taking on childhood bullying.. well. this is way bigger

    Hollywood actors need to get involved with this in a BIG WAY…

    KILLER COPS should scare every cell of every UNITED STATES CITIZEN…

    Killer Cops NEED PUT DOWN (incarcerated) just like a rabid pit bull

  45. MeYou :

    tony :

    My Username Rocks :
    Oops okay now I’m back.
    I went to the protest today. Bigger turnout than I thought. Got to meet Ron Thomas too.

    Great I hope the crowds continual to grow. After awhile the D A will try to squash the case. The pressure from the unions must be painful.
    The D A wants to stay on the gravy train.

    My HONEST opinion.. this has the potential to grow worldwide if people would do all they could to contact every single person of influence they can imagine and see if they give a fuck or not.. yes I cursed on purpose.
    Lady GaGa is taking on childhood bullying.. well. this is way bigger
    Hollywood actors need to get involved with this in a BIG WAY…
    KILLER COPS should scare every cell of every UNITED STATES CITIZEN…
    Killer Cops NEED PUT DOWN (incarcerated) just like a rabid pit bull

    I AGREE

  46. spitzer” believe the district attorney did the right thing in this case and would have filed these charges irrespective of the community outcry for justice or the pressure from Ron Thomas.” If not for ron thomas and FFFF, bankhead, mckinley, jones,and FPD chief sellers would not have been exposed to the public as culpable for the abuses done by FPD. these men refused to remedy the problem of Fullerton police abuses. Instead these men retained FPD officers who were clearly unfit to serve the public evidenced by the revelation of other crimes committed by FPD when on-duty and off-duty. These men were not present at the beating death of kelly thomas. Yet, their approval of this beating was present from the minute Ramos had Kelly sitting down until five days later when kelly was taken off of life-support. spitzer’s oblique advice that the public should shut its mouth and let law enforcement and the DA solely handle the FPD’s pattern of police brutality is so yesterday. Spitzer, Rackauckas, Jones, McKinley, Bankhead, Goodrich, Sellers must embrace the fact that we the people refuse to take orders from them to sit down, like kelly thomas did, and shut up

  47. This letter below was in the Whittier Daily news.
    I read it and it broke my heart. Corruption is all over. I am telling you it starts at the top. If the Chiefs are corrupt everyone below them are.

    Re: The Fullerton police officer who donned gloves and told homeless and schizophrenic Kelly Thomas, “Now see my fists? They are getting ready to F you up.” Good to see the cop is finally facing murder charges, although four of the six cops won’t face any charges for killing this man. What is scary is that had this incident not been recorded on recording devices by the public, these police officers would have gotten away with murder. They still might. They say he was “resisting arrest” and not following orders. This is the cops’ standard excuse for beating up the public.
    What is even scarier is that this behavior is just the tip of the iceberg; police and sheriff’s department beatings happen all of the time behind closed doors where they are never recorded by horrified bystanders and where nothing is done even if the behavior is reported in an “incident report.”

    My son survived one of these beatings in 2008 where he was put into a room, handcuffed to a stationary object, sprayed in the face with pepper spray which threw him into a severe asthmatic attack, then put into a choke hold and beaten and kicked while he was blinded with pepper spray and fighting to breathe. He was left in the room for hours before someone even offered him a rag to wipe off the pepper spray. Nobody was there to film this incident and reporting it to the Sheriff’s Department didn’t even warrant a return phone call. And you know what? This happened after the Sheriff’s Department was
    notified that my son is schizophrenic and they had finished transporting him to a facility to “better meet his psychiatric needs.”
    This is what it means to “serve and protect” these days. And the public has no recourse against the cops who feel they can get away with whatever they want to because there is no penalty paid by these rogue cops and no video of the beatings most of the time. The lawyers I contacted about my son’s case said it would cost over $100,000 just to find out what happened, and that in most of these cases “incident reports disappear and witnesses dry up.” Good luck to Kelly Thomas’ family. I hope you get the justice my son never got. But I still have my son alive, no thanks to the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department, and my heart goes out to the Thomas family.

    Judy L. Kinder

    Hacienda Heights

  48. Kyle MacLachlan, excuse me! Todd Spitzer needs to lay low.
    He did not say anything before and now he steers us to check out his stinkin’ link with ad in OVERDOSE mode.

    I did not bother to read but one page and I barely skimmed over it

  49. Spitzer is an opportunist and as said earlier, in “campaign mode”. He’s finding every opportunity to get his name out there. Doesn’t lend much to his creditability and is a big turn-off.

  50. Todd Spitzer is facing a recall in Orange County. There are many people who feel he should be imprisoned. There is even a hashtag #ToddSpitzerforPrison2022. I recommend check it out.

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