129 thoughts on “OC Weekly Names Travis Kiger “Best New Public Official” of 2012

    1. And he’s done more good in four months than Flory, Bankhead, Jone, and McPension did in their collective 107 years on the Council.

      Bahhhhhha haaaaaa!

      1. What an easy award. Some kind of Guiness Record to be named that after only 4 months. WOW! Is Bushala lining the pockets at OC Weekly or what?

    2. We all need to get over to the City Council this next Tuesday to speak out against the candidates that the FFA and the FPOA have been harassing Kiger and Whitaker all summer for…Alvarez and Flory.

      Both of these candidates have sat back all summer long while the police union orchestrated attacks on Kiger and Whitaker through the likes of MADD and the teachers union flunkie, Pam Keller.

      I hope the residents see through this, however I plan on showing my support next Tuesday at the City Council meeting for Kiger and Whitaker, and start speaking out against the FFA/FPOA flunkies, Jan Flory and Rick Alvarez.

      1. What about the “orchestrated” attacks on Flory and anyone else who disagrees with the politics on this blog? Sounds like all of you can dish it out, but can’t take it.

        1. Stop whining Flory! If you can’t handle the criticism and humor behing it, get out of politics; you’re worthless anyways.

    3. Does Moxley tickle there in your pocket, Tony — aka “Gadfly of the Year.” Hire him, Tony. He badly wants to be hired.

        1. And yours is the only comment from the article:

          “And they’d like the city to declare bankruptcy so that they can wipe out the public unions, destroy public services like libraries, renege on pensions, and install a worker’s anti-paradise. Why did you leave out so many of the “good parts”?”

          You just can’t stop, can you?

          1. Please refrain from responding to Greg Diamond’s quotes in order to keep his fat head from becoming any fatter than it already is.

          2. What part of that do you deny, Jane.

            (Oops, forgot — you won’t answer now.)

            What part of that does anyone here deny?

      1. Yes, Gregory A. Diamond: Travis and Tony made the Best of OC list because they actually do meaningful things with their lives. Given that you–an unemployed Brea labor lawyer with a mysterious past that includes Third World pleasure fantasies–are running the most lazy, non-existent Democrat state senate campaign in memory and that your daily objective is to write obnoxious blog comments, there is perhaps a prominent slot for you in the Weekly’s upcoming annual “Scariest People in OC” list. But then again perhaps not. You are, after all, a nobody.

        1. Writing under your own name now, Moxley — nice change. And to wade into hostile territory like this — how brave?

          Self-employed, no mysterious past (and by the way, are there ANY photos of you on line at all?), no “Third World pleasure fantasies” (unlike, say, someone who supposedly spends quality time in Garden Grove), not “no campaign,” and I presume that you’ll use any power to humiliate your enemies (without addressing any facts) while you still have the power to do so. Sucking up to Tony is a smart career move for you, though. At least, you’d better hope so.

          1. Dearest Blogger/Candidate/Unemployed Lawyer Diamond:

            Your pronounced, desperate paranoia coupled with your laziness and arrogance has turned you into a rare specimen–something akin to a substance a horrified doctor stares at in a jar after a patient hampered with a toxic mix of the Asian bird flu and irritable bowel syndrome provides a rancid stool sample.

            1. Jeez, Moxley, I know Dime Bag is a worthless, self-important turd, but did he run over your dog or something?

            2. I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen a “journalist” even one from a shitty alternative weekly like the OC Weekly engage in personal attacks against a subject it reported on. Moxley’s childish antics only serves to provide further evidence of the Weekly’s continued slide into the septic tank of failed journalistic integrity. Moxley burned up what little credibility the Weekly had in the legitimate journalism field and I’m sure Gustavo is rolling over in his tostada right about now. Moxley has officially joined the ranks of the 4F Mafia circle jerk into cyberspace irrelevancy. Nice job, Mox. You’re officially no better than a cub reporter for Star Magazine.

      2. You on the other hand will do anything humanly possible to avoid being hired by anybody, anywhere, any time.

        1. I certainly won’t adopt stupid and vile political positions in hopes of getting a job, if that’s what you mean.

          1. Yes, Greg: It’s entirely brilliant to spend your days and nights and weekends and holidays writing hundreds and hundreds of blog comments while you are allegedly running for state senate and can’t find meaningful lawyer work. Bob Huff has to be laughing his ass off that he got you–you!!!–as an opponent.

            1. I have “meaningful lawyer work,” thanks; I think that you forgot to ask me about that during your pugnacious inquisition. (By the way — have you asked all of the other candidates in OC how much time they’re spending campaigning? As if you really care, right?).

              Scott, we’ll have a long online talk after the election about what justifies a run for office against a well-funded incumbent. (That is something I actually DON’T have time for right now.) If you’re going to pick up the electoral politics beat, you have a lot to learn.

              1. “we’ll have a long online talk after the election about what justifies a run for office against a well-funded incumbent. (That is something I actually DON’T have time for right now.)”

                If you didn’t “have time” for a run for office against a well-funded incumbent you never should have tried.

                Now you are just a joke.

          2. Um, no.

            I meant things like filling out job applications, answering want ads, cutting grass. You know – something productive for which you could actually get compensated.

            1. P.S. What are you, 52? That means you have about 13 prime earning years left with which to prepare for retirement. Unless of course you plan on an old age of indigence on our dime. Bag.

              1. are you referring to the retirement he personally paid for from his own paycheck? don’t worry twit. nobody wants what you got. put your thumb back in your mouth and go back to sleep sissy

              2. Like most of the 99%, I may just have to keep working until I die. Or once I get Social Security I can always retire in the Philippines, if solar air conditioning technology improves enough.

            2. I have a couple of trials coming up after the election. I stopped recruiting clients around April because I wanted to leave this time free — and I have. I’ll get back to that after the election.

              Since you know everything about me, tell me how many cases I’ve settled for clients this year despite suspending taking in new ones? Thanks for your concern, though!

    1. Fulleronista how does it feel to be a paid or unpaid whore for this blog site? You’re in every subject with your opinion and your not making a bit if difference in outcomes of peoples true views on any serious issues our town has. If I owned this blog I would see you as an orange that has been squeezed with no juice left and throw you away.

      1. cause everyone, everwhere gives a rats ass what you think. you don’t seem smart enough to start a blog so we got no worries goober pea

  1. Travis’ New List

    “Urgent” Stop being violated during Public Comments at every counsel meeting.

    “Important” Throw away $200,000 in state grants. Find other ways to bankrupt the cities.

    “Irritating” Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (such whiney ladies its not their children died or nothing…)

    “Things to look at” How to learn to dish it and take it like a real man.

    1. All of these shenanigans were dished out and orchestrated by members of the Police, Fire, and Teachers unions all summer long, trying to intimidate and harass City Councilman who are standing up to the selfish interests of the public employees unions.

        1. The speeches that MADD gave at each and every City Council meeting were co-ordinated with the members of the F.P.O.A. for maximum political affect against Whitaker and Kiger, and to bolster their candidates for City Council, Jan Flory and Rick Alvarez

          I attend each and every City Council meeting, and have observed each and every one of the MADD speakers being given instructions by blue shirted members of the FPOA before they spoke before the City Council.

          1. If MADD really gave a crap about DUI deaths they would be picketing the damn bars. Geepers there are 50 within a mile of each other. Bad politics.

              1. MADD is a lot like how labor unions were eighty years ago. Neccessary, but over time they become less and less relevant. Look at the controversy with Komen Race for the Cure. They politicize issues, become extremely self-important, and then super nova.

        2. I thought that Daniel was supposed to be able to read “the writing on the wall”?

          You’ve got a long way to go if you can’t even see through this “caca de toro”.

  2. “18 Q. WHEN YOU — I AM GOING TO TAKE YOU BACK TO YOUR
    19 CONTACT WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS BACK AT THE FULLERTON
    20 TRANSPORTATION CENTER —
    21 A. YES.
    22 Q. — WHEN YOU TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF OFFICER RAMOS AND
    23 CONTACTED HIM —
    24 A. YES.
    25 Q. — DID HE, WHAT WOULD YOU DESCRIBE AS HIS
    26 PARTICULAR DEMEANOR WHEN YOU CONTACTED HIM AT THAT POINT?

    1 A. WHEN I SAW OFFICER RAMOS, HE WAS SITTING ON THE
    2 FRONT, ON THE PUSH BARS OF HIS POLICE CAR, SLUMPED OVER IN
    3 KIND OF JUST LOOKING DOWN (INDICATING).
    4 Q. CAN I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
    5 A. SURE.
    6 Q. AND JUST TRY AND DESCRIBE.
    7 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE SHOWING ALMOST LIKE A CHIN,
    8 LIKE CRESTFALLEN MAYBE TOWARDS THE CHEST; IS THAT WHAT YOU
    9 ARE TRYING TO DESCRIBE?
    10 A. YES, SIR.
    11 Q. PLEASE CONTINUE.
    12 A. SO I WALKED OVER TO HIM, ASKED HIM HOW HE WAS
    13 DOING. ARE YOU OKAY? HE SAID, MY RIB CAGE HURTS. MY RIGHT
    14 RIB HURTS. AND I TOLD HIM TO SHOW ME WHERE, AND HE POINTED
    15 TO HIS RIGHT RIB CAGE AREA. AND I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED?
    16 Q. NOW, AFTER — BEFORE YOU GET TO ANYTHING FURTHER,
    17 ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT HIS DEMEANOR AT THAT TIME?
    18 A. HE WAS VERY SHAKEN. HE WAS, HE APPEARED TO BE
    19 JUST IN DISBELIEF OF WHAT HAD JUST GONE ON. AND HE APPEARED
    20 TO BE IN SHOCK.
    21 Q. OKAY. AND THEN HE SAID SOMETHING TO YOU AT THAT
    22 TIME?
    23 A. YES, SIR.
    24 Q. AND WHAT WAS HIS STATEMENT?
    25 A. HE TOLD ME HE HAD JUST BEEN IN THE FIGHT OF HIS
    26 LIFE, AND THE GUY JUST WOULD NOT STOP FIGHTING HIM. HE

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    1 WOULD JUST NOT STOP FIGHTING, HE KEPT REPEATING THAT.
    2 Q. AND THEN YOU MADE CONTACT WITH, OR YOU HAD
    3 CONTACT WITH OFFICER WOLFE?
    4 A. YES, SIR.
    5 Q. DESCRIBE HIS DEMEANOR UPON CONTACT.
    6 A. WELL, OFFICER WOLFE WAS, I BELIEVE, STANDING AT
    7 THE TIME, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING WITH THE SERGEANT, AND BACK AND
    8 FORTH WITH OTHER OFFICER. AND WHEN I CONTACTED HIM I ASKED
    9 HIM IF HE WAS OKAY, AND TELL ME HOW HE IS FEELING. AND HE
    10 TOLD ME —
    11 Q. BEFORE WE GET TO WHAT HE TOLD YOU.
    12 A. I AM SORRY.
    13 Q. CAN YOU DESCRIBE JUST HIS PHYSICAL DEMEANOR AT
    14 THAT TIME.
    15 A. HE IS ALSO VERY TIRED AND SHAKEN, AND JUST
    16 APPEARED TO BE IN SHOCK, AND HE WAS STILL KIND OF OUT OF
    17 BREATH STILL.
    18 Q. WAS HE ALSO IN THE AREA OF THE INCIDENT?
    19 A. YES, SIR.
    20 Q. WHEN YOU MADE CONTACT?
    21 A. YES.
    22 Q. AND THIS IS, WHAT TIME IS THIS, APPROXIMATELY?
    23 A. THIS IS BEFORE I TOOK THE PHOTOGRAPHS, SO IT WAS
    24 BEFORE 10:00 P.M.
    25 Q. ALL RIGHT. NOW WHEN YOU MADE CONTACT WITH
    26 OFFICER WOLFE, HE APPARENTLY TOLD YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THAT”
    http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Joe-Wolfe-Grand-Jury-Indictment-Transcript.pdf

    1. yea the part where he questions the first cop says it all. every picture was absolutely a fair and accurate description till piggie got to the first question about Kelly then the picture was approximate. i guess you believe the picture or your lyin eyes whichever is convenient.

  3. So Fullerton Lover, all those MADDs are exagerrating the pain of their loss just to get overtime pay for the police. They are coached into making up stories of their dead mangled children just to make a “caca de toro” in Fullerton. You defending Travis and Bruce makes you just as heartless and cruel as they are. And To call a conspiracy over the bodies of dead victims makes you inhuman.
    All those millions of people who paid their respect to Nick Adenhart at Angels Stadium would call Travis, Bruce, and you pieces of crap and probably publicly stone you.

    PS The writing on the wall says immenient doom for somebody. You, me, Travis, Fullerton, who knows. We will see.

    1. I think your being facetious.

      These individuals are obviously not exaggerating their heartfelt loss of a loved one through a drunken drivers callous disregard for his fellow human being, however all of the speaker that I observed that spoke on behalf of MADD coordinated their speeches with the FPOA members present at the City Council meeting.

      1. So what did the FPOA say to these mothers. “Make sure you look really sad that you child is dead”. “Maybe you should put an onion under your eye to make you cry, they always fall for that one”. Come on Fullerton Lover. These victims don’t need to be reminded how to feel. Maybe they were approaching them to offer their sympathies. Maybe they responded to the call. Maybe they were saying that Travis and Bruce are the counsel members against the checkpoints. Either way, tell us what the FPOA told these victims. Otherwise, its just you speculating what was going on. With that, I done. I don’t want to be Greg Diamond Jr.

        1. Funding

          According to the Obama-Coburn Federal Funding Accountability Transparency Act of 2006, MADD received $56,814 in funds from the federal government in fiscal year 2000, and a total of $9,593,455 between fiscal years 2001 and 2006.[16]

          In 1994, Money magazine reported that telemarketers raised over $38 million for MADD, keeping nearly half of it in fees. This relationship continues to date.[17]

          2001, Worth magazine listed MADD as one of its “10 worst charities”.

          In 2005, USA Today reported that the American Institute of Philanthropy was reducing MADD from a “C” to a “D” in its ratings. The Institute noted that MADD categorizes much of its fundraising expenses as “educational expenses”, and that up to 58% of its revenue was expended on what the Institute considered fund-raising and management.[18]

          Charity Navigator rated MADD at 36.72 on its charity rating scale for the 2006/2007 fiscal year, based on it efficiency and capacity.[19] MADD reported that it spent 16% of its budget on fundraising that year.[19] Charity Navigator reported MADD’s total revenue for the year as $49 million (US).[19]

          In 2009 MADD took in $41,006,038 and paid salaries of $20,537,936, over half of their income

    2. Travis doesn’t want checkpoints. I don’t want checkpoints. That makes us responsible for the deaths of all drunk driving victims? Wow, that’s dumb.

    3. The MADD speakers have suffered a loss; I don’t think anyone denies that.

      HOWEVER, when they are reading (yes, reading) the same speech rather than speaking from their own experience, I begin to wonder if there was some sort of coaching involved…

      1. I guarantee you that there was coaching of the MADD speakers by the FPOA during the City Council meetings this Summer.

        I get to the City Council meeting at 5pm, and I watched each and every one of the MADD speakers arrive at the City Hall, and the first thing that they all did was check in with the blue shirted FPOA members to get their instructions on addressing the City Council.

        Definitely a staged production by members of the FPOA drama club, whom are directed by FPOA Union President Barry Coffman, designed for maximum political effect to enhance the likes of FPOA candidates Jan Flory and Rick Alvarez, and make Travis Kiger and Bruce Whitaker appear as soft on drunk drivers, instead of Councilman who are concerned with our rights of search and seizure being taken away from us.

  4. yes, Kiger can restore representative government to city of Fullerton. yes, we can continue to support the best Fullerton city council person. Oh yes, we can do this and we can ensure the Flory and her ilk will not return to municipal power in our healing city

  5. FPOA are nothing but punks. They hide behind their blue shirts and attack council for petty B.S. Be professional and wear your uniforms! Leave your bongs at home and represent yourself in a more respectful manner.

  6. We need a new FPD Cheif. NOT DANNY HUGHES. Give Danny a raise, and a new office, so he moves up and out. That’s how the corporate world works,for useless management.
    PLEASE GIVE FULLERTON A NEW CHEIF FROM THE OUTSIDE….

  7. While my immediately knee-jerk reaction to measure W was to vote NO, I understand Kiger and Whitiker’s endorsement. My concern is how the proposed $30M in fees from the development/park designation will actually be distributed. Moreoever, will the city be released from any liability from certain environmental hazards bound to seep up from the oil fields and the remediation and migration of those fields to residential and public parks/trails. If the City can be held harmless and Chevron assumes all liability than W is a yes for me. The city is digging itself into hopeless debt. We need the $$$, but not at the expense of potential exposure to toxic bio-hazard chemicals, by products left behind by Chevron.

    1. There is a reason why it is fenced off. Fullerton already went through this once. I think it is plugged with 12ft of cement, on Rosecrans? Homes were there, but now it’s a park? Safe as long know one pulles the plug, as I remember it, 10 yrs of clean up.

      1. I used to live right behind the Ward Preserve. It is not safe. It is full of rattlesnakes, rats, mice and all kinds of bizarre spiders. Only in the cool months would I venture in there when the reptiles were in hibernation but there were no guarantees. I have seen rattlers in their that were huge. We still suffer from a major shortage in antidote don’t we? St Jude care to comment? As it stands now it is pretty to look at but not much else. The preserve is open but enter at your own risk. Get in a plane and go east and tell me there is a shortage of land. Camp Pendleton is larger than most of The OC. There are salmon in some of those rivers in there. No kidding. If you think we are running out of land I will tell you that you need your head examined and you are watching way too much TV. Newport Coast was developed on top of the old dump with free methane available for the take in the 10 million dollar backyards. The old oil fields here are no different. Our schools are already full of kids that live outside the district so they will simply be sent back to their city and the roads are already a jammed up joke. So why not give some people a shot at some decent air and a commute that won’t destroy their marriage and won’t shorten their lifespans. At least if it is graded, cleaned up developed, managed and fully opened up many can benefit. More trails couldn’t hurt. Right now only the miscreants and the critters are utilizing it. Oh-water? The aquifer under The OC is 4000 FEET DEEP. Give me a break. The water shortage is a crock. Agenda 21 anyone? Not me please.

          1. Yes and there are people that are being forced to live like animals in hot, smoggy, crammed, crime infested areas inland that would love to have a chance at the marine air influence and the benefits that all that wasted space has to offer. The Cleveland National Forest and Camp Pendleton are massive reserves that will never see the foot of civilians. Google Earth tells it all.

            1. There are plenty of areas to build new housing if needed without paving over some of the last natural habitat in the area.

    1. So Fullerton can have Travis, and Whittaker, do what they are suppose to do unencumbered by the greedy sneaky juvenille BS that is breaking Fullertons back.

      OC Register Tony article Oct. 12, 2012 Updated: 6:02 p.m
      Comment by Cynthia Ward

      “…On the other hand there is no question that Tony Bushala has done amazing things in Orange County, politicians are held accountable today on a level that traditional newspapers have not done. Tony and the other FFFF bloggers go digging for information on who is sticking it to the taxpayer, and often just the request for a public record is enough for a politician to clean up their offices (at least temporarily).

      Their posts range from outing carpetbagging candidates with phony addresses like Harry Sidhu and Linda Ackerman, to covering all aspects of the Kelly Thomas beating. While the Register (Lou?) was still regurgitating the FPOA’s press spin that their poor officers had broken bones from the “fight” with a homeless man, Tony was out there on the street getting video from the OCTA bus whose driver was wise enough to record the witness testimony at the time. Tony has also raised the bar for bloggers themselves, he holds other websites accountable, going after keyboards for hire like Cunningham who claim to advocate for small government while taking paychecks to promote any bloated, wasteful tax spending program that will hire him. FFFF emboldens the rest of us to go ahead and chase that story that might make us unpopular at the local market next weekend, when we have to face the public official we just outed. He shows that you can hold government’s feet to the fire and still live in the community you cover, which is a very, very hard thing to do…”

      1. Tony posts what he wants to hear and nothing more. He likes to hear what a great guy he is. He has aged in the last year. He looks 65 not 53. He knows the shit is going to hit the fan soon.

        1. He really has aged. He needs to use his money for some surgery and a wax job. Too much hair. Sparking that bong is affecting his brain.

  8. Not bad for a Conservative, Travis! Keep up the excellent work. The thing I really like about FFFF is that it has united people who otherwise would not carry on a dialog with one another with the common goal of cleaning up FPD and City Hall. Issues that SHOULD be non-partisan!

    Again, thanks to Travis, Tony and Bruce as well as the many others who care.

    1. Yes I agree everyday coversations about Politics can be very unpleasant, so are conversations about sociopaths. Humans battling eachother over beliefs and more so religion, is probably the most influential part of mans history.

  9. Way to go, Travis! Your award comes from an alternative weekly fish wrap whose only source of ad revenue comes from tit doctors, dope peddlers and prostitutes. Don’t go patting yourself on the back too hard. I’m sure Daddy Bushala is proud and he’ll up your allowance a little bit more!

      1. I thought the same thing Careful, Now. what has he done in 4 months that made him sooooo deserving? My guess paid a few bucks.

  10. Join us in a PEACEFUL protest to demand the right to see other applicants before a police chief is selected.

    This is a crucial step in the fight for justice for Kelly Thomas, and justice for all. Some members of the council are pushing for a vote to set Dan Hughes as permanent chief of police without seeing other applicants.

    Fullerton deserves a chance at true reform and a chief who will respect the rights of the people, and hold officers accountable when they abuse citizens. Dan Hughes has made the dec
    ision to keep 3 of the cops that helped to take the life of Kelly Thomas on our police force. He needs to make the decisions that serve the best interests of the people if he wants to be chief.

    We will be protesting in front of city hall, on the evening of a council meeting. This matter will be on the agenda and up for discussion. We also need the support of any person, resident of Fullerton or not, who will stand up and speak out for this cause.

      1. Once again, superb grammar AND spelling (Punch probably should have been Bunch, but who knows with a nit-wit like John Doe) skills.
        Loooo-se-errr!

      2. JD NEWSFLASH
        The citizens of Fullerton are actually watching and recording the last three rows of the city council chambers, where the out of town union bums from the FPOA heckle and jeer any speaker that speaks out againt them during public comments.

        1. They learned it from your team. Off duty freedom of speech is what it is as much as you want them quiet. If your team is or was quiet their team would do the same. Fair game is fair game. Yes city employees but off duty freedom of speech and expression is protected.

          1. Fullerton Tag Team :
            They learned it from your team. Off duty freedom of speech is what it is as much as you want them quiet. If your team is or was quiet their team would do the same. Fair game is fair game. Yes city employees but off duty freedom of speech and expression is protected.

            Versus Mickeys psychotic eyes threats rage and rabbied spittle foam. ROFLMAO.

              1. I think that LS is referring to Jay Ciccinelli’s stepdad, and the other retired law enforcement officers who routinely make asses out of themselves in front of the City Council and the residents that are watching the meetings at home.

                I think there was another incident as I recall where a retired Fullerton officer was accussing a photographer of being guilty of photographing young boys, because he didn’t like his picture being taken.

                That ex-officer was loaded for bear and was also loaded to the gills and wouldv’e failed miserably had the nearby FPD chosen to give him a breath test.

          2. Apples and Oranges Fullerton Tag Team.

            Did you expect the fair citizens of Fullerton to remain quiet, while the rest of the world watched videos of a mentally disturbed 137 pound homeless man, be executed in the town square by the individuals that we hired to keep the peace?

            Now you appear as desparate indignant bullies who are losing their ability to influence a naive populace with the likes of an apple cheeked Andrew Goodrich, lying through his pearly teeth telling the world that Kelly Thomas was responsible for seriously injuring several officers, when in reality, our own Fullerton Firefighters treated them all with Band Aids and left Kelly Thomas lying there in a pool of blood, gasping for air, while the jackals and hyenas above him howled with tales of their conquest and high fived each other.

            Absolutely inhuman.

            1. #5 by Lifesaving Service on October 15, 2012
              The actual crimes are really really bad, but the aftermath is creepy crawly under you skin sicko shit!!!, undeniably. The underlying problems and new age of internet and various reporting sources, and the competativeness brewed into a Firery Hell of a news story. (PROPS TO CNN FOR GETTING MCSATAN ON TAPE)

              Fullerton is broke broken, and darkened, ironically, the future looks bright.

              The story could be titled “FULLERTON SARCOFFAGUS”

    1. Just remember the 3 cops have been disciplined. Not how you want but they have. So they can’t be disciplined again for the same incident. Against the law. So a new Chief can’t do anything further to them. So now what?

      1. If you knew anything about management, you would know that after a situation like the one Fullerton is going through that a promotion from within to the position of Chief is non-negotiable. It would be a big joke in the private sector.

        I vote “no confidence,” nothing personal. You have a job within the FPD to go to.

        What you guys don’t get is that the three officers who killed Thomas are no better than pedophile Catholic Priests, Jerry Sandusky, or anyone else the public places trust. THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE.

        1. Agree. Outside Chief is the only way. Problem is Danny reverts back to running operations again anyways. New Chief has to have huge balls.

      2. What a crock of horseshit! Against the law?

        No, sir. Maybe it’s a violation of terms in a CBA, but it’s not against he law.

        Hughes wouldn’t go to jail for firing these three idiots. The city might get sued, but it isn’t against the law.

  11. Life isnt that simple, it takes a lot of money and or political clout to get away with murder. Cover ups are even for the highest officials asking for trouble. Right now the White House is in trouble, could be worse than Watergate, some people died, probably will cost them The House. Even falsifying a police report is a fireable felony offense. Lying on the stand will take you out of the game.

  12. The Nazis use to make major descisions on an actual rolls of some dices. Didnt work out for the German people did it!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “50 Reasons Why Orange County is The Worst Effing Place in America
    http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/09/50_reasons_why_orange_county_is_the_worst_place_in_america.php?page=4

    38. Homeless-killing cops in Fullerton, unarmed-Latino-killing cops in Anaheim, and asshole cops in Newport Beach. And despite those terrible departments, everyone agrees the worst police department in the county resides in Huntington Beach.

    37. There are still people who believe the Fullerton Police Department was justified in killing Kelly Thomas, because cops can’t do anything wrong here.

    14. Orange County Register readers, a group so horrific that Register reporters once wrote a letter to their editor demanding he no longer let them comment online. They tried to stop Register readers by switching over to requiring people to create an online identity–didn’t work. They tried by forcing people to comment via Facebook–didn’t work. Every single comment an Orange County Register reader leaves is a depressing reminder of how we continue to devolve as a species–and how fucked up Orange County will always be.”
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    OC Pioneers Who Were Klan Members: Harry E. Inskeep, Fullerton Justice of the Peace
    By Gustavo Arellano Mon., Jan. 23 2012 at 5:00 PM
    “Inskeep was the justice of the peace for Fullerton in 1919, just as the KKK was ready to exert its influence in Orange County and right before the term of fellow Klukker William French. Wonder how many wrongfully convicted Mexicans Inskeep threw in the slammer during his time as the city’s holder of the scales–another project for another year…”
    http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/01/harry_e_inskeep_fullerton.php

  13. Wow he must have been awesome in the 4 months that he had this bought council seat. What are his accomplishments:

    1. Fireworks on ballot
    2. wants to refund money for the water tax without listening to advisory group
    3. Believes he is smarter than US SUPREME COURT since Travis ruled DUI checkpoints are unconstitutional. Really cares about the residents of Fullerton………right. Believes the checkpoints are a designed scam for overtime…..right Likes to call out a mother who’s child was killed by a drunk driver along with Whitaker….classy
    4. Texting (who know who) and passing notes to Whitaker at most council meetings. No decorum while on the dais. makes faces and dismisses everyone including the mayor.
    5. Voted NO on his own motion……way too cool
    6. Runs a blog for a special interest guy and uses this forum to make fun and intimidate others with different views
    7. wants Marijuana dispensaries
    8. Wanted council to be able to make a decision on chief of police and not city manger but has failed to to so.
    9. wanted to get a bid to outsource the PD but on the statement in the observer he says he absolutely is for local control and FPD can be improved. Seems like he plays both sides of the fence. Make no mistake he wants to destroy FPD andFFD and all city work groups
    10. Kiger, whitaker and sebourn have their own agendas that do not include what’s best for the residents of fullerton
    11. make fun and ridicule anyone but their buddies
    12. is doing everything in his power to try and destroy the city

    Fullerton voters need to remove him and his kind from council before it’s too late Enough is enough. Quit destroying this city.

    What did he do to deserve any award?
    4.

    1. Flory, in Bankheads own words “SHUT UP”…..You are going to step on your own “WEINNY”….even though you don’t have one. You can always buy a strap on.

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