Cops And Crazy Dude. Tussle Redux.
Early yesterday morning Fullerton police had some sort of run in with what is characterized as an unhinged guy in Lemon Park. After some sort of scuffle the guy croaked. Hmm.
Here’s the notification by the Fullerton Police Department, replete with the usual self-serving lingo.
Now why am I reminded of the Kelly Thomas incident?
Erratic behavior, additional officers (to assist in investigation?!), uncooperative male, more officers needed to restrain, oops cop “violently bit” on the arm by suspect causing injuries (note the use of the plural), paramedics arrive, guy pronounced dead at “local hospital.”
Something about this whole episode seems surreal. A guy holding a “smoldering” cardboard box? More superhuman strength, of course suggesting the ol’ PCP, meth, whatever. We are informed that the suspect began to “show signs of a medical emergency” which makes me wonder about what sorts of “restraint” were used.
Of course at the end of this literary masterpiece we are reminded that the ever-vigilant District Attorney Todd Spitzer will conduct an “independent investigation” that will be nothing more than a condemnation of crazy homeless dudes and a clean bill of health for the FPD.
Shades of Andrew Goodrich.
Let’s let the investigation take its course. No rushing to judgment.
Why?
The cops are already putting out their side in PR? They aren’t waiting for the investigation (done by their friends) to take its course before engaging in spin.
One less crazy nut is good for the hood. Just say’n.
That’s a pretty stupid thing to write.
you next
Blind to their own faults,
Strength unseen, they strike in fear
Truth buried in dust.
Why is it that our overpaid and underworked paramedics let another patient die?
“I don’t know why that man died.”
Dr. HeeHaw, 2011.
“I was a flight surgeon in Vietnam. I saw far worse injuries that were survivable.”
Poor dude just got bored and fell asleep. But didn’t wake up. Happens all the time.
This does seem familiar.
“Medical emergencies” include severe head injuries.
And a bite on the arm.
While I also have questions, best to wait until video is released before inferring malfeasance or criminal acts. The huge difference here is that there should be no shortage of bodycam footage documenting exactly what occurred.
Perhaps this is another situation where you could help a “father” who does not share any DNA with the deceased and a history of embellishment get a multi-million dollar settlement so he can then disappear with the money that he promised to use in part for charitable purposes?
Oh, so you’re going to blame “us” because the City paid out a huge settlement to conman Ron Thomas?
BTW, who says he didn’t share any DNA with Kelly?
He’s just repeating the shit ladled out by FPD apologists attacking Ron Thomas, as if that somehow exculpated the cops who murdered him.
It’s a little kid’s attempt to divert attention from his own bad behavior.
Trust me, no shared DNA. Impeachable source I cannot mention.
As for the money part of it….I have no qualms about the size of the settlements, Kelly should not have died that night. The big settlement should have gone to mom, that’s all.
Unimpeachable…
The dad was a big time fraudster P.O.S.
Why should anybody trust your “unimpeachable” source?
Nobody should trust anything some anonymous person posts on the internet….but….unimpeachable. I’m sure that little tidbit is in one of the legal filings somewhere, but I never waded through them and have no desire to do so.
So it’s just self-interested talk. Great. I believe you.
You give me one shred of credible evidence about this claim and I’ll write a post about it.
Send it to FFFF.
Otherwise someone told you something about someone, somehow, sometime and you attribute unimpeachability to him – obviously a Fullerton cop.
The cops feared for their safety due to the smoldering cardboard box.
What about citizens who fear for their safety when encountering armed agents of the State? Shouldn’t we be allowed to fire first and ask questions last?
You could try that. Good luck.
lemme guess , the cop was bitten in his forearm , just coincidently where you’d expect someone to be bitten that had someone in a headlock chokehold.
Prediction: OC coroner -cause of death – man dies from oxygen deprivation OC DA – no wrongdoing was found by police and brave , hero officers get 6 months paid medical leave
The homeless guy that died at Lemon Park during his “encounter” with FPD was literally smothered to death.
The McDonalds one there should be consequences, the kid with the BB gun I get…..
This one reeks of KT to me. Someone gets bit and goes apeshit. They should have kept that nugget to themselves.
I don’t understand why I have to live in a city where everything is constantly fucked. More lawsuits coming. More money gone. If you made the cop liable and not the taxpayer, you could potentially have someone think twice before acting. I get you can’t have it both ways. Wouldn’t want someone to hesitate to shoot someone who had a knife to my wife’s throat. I wasn’t there and will wait for the facts, still hard not to jump to conclusions with their track record.
I can’t figure out how a bunch of (allegedly) healthy cops can’t subdue a single man. Shades of KT, indeed.
Of course many of the cops are corpulent and would rather smother somebody than chase him.