What Happened to Fullerton’s Lieutenant Hamel?

The last time we wrote about Fullerton Police Lieutenant Kathryn Hamel it was to share the rumor we had heard that she was on admin leave.

“Word also has it that Katie Hamel, wife of Irvine Police Chief Mike Hamel, has been put on leave but we’re trying to very that information and she would make, at least, #4 currently on leave.”

Today we’re wondering what she did to get fired.

We ask because “Dr.” Hamel appears to have a new career as the Dean of Criminology at the online diploma mill that is California Southern University.

Dr Dean Katie Hamel

 

We doubt she just walked away from her FPD gig with the total compensation package of over $230,000/year so the likelihood is that she was fired for cause.

Katie Hamel 2017 Pay

Anybody care to share the cause?

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61 thoughts on “What Happened to Fullerton’s Lieutenant Hamel?

  1. And perhaps also an Adjunct Professor at Andrew Jackson University, formerly located in beautiful Birmingham, Alabama, seat of higher learning.

    1. Perhaps, she is seating at home writing her complain, of why FPD have chosen Rhonda as the new Captain and not Hamel that has more education & experience.

  2. Word around the station is she washed out as Probationary Lieutenant as was being demoted to Sergeant. A back room deal resulted in her keeping the Lieutenant title to make her resume look nice despite multiple internal affairs investigations.

    The bullshit in Fullerton never ends.

    1. Why she was demoted? As far as I know , her husband who works for Irvine as a Chief . He is very honest and respectful. I think she has same ideology and values , which crashes with the FPD low morals
      Perhaps, she didn’t want to cooperate with the FPD dishonest policy & FPD demoted her or suspended her to put pressure on her , so she can quit her job.

      1. Or she lied multiple times in an internal administrative investigation and got caught. But instead of being terminated for dishonesty, she was given a sign and trade deal to teach others to be dishonest around the state. Someone should contact her new employer very soon before the lawsuit!

        1. I don’t think so.
          She probably didn’t want to sleep with anybody from FPD .
          In FPD only the ones that the only talent that they possess is between the legs. Those are the ones that never get in trouble, never get discipline and they get promoted.
          Hamel , Naaaah she seems to me like a woman with brain.
          Besides who are the seargent of Fullerton Internal Affairs? Can anyone name a few.

        2. Her days were numbered after her husband went after Hendricks and got him fired. I can’t imagine the department looked too kindly on her after that. The timing suggests retaliation. She’s probably thankful to be out of that cesspool.

          1. I was just thinking the same thing!. Retaliation because Hendricks.
            Oh well, Hendricks knew the law!
            No body sent him to act in an unintelligent manner at Irvine City.
            Hendricks was used to treat with guero & uneducated people in Long Beach . Where the citizen doesn’t know their rights, but he forgot that people from Irvine , are sophisticated people that know their rights.
            Come on , as a Chief you have to know how with who you speak .
            Hendricks fault.

      2. I’ll let you judge Mike Hamel: He was part of Irvine Command Staff when Irvine PD command staff undid an officer’s felony arrest of a Irvine council member ‘s employee and Irvine PD management buried the case and; Mike was Dep Chief when Command Staff failed to notify City Council when their City Manager was involved in a DUI traffic Collision Case in a city vehicle. The CM coincidentally promoted Hamel to Chief. So, You decide?

  3. Better idea,
    Why someone of us, but no me. You guys can just call the FPD & ask to speak with Hamel, she can give us a better answer.
    Anyone has the balls?

  4. I believe she made the final decision to arrest the police officer from another department on elder abuse…..when there was none…..and opened up the city to potential liability.

    Standard protocol in a case like that is that you run the case by the DA first to make sure everything is good to go before obtaining a warrant and making an arrest. Word is that when the case was run by the DA, the DA said there wasn’t enough evidence to file charges and she couldn’t get a warrant. She made the decision to arrest anyway.

    Thus the lawsuit. She is listed as one of the named defendants.

    1. Police from another department, what’s his name?
      And the DA did not found enough evidence, ah that is depend who did handle those paper in the DA . Sometimes the D.A doesn’t even read the complaints. DA has also some kind of lazy people, and if Hamel mention that the suspect was a cop, worse…the DA, just make a excuse to do not prosecute. then blame it on Hamel.
      Everything depends on who were the friends of this cop.

        1. Well , thanks for that .

          You should have told us that this case was no only about Hamel, which it explained all.
          This case involve a big Inept Officer by the name “Murphy”.
          Does anyone knows who is Murphy, is this the same big fat woman with short hair, mad manners , big mouth and bad character? I thought she was retired
          It also included officer Fernandez . Who is he.
          What position does Murphy hold ? Anyone knows

        2. After the arrests, Bonnie and Roland Wagner were removed from the house, barred from contact with the suspects and placed in residential care, where they later died.

          Casselman said the suspects and their photos were paraded for the media, though evidence against them wasn’t there.

          “The investigation was nonexistent to minimal,” Casselman said. He described the case as “basically a rush to judgment.”

          “Their names have been smeared,” Casselman said. “The case was so poorly documented that the district attorney refused to file any criminal charges whatsoever.”

          1. I believe the fact, that the case was so poorly documented, that fact is being an issue inside the FPD for decades.
            Also, they always get the wrong victims. This is not the first time.
            But , who call the police for elder abuse?
            Was any Social Services involved ?
            Or was just a noise neighbor?.
            How incompetents FPD Officers are .
            They should sign their names in the break records of incompetence & wrong victims .
            Starting from the lower rank of cops who arrest Officer Rock all the way to the detective who handle this case.
            Wait, for this kind of situations is usually a family crime detective involved.
            I wonder who was the inept detective.?

          1. It seems , this case was a dispute of a will ,
            A Probate disputes are civil, no criminal ‍♂️ Ay Dios mío FPD So, Pendejos.

            Of course the relatives of Officer Rock his brothers, call Police for elder abuse, to get ride of the brother who was in their way to take possession of the money. Daaaa pendejos FPD .
            Fullerton PD should filed charges against the brothers of officer Rock , who are the ones who act in a bad faith to cause officer Rock Wagner to be in
            jail.
            So , the brothers of Officer Rock has also so blame, because they were the main mastermind of this mess,
            And the próximo cause that the father of Rock die.
            Sad what money can do, separate families,
            And also , an autopsy should be done to get the records of a medical examiner to determine the causes of the dead of this elder guy. He was old , so the dead maybe many other medical problems that he possible could had had.

            1. Wow , what a nice family,
              The Wagner Family , calling the police on his brother! They must really hate him.
              Of course the motto was money.
              Poor grandpa!.
              Follow the money , case resolved.
              Good job, Rock Wagner brothers, big mess you guys created.
              Seriously that is why I do not work or have any money , so my kids will not fight for my money.

  5. CITY OF FULLERTON
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    FULLERTON POLICE DEPARTMENT
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    JAMES MCBRIDE
    PLAINTIFF

    11/09/2018

    LAW OFFICES OF GARY S. CASSELMAN
    ATTORNEY

    11/09/2018

    OFFICER FERNANDES
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    OFFICER HAMEL
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    OFFICER LEDBETTER
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    OFFICER MURPHY
    DEFENDANT

    11/09/2018

    ROCIO WAGNER
    PLAINTIFF

    11/09/2018

  6. I don’t get it. This cop Rock Wagner should get a better attorney. He is loosing his case.
    A mean, Officer Murphy & Hamel are accused of a crime in the city of Fullerton. These officers are having a law suit in the same jurisdiction in which they work, and they call the judges on the phone in regular bases, which means they know the judges in the Central Court. So anyone can guess the outcome of this lawsuit is going to end right?
    I have seen so many cases, Judges should recuse themselves whenever from their jurisdiction faces criminal charges.
    This link it will take you to another case which all 4 judges have stepped aside from hearing the trial of a police officer charged with two felonies.
    The judges from Central court should recuse themselves or officer Rock Wagner should ask to transfer his case to a different jurisdiction in order to have a fair trial.

    Case that has 4 judges stepped aside.
    All four judges of the city’s Circuit Court have stepped aside from hearing the trial of a police officer charged with two felonies for shooting a man as he ran from the scene of a burglary.
    In an order of recusal, the judges noted Officer Jeremy Durocher “is employed by the Portsmouth Police Department,” but did not explain further. They asked the Supreme Court of Virginia to designate another judge to handle the case.

    The move comes in sharp contrast to how the Circuit Court bench handled the last high-profile case of a police officer charged in an on-duty shooting.
    Portsmouth Circuit Judge Johnny Morrison presided over the trial of former officer Stephen Rankin, who was ultimately convicted on one count of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 2½ years in prison. He’s scheduled to be released Monday.
    Defense attorney Nicole Belote, who represented Rankin and now represents Durocher, praised the judges for stepping aside from the current case.
    “Out of an abundance of caution,” she said, judges should recuse themselves whenever a police officer from their jurisdiction faces criminal charges.

  7. This is ridiculous! How could Fullerton keep screwing up? How could Hamel be so easily excused without anybody talking about this, Seriously? This police department keeps making mistakes and covering up all their tracks. How can a city ever trust this department again? Many mistakes were made with innocent people. After making one call finding out Hamel pushed this case for a promotion and had to resign! The parents of the innocent officer arrested by Hamel died right after the innocent Cop was falsely accused of elder abuse. All in the city of Fullerton.

  8. WOW, the law suit is going to set for good amount of money, they have scheduled a conference court meeting in a few days,
    But the plaintiffs have filed for dismiss with prejudice, most likely FPD is going to give them a good amount of money to dismiss the civil case.
    I wonder if there is a single honest cop in FPD .
    I doubt it.

  9. But, this happened during the time that Hendricks was the chief. Perhaps instead the department got better , it got worse.

    Bottom line is that officer Rock Wagner is so lucky, now he got his own Police pension, the money of the will of his mom , plus the money that FPD is about to give him for the false arrest.
    Officer Rock can say thank you to his brothers for calling FPD on him.

  10. I bet she’s compulsively reading the comments on this page. LOL!!!

    What was most obnoxious about Katie is her tendency to use college courses to compensate for lack of police experience. Ask a question and her response sounded like something out of a criminal justice textbook. The majority of her police career was spent sitting at a desk, so we’re not talking about a cop with vast experience in traffic, narcotics, gangs, property crimes, SWAT, or anything like that. Most of her time was in family crimes before taking over as PIO/Community Services Sgt. by far the easiest supervisory role in the whole department.

  11. “PIO/Community Services Sgt. by far the easiest supervisory role in the whole department.”

    Well, Goodrich did it so obviously any idiot can handle the job.

  12. this is amazing – every one seams to know what a problem child this lady was! I would love to hear more stories of her manipulative poor management! Did the other cops in this circus jus go along with her orders??In fact the city of Fullerton should be paying attention to where their money goes- to retirement benefits like this? For Hamil? Are you kidding me? Seems like she had a lot of players in place to get away with it this many years. How dare our cities allow this to happen. Maybe they should have stronger step in and handle the whole thing! I’m sure better choices could have been reached and would far outweigh disgusting behaviors that have led to this whole situation. I read Mr.Wagner got Top Cop award AFTER this! Clearly we went after the wrong guy!Someone of this caliber,helping his family? Did you even interview them? Or did you proceed with ego an a raise to be put in place Hamil? corruption at it’s finest and our society thinks this is teaching material!!??

    1. What a steaming load…..Love all of the speech cliches. Enjoy the journey..Really?? left out the part about using Captains to make that meteoric rise at FPD and suing prior agency…etc/ etc/

  13. I heard full medical stress retirement. 95% plus 50% tax free. She scored. Now she will make the same on a 2nd job.

  14. Who picks and chooses what comments are to be deleted from this thread? Pretty hypocritical to berate 1st responders every opportunity you get Josh and then delete comments that you don’t like.

    1. hahahahahaha , I followed the blog comments every day, I counted them.
      Nobody erased any comments.
      Valdi, you probably smoked some mota, it’s ok dude. That was a good joke from you.

    2. Cat 5 is no first responder.

      Cat 5 is no 1st responder unless you count leaving the desk to respond to another desk

  15. Just heard about this on KFI .we want to know about the sign and trade deals – the cover ups have to stop!!! This was just in am news-KFI 640 AM is a broadcast radio station in Los Angeles, California, United States, providing News, Talk, Sports and Traffic programming. KFI AM 640 is the one of the most popular radio stations in Los Angeles and one of the most listened-to news/talk radio stations in the country.

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