FFFF Classics: Doc Hee Haw Holds Forth: Red Light Districts, Tattoos and Syphilis

And another five years later? Sill hilarious!

Here’s a clip of the decrepit jackass the anti-recallers think is bringing dignity and respectability to the Fullerton City Council. This is how Dick Jones handles the public’s business. Enjoy again. And again.

– Joe Sipowicz 

File this one under the heading:  He Said What?

Fullerton Councilman F. Richard “Dick” Jones really is in a class all by himself when it comes to blog fodder. Enjoy this clip in which the mental rambler Jones transforms body art recipients into “patients.” Pins and needles and daggers??!!

Dick Jones Repuglicanism Setting The Bar Low

182 thoughts on “FFFF Classics: Doc Hee Haw Holds Forth: Red Light Districts, Tattoos and Syphilis

  1. “any time you see a person with a tattoo, you should get a serological test for syphilis”

    Good advice for this modern age. Thank you Doctor Jones.

  2. Tax revenue is down, city services have been cut and employees are threatened with layoffs.

    Along come a few new tattoo parlors, which seem to flourish despite the struggling economy.

    Successfully businesses? Oh no, what do we do?

    Restrict ’em! We don’t like “those people” !!!

  3. I passed out 2 minutes in. Something about Dick getting syphilis in the Red Light District of Galveston in the twenties?

    1. OMG!!! LMAO AT YOUR COMMENT!! U CLD SAY I’M HEAVILY TATTOOED. I DON’T HAVE SYPHYLISS OR HEPETITAS!! THIS MAN IS CLUELESS AND SELF RIGHTEIOUS. F-N SCUMBAG! HE NEEDS TO GO AWAY!

    1. Tuco remembers…..
      Tuskegee Syphillis Experiment … I laughed so hard i fell outta my chair!
      Dr Hee Haw is a piece of work!

  4. Um..you guys are kidding right? Someone was being punked for their birthday or something, that cannot be for real….

  5. Dr. Jones could reasonably expect to speak off the top of his head regarding basic medical sanitation practices and the dangers of communicable deseases, and so, without notes-preparation he came off as a bit rambling in his comments.

    In many instances I don’t “like” Dr. Jones, I often disagree with him, etc.

    In this film clip I think he is accurate, relevant, timely, certainly credible and well informed, and CERTAINLY right to recognize that he has a DUTY to address such an incredibly obvious problematic “business” as tattooing.

    I weep for people who are so shallow and lost as to seek alteration of their healthy functioning bodies as a means of “self-improvement.”

    When I witness this horrid phenomena, I certainly recognize that I’ve not done nearly enough as a citizen and community member, such that our pathetic government schools actually teach politically correct garbage about “empowerment” of “women” (i.e. girls) via belligerent “in your face” attitudinal affectations, and “rights” to self mutilation and to commit abortion-murders, rather than actual honorable educational attainment.

    Do you ten or so commenters all actually like tattoos (or “body art”) as a value for our society and community? Is this one of the stupid Libertarian “causes” which wins battles over conservative principles and has led to the now pathetic Repuglican Party?

    I criticize Dr. Jones for his willingness to forcibly-illegally take private property and to confuse shouting for intelligent argumentation, but not when he is simply and obviously right regarding public health nuisances.

    1. Rain :I weep for people who are so shallow and lost as to seek alteration of their healthy functioning bodies as a means of “self-improvement.”

      Ever get a haircut or trim your fingernails? If so, I would like to compel you by law to prove that your haircut provides society some sort of benefit before I allow you to mutilate your own body.

      Does that sound stupid? So do you.

    2. Regardless of your personal feelings toward the practice of tattooing, we’re talking about adults here. If an adult chooses to disfigure himself, that’s nobody’s business but his own. The state should play no role in that decision.

      1. Tuco has seen Amazon and New Guinea aboriginal people who tattoo themselves in a much more unsanitary way than at the Fullerton Tattoo parlors. In fact, they stick items in their earlobes, tongue, navel, ear tops, and cheeks. Those items are far more unsanitary than any tattoo. You are all ok to comment on tats but do not automatically say they are unsanitary and cause syphillis. It is up to the City of Fullerton, the licensee to oversee the cleanliness of the processes used. I like Dr. Hee Haw comments since as usual he has never visited these places of business.
        By the way, anyone see Kat Von D. Jesse’s old squeeze? She looks awful healthy despite 100 tats.

    3. hmmm… so my Mississippi born, Christian cousin (oh, a registered Republican, NRA member, blah blah blah) who got a small tattoo on her ankle at the “young” age of 55 is “shallow and lost”? What do the women (and girls) in your family think of your attitude?

  6. Rain,
    Since when is it the government’s business to decide such personal matters? If you think tattooing is so awful, then start a private campaign against it, don’t advocate that moron council members do this on public time and with the backing of public force. I thought conservatives were supposed to believe in individual choice and freedom. I know. I can hear readers howling with laughter already.
    Steven

    1. refreshing to hear a voice of reason, if it makes someone happy to get a tattoo that is his or her right guaranteed under our Constitution.

  7. Mr. Greenhut, which business should have zero governmental regulation? Question #2, which business should have maximum or extreme governmental regulation? Question #3, where does tattooing fall between your answers to those earlier questions?

    Just to be helpful, I’ll offer my answers. To #1, I’d say the business of writing-publishing political campaign speeches for public office candidates should have zero regulation. To #2, I’d say the manufacturers of nuclear weapons should endure maximum governmental regulations. To #3, I’d say that medical businesses should be closer to nuke manufacturing, and I would easily include tattooing-body piercing-injecting foreign substances into the skin of living human beings, under the general category of “medical” type businesses.

    I stipulate that Doctor Jones knows immensely more about medical practice than do I, and I readily support his concern about this matter of city government regulation (absent any other level of governmental authoirty stepping forward) of tattoo parlors.

    What a dumb ( civil rights, or economics or expansionist-government ) “issue” for you to “speak out” on ( I used to read and enjoy your newspaper articles – but it was a long time ago ).

    1. @ rain, So, If I understand your position correctly, you would like to have the same governmental oversight for Tattooing as you would for Nuclear production… Then would it be safe to say that within these guidelines you would also include vaccinations? We we can all see how well those are regulated huh?
      http://www.imassera.com/baxter-recalls-300000-preflucel-vaccines-for-influenza/2414838/
      Just one of MANY examples.
      Suffice it to say that when government regulation is included into business it drives prices up and the quality goes down. with this theory of yours, I would bet my measly salary that the same would happen here. Besides that aspect, to further regulate a person’s choice from where we are today, one might even deduce from your acceptance of more governmental regulations that maybe you might be against the Constitution as well? I could go further but I feel I’d be wasting my time. Good luck on the NO Recall campaign…

  8. Well … if it’s a dumb issue, we’re both dummies I suppose given that we are both discussing it. At least I’m just writing about it and not “weeping” over others’ choices to have a tattoo. I agree with you on PC schools and the evil of abortion — those are things worth crying over. I’m tired of council members regulating everything in their sight just because they can … and conservatives going along with it and then claiming they are for limited government. Tattooing, like most businesses, should have minimal government regulation. Fools like Jones should move on to other endeavors.

    1. Mr. Greenhut,
      It is my vague recollection of switching “off” from your newspaper columns because I perceived you to be Pro-Abortion (or “choice” as the gutless murderers style it). I’m glad to read that I was wrong on that point.

      So many of the Libertarians pretend to a meaningful philosophy regarding limited government, yet they are “neutral” or “uncertain” regarding the most simple crystal clear matter of the absolute protection of ALL innocent human life as the FIRST order of society, or else any other restrictions upon government “power” are mere pretence.

  9. Rain, people have been getting tattoos for millenia without any government interference.

    Jones’ fascination with syphilis is truly odd. Your willingness to accede to this idiot any sort of authority is odder still.

    I think you both need a whack of HeeHaw’s oxytoxins.

  10. Mother and I were sitting around our stately manor discussing her tattoos which caused her to have stroke in the mid-80s. Since I foreclosed on my condo, I have been forced to change her diapers daily and feed her. The food dribbles on her tattoo on her left boobie sometimes. It’s a special time for us

  11. “I am a doctor. Body art is becoming more common, and involves increasingly invasive procedures for some people. I have found state regulations to be surprisingly inadequate, if they are available at all.”

  12. Seriously… Dick Jones never gave a damn about tattoo parlors being clean or sanitary until he needed a way to limit their growth.

    If he was being honest, he would just say that he really doesn’t like “those people” and he would like to get rid of them.

    Actually if we let him babble long enough, he will probably let it slip. Keep talking, Doc!

    1. Yes, it was! And Dick Jones isn’t the only one who remembers those days fondly:

      “Ironically, many folks seem to remember mob rule under Maceo-Fertitta control in Galveston as very safe and secure. The same sort of “Mafia nostalgia” exists in Vegas these days since corporate control has taken the “family” out of many local businesses in more ways than one.”

      http://unlimitedfightnews.com/wordpress/?p=2457

  13. What in the world was that rambling bambling about? All that talk about syphilis and the roaring 20’s was enough to stop listening to that bonehead about 3 mins in. Did anybody catch the sight of his “bed head” he had going on? I thought that was just as funny as that syphilis dialogue he had going on. C’mon Fullerton we need to get somebody who’s not stuck in Ol’ Galveston ways and get somebody who is a little more contemporary. Holy cow. The more I listen to this guy, the more he doesn’t make sense. He’s really good about talking about himself. I’ll give him credit for that.

    1. I think what the writer is missing, is that there is a reason that this sub-culture of brutality and corruption exists within Fullerton police force, due to lack of oversight by the three little pigs who only fed themselves and F’d the rest of us in the pooch.

      1. Fullerton, police misconduct and brutality is not only a Fullerton problem. Look at the injusticeeverywhere website, everyday there is a minimum of 20 reports of cops abusing something or someone. These newsfeeds are just the ones that make it into the newsfeeds.

  14. I am not affiliated with any political group. Sure I have strong views, as we all do. My only concern is to see that the truth is revealed and those that were responsible for Kelly’s death be held accountable.

    Obviously there is something wrong with a system that would allow and cover up such an ugly crime and people need to be made aware of the terrible injustice that has been done to a fellow human being.

  15. Rain :
    Dr. Jones could reasonably expect to speak off the top of his head regarding basic medical sanitation practices and the dangers of communicable deseases, and so, without notes-preparation he came off as a bit rambling in his comments.
    In many instances I don’t “like” Dr. Jones, I often disagree with him, etc.
    In this film clip I think he is accurate, relevant, timely, certainly credible and well informed, and CERTAINLY right to recognize that he has a DUTY to address such an incredibly obvious problematic “business” as tattooing.
    I weep for people who are so shallow and lost as to seek alteration of their healthy functioning bodies as a means of “self-improvement.”
    When I witness this horrid phenomena, I certainly recognize that I’ve not done nearly enough as a citizen and community member, such that our pathetic government schools actually teach politically correct garbage about “empowerment” of “women” (i.e. girls) via belligerent “in your face” attitudinal affectations, and “rights” to self mutilation and to commit abortion-murders, rather than actual honorable educational attainment.
    Do you ten or so commenters all actually like tattoos (or “body art”) as a value for our society and community? Is this one of the stupid Libertarian “causes” which wins battles over conservative principles and has led to the now pathetic Repuglican Party?
    I criticize Dr. Jones for his willingness to forcibly-illegally take private property and to confuse shouting for intelligent argumentation, but not when he is simply and obviously right regarding public health nuisances.

    I like FREEDOM and you are sort of creepy trying to force your beliefs as moral righteousness.. In this day and age that attitude will get you punched in the mouth.. go to church or something where you can let them tell you how to act and behave and dress etc

    Love yourself and let others do the same

  16. WE ARE ALL ONE,

    The system is designed to drag along slowly, because they know people will eventually go away . Once they do, no more responsibility to produce the evidence.
    Sounds a bit like the tobacco industry; increase the amount of nicotine in cigarettes so it hooks those trying to get off of them even more, then when they sue, drag it out until they die of cancer. Case closed!!

    1. Hey be nice about the Tobacco Industry. Tuco owns a bunch of Phillip Morris (symbol PM) stock which pays a hefty dividend due to all the smokers OUTSIDE the USA. You should see them smokin in Israel, Jordan, Middle East, Russia like WOW.
      In the US the company is Altria (symbol MO) which is a great stock to own the past 10 years but I have a personal moral affliction with smoking in public places, so I only own PM. But you gotta admit, that drag it out legal system works great for cigarette makers! I can’t wait for CUBA to come back in the fold and we trade for their cigars! Yumm!

  17. I understand that 9c1, but this won’t go away, it won’t be forgotten and the longer it drags out, the more information is going to come out. Too many people are upset over this.

  18. Anonymous: “I like FREEDOM and you are sort of creepy trying to force your beliefs as moral righteousness.. In this day and age that attitude will get you punched in the mouth.. go to church or something where you can let them tell you how to act and behave and dress etc

    Love yourself and let others do the same”

    Exactly.

  19. I sure hope so. We all need to keep their feet to the fire. It will hopefully send a message to other citizens around the country to stand up for themselves and right the wrongs before they lose all of their rights.

  20. I have never been so appalled by anything as I have by this. It breaks my heart and turns my stomach. I know people around the world are moved to do something as well. This can’t be quieted or tolerated.

  21. That’s five minutes and thirteen seconds I’ll never get back. Thanks Hee Haw!

    The best part of the video is at five minutes and fourteen seconds.

  22. OMG!!! funny thing is, the poor bewildered guy at the podium asked for a Farrels ice cream parlor, not tattoo parlor!!!

  23. Man, HeeHaw loves to hear himself talk. I couldn’t even watch the entire video. He is so out of touch with reality.

  24. Dear Dr. Jones and Fullerton Councils;
    Should I wash myself every time we have sex or license to penetration?
    Watching the rests of councils listening or pretense to listen are painful. Are these council members useless?

  25. I’m glad I took the time to comment on this item when it first appeared and that others engaged me to expand and defend my thoughts. Thanks for reprinting this.

    I notice the poster at # 52 (info warrior), asked my opinion about vaccines. Without pretending to more knowledge than I actually possess, I have great confidence in the products and advice from our American (pre-Obama-Communist) health care regulatory and scientific community. We have been blessed (and we have blessed the entire world) with our free market, free enterprise, patent-protected system for allowing those who develop new medicines and treatments to recover their investments (of money and lifetimes of work) by offering for sale at the market prices, the fruits of their intelligence and labors. All of America and the world have benefitted from vaccines (i.e. either developed in America – or which would never have been developed anywhere outside of the USA had it not been for the existence of the American free market demand and willingness to pay for and protect the developers of new medicines).

    Consider the ubiquitous medical innovations and benefits developed during the 80 year reign of Communism in the Russian USSR where Obama-care operated in its fully perfected form?

    1. Rain, thanks for stopping by. I am confused. You purport to support property rights but you seem to be willing to deny people authority over their most intimate property – their bodies.

      What’s wrong with this picture?

    2. Communism has failed in every country where it was implemented. When they run out of our money for their wealth redistribution programs, communism collapses on itself!

    3. Commies will not be happy until they have utter and complete control over us workers. That includes the right to do as you will with your own body. But, the govt has no issue in implementing eugenics on the population. Look up the Fabian society and the Bilderbergers, they are planning for our future.

  26. I’ve been involved in Kelly’s Army since the beginning, and I’ve realized there are Conservatives involved, but after the Times’ article this morning’ I may back off. I’ve been proud to be a Liberal since the Vietnam War, and I don’t want to take any action that would help Conservatives destroy America.

    1. Yeah, sure.

      This protest is about justice. The recall is about competent government in Fullerton. That’s pretty simple. I’m surprised you can’t grasp it.

    2. Whoah Whoah Whoah! Liberals are TOTALLY welcome at this big tent movement. Don’t like the police beating homeless people to death? You’re one of us. Its that simple.

  27. Boy, what a windbag! He must have repeated himself at least 3 times. It was almost too painful to listen to old Deadwood Dick babble on and on. I think this guy needs a dementia workup, though I have also read that his blood is about 80 proof. Perhaps he has some vascular dementia and Werneke’s Korsakov’s going on. It really does sounds like this guy recieved his medical training from Professors who had recieved theirs when Warren Harding was president. I now realize that his views on mental illness are just as antiquated as his medical skills. I mean this guy is still thinking that straight jackets, ECT, thorazine, insulin shock, and hydrotherapy are the cutting edge of modern psychiatric treatment. Hell he used the word asylum, haven’t heard that one for decades. I really understand now, Deadwood Dick is blaming Kelly for his own death. Just another raging lunatic, he was beaten into a coma for his own good.

  28. I’ll still work for justice for Kelly, but I don’t want to work on a recall effort if Tea Party candidates replace them. And I am not a cat, just a fool.

  29. Just a thought. Coupling the image of Deadwood Dick with, I known that corny, but venerable old TV show “Hee Haw” is unfair. I mean who couldn’t love Buck Owens, Minnie Pearl(great hat), and the rest of the rural folk on the show. Though Deadwood Dick may speak with a southern accent, and is an alcohol besotted buffoon, it shouldn’t taint those of our fellow Americans who are from down south. I am from northern new england and God we have enough Deadwood Dicks up here who speak what we call a norther bray.

  30. Fullerton Stories :
    Rain, thanks for stopping by. I am confused. You purport to support property rights but you seem to be willing to deny people authority over their most intimate property – their bodies.
    What’s wrong with this picture?

    Brainwashed
    Numbskull
    Ideological Zealot
    No self thoughts or self love.. controlled by external influences and needs authority figures in her life

  31. He is actually correct about the tattooing problems that went on in the old days. I have an 80-year-old neighbor who told me the same thing regarding old tattooing practices. BUT, why is this being discussed during a city council meeting??

  32. Tuco knows……
    Me think the good Doctor suffers from Dementia and Grandiosity. Makes him easy to manipulate with the right terms!

    1. Isn’t dementia one of the symptoms of syphilis? Maybe the old fart knows more about being stuck with a dirty needle than he’s letting on – better check him for a “Momma’s Boy” tattoo!

  33. Most ratio parlors are more sanitary than the seats the city council sit in. Tat parlors that legitimately function as a business,are licensed and controlled by Bureau of Consumer Affairs and health departments.

  34. Tony – do you have any available property for lease across from the police station? I want to open a donut shop.

    1. Jones is the most uneducated educated man I’ve seen in a long time. All three of them are stuck in eras long past. Jones is in the 50’s, McKinkey is in the 80’s and Bankhead, who the hell knows where he’s at!

  35. flip :
    If he was being honest, he would just say that he really doesn’t like “those people” and he would like to get rid of them.
    Actually if we let him babble long enough, he will probably let it slip. Keep talking, Doc!

    flip :
    Seriously… Dick Jones never gave a damn about tattoo parlors being clean or sanitary until he needed a way to limit their growth.
    If he was being honest, he would just say that he really doesn’t like “those people” and he would like to get rid of them.
    Actually if we let him babble long enough, he will probably let it slip. Keep talking, Doc!

    Doc He Haw says, “I’ve seen worse facial injuries in Vietnam that survived…” Hey folks, he’s your mayor and a pillar of the town.

  36. Si! Tuco knows…….
    Your Mayor has a problem with things he does not like! Tattoo Parlors cause syphillis and homeless people cause faces to look like smashed cantelopes! He is your Mayor Fullertonians. For better or worse, you musta got married to him! Maybe it time for a divorce?

  37. Many of you continue to blast the police in Kelly’s death. Maybe you should get over it or… you should place the blame where it is deserved. RON THOMAS!!!

    We all know that Ron did not care about Kelly and that all he is interested in is his 15 minutes and … oh yeah, his 15 million. If you think that RON THOMAS is going to spend any money on the homeless, don’t give up your day job becuase there won’t be any $$$$ for your coffer or any homeless person out there.

    Ron Thomas is such a joke and he is using all of you to promote his agenda as is Tony B. At least Tony B. is willing to work for his money, RON THOMAS wants money given to him.

    1. Jaynbond,Your senseless ramblings and constant put downs are soooooooooo worn out. Do really think anyone gives a shit about what you think or say? No we don’t.

    2. IF THE PERSON BEATEN TO DEATH BY POLICE WAS ANYONE OTHER THAN KELLY THOMAS, WHO’S FAULT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN THEN???

    3. Please, , Let’s get Cincinelli’s mama and throw her on the cross for allowing and being the cause of her son’s frenzied attack on Kelly. While we’re at it, , let’s get Ramos’ mom too.

      Jaynbond…….Your post makes about as much sense…….

  38. I hear a wretched, jealous, whining wench. Why don’t you take one of your kids down to Mexico and dress them up as a federale. When they’re kidnapped, tortured, and found lying in a ditch eviscerated you’ll begin to understand how Ron must feel.

    But you won’t get any money for it, just the education. Resume whining!

  39. I wonder why he is not including things such as acupuncture as a cause for concern along with tattoo parlors? If he really believed those types of businesses were a health threat, it would be a county health department issue to inspect them or regulate them more closely. Not a city council issue.

  40. A bedtime story for the FPD Dennis Nedry character in Jurassic Park:

    The little one-eyed pig went deep into the forest, farther than he’d ever gone before, to look for the big bad wolf! But there was an evil witch watching his every move, so when he got to the wolf’s house the witch cast a spell on the little pig to make him fall into a ring of fire! And the little pig, screaming in agony, disappeared into a puddle of grease and ashes!

    Good night, fatso – hope you choke on your donut! lol!

  41. I’m watching this whole ugly scenario play out from the sidelines and let me tell you it’s one hell of a show. You can’t make up 90% of the shit that is going on in Fullerton,really you can’t. Most of it makes me wonder if these jackasses who are supposed to be leaders know what asses they are making of themselves for the whole world to see. It seems everyone in cahoots with the so called city leaders are dirty as the day is long or as stupid as a bag of hammers. Political suicide is an understatement here. The recall effort is a start in cleaning up this ugly mess and truly feel for the people who have to deal with the aftermath. When it comes to the phrase “Culture of corruption” Fullerton is the definition,the FPD and city council made damned sure of that. You know that each and everyone of the players in the Fullerton spotlight have a lot on their minds, all the way from going to prison to who will hire me when this mess is over. Nothing like having a fire burning in the pit of your stomach that you can’t put out and you know it burns noticeably hotter everyday. Keep up the good fight residents of Fullerton,one day soon you will be able to hold your head up high knowing the culture of corruption has ended. Godspeed my friends.

  42. I believe NIPSEY is referring to some of these past comments of yours, you dog turd…

    #686 by Reality Is on August 30, 2011
    Just like any system, if you have that zoom ability and are focusing directly in on something, yes. But if it’s a camera just monitoring an area it wouldn’t be set like that. Plus this area if you pan to the right has the trees and poles. I’m sure you will see the entire video soon enough.

    #687 by Reality Is on August 30, 2011
    Good for you. Believe me, the other side wants to speak and tell their story but they can’t. Not until this is all resolved. I don’t think anyone in their right mind would talk right now. Would only lead to more open interpretation. That all needs to be saved for the courtroom. Good luck tomorrow with the interview.

    #59 by Reality Is on August 11, 2011
    I’ve said that from the start. There is more to the story than the activists are leading people to believe. Ol’ innocent homeless drug addict Kelly was a little more violent and a pain the ass than people realize. Ol’ papa and the family didn’t just abandon him with no hope for nothing. He had injured the family enough. Schizo is all people are saying now but he was a dope head too. If it goes to trial, due to PR reasons, ol’ Kelly’s past will be laid out for everyone to see. Every part of it. Family will be called to testify, as well as every other person that experienced his anger and violence. Will be hard for any jury to not decide that reasonable force was used due to his running and fighting.

    Hope these are entertaining enough for you, go argue with yourself.

    1. merijoe, #59 by Reality Is on August 11, 2011, I bet RI is eating crow on this one. I sure bet s/he wished Tony did delete post. hahahahaha

  43. Wrong Guy :
    The only point of RI’s that is possibly correct is that the defense will try to bring up Kelly’s past; but WEAK!

    Let’s hope the DA’s office makes the appropriate objection to such non-sense.

    It’s about what happened on July 5th that justifies the end result.

    We will see if the defense lawyers can MAN UP and explain away FPD’s history and SUCK UP what is good for the goose is good for the gander when talking about someone’s past.

    Maybe Meth can get on the stand and explain how FPD are liars and cheats. OH I BET the defense lawyers would be screaming their heads off.

    Maybe someone can come forward and explain to the jury how Kelly might have been afraid of FPD because of their seeded past.

    But if FPD and their minions say our past is not an issue, I say welcome to the world of DOUBLE STANDARDS.

    Once a liar or murderer, ALWAYS a liar and murderer. The same commentary police managment would use on one of their very own employees if they felt it would work.

    KISS MY BUTT RI. Play that crap with someone who doesn’t know your full of yourself.

    1. I said a while back, I thought RI was Sellers. Upon closer reflection that doesn’t seem to be accurate either. I make no apology to Sellers either. No coward deserves an apology under the circumstances.

      RI is more like Pat McKinley when you take a closer look at the babbling he does.

      No question McKinley has pretty much become the spokeshole for the City of Fullerton, both from a council standpoint or PD.

      I guess one could reach out and say it could be one of McKinley’s WELL trained sock puppets, but I doubt that.

      Only a scared fool would spend as much time on this blog attempting to explain away what RI does.

      If I don’t make it to the meeting on the 21st, I hope one of you Fullerton residents, just ask McKinley to his face, or look at those in attendance and ask if Reality Is in the audience, see if they have the fortitude to raise their hand and stand up and be recognized.

      That would at least score a few points on courage.
      I would buy him a beer for that, but NOT at the sleasebar in.

      1. I’ve recinded on my opinion of RI=Sellers also, based on many of your reasons above…

        Since I’ve been on involved in this blog and reading his comments, I’ve come to the conclusion of either, Goodrich, Sellers or McKinley.

        Now that I think about it, that ‘smiley’ face on RI’s comments would fit right in to the lame cockiness of some of McKinley’s remarks, ie. “Wait until the trial; Mr. Barnett is a very compitent attorney.” (insert ‘ol smiley face)

      2. That guy is a cop in Pomona named Patrick O’Malley. You used to able to search PBOCOP and see his mug and his dog. Apparently he went into hiding.

        O’Malley decided to start trolling this site which tells you all you need to know about a clown who craves attention so badly.

  44. Wrong Guy :
    I’ve recinded on my opinion of RI=Sellers also, based on many of your reasons above…
    Since I’ve been on involved in this blog and reading his comments, I’ve come to the conclusion of either, Goodrich, Sellers or McKinley.
    Now that I think about it, that ‘smiley’ face on RI’s comments would fit right in to the lame cockiness of some of McKinley’s remarks, ie. “Wait until the trial; Mr. Barnett is a very compitent attorney.” (insert ‘ol smiley face)

    Agreed. And the cockiness will take place under the protection of the regime.

    I could be mistaken, but those mentioned just don’t strike me as a warrior, on the one on one aspect of anything, unless they have someone backing them up.

    One who has been seldom challenged and is in power has lost all common sense for the most part, the how “dare” you challenge me takes over.
    Something ones might see in a corrupt regime.

    Much like inviting me down to the sleasebar for a beer before the council meeting. LOL, an ambush is more like it. That place is a toilet as far as I am concerned.

    The last place a cop with have a brain would hang out, especially if drinking and packing a gun. Just a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion.

    ONLY a fool walks into the lions den, not knowing what MIGHT be in store for them.

    Now some might find that comment a bit MUCH, but like I said, the more outspoken one is on SECRET behind the scenes stuff, the bigger target you have on your back.

    What I also find interesting is FFFF and it’s members have done a fine job of exposing the messanger for what they believe he or she is all about.

    Thus far that does not seem to be the case with RI. I could have missed something, or there is a bigger strategy in the works.

    But in RI’s situation, not only is attacking the message important, the messanger should be included, especially if they are speaking on behalf of a perceived CORRUPT regime.

    And we know that is the case here.

    I have nothing to gain by what I say, but a potential to lose something, if I go into the lions den unprepared for what I know COULD happen.
    If you wish to say I am paraniod, OKAY!!!

    One doesn’t not always survive a battle by being just LUCKY!!

    If I was a former FPD member with the knowledge I have about the system, had a personal vendetta against one of them, and the evidence to back it up, oh some of you have NO IDEA what shit stirring is all about.

    I have asked those in power at FFFF who they think RI really is? I have received no answer.

    I just thought I would ask, since many of you know who these people are because you have talked with them one on one, or have seen them speak in public more than once.

    A troll who comments from time to time is nothing to get excited about. We saw a couple trolls take a swipe at me, NO BIGGY!!!

    RI has taken several swipes at me and a few of you.

    I just want to know who this opponent is, and what there all about.

    Maybe they are a TRUE HERO at the end of the day. Maybe I will owe them a public apology too.

    But a smart cop never attacks the messenger who has done the same job as they have, WITHOUT first finding out WHY they might be on the opposite side of the fence.

    A serious and sometimes fatal mistake.

    RI enjoys the attention, them give them that attention in a FIRST CLASS way. He is part of your city, not mine. I have plenty of turds up here to play with if I get bored.

  45. Claremont Resident :
    That guy is a cop in Pomona named Patrick O’Malley. You used to able to search PBOCOP and see his mug and his dog. Apparently he went into hiding.
    O’Malley decided to start trolling this site which tells you all you need to know about a clown who craves attention so badly.

    I only disagree with you for one reason. Too many
    of RI comments come from someone who is within the ranks of FPD.

    But I could be wrong. I guess if someone asks for RI to stand up in the council meeting and it turns out to be Patrick, then BINGO!!!

    Then is would be time to unleash a rath upon that person and I hope FPD would be the ones to lead the charge.

    But if they think Patrick is a HERO maybe not.

    1. The only reason I now doubt RI = McKinley is because he would stand out like a sore thumb at Slimebar, considering the normal clientele is 35 and younger.

      It’s a younger puke rock atmosphere, whereby McKinley fits more into the country bar saloon type hang-out.

      Yee Hah!!!

      1. Don’t believe ANYTHING RI says. He is a dirt bag, a sociopath and a pathological liar. He will say anything just to throw us off track, keep us guessing, or to keep us talking about him. He craves and loves the attention; it is his reason for living. Don’t forget, police officers are taught that it’s ok for them to tell lies in order to trap someone, or to get a confession. They feel justified in lying to cover for their “brothers” or for their own crimes, etc. and they feel no guilt about it. And, what is worse, they are rarely held accountable since the public has no access to their records. What is so frightening is that RI is representative of other officers. It seems that there are very few officers that have enough integrity and courage to stand up against corruption, evil and murder when it is committed by members of their own blue brotherhood. All I can say is, Thank Heavens for ACU, or else I would have completely lost all faith in LE.

    2. “Too many of RI comments come from someone who is within the ranks of FPD.”

      He has a connection to FPD, we just don’t know what yet. Cop friends? Maybe?

        1. Jesus, you can’t be serious. He only knows that place through this site.

          He is really a sad, self-important barnacle that latches on to hard surfaces hoping to stick.

          Without on-line poker, his poor dog and you people he would have nothing.

          BTW, he has some contacts in Fullerton through the cop network but he spends his “work” time employed by the City of Pomona.

                1. Claremont is chock full of low paid college teachers who make a hell of a lot less than the annual pay of a Pomona cop.

                  Oh yes. Mr. O’Malley is a neighbor.

  46. Wrong Guy :
    The only reason I now doubt RI = McKinley is because he would stand out like a sore thumb at Slimebar, considering the normal clientele is 35 and younger.
    It’s a younger puke rock atmosphere, whereby McKinley fits more into the country bar saloon type hang-out.
    Yee Hah!!!

    Possible!!

    Stand out like a watermelon in a pumpkin patch, INDEED!!!

    RI would have taken my first challenge if they had any conviction and shut me down.

    You could see when I hit a nerve later on, the trolls came out of every crack in the internet.

    I wouldn’t wrap my arms around the sleasebar thing too much.

    We know McKinley has an issue already, manning up to the public in a more ascertive way. Game playing and dodgeing the obvious.

    Samething you see here, and since day one as far as I can tell.

    He throws out whatever he thinks will stick on the wall, ya know the ol shotgun effect.

    Whoever it is will not stand up. It could be devasting using it in the recall.

    But a troll should be banned at somepoint no matter what.

    I guess RI’s comments getting deleted is punishment enough.

  47. Jane H :
    “Too many of RI comments come from someone who is within the ranks of FPD.”
    He has a connection to FPD, we just don’t know what yet. Cop friends? Maybe?

    Could be Jane, myself I don’t think so.

    If Claremont Resident is correct in their belief, then the guy from Pomona who spends all his time standing up for Fullerton, REALLY needs to go see Dr.Phil for an exam on the frontal cranium lobe of their brain.

    Thank you for the kind words Justice for All. YES keep the faith in the system for NOW!!!!

    I PRAY the Gennacco report HELPS YOU all keep that faith come the 21st.

    1. As you can see by my posts, it’s clear why I’m former law enforcement. Just like Ron, I couldn’t handle it. Now I’m a side line water boy for LE. I couldn’t ever get promoted so now I’m a local LE hater.

      1. “I couldn’t ever get promoted so now I’m a local LE hater.”

        I’m not sure if that’s funny or not. Truth, yes.

        I came from inside the LA Co system, and only the favorite, whoever they are, get promoted. It’s so political.

    2. He has a connection somehow. But really, who cares now. Fullerton has come too far to worry about a little ‘ole troll. As far as I can see, he’s harmless, and a little annoying.

  48. AntiCorruptionUnit :
    As you can see by my posts, it’s clear why I’m former law enforcement. Just like Ron, I couldn’t handle it. Now I’m a side line water boy for LE. I couldn’t ever get promoted so now I’m a local LE hater.

    Now that was funny using my name wasn’t it? I am glad you offered proof of that before you commented.

    Thank you cop troll for using my name.

      1. Hi. I’m famous here I hear. Come to the dodger spring training. I’m about to become owner again even though I’ve been involved for years. Come see a game on me.

        1. you always mention the Dodgers to lead some to believe are THAT Omalley. Is that supposed to be funny? Don’t quit your day job, dirty cop.

          Does the Pomona PD know they have a Sgt trolling/stirring shit/spending endless amount of time on this website? I bet they wouldn’t be too happy about it. Unless of course he is retired…..??.

  49. Just as a reminder, this buffoon was forcefully supported and endorsed by Jan Flory, Bud Chaffee and Fitzgerald and the Fullerton Observer. What does that tell you?

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