Thanks to Kelly Thomas, Fullerton’s Future Is Now


By 4F Friend and Beverly Hills Vice Mayor John Mirisch

Kelly Thomas changed everything.

As someone who believes that local government is the best form of democracy — after all, it’s the closest to the people — I recognize that it can be among the most frustrating forms of government when it fails us. We almost have come to expect government for and by special interests from our state and federal legislative bodies, but when the system doesn’t work locally, when it doesn’t listen, when it doesn’t put the residents first, it’s almost as if it’s a betrayal at the hands of our own neighbors. Those are the times when local government represents the antithesis of what Community (with a capital “C”) should be all about.

When the system doesn’t work locally, the response is often for people to throw up their figurative arms and figuratively sigh that old adage: “You can’t fight City Hall.”

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  1. #1 by Jt on July 26, 2012

    This is an awesome piece of writing. Kudos to John Mirisch.

  2. #2 by DQ on July 26, 2012

    Excellent! Time for change is now 🙂

  3. #3 by truthseeker on July 26, 2012

    Nothing like this will EVER happen again in Fullerton. That is the least we can promise to do for Kelly and the sacrifice he made. Kelly died so that others may live. Ironically the 911 caller stated he looked like Jesus. Kelly was an innocent man. The perfect storm brewed up a pot of some serious expresso reform in my hometown. I have kids that have learned a great deal from how this went down and how our government works. Politics can be dirty business but the brutal murder and subsequent attempted cover-up trumped all over the normal mudslinging. The “Great American Experiment” is alive and well. It will continue to live, breathe and burn in the hearts and minds of men and women and even their children in the months and years ahead as long as there remains a remnant that has the guts to stand for the truth and what is right. Thank God Fullerton’s is alive and kicking.

    • #4 by Get Smart on July 28, 2012

      Yes, Kelly’s death is what will give Tony his big payday with the bullet train.

  4. #5 by Barry Levinson on July 26, 2012

    John Mirisch hit the ball out of the park with his thoughtful remarks.

    Kelly’s death did change Fullerton forever. The people of Fullerton must continue to stand tall for justice and transparency in our city government.

    We must remember that those recalled councilmen have allies that will be trying to wrest power back to the same group of phony Republicans and Democrats who believe that Government is to serve their friends interests and not those of the general public.

    Please pay attention Fullerton, to ensure that we hold on to our accomplishments and continue to strive to make Fullerton the place we all know it can be one day real soon.

    • #6 by Council watcher on July 26, 2012

      Barry, have some self respect, just stop already.

  5. #7 by karma on July 26, 2012

    What a wonderful writer and a wonderful message.

    thank you John Mirisch.

  6. #8 by Tracey on July 26, 2012

    Thank you Mr. Mirisch. You brought tears to my eyes.

  7. #9 by BREAKING NEWS! on July 26, 2012

  8. #11 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    Our stinky hero. God bless him.

    • #12 by truthseeker on July 26, 2012

      Your stinky heroes are going to prison

      • #13 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

        Naaaa truth. Guilty of assault will be like 6 months. Probation. Best case for your peeps.

        • #14 by truthseeker on July 26, 2012

          the case set up to fold like a band hand by Mr Houdini himself? you dont say

  9. #15 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    John Doe. It’s easy to beat Tonys blocker. You can ping his ISp too. I’ll teach you.

  10. #17 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    I love Fullerton. Anaheim is a dump. 52% Hispanic. Wow.

    • #18 by Death Waffle on July 26, 2012

      Hey look, a racist, dim-witted cop. What an anomaly!

  11. #19 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    I predict another Anaheim gang cop shooting this weekend. Standby. Martyr for the cause.

    • #20 by truthseeker on July 26, 2012

      Nah The Kings of the Tragic Kingdom have already put the kibosh on the men in black for now

    • #21 by Claremont Resident on July 26, 2012

      Patrick O’Malley beats up Mexicans for fun and profit. Ever wonder why Patrick O’Malley doesn’t sue this site for defamation?

      Hahaha!

      Just feel sorry for that poor lonely dog trapped on the boat with him!

  12. #27 by Where's the violin? on July 26, 2012

    What a weenie…..Did Ron or Tony put this guy up to this? Or is this one of Tony’s biz partners?

  13. #29 by van get it da artiste on July 26, 2012

    lovely summary of the painful and hard struggle the good people of fullerton put forth to rid their town of evil government personified by recalled Fullerton city council persons Jones, Bankhead and McKinley who is the progenitor of fullerton PD’s “culture of corruption” that caused the death of Kelly Thomas.

    and the good people of fullerton’s struggle for good to triumph over evil is not over as remnants of Fullerton’s evil government still inhabit Fullerton’s government. City manager Joe, rubber stamp, Felz and his parks and recreation cronies still gorge themselves on tax dollars, Kellar’s do-nothing collaborative that proved itself only to be a good will propaganda device for the recalled city council persons and their lackeys.
    Kelly Thomas, a disabled man cruelly, unfairly and fatally treated by the long arm of McKinley’s law, fights for justice through all good people who seek honest, equatible representation from their local government.

    • #30 by Fullerton Rudy on July 26, 2012

      Felz is finished. When his 3 month are up so is he.

      • #31 by Van get it da artiste on July 26, 2012

        Felz never should have had the position of city manager because he lacks education in finances and public administration.
        Felz does have a a masters degree in sociology and worked many years for city of Fullerton’s parks and recreation. ”

        iro

      • #32 by Joe Feliz on July 26, 2012

        At least me n Danny get a nice severance package and wonderful pension too. Thanks Fullerton.

  14. #33 by van get it da artiste on July 26, 2012

    and the above post is my opinion

  15. #34 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    Let’s go to the Angel game tonight and riot.

  16. #35 by streets of fullerton on July 26, 2012

    “Thanks to Kelly Thomas”… this title gives credit but not the article to Kelly Thomas. I think Kelly deserves credit for standing up to those officers like nobody else would have dared to. He was standing up for his civil rights. In a way he changed fullerton not by “being in the wrong place at the wrong time”, but by standing up for the rights that every citizen deserves mentaly ill or not.

    • #36 by Wishy Washy on July 26, 2012

      So was the guy mentally I’ll or not? If he was mentally ill how does he know what civil rights are?

    • #37 by Mental Health on July 26, 2012

      He is nuts! He doesn’t know what civil rights are!

    • #38 by John Doe on July 27, 2012

      Thanks to Kelly, Fullerton is known as Bum City, USA.

    • #39 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

      Running from the cops is not standing for your civil rights.

  17. #40 by Load blow on July 26, 2012

    One big Tony Bushala circle jerk… Okay boys one……two…..three… Everyone blow their load in Tonys mouth.

  18. #41 by Pigaliscious on July 26, 2012

    I heard Omaleys sister is the next chief. Tina Nieto.

  19. #42 by JanyChingas on July 26, 2012

    Where’s the violin? :
    What a weenie…..Did Ron or Tony put this guy up to this? Or is this one of Tony’s biz partners?

    He is Ron Thomas’s crooked friend.

  20. #43 by Steve Baxter on July 26, 2012

    Thanks for posting this Tony. I hope that when John faces realection Fullerton stands up and helps his campaign, the way he was the first public official to stand up for us. While our own council called us a mob, John Mirsch led the Beverly Hills council in a moment of silence for a homeless. He pissed more than a few people off during his tenure, and I pledge to hang door hangers, stuff envelopes, whatever he needs when the time comes. Thanks John!

  21. #44 by JustUs on July 26, 2012

    Jeez…..a couple of blogs ago when I argued that the new Council should have honored Kelly with a moment of silence at their first meeting everybody jumped all over my case for it. Now Mirisch write an article on Kelly’s contributions and everyone praises his accolades. What a tempermental bunch you are.

    • #45 by Circle Jerk on July 26, 2012

      You are just now learning that JU? It’s either all their way or Tonys way or get the F out of dodge. Just ask the Kellys Army members that have been evicted from the bunk beds.

      • #46 by Jt on July 27, 2012

        Anybody who thinks Tony controls Kelly’s Army has no clue.

  22. #47 by John Doe on July 26, 2012

    Who was ousted?

  23. #48 by Larry and Emil on July 26, 2012

    Pigaliscious :I predict another Anaheim gang cop shooting this weekend. Standby. Martyr for the cause.

    These punks involved in the vandalizing are not hardcore gang members, they are oportunist, punks, not interested in any cause but thier own. Hardcore gang members, if they were going to go to war could and would bring a lot of firepower to the party, not water bottles and sticks, and they would surely realize that they could bring any number of police units to the place of thier choosing just by placing a non emergency call on one of those disposeable phones. A battle of atrician is a no win scenario but the native americans, and later the veit cong used hit and run tactics to great success. No one has seen a real gangster yet, they are all about making money through illegal activities, not snatching pant, or being community activists, but if the actions of some opertunistic punks brings the heat, we all may, and then the streets will run red and thier will be several “martyrs for the cause” on both sides. imo.

  24. #49 by JustUs on July 26, 2012

    Government is the only place where you can be a total fing incompetent loser – and instead of firing your ass they let you resign – give you a nice big one year severance package w/medical and dental and probably even throw a going away parTAE in your honor. This is because all the losers in government never have to answer for their lousy decisions that come back to haunt them. If they lose money in lawsuits, etc…. hell, they just pass the losses off onto the taxpayers. None of them are financially accountable. So why would they care? Why would they make an effort at doing a good job? Most of the incompetent losers get promoted so that the department can get rid of them and turn them into somebody else’s problem. No wonder government on all levels is a total failure. It’s packed with idiots top to bottom!

  25. #50 by Anaheims future is now on July 27, 2012

    Kellys Army lending a helping hand to our adjacent city, Anaheim.
    https://twitter.com/EdJoyce/status/227944677314277376/photo/1

  26. #52 by Jt on July 27, 2012

    This was in response to a typical comment putting down Travis for not having finished a degree, that I guess was deleted. I’m really tired of those stupid comments. I don’t think it makes any difference how many a degrees a person has. And I have a few.

  27. #53 by bob on July 27, 2012

    Thank you John Mirisch,you tell it exactly how it IS, AND WAS re; Kelly, and government!!!! If only we had more caring, up front, honest, & decent people like you, with such a kind christian heart, how much better this world could be!!!! Unfortunately, we have too many,”Pat Mckinleys”, Sellers, doc ”hee haws”, Blankheads, rotten cops,( NOT ALL) that don`t give a damn about ”someone else`s child”, or anyone else…..PERIOD!!! As long as it is not one of…”THEIR OWN”, and as long as they`re sitting well, that`s their only concern. YOU identify, and care, because as you stated; you have kids, and any decent person who does, can look at that horrific video & wonder what in God`s name would it be like for them, if that was THEIR child that the cops happen to find,..”A NUISANCE”, took a dislike to, so decided to beat the life out of!!!!! You are one decent human being, God Bless you and yours, and……. JUSTICE FOR KELLY!!!!!!

  28. #54 by John Doe on July 27, 2012

    Talk about transparency! When is Ron Thomas ever going to come clean about his “law enforcemnt” career? It’s hard for me to see him as father of the year when everything that comes out of his mouth are lies.

    • #55 by bob on July 27, 2012

      Hey John Doe, Can you please tell us what Ron Thomas` career, and family life (then, OR now) has to do with what our murdering FPD, has done to Kelly???? It does`nt matter WHAT THEIR FAMILY LIFE, OR ”cAREERS WERE, OR ARE, they lost a son to our cops who are suppose to protect & serve… ( HA), AND THEIR SON WAS PUT THROUGH HELL, before he died!!!!! AND, he was`nt even armed, or hurting ANYONE!!!! It is just SICK, and some of you keep bad mouthing his family…. leave them alone, they`ve been through ENOUGH already!!!!!

      • #56 by John Doe on July 27, 2012

        Ron Thomas with his arrogance, his big mouth and his lies will get nothing for his civil suit. He thinks he is going to come out like father of the year and he is not. Ten years without seeing his son and all of a sudden he has all the time in world to talk in front of the media every chance he gets. Now he is in Anaheim demanding the chief of police be fired along with the mayor. How about when the police would call him to pick up his son and he would tell them, “He is your problem”, remember Ron. Dont let this guy fool you.

      • #57 by bob on July 28, 2012

        John Doe; Can`t you answer just the one or two questions??? # 1 Just because you feel this way about Ron Thomas, ( and let`s just say you are right, & it`s all true; Do you not think that ”6 rotten fat pigs” could not have just gotten Kelly cuffed & taken in ???? Actually even one or two of them?? I would just like to hear you answer that…. a simple yes, or no, can you do that???? (Maybe because there was NO REASON to even do THAT, ya think??? Also;#2; does his families issues give the rotten pigs justification to beat a person to death???? Just one quick blog, to answer 2 very simple questions. CAN YOU DO THAT???? yOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE SAME THINGS OVER& OVER & OVER, BUT CAN YOU JUST ANSWER 2 SIMPLE QUESTIONS??????? I`d BET NOT!!!!!!!!!

      • #58 by Get Smart on July 28, 2012

        Bob I’ll tell you what Ron’s non-existent law enforcement career has to do with all this, it proves what a lying sack of shit he is. He leads people to believe that he was an OCSD because it makes for a great story in the media. Well, stay tune Ron more great stories to come.

        • #59 by bob on July 29, 2012

          #57 ”get smart; Ron`s career , or…”lack-of”, STILL has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE 6 FAT ROTTEN ”PIGS” DID!!!!!! oNE THING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER!!!! Because YOU…. believe these things about Ron, are you sayiing that justifies what the ”PIGS” did to Kelly??????? Do you not get THAT??? No matter WHAT Ron Thomas is, was, or will be, … it`s okay to beat the life out of Kelly???? C`mon man, you CANNOT BE THAT STUPID!!!!! ( and heartless????)

          • #60 by Bob on my Knob on July 29, 2012

            Bob. The point is Ron deserves nothing. $0. He could have cares less about Kelly. Kelly deserves something. Since he can’t get it, the homeless shelters or charity deserve it. That’s the point. Ron is a loser greedy parent who gave up on his son completely. He knows that. Not even a sandwich each day or week. Disgusting.

            • #61 by bob on July 29, 2012

              #59 BOB\KNOB; I am not even talking about ”RON” at all!!! He deserves $0- don`t know, he truly cared about Kelly- don`t know, Kelly deserves something- ABSOLUTELY, he deserves to see all ”6 pigs..+ the watch commander” rot for the rest of their lives!!!! Disgusting??? Maybe, maybe not,(if all true) But NO, THAT IS NOT THE ”POINT”. yOU KEEP AVOIDING….”MY POINT”. You just cannot answer THE POINT???? it`s a very simple yes or no!!!! Were the ”PIGS” JUSTIFIED IN BEATING KELLY TO DEATH, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE OF RON???????? Also, only one more question, yes or no???? Do you ( & a few others on here who don`t like ” Ron”) not think that those 6 ”PIGS”, OR EVEN 1 OR 2, cuold not have just cuffed Kelly instead of MURDERING him????? Just a simple yes, or no, on two questions, that NONE of you seem to want to answer….. Gee, I wonder WHY????? CAN YOU DO THAT??????

          • #62 by Get Smart on July 29, 2012

            @bob you are right one thing has nothing to do with the other because Ron had nothing to do with his son for 10 years. We address the whole RT topic because you ask. Ron is stupid to think that all his lies wouldn’t be uncovered. As spokesperson for his son he should be a credible source and not I repeat, a lying sack of shit.
            As far as July 5, 2011 goes just because there is a video where you see what you want see doesn’t mean you have ALL the facts. And facts are what will soon be revealed. Stay tuned.

    • #63 by Van get it da artiste on July 27, 2012

      When you show it’s relevance to six Fullerton police officers beating his son to death

      • #64 by John Doe on July 27, 2012

        Look at the tape. Never were there six cops on top of him or beating him for that matter. You just make yourself sound stupid.

    • #65 by Piggy on July 27, 2012

      Nice to have you back Mr Doe.

      • #66 by John Doe on July 29, 2012

        Hey Piggy. I come in when I am allowed. Blocked many, many times.

        • #67 by Get Smart on July 29, 2012

          I like your style buddy. You’ve got chutzpah!

  29. #68 by Barry Levinson on July 27, 2012

    Council Watcher’s comments about self-respect are down right laughable.

    If you had any yourself you would put your real name, 1st and last, next to your phony statements.

    The readers of this blog must find it amusing that cowards like you always hide behind a fake name.

    It takes guts to take ownership of one’s opinions and ideas.

    Obviously, Council Watcher has none.

  30. #69 by Hog Wild on July 27, 2012

    bob: Pleeeeeeees. Nothing would be said about the family if Ron had not bragged about how he taught Kelly to defend himself. Well Ron did not do a very good job of teaching Kelly.
    Ron said he was an expert in self defense and he taught self defense and he didn’t think any of these cops were in his classes but he was an expert in martial arts and taught Kelly to defend himself and how he was an expert and how he was a sheriff and as an expert he knows what he is talking about becuase he was a martial arts specialist and …. on and on and on. Ron brought this all on himself. He has no one else to blame. Nope, no one.

    So stop telling everyone to leave the family alone!

    • #70 by Oink on July 27, 2012

      Ron and Kelly are two seperate things. Rons a loser. He deserves nothing. Kelley deserves some cash. Donate it to charity.

    • #71 by bob on July 28, 2012

      GEEEEEEZ, PLEEEES, Hogwild, whereARE you???? I just asked you one simple question, could you ”pleeees” answer??? Can you just tell me WHY, 6 ” murdering pigs”, could not have cuffed Kelly, & taken him in???? Or, do you think that 1500lbs. of ”PIG”, could not manage that???? ( when even 1, or 2 COULD have!!!!) OR, MAYBE, it`s that they really had nothing to ”PIN” ON HIM, because he was doing NOTHING wrong!!!! BUT, since he was….” a nuisance” it was just more fun, to show how”tuff” they are, and knowing that they could get away with it anyway…. let`s just beat him to DEATH!!!! jUST ANSWER THE 1 QUESTION, OKAY???

  31. #72 by bob on July 27, 2012

    Hog Wild, you just don`t get it!!!! Even if it`s true, what all you say about Ron, and even if he WERE full of lies, what does that have to do with what those mudering ,blanking cops did????Because you believe all this about ”RON”, THAT GIVES THE DAMN COPS THE RIGHT, TO BLUDGEON SOMEONE TO DEATH???? That makes it okay???? It does`nt matter that Kelly was UNARMED, and did NOTHING to cause them to take his life????? Tell me this, would you??? IF THEY HAD REASON, can you tell me why they could not have just ”cuffed him”, and taken him in??? Or do you believe that 6 big fat rotten cops could`nt have managed that????? NOW, yes I sure will say it AGAIN…. LEAVE THE FAMILY ALONE, IT DOES NOT MATTER, THE THINGS YOU SAY, THAT HAS NOTHING…… TO DO WITH KELLY BEING MURDERED!!!! You must not have kids, or ANY loved one that you truly care about, to picture in Kelly`s situation, and STILL think those BLANKING COPS, WERE JUSTIFIED!!!! LEAVE THE FAMILY ALONE!!!!!!!!

    • #73 by ElaineP on July 27, 2012

      Bob, thank you. You are correct, the family’s relationships to Kelly are irrelevant to the guilt of the Sick Six. In addition to this, it is nearly impossible for people to keep their schizophrenic, claustrophobic relatives off of the ground. There is NO medication that treats claustrophobia. Even a meds compliant mentally person cannot be treated for claustrophobia.

  32. #74 by M.U.R. on July 27, 2012

    Pigsalicious I can’t understand why you continue to post where you are clearly not wanted.

  33. #75 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    Lol @ Hog Wild talking about Kelly Thomas defending himself. It took 6 pigs using batons, tasers, and their combined 1,500 lbs to murder one 135lb man. I don’t think too many individuals would be scared to meet any of those 6 in a dark alley with their uniforms off. Oh wait, only three of them have uniforms, and that won’t be much longer. Ramos and Wolfe are borderline obese and would have their asses handed to them if they messed with just about any grown man. And Cicinelli, well we can throw in teen-age boys in on that one. We’ll see how tough your buds are in the joint little guy with a big mouth.

    • #76 by John Doe on July 28, 2012

      Brandon, Brandon, You know there was never six officers on Kelly ever. Look at the video very s-l-o-w-l-y. Seeee? No six officers on Kelly. Borderline obese? They can stand to loose a few pounds, but obese. No. Kelly being severly mentally sick. He had no problem cussing and telling the officers off on July 5. I think that is just an excuse that Ronnie told you. As far as Cicinelli, Ramos and Wolf not wearing blue anymore. That is very unfortunate, just cause a piece of shit bum would not cooperate they lost their careers. Well, that is the way it goes. But at the end, they will be better off than before. $$$.
      As far as my bank account? That is like saying you will loose your bank account too. I have to part of this. So I am keeping my millions. The officers parents raised them right. To respect and maybe give theirs lives it need to in the line of duty. Cause they are always in war zone. So Keep an open mind. Dont let your hate for cops get the best of you.

    • #77 by Lefty on July 29, 2012

      Cicinelli is a sucker for a right hook.

  34. #78 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    JD: You want to bet how much RT will get? I’ve got a thousand bucks that says he gets at least 5 million. And the poor taxpayers are the ones who have to suffer because a few sadistic, mentally incompetent, borderline obese, thug po-po’s could not handle a basic call that most teen-age life guards could have. No wonder these guys are unemployable outside the police force. As far as parenting is concerned. I think it’s safe to say 99% of people would rather have the Thomas’ as parents than the Cicineli’s, Ramos’, or Wolfe’s. I don’t know their parents personally, but if they did not teach their boys that murdering innocent citizens in gang-like fashion is not acceptable, I’m assuming they didn’t instill a whole lot of moral fiber in them. I wonder if Ramos’ and Wolfe’s mommies still cook for them and contribute to their obesity. Maybe you should leave town before the portion you have to pay on Ron’s settlement drains your bank account Doe.

    • #79 by ElaineP on July 28, 2012

      The obesity was caused by those free meals at the Slidebar.

      • #80 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

        Not free 50% off. We want to pay for something …lol.

        • #81 by ElaineP on July 29, 2012

          Then they had to order double to get one entire meal free.

          • #82 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

            As much as I love to eat, never did. Got to keep it good for next time.

  35. #84 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    I think it’s safe to say the real losers in this situation are the officers and the recalled council-men Oink. Well, and their poor unfortunate children, the taxpayers who will get bilked for their crimes, and the city of Fullerton for it’s tarnished reputation. The most Ron Thomas is guilty of is questionable parenting of an adult son with a very difficult mental illness. I wonder how many of these cops’ parents would have done any better in the same circumstances. Other than Cicinelli, none of the officers appear to have mental issues, and yet their parents failed to teach them one of the most obvious commandments. I won’t label the parents of these thugs as losers but I’m sure they could have done a lot more to prevent their sons from turning into murderers.

  36. #86 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    JD: I don’t hate cops. I hate murderers. I don’t know Ron Thomas personally, just support justice for his son. And your boys lost their jobs cause they were incompetent, mentally imbalanced, and full of rage. They will never work, or walk around Fullerton with any respect again. I am not in Fullerton, so my bank account will not help pay for all of the money RT will get from the city. Why don’t you use your “millions” to train police on how to better handle mentally ill citizens. Then maybe you can donate the rest to Cicinelli, Ramos, and Wolfe, since they are unemployable. As for their parents. If they have any moral decency they would publicly apologize to the Thomas’ for the murder of their sons. RT has already publicly acknowledged and explained Kelly’s misdemeanors, without making excuses for them. I guess we know who the better parents are.

    • #87 by John Doe on July 28, 2012

      Ron hasnt explained anything just what he wants to do for himself like run for Mayor.LOL! He even told Bushala he didnt need him anymore cause he is going to have more millions than him. Arrogant like I said. The cops are not murderes and you know it. Cicinelli and the other boys do not need my millions, cause they are gonna have millions of their own. I am glad you dont live in Fullerton. That is one less vote for another clowncil in November. There is nothing to apologize to Ron Thomas. He is responsible for his son’s death. You will find out soon. I wish I could tell you. But I want all Fullerton to hear it together. And you still think Ron is father of the year? Sad!

      • #88 by Anonymous on July 28, 2012

        You sure are regular.

        Poop, wipe, SMEAR, post, repeat. The defamatory life of John Doe.

        • #89 by Get Smart on July 28, 2012

          Gives your sorry life meaning.

          • #90 by Anonymous on July 28, 2012

            I have no doubt that posting his rants while taking a dump every day are, by far, the highlights of JD’s life.

            • #91 by Get Smart on July 29, 2012

              @Anonymous Pooping is fun but it doesn’t rule our lives like it does yours. As long as like I said, it gives your sorry life meaning who are we to judge? Mazel!

  37. #92 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    BTW? Is the war zone in between the SlideBar and donut shop?

    • #93 by John Doe on July 28, 2012

      Yeah, Free donuts every Sunday morning. See you there.

  38. #94 by Larry and Emil on July 28, 2012

    John Doe :Ron hasnt explained anything just what he wants to do for himself like run for Mayor.LOL! He even told Bushala he didnt need him anymore cause he is going to have more millions than him. Arrogant like I said. The cops are not murderes and you know it. Cicinelli and the other boys do not need my millions, cause they are gonna have millions of their own. I am glad you dont live in Fullerton. That is one less vote for another clowncil in November. There is nothing to apologize to Ron Thomas. He is responsible for his son’s death. You will find out soon. I wish I could tell you. But I want all Fullerton to hear it together. And you still think Ron is father of the year? Sad!

    What a dumbass! must be a relation to the cicinelli Klan

  39. #95 by Brandon on July 28, 2012

    JD: Here are some questions that I know you can’t answer w/o lying, but I just included to prove you don’t live in reality and are mentally imbalanced.

    1) So how did Kelly Thomas die if the cops did not kill him?
    2) How are these officers going to make their mortgage payments, let alone the millions you claim?
    3) How did you make your “millions” with what appears to be a very closed mind, lots of writing/spelling/syntax issues, and tons of free time to argue on here
    4) Why didn’t the Cicinelli, Ramos, and Wolfe families teach their sons that murdering is not very Christian like?

    I’ll expect your usual nonsense, avoidance, and lies in trying to answer these.

  40. #96 by Larry and Emil on July 28, 2012

    Hog Wild :bob: Pleeeeeeees. Nothing would be said about the family if Ron had not bragged about how he taught Kelly to defend himself. Well Ron did not do a very good job of teaching Kelly.Ron said he was an expert in self defense and he taught self defense and he didn’t think any of these cops were in his classes but he was an expert in martial arts and taught Kelly to defend himself and how he was an expert and how he was a sheriff and as an expert he knows what he is talking about becuase he was a martial arts specialist and …. on and on and on. Ron brought this all on himself. He has no one else to blame. Nope, no one.
    So stop telling everyone to leave the family alone!

    Kelly Thomas once looked forward to opening presents Christmas morning, had friends in elementery school, had pets he loved to play with, hell, were near the same age, we probobly had some of the same posters of bands on our bedroom walls, KT did not choose to be mentally ill, he had no choice but to walk through his short life bearing his burden as best he could. I never met him, but when I think of him I will always remember him as a courageous lost soul who touched the hearts of so many people he will never know how many peoples lives he touched in a positive way. And to those responsible for his beating/death I hope you are always remembered too, for what you have done. You can lie, rationalize, distort the facts all that you want, but if you are God fearing, one day when you go before the Lord and your rotten souls are judged thier will be nowhere for you to hide.

  41. #97 by Larry and Emil on July 28, 2012

    Hog Wild :bob: Pleeeeeeees. Nothing would be said about the family if Ron had not bragged about how he taught Kelly to defend himself. Well Ron did not do a very good job of teaching Kelly.Ron said he was an expert in self defense and he taught self defense and he didn’t think any of these cops were in his classes but he was an expert in martial arts and taught Kelly to defend himself and how he was an expert and how he was a sheriff and as an expert he knows what he is talking about becuase he was a martial arts specialist and …. on and on and on. Ron brought this all on himself. He has no one else to blame. Nope, no one.
    So stop telling everyone to leave the family alone!

    These are the ramblings of a very disturbed individual, …..an expert in self defense…..taught self defense…..expert in martial arts….taught self defense….taught Kelly to defend himself….he was an expert……as an expert…..he was a martial arts specialist……Ron brought it all on himself.

    This is the result of a guilty consciounce(sp) taking its toll of a adled mind

    • #98 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

      Ron is a Jack of all trades and master of none. Claims to be..Army, Marines, LEO, University professor, martial arts expert, etc. The guy has seven lives.

  42. #99 by Larry and Emil on July 28, 2012

    Saw Marlena on the KTLA coverage of the protest against police brutality in Downey, Wow! What a woman!

    • #100 by Rocky Raccoon on July 28, 2012

      Tony must give her some hefty change to bounce around everywhere.

  43. #101 by Larry and Emil on July 28, 2012

    Rocky Raccoon :Tony must give her some hefty change to bounce around everywhere.

    Jeleous much?

    • #102 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

      No, I am not into crack hoes.

  44. #103 by Larry and Emil on July 29, 2012

    Rocky Raccoon :Ron is a Jack of all trades and master of none. Claims to be..Army, Marines, LEO, University professor, martial arts expert, etc. The guy has seven lives.

    YO Rocky, the term is 9 lives and just a word of WARNING ’cause I suspect your either a youngster or a couple of eggs short of a doz. be careful whom you insult, just because your calm, and cool does not mean you do not know your shit, why would you doubt Mr. Thomas’ veracity about something that could easily be checked?

    • #104 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

      9, that is right. He has time to lie some more.

  45. #105 by Richard C. on July 29, 2012

    If you’ve watched the now infamous video of six overfed Fullerton cops beating the life out of Kelly Thomas and then standing around joking as he gasped for his last breaths in the street, a few feet away, you will have probably felt some pretty raw feelings. Disgust, anger, fear, pity, and sorrow are what we have all experienced.

    #172 by #168 on May 15, 2012
    Mad as hell and I don’t even live there. That is first time I saw w hole video. Every one of those cops are responsible in some way. Jerks. There was an article about a guy facing min 15 yrs for neglecting animals and all Ramos is facing is min 4 yrs. Cicnelli min 15 yrs. B– S—. If that’sall they get, I don’t expect any riots, BUT, I would not be surprised if there was. Those guys deserve MAX penalties. And it’s a joke, unintentional manslaughter??!!. Fat Ramos was itching to use his baton from the beginning. What’s wrong w/ all those cops?, that it took all those guys to subdue him!! It didn’t, not possible!!. JERKS. They ALL need to be punished!! How is it possible that all those cops were in on this needlessly??!! They did not need their help!! Kelly had no drugs in him, and someone or 2 repeated that he was on something!!! They were feeding the frenzy w/ false allegations!!!

    • #106 by John Doe on July 29, 2012

      What does Ron Thomas say: I want to get a bat and hit you on the head with it….Violence. Now we know why Kelly was so violent.

  46. #107 by Richard C. on July 29, 2012

    CNN “Fullerton Police have a History of responding with Brutality” – Garo Mardirosian

    Shareable Links
    Fullerton Mayor & City Council Walk Out On Meeting About The Murder Of Kelly Thomas By Police Upload August 18 2011.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWJPs2XZxHA

    A Moment of Silence for Kelly Thomas in Beverly Hills,
    Mirsch, uploaded FFFF August 18, 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh5QM9X3s6Y&feature=related

    • #108 by John Doe on July 29, 2012

      This idiot is just as stupid as the clowncil for Fullerton. He open his mouth before the out come of this incident ends.

  47. #109 by Larry and Emil on July 29, 2012

    Rocky Raccoon :9, that is right. He has time to lie some more.

    Your up past your bedtime and I am several dirty gin martinies in so go play a game or coler a book or whatever it is you do, night

    • #110 by Rocky Raccoon on July 29, 2012

      Larry you must of been up late last night. While you were drooling you forgot how to spell. You need your sleep old man.

  48. #111 by Brandon on July 29, 2012

    Lol @ JD giving spelling advice. Poor girl gets sick of the lies she tells under John Doe and just switches names so she won’t have to answer any questions or verify the shit she makes up. Just like the Fullerton 6, no accountability for their actions. I wonder if that started with bad parenting.

    • #112 by Rocky Raccoon on July 30, 2012

      First of all, I am not poor and I am not a girl. ROCKY RACCOON™.

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