Judge Says No to “Top Secret” Tony Rackauckas (with update)

No, you may not hear it!

UPDATE: Stop the presses. It seems as if I were a tad premature in my post. According to the OC Register, the judge gave the DA the right to come after a specific request is made by the Fullerton City Council:

The judge said the D.A.’s motion is a tad premature because with the City Council meeting tonight, there’s no way to know what the panel is going to ask for. Prosecutors asked for, and the judge granted, permission to renew their request, based on what develops.

This one’s not over yet. Top Secret Tony will be back.

Apparently the OC District Attorney was rebuffed this morning in his attempt to keep secret the audio record of the call made to Fullerton cops the night of July 5th 2012, that led to the detainment and subsequent murder of the mentally ill homeless man, Kelly Thomas.

The judge hearing the request said no. This seems to indicate that the releasing the audio would not impair any cases the DA is pursuing. Why Rackauckas ever wanted to keep it under wraps remains a mystery. Maybe somebody in Fullerton asked him to.

More information with details as we get it. Meantime, this item has been agendized for discussion at tonight’s special council meeting, so there should be some interesting councilmanic conversation.

 

187 Replies to “Judge Says No to “Top Secret” Tony Rackauckas (with update)”

  1. Just like the video, this recording would have been made public the next day if non-cops were suspects or defendants.

    1. Why don’t you people wait for facts? You know nothing of what transpired that evening in Anaheim.

      As to the release of the 911 call; so what! It’s not illegal to call the police for help. Travis did nothing worthwhile. All that will happen are you idiots on this site will rail against the person making the call.

          1. all police deaths? no. $50 million? storming the police station with no retaliation? city council next to you recalled? Mayor calling in the FBI? No, these things do not happen after all police deaths. See you at the protest.

            1. Im here already. Library.

              I was responding to your quote. Suing and $50 mill yes. Protests sometimes. Mayor can’t order the Feds in. He can request. In this era smart Chiefs request on all deaths. Most do but they don’t publicize it.

              See ya in a bit.

  2. Hallelujah!!! The Judge had good sense…Praise God! Thank you Travis for making the public outcry and council request. Will the special council meeting tonight be taped?? or will someone be there from FFF to help make sure it is public?

  3. It makes absolutely no sense why this call has never been released. If the PD is concerned about the callers name then beep it out… One thing is for sure the audio on that phone call better be verbatim about what’s been reported otherwise Danny Hughes has some explaining to do!!

    1. I wouldn’t be surprised if somehow the call became distorted or possibly lost. I’m sure Fulleton P.D is trying to change it up somehow right now. If they are will to change reports and distort a video, i’m sure they would be willing to alter a 911 call.

  4. I can’t make it to city council tonight but I hope someone from the public who does makes a public request for:

    1. the phone call to be made public
    2. plans be made to start looking into hiring a new police chief.

  5. off topic, sort of…..While I was checking out tonight’s agenda, I counted 17 existing litigation cases on the agenda. That is horrifying.

  6. That is why we need elected representatives that ask the tough questions. Travis stands for our right to know. An innocent man was murdered by law enforcement and then covered up by so called public servants.

  7. My guess is that once the Council approves it that the judge comes back and sides with the DA and refuses to release the call. Hope I’m wrong here. But my eyes have seen too much. Don’t see any rationale to keep it secret if the caller’s identity is already public and Gennaco’s report already spilled some of the beans. But never underestimate the power of those in charge. In their legal mumbo-jumbo they will offer reasons that have no rational basis. Look at how they are hiding the Drakodaidis letter.

    1. I think so too. The judge seemed clueless to any details of the case. We will see. Can’t wait. If the call is straight to the point and says a guy is opening doors send the cops, at least all the conspiracy theories will die. If it says something else, it will get ugly.

      1. The judge seems to be inferring, or even hinting, that if the city council does this right, say by beeping over her phone number or last name for example, he won’t interfere. She does say that Kelly was lifting door handles. That’s not the point. The bouncer working security at the Slidebar patio door said she gave a fictitious account of what was occurring. So, let’s find out what she actually said. First things first.

    1. I should’ve refreshed the page before posting…I also need to improve my speed reading. My question sad clearly addressed already.

  8. IMO Mayor Tait of Anaheim is to be commended for requesting an investigation by the Calif. AG and the FBI.
    Not a dumbass whitewash job like Fullerton hiring Gennaco and his phony Office of Independent Oversight

  9. Its not necessary to scratch very deep to find a festering spot of corruption.
    BTW: For the FPD, be prepared to provide records of All property seizures and confiscations,for the past ten(10) years, and records of disposition and funds received.
    How much of this money was used to pay informants?

    1. Also release the names and addresses of all the informants. Snitches get Stiches. I will find out who ratted me out once and for all.

  10. I’m the one who made the request to council last week. But now, I have a new request. Fire Hughes!

    The only one they’re protecting is Hughes. Everyone else already knows who made the call, and that it was coached by FPD. I gave him the opportunity to release it, but he called the DA instead.

  11. So let’s say to hear the call tonight and it’s exactly as its been reported – then what do you do with that information exactly ?

    1. You just put that piece of the puzzle in its place and move on to the next piece. Gradually, all the pieces will come together until there is a perfect image of what happened that night, the days after and the years before leading up to such a shocking debacle.

  12. Chants of “fuck the police” from hundreds inside Anaheim city hall

    What we started isn’t stopping.

    1. See, this is what happens when you got decades of defacto open borders and no internal immigration enforcement. Look at Santa Ana and look at Anaheim. I rest my case. I hate to say “I told ya so” but now you reap what you sow. And now with AB 1081 the legislators are going to make California an official sanctuary state!!! That will be the final nail. Welcome to chaos. I hope you all enjoy your stay! 😀

  13. In due time, you know the phone call placed from Slidebar will be part of any civil litigation. Question is, how long will that take, even with Ron Thomas’ case previously filed?

    1. Only if the civil litigation goes to trial would you hear the call.

      They will take every evasive action possible to conceal it. Just like they do for everything else that makes the cops look bad.

  14. This should teach these assholes a
    Lesson for calling the pigs. Man up and take care of it yourself or keep your fucking mouth shut.

    1. That is a real police department that backs up their officers. Fullerton p.d. Should get pointers from them.

  15. Condon said in the statement. “But we live in a dangerous world where there are too many violent gang members like Manuel “Stomper” Diaz and Joel “Yogi” Acevedo who spent their young lives wreaking havoc on their neighborhoods and the law-abiding citizens who live there. It was the actions of these gang members, not the police officers, who set these unfortunate events in motion.”

    Looks like Norby won’t get the votes he was counting on from Stomper and Yogi.

  16. This was on my facebook feed today. I don’t care for Spunky but this is out of line! If any of these people are your fb friends I say befriend them before they do this to you. To think these people are grown adults. They are no better then the cops in Fullerton and Anaheim. MEAN AND EVIL!

    Marlena Carrillo

    http://m.ocregister.com/news/city-365130-call-police.html
    The TAPE WILL BE RELEASED!

    Judge: City can release Kelly Thomas call The Orange County Register m.ocregister.com.
    Like · · Share · 3 hours ago ·

    Ricky Stauffer and 8 others like this..

    Michelle Thornton YES!!!
    2 hours ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney ha ha, we gonna get it anyway…….just put my release the tape button on!!
    2 hours ago · Like · 1.

    Shelly Kearney She has received verbal and written threats,
    prosecutors said in their motion….who prey tell was the idiot that harrassed this girl…anybody know? any guesses..
    2 hours ago · Like · 2.

    Michelle Thornton I have a guess, and I also have her blocked 😉
    2 hours ago · Like · 1.

    Shelly Kearney aw , we are all onthe same page, I hope the DA throws the book at her for harrassing a witness, and witness tampering, even Dan cant save her now….no matter how much shit she spews….honk honk,
    2 hours ago · Like · 4.

    Michelle Thornton Can’t stand her, so I blocked her out of respect for
    Kelly’s Army(I was too tempted to go off on her after she called me a fucker and threatened to kick my ass) hahaaa whatevah!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.

    Shelly Kearney funny/
    about an hour ago · Like.

    Michelle Thornton And she did it out of no where too – I wasn’t even talking about her or to her. I felt like I had been attacked out of no where by a crazy animal. I like mentally ill, but sane and nasty is where I draw the line 😉
    about an hour ago · Like · 2.

    Marlena Carrillo Wow Michelle she wants to kick your ass too?
    That dirty greasy thing better watch out. I hear there is an 8 year old waiting to take her down. about an hour ago via mobile · Like.

    Shelly Kearney I say she is working with them, and or for them.
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.

    Michelle Thornton I have three kids that do a good job of kicking my ass already, so I’m already spent 😛
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.

    Michelle Thornton I thought you guys were all BFF’s
    about an hour ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney I defended her, felt sorry and generlaly helped her not get her ass handed to her on a platter and et her killed, yes marlena and I went out day after day against her frined telling us we were dunb, but did it anyway, and she is mad over some lame wedding that the marriage is bound to fail with in 7 month wait til he find ous she hasnt paid her taxes in years and he has to pay for it, o yeah she told me from day one PHil will bu y you the dress, now she is lyin and sayin we truined it, she is the biggest waffler liar I know, she needs meds really she is sick. she wil befreind yo uand pretend shelikes god and everything you do, she is fony and I dont trust her, never ever ever will.
    about an hour ago · Like · 2.

    Marlena Carrillo Thank you for what you do.
    Don’t ever change!!!
    Ughhhh
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.

    Michelle Thornton Other than her and that hag Cryss, everyone else is good people. about an hour ago · Like.

    Marlena Carrillo We are trying to save our people from corrupt
    murderous cops and she wants to have a pity party for herself.
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.

    Michelle Thornton You’re always going to lose a couple along the way
    about an hour ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney most are cool, many I have never met, I generally like the ones that have done protesting beofre and know the ropes, they usually arent in it for the camera time…
    about an hour ago · Like.

    Marlena Carrillo We are good. The ones that have no secret agendas a doing real good.
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.

    Shelly Kearney we have NO secret agenda…..none other than the betterment of our cities……who knew that woul dbe so hard. about an hour ago · Like.

    Aj Redkey who is the traitor? message me the drama
    about an hour ago · Like.

    Michelle Thornton I’m still facebook friends with Zeek – I think he’s
    harmless, but not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and isn’t
    always all there. At least he lays all of his cards out to see, which
    I like. But I could understand how it would get irritating to deal
    with the drama all of the time.
    about an hour ago · Like
    Shelly Kearney

    the christine walker dart board, made my day thank you.

    Like · · 16 minutes ago ·

    Marlena Carrillo I wanna play!!
    14 minutes ago · Like.

    Ricky Stauffer Can I play?
    14 minutes ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney uno citizen made a dart board of her…
    13 minutes ago · Like.

    Ricky Stauffer I just saw that.
    12 minutes ago · Like

    Shelly Kearney

    when you read…HIt up CHRYYSS O crazy butterknife, she as pictures-
    the answer will alwys be fuck that stupid whore…

    Like · · 4 hours ago ·

    Ricky Stauffer huh?
    4 hours ago · Like · 1.

    Ricky Stauffer I do agree with the answer though.
    4 hours ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney when I see some one askin for pics, the ones I aked youto send, and not sure if you did they are saying hit up chyrss o
    crazy the one who covered all the Kelly thomas stuff…it akes me laugh.
    4 hours ago · Like.

    Ricky Stauffer Yeah. I saw it.
    4 hours ago · Like.

  17. This is what OC has become. Gangs and Bad Cops. What a shame. Good neighborhoods what a joke. Send them all over seas. Can they make it? I think not.

  18. Mr. Ra-COCK-us, cock your guns instead of (sucking) the dirty cop terrorists BALLS
    (2) Lying, falsifying, fabricating, overtime-abusing, drugged up dirty cop terrorists with “police powers” ( Execute them promptly) just your run of the mill self-satisfied gov’t employees with GUNS looking for sitting duck taxpayers to shoot in the back and get away with it. 7-24-2012 Tue.

  19. GREAT SHIT!

    I have advocated FFFF coming to the defense of this kid.

    Make him a “guest blogger”. He’s got bigger nards than most of us.

    He did what was right, knowing how he did it was wrong. Thats a risk. He stands by it. With No CTA union to defend him, he stands as the villian.

  20. Sorry. Fucked up and posted this elsewhere in error; must have been the wine I drank watching the APD (hopefully) Tear Gas Greg Diamond.

    But, heres what I said:

    GREAT SHIT!

    I have advocated FFFF coming to the defense of this kid.

    Make him a “guest blogger”. He’s got bigger nards than most of us.

    He did what was right, knowing how he did it was wrong. Thats a risk. He stands by it. With No CTA union to defend him, he stands as the villian.

    GREAT KID

  21. Glenda the Good Witch :
    This was on my facebook feed today. I don’t care for Spunky but this is out of line! If any of these people are your fb friends I say befriend them before they do this to you. To think these people are grown adults. They are no better then the cops in Fullerton and Anaheim. MEAN AND EVIL!
    Marlena Carrillo
    http://m.ocregister.com/news/city-365130-call-police.html
    The TAPE WILL BE RELEASED!
    Judge: City can release Kelly Thomas call The Orange County Register m.ocregister.com.
    Like · · Share · 3 hours ago ·
    Ricky Stauffer and 8 others like this..
    Michelle Thornton YES!!!
    2 hours ago · Like.
    Shelly Kearney ha ha, we gonna get it anyway…….just put my release the tape button on!!
    2 hours ago · Like · 1.
    Shelly Kearney She has received verbal and written threats,
    prosecutors said in their motion….who prey tell was the idiot that harrassed this girl…anybody know? any guesses..
    2 hours ago · Like · 2.
    Michelle Thornton I have a guess, and I also have her blocked
    2 hours ago · Like · 1.
    Shelly Kearney aw , we are all onthe same page, I hope the DA throws the book at her for harrassing a witness, and witness tampering, even Dan cant save her now….no matter how much shit she spews….honk honk,
    2 hours ago · Like · 4.
    Michelle Thornton Can’t stand her, so I blocked her out of respect for
    Kelly’s Army(I was too tempted to go off on her after she called me a fucker and threatened to kick my ass) hahaaa whatevah!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.
    Shelly Kearney funny/
    about an hour ago · Like.
    Michelle Thornton And she did it out of no where too – I wasn’t even talking about her or to her. I felt like I had been attacked out of no where by a crazy animal. I like mentally ill, but sane and nasty is where I draw the line
    about an hour ago · Like · 2.
    Marlena Carrillo Wow Michelle she wants to kick your ass too?
    That dirty greasy thing better watch out. I hear there is an 8 year old waiting to take her down. about an hour ago via mobile · Like.
    Shelly Kearney I say she is working with them, and or for them.
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.
    Michelle Thornton I have three kids that do a good job of kicking my ass already, so I’m already spent
    about an hour ago · Like · 1.
    Michelle Thornton I thought you guys were all BFF’s
    about an hour ago · Like.
    Shelly Kearney I defended her, felt sorry and generlaly helped her not get her ass handed to her on a platter and et her killed, yes marlena and I went out day after day against her frined telling us we were dunb, but did it anyway, and she is mad over some lame wedding that the marriage is bound to fail with in 7 month wait til he find ous she hasnt paid her taxes in years and he has to pay for it, o yeah she told me from day one PHil will bu y you the dress, now she is lyin and sayin we truined it, she is the biggest waffler liar I know, she needs meds really she is sick. she wil befreind yo uand pretend shelikes god and everything you do, she is fony and I dont trust her, never ever ever will.
    about an hour ago · Like · 2.
    Marlena Carrillo Thank you for what you do.
    Don’t ever change!!!
    Ughhhh
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.
    Michelle Thornton Other than her and that hag Cryss, everyone else is good people. about an hour ago · Like.
    Marlena Carrillo We are trying to save our people from corrupt
    murderous cops and she wants to have a pity party for herself.
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.
    Michelle Thornton You’re always going to lose a couple along the way
    about an hour ago · Like.
    Shelly Kearney most are cool, many I have never met, I generally like the ones that have done protesting beofre and know the ropes, they usually arent in it for the camera time…
    about an hour ago · Like.
    Marlena Carrillo We are good. The ones that have no secret agendas a doing real good.
    about an hour ago via mobile · Like.
    Shelly Kearney we have NO secret agenda…..none other than the betterment of our cities……who knew that woul dbe so hard. about an hour ago · Like.
    Aj Redkey who is the traitor? message me the drama
    about an hour ago · Like.
    Michelle Thornton I’m still facebook friends with Zeek – I think he’s
    harmless, but not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and isn’t
    always all there. At least he lays all of his cards out to see, which
    I like. But I could understand how it would get irritating to deal
    with the drama all of the time.
    about an hour ago · Like
    Shelly Kearney
    the christine walker dart board, made my day thank you.
    Like · · 16 minutes ago ·
    Marlena Carrillo I wanna play!!
    14 minutes ago · Like.
    Ricky Stauffer Can I play?
    14 minutes ago · Like.
    Shelly Kearney uno citizen made a dart board of her…
    13 minutes ago · Like.
    Ricky Stauffer I just saw that.
    12 minutes ago · Like
    Shelly Kearney
    when you read…HIt up CHRYYSS O crazy butterknife, she as pictures-
    the answer will alwys be fuck that stupid whore…
    Like · · 4 hours ago ·
    Ricky Stauffer huh?
    4 hours ago · Like · 1.
    Ricky Stauffer I do agree with the answer though.
    4 hours ago · Like.
    Shelly Kearney when I see some one askin for pics, the ones I aked youto send, and not sure if you did they are saying hit up chyrss o
    crazy the one who covered all the Kelly thomas stuff…it akes me laugh.
    4 hours ago · Like.
    Ricky Stauffer Yeah. I saw it.
    4 hours ago · Like.

    Quoted for posterity. Now we know who has an agenda. Good luck with that; you guys are now exposed as liars and manipulators…sleep tight. Truth is GOLD!

    1. MY OPINION (I could be wrong because I really don’t know what has gone on with these people) This is sad to read. We were all in this together, and now I have seen at least three women and two men, who have been ostracized from Kelly’s Army. I don’t get it. What do we want? Justice for Kelly, NOT attention and popularity. Why can’t we all get along. It makes me want to disengage from it all. It’s high school all over again. It’s not about being part of the elite group of KA, it’s about working together to keep the fight strong. This has turned into such a joke. Get over yourselves everyone and keep focused. Geez.

    2. VW Type 53A…Is it true that you promote musical acts for the Slidebar Cafe, and have listed the Slidebar Cafe’s owner Jeremy Popoff as your best friend on Facebook?

    1. If you’re caught committing a felony– yeah, that’s the case. If you’re not doing anything wrong (i.e., no probable cause), you have a constitutional right to run where ever you damn well please unless you’re placed under arrest, which can’t be done without a warrant.

      Also, getting shot in the ass is way different than getting shot in the ass and then getting shot in the head.

  22. A little bit more from the bad seeds.

    Marlena Carrillo

    Unfriend is the best thing ever!!!
    See Ya Suckers!!!!

    Like · · 13 minutes ago near Fullerton ·

    2 people like this..

    Ricky Stauffer Who we cuttin’?
    12 minutes ago · Like.

    Shelly Kearney everybody but those who have no hidden agenda .
    10 minutes ago · Like · 1.

    William V Metaller Noooooo!
    9 minutes ago via mobile · Like.

    Marlena Carrillo Hidden agendas gotta go! No time for it!!!
    4 minutes ago · Like · 3.

  23. LOL. They are cutting their own throats. Keep cutting, you will be gurgling soon…

    I LOVE when liars expose themselves as it saves the innocent from having to do it for their own name.

    This stuff is GOLDEN!

  24. LOL. If you think I am LEO you are sorely mistaken.

    I’m just a Fullerton resident that has had enough of stupid high-school bullshit. Thankfully I have witches that watch over me…and God of course.

    Thanks for playing tho, please drive through…

      1. #70 by Disgusted, Because they think they are the good people. It goes to show they are exactly what they hate. People are suppose to grow up when they hit there 40’s. These people never did and never will long into the 70’s. They are the type of people who feel better about themselves when they put down others. They’ve been exposed for who they really are.

  25. Riots in Anaheim hell ya, is Norby out there throwing rocks at cops?

    Norby is the orange county version of Maxine Waters. Can’t we all get along?

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  27. Just got out of the council meeting. Transcripts were released! Both audio and written. Slidebar made the call! Claimed Kelly was pulling on handles. Will scan transcripts in the morning, if no one else has by then.

  28. A personal thank you to RD, your tenacity rocks.

    I hope the quest to fire Hughes will be as successful.

  29. Now all you folks quit worrying. The Slidebar owner Jeremy Tatoo is gonna make a special political donation for the re-election of DA Tony so that the tape will not be submitted in evidence. Of course, a good lawsuit by GARO will pry that info out anyway!

  30. Where is the cover up? Where Can you hear PD and Slidebar are in cahoots? Where is the corruption? SUCKERS! ! Only Kelly the hatchet man.

  31. Y

    R.D. :
    Just got out of the council meeting. Transcripts were released! Both audio and written. Slidebar made the call! Claimed Kelly was pulling on handles. Will scan transcripts in the morning, if no one else has by then.

    Yes! Thank YOU R.D.

    1. We’re too busy laughing as you paid goons alienate whatever OC citizens you haven’t alienated yet, soon to be unemployed one.

  32. Amber Stephens ‏@amberjamie99pct
    Two people just arrested, one officer heard saying “Stop resisting!” via @Timcast #Anaheim

    hark, I heard the sound of cowards in blue!

  33. Dwyer said Fullerton police “coached” the caller by essentially telling her to make up a story about Thomas doing something illegal to get officers to respond quickly to the Transportation Center.

    R.D. You are an idiot. I hope you get sued for slander and defemation.

    1. I hope R.D. uncovers more of the malfeasance, lies and cover-ups by FPD and helps get rid of the current acting chief, who obviously has NO interest in protecting the public; just his boys in blue.

      Then, we could see some more of John Doe’s whining on here. Not to mention his spelling and grammatical goofs.

  34. We are laughing at you “laughing ” there is nothing you can say to make us mad …lol!!!!! I better hurry before Tony blocks me. VICTORY!

  35. So where are all the comments about the long sought after conspiracy call? The one that “didn’t exist” and whatever else you freaks came up with? So much for your f’g theories.

  36. karma :
    A personal thank you to RD, your tenacity rocks.
    I hope the quest to fire Hughes will be as successful.

    YOU ROCK R.D.!!!

  37. R.D. :
    Just got out of the council meeting. Transcripts were released! Both audio and written. Slidebar made the call! Claimed Kelly was pulling on handles. Will scan transcripts in the morning, if no one else has by then.

    We all knew Slidebar made the call. So what is the big story here? Oh I know, that you helped the cops out. I am sure they are very thankful.

  38. “he used to carry an ax several years ago”…..this sentence may be the smoking gun that will show that she was coached what to report. you can bet transcript will be disected closely…in the morn

  39. LOL ricky racoon is dancing around the living room in thier soiled underwear celebrating the “victory” that is going to sink the defense’s ship

  40. there was a few things that were revealed in this audio. And I think it was exactly as we would expect. I don’t think anyone expected the caller to say..”hey the PD free drink buddies told us to make up shit to get you guys here and take care of this nasty guy for good.

    the dispatcher knew EXACTLY who she was talking about, and yet they(FPD6) badgered the known mentally ill person “what is your name”!!

    “caller” feigned ignorance as to not knowing who he was but she knew plenty about his long history.

    “caller” claimed he was pulling handles on doors,”AGAIN” (which sounded like a preplanned statement) which does not appear to be the case. Lets say he was looking in windows, for the sake of argument, is that a crime? and if so, crime enough to be beat to death?

    sounds to me like a false police report from an employee who was coached.

    1. LoL of course. Now that the call is straight to the point now it’s all a lie. Well depose her and when she says it under oath now what? End of story.

      1. Wrong. Start of story. Won’t lie under oath. It was a set up. Watch the rats start fingering each other.

    2. Sounds like she was having a conversation with someone while waiting for the dispatcher to answer as though trying to justify her actions. Reeves, the guy standing security at the Slidebar patio door where the surveillance cam is usually trained, claims she was standing near him when she placed the call. He said he was asking her not to call the police and that “Kelly Thomas was only picking up cigarette butts and would move on in a couple minutes like he always does.” He said she stepped about 5 feet away from him when she called the dispatcher and he heard everything. Now we know where Barnett got that silly hatchet information.

      http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Slidebar-Complaint.pdf

  41. What a scene to watch last night. Gangsters mixed with the army causing chaos. What a difference between a white man’s death and a mexican’s death. They destroyed some hard earned businesses and lost respect with so many citizens. A least Kelly’s protests had a goal and remained somewhat respectful. This Anaheim cause lost everything in one night. A disgrace. The only thing it did was make cops a ton of overtime and cost business owners thousands.

    1. Anaheim can afford the ton of police overtime. 50% of the Anaheim budget comes from the bed tax at hotels!

    1. +1

      I think it hurt the FPD community confidence more than helped the defense. If it is so benign than why not release it. It shows how corruption and deception is innate to the Fullerton Police Department, which is exactly what everyone has been vocally upset about for over a year.

      After reading the late night posts from the PD trolls, I find it sick that anyone would laugh at this situation, no matter what perspective you hold. A mentally ill man was killed. Period. Shame on you. Karma is a bitch.

  42. the dispatcher knew EXACTLY who she was talking about, and yet they(FPD6) badgered the known mentally ill person “what is your name”!!

    What are you talking about the dispatcher kept asking the caller if the Auto Burglary suspect who sometimes is armed with an axe was “Dean Kelly”. If you knew your local bums you would know who “Dean Kelly” is. “Dean Kelly” is not Kelly Thomas, Same smell different name.

    Ron Thomas would not know the difference because he had not seen Kelly in 10 years and could not pick Kelly’s photo out of a line up even if it meant winning millions of dollars to do so.

  43. Ho Ho :
    the dispatcher knew EXACTLY who she was talking about, and yet they(FPD6) badgered the known mentally ill person “what is your name”!!
    What are you talking about the dispatcher kept asking the caller if the Auto Burglary suspect who sometimes is armed with an axe was “Dean Kelly”. If you knew your local bums you would know who “Dean Kelly” is. “Dean Kelly” is not Kelly Thomas, Same smell different name.
    Ron Thomas would not know the difference because he had not seen Kelly in 10 years and could not pick Kelly’s photo out of a line up even if it meant winning millions of dollars to do so.

    Goes to show you not everyone knew Kelly like you bedwetters claim. Admit it no cover up. Can’t thank you enough R.D.

  44. Ho Ho :
    the dispatcher knew EXACTLY who she was talking about, and yet they(FPD6) badgered the known mentally ill person “what is your name”!!
    What are you talking about the dispatcher kept asking the caller if the Auto Burglary suspect who sometimes is armed with an axe was “Dean Kelly”. If you knew your local bums you would know who “Dean Kelly” is. “Dean Kelly” is not Kelly Thomas, Same smell different name.
    Ron Thomas would not know the difference because he had not seen Kelly in 10 years and could not pick Kelly’s photo out of a line up even if it meant winning millions of dollars to do so.

    How can you tell the dispatcher knew the caller. Admit the agony of defeat. Where is. Ron? He just millions go out the window. Like a fart in the wind.

    1. POOOOOOOOOOOP. POOP. POOP. POOOOOOOOP.

      Please lay off the fiber.

      All you do is poop, wipe, SMEAR, post, and repeat. You sad sad little tiny man.

      Go wash your hands before returning to work.

  45. Anonymous :
    POOOOOOOOOOOP. POOP. POOP. POOOOOOOOP.
    Please lay off the fiber.
    All you do is poop, wipe, SMEAR, post, and repeat. You sad sad little tiny man.
    Go wash your hands before returning to work.

    The poooop is in your face and you know it. Tell your buddy R.D. to wash his poopy hands cause he screwed up. Lots of antibacterial.

    1. What? That doesn’t even make sense! You poopy bastard– learn to fucking speak English.

      Oh, wait– I forgot– you can’t. You have another anus where your brain is supposed to be.

      All you’ll ever be is a big fat poopy clown-man. You run your mouth and nothing but poop falls out. Everything you touch turns to crap, and the only friends you’ll ever have are the floaters you leave in the bowl seven times a day.

    1. Where ARE the bedwetters.

      Even your keyboard has turned to a big pile of steamy crap.

      POOP, wipe, SMEAR, Butcher the English Language, Post, Repeat.

  46. Anonymous :
    What? That doesn’t even make sense! You poopy bastard– learn to fucking speak English.
    Oh, wait– I forgot– you can’t. You have another anus where your brain is supposed to be.
    All you’ll ever be is a big fat poopy clown-man. You run your mouth and nothing but poop falls out. Everything you touch turns to crap, and the only friends you’ll ever have are the floaters you leave in the bowl seven times a day.

    Sticks and stones bud. Admit it you bedwetters fucked up. Thank you again.

    1. You know who you should thank? The comma. Use one. That or a fourth grader. You have a lot in common. Brain power, love of all things poopy and fart related . . . possibly Power Rangers, who knows?!

      You stupid, sorry, poopy bastard. Your mom must be incredibly proud of all your floating accomplishments.

    1. *Ploop*

      The sound of Rocky’s hopes and dreams landing in the toilet.

      An appropriate poopy pseudonym for such a poopy clown-man.

  47. Anonymous :
    *Ploop*
    The sound of Rocky’s hopes and dreams landing in the toilet.
    An appropriate poopy pseudonym for such a poopy clown-man.

  48. This is a typical run of the mill call that actually helps the officers, as it lends creedence to the confusion over Kelly Thomas’ true identity.

    Also, all you conspiracy theorists, if she was really trying to set something up, wouldn’t she have reported that he was actually breaking into cars as opposed to just “looking in cars” and “pulling on handles”?

    Time for the mob to extinguish their torches regarding the SlideBar manager.

    1. Nope, she’d have to prove that. Lifting handles was how she was coached, and that’s what she said.

    2. No, because there was no broken glass or open car doors or stolen property.

      “Lifting handles” was good because there would be no evidence of it.

      When Jeannette testifies under oath she will have to opportunity to provide all sorts of details heretofore omitted, maybe even if there was a set up with the FPD.

      Good times.

      1. Seriously. We had time to take a picture of Ramos’s boo-boo. Where’s the finger prints from the doors?

  49. Anonymous :
    *Ploop*
    The sound of Rocky’s hopes and dreams landing in the toilet.
    An appropriate poopy pseudonym for such a poopy clown-man.

    That plopp..was your hopes and dreams. We have been redeemed. Poppy man.

    1. Oh. My. God.

      You meant “ploop”, not “poppy” or “plopp”. You also meant “too” and not “to”. You also meant “. . .” and not “..”

      Please crawl back into the sewer that you were born in. You are the stinkiest poop of them all.

  50. Boy I am really messing up. You know what I meant. Hard to blog when I am 30,000 feet off the ground.

    1. I’m realizing that anytime anything positive happens everyone here tries to turn it into something its not. If someone saw something then they didn’t really see that. If someone called they didn’t really mean what they said. It’s hopeless. Sad state of affairs here at FFFF. Thank God for Anaheim.

    2. “Coached” in this case is synonymous with being told how to get an aggressive response from the FPD to get rid of transients in front of their businesses.

      A) Do you honestly think that the bar manager actually saw Kelly Thomas last year wondering around with a hatchet last year and didn’t call the police?

      B) The Slidebar Cafe has valet parking service in this parking area that is manned by a valet service. Don’t you think if someone were looking to break into cars, that they would’ve chosen a spot where people aren’t running in between cars to park and retrieve cars?

      C) The waiting area for the buses is next to the Slidebar. Buses and their passengers are always driving in and out of this area with lots of people that could be potential witnesses.

      D) When the call was made it was still light out. Not exactly the time that people break into cars in a highly populated town square now is it?

    3. Only time will tell whether anyone was coached on how to expedite the removal of homeless people from downtown areas or whether there was a Slidebar policy to do “whatever was necessary” to keep them away. One thing is for certain however. This particular manager was not a detached, objective witness. She certainly had an axe (in this case, hatchet) to grind for Kelly. Wow!

  51. Fullerton Lover :VW Type 53A…Is it true that you promote musical acts for the Slidebar Cafe, and have listed the Slidebar Cafe’s owner Jeremy Popoff as your best friend on Facebook?

    No.

    1. Good job with the comma. Unfortunately, the punctuation you were looking for was a semi-colon.

      I don’t need a whole lot of tricks to make fun of a stupid poopy clown man. Your poop speaks for itself.

        1. Yes, stupid is as stupid does. I wouldn’t want you to go another poopy moment without remembering what an absolute failure you are in life.

    1. Again, semi-colon. You should like semi-colons. They have the word “colon” right in them. It is your favorite organ.

      Enjoy what, your poop or your stupidity? Again, no thanks to either.

      Be sure to wash your hands before disembarking the plane. Better yet, flush REAL hard in the lavatory. Maybe we’ll all get lucky and you’ll get sucked right out at 35,000 feet.

  52. Anonymous :
    Again, semi-colon. You should like semi-colons. They have the word “colon” right in them. It is your favorite organ.
    Enjoy what, your poop or your stupidity? Again, no thanks to either.
    Be sure to wash your hands before disembarking the plane. Better yet, flush REAL hard in the lavatory. Maybe we’ll all get lucky and you’ll get sucked right out at 35,000 feet.

    Nope, I am in seventh heaven. If you are nice I will bring you something from New York. I’ll be back bright and early Friday. Now let me sleep.

  53. Fullerton Lover :
    “Coached” in this case is synonymous with being told how to get an aggressive response from the FPD to get rid of transients in front of their businesses.
    A) Do you honestly think that the bar manager actually saw Kelly Thomas last year wondering around with a hatchet last year and didn’t call the police?
    B) The Slidebar Cafe has valet parking service in this parking area that is manned by a valet service. Don’t you think if someone were looking to break into cars, that they would’ve chosen a spot where people aren’t running in between cars to park and retrieve cars?
    C) The waiting area for the buses is next to the Slidebar. Buses and their passengers are always driving in and out of this area with lots of people that could be potential witnesses.
    D) When the call was made it was still light out. Not exactly the time that people break into cars in a highly populated town square now is it?

  54. A) How do you know they didn’t.
    B) Valet only on weekends.
    C) Haven for the homeless. Nothing new.
    D) same as C.

  55. Well we pace through parking lots in between cars like we are on an obstacle course just to get to the front doors of a grocery store on a busy night, nothing illegal about that, i guess you have to move a lot faster in DTF near a holiday to avoid all the drunk drivers pulling in or leaving or trying to park thier cars especially if slidwbar offered no “sober” valets to shuttle cars that night of the 5th Was Demarco in the bar as has been allged by Reeves when she made the call or was she at her car when the “Christlike” figure of KT approached her? Was she just arriving to work? What hours was she scheduled to work that night? I would think a bar mngr. main concern would be directed to the goings on in the bar? and if she was in the bar how the heck did she “catch” KT pulling on door handles? at the bus station, at the train station anywhere besides inside the bar or immediatly in front of the bar, but Reeve would have noticed that also and he said it never happened. Lets check the film and match it to her story if she comes from outside or is seen outside when the call is made then it would be plauseible that she could have witnessed what she perceived to be KT pulling on handles or was he just steadying himself while bending down between cars to pick up cigg. butts, We think fsr more likely scenario since most car alarms go “OFF’ when door handles are lifted and no one mentioned that that ever ocurred. How long has deMarco been employed by slidebar, must be for a while if she new KT roamed the DTF area with a HATCHET, no less, really!? several years ago That would have made her how old several yeaRS ago, how old was she when she began her employ with slidebar….thats just off the top of my head, lawyers and the feds are trained to get at the truth, Emil and I bet they have all kinds of questions for Miss deMarco

  56. We don’t really give a damn about the identity of any of these cop troll as thier posts are just left here to divert attention away from the topics at hand, we wager some of the regular FFFF posters could really brainstorm this topic and add info that is herefore unthought of…

  57. Reality Is :
    No, because there was no broken glass or open car doors or stolen property.
    “Lifting handles” was good because there would be no evidence of it.

    Anonymous :
    Seriously. We had time to take a picture of Ramos’s boo-boo. Where’s the finger prints from the doors?

    When Jeannette testifies under oath she will have to opportunity to provide all sorts of details heretofore omitted, maybe even if there was a set up with the FPD.
    Good times.

    That is a famous picture. “The Boo Boo ” maybe you guys can sell it in the gallery. Screw the fingerprints.

  58. LeRoy Murray :
    Just like the video, this recording would have been made public the next day if non-cops were suspects or defendants.

    The CORRUPT DA has already taken the donation from the CORRUPT POLICE UNION. He has to deliver and he will when he throws the cases against the public executioners.

  59. It will pretty interesting to see whether Ms. DeMarco lies under oath to protect the Slide Bar and the FPD murderers. I’m guessing she’ll crack under pressure from the prosecution and the whole world will know that Kelly Thomas was set up by the FPD/SlideBar.

  60. Lucky for Kelly he wasn’t liftin door handles in Anaheim. When he started to run away, a bullet in the buttocks and one in the back of the head would have made quick work of him! In Anaheim they do not mess around. They have Disneyland and the Angels to protect! 50% of the Anaheim city budget comes from Hotel Bed Taxes!
    Back to Fullerton, Kelly needs to have a sculpture of himself put up by the bus station.. Sorta like the Joe Paterno 700 pound statue.

    1. I heard that ms. Silva said they may put a bench up, at the ”site ” where Kelly was MURDERED, ( ”Kelly`s Corner”) So, what is taking so long???? It`s only been over a year!!!!! To put in a bench???? Or, was that just more ”B.S.???” How about having the”6 murderer`s” pay for it too???

  61. Tuco Ramirez :
    Lucky for Kelly he wasn’t liftin door handles in Anaheim. When he started to run away, a bullet in the buttocks and one in the back of the head would have made quick work of him! In Anaheim they do not mess around. They have Disneyland and the Angels to protect! 50% of the Anaheim city budget comes from Hotel Bed Taxes!
    Back to Fullerton, Kelly needs to have a sculpture of himself put up by the bus station.. Sorta like the Joe Paterno 700 pound statue.

    How about a statute of Kelly’s Big Balls bronzed in gold?

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