The “Investigation.” Yeah, Right.

As has been pointed out previously on this blog, there are rules for us and then there are rules for the police. Stuff that they do would land us in jail with a hefty bail; they get paid administrative leave and walk the streets free men.

Those six guys over there won't talk to me. I've done all I can do...

Here’s another example of the distorted double standard: the so-called “investigation” of the Kelly Thomas death being concocted by our Do-nothing DA. We are told by the cop apologists to patiently await that magical moment when Mr. Rackauckas unveils the fruits of his labors.

I honestly can't remember...

But what might those labors have involved? We have been told that the investigation didn’t start until two days after the homicide. Two full days. Did the cops turn in their bloodied uniforms for analysis? Did they turn over their Tasers for forensic examination of finger prints and blood samples? Have they produced recording devices? Was the homicide scene secured for examination? Anybody want to take odds that none of this has occurred?

Ahm a doctah! Them injuries was slight...

I’m pretty sure if you or I bashed somebody’s head in all that evidence would have been secured, post haste, and we’d be cooling our heels in Theo Lacy, slam-bang, and no bail for you, buddy.

Are we supposed to scared?

But this is our new police state, brought to us courtesy of geriatric assclowns (thanks for the use, Joe S.) Jones, Bankhead and McKinley. It wasn’t enough for them to put the City’s finances at risk through extravagant pension giveaways. Oh no! They oversaw a veritable culture of corruption in the Fullerton Police Department, the depth of which the citizens and taxpayers are only now beginning to see.

Oh, and yeah. In this culture some of these miscreants believed they could get away with murder.

 

215 Replies to “The “Investigation.” Yeah, Right.”

      1. It looks, from the photo above,that old Doc Dick, Fullerton’s supreme scatologist/mayor is having quite the special moment.Maybe it is a stroke or just the onset of a mental meltdown, we can only hope. As well he should be somewhat unsettled, he is apart of the cabal whose mission it is to protect these 6 murderers from justice, and mostly everyone knows it. Also the photo above with the 3 officers in the backround and that really spooky looking guy in the foreground, are these the faces of the “new’ FPD? The guy in the foreground looks to be a senior officer to me. Actually he looks to be like some mummified pharouh from 3000 years ago. Maybe you should flush these fossils out of the system at least every 50 years or so. Maybe that is what the people of Fullerton need, an entirely new police department?

      2. The old guy in the front looks like he has some health issues (constipation, hemmorhoids, Alzheimer’s, etc.)…

    1. Grover, its flattering your plagiarizing of my posts. It’s important to scrutinize every minute issue of this investigation!

    1. All these politicans do not deserve a “Recall”. Fed and FBI should investigate and prosecute these enteprise criminals above.

  1. Tony right on. 45 days, video, 30 investigators, witnesses, and the body, and no charges? They are scared to death of the TRUTH getting out. God knows what they are really up to.

  2. THESE ANIMALS ARE GOING NOWHERE, BUT WHERE THEY WANT. THE FIX IS IN AND THEY ARE JUST RELAXING IN THE NEAREST GIN MILL THAT THEY ALL HAVE UNLIMITED TABS. AFTER ALL THEY ARE POWERFUL IN THIS CORRUPT CESSPOOL. I AM MOVING FAR AWAY ASAP.

  3. It amazes me how DA RackAss goes all the way to try to prosecute Mr. Mam with all the bullsh*@ police reports, video and all. It goes to show you how the DA always sucks and swallows whatever their little police people tell them. They probably didn’t even look at the evidence.

  4. This is a scam. Just like the kid in Brea that got Murdered by the Police union President, Shawn Neel.

    T-Rack will sit on this as long as humanly (and media-wise) possible and then soft shoe it.

    Maybe we are protesting at the WRONG place?

  5. My brother works in Fullerton and his boss knows two Fullerton cops. Apparently, Mr. Cicinelli is not well liked in the department because of his heavy-handed tactics. Now, I’ll bet the rest of the department is real proud of him!

    Also, my brother was in Chicago a couple of weeks ago at a trade show. Customers asked where the company was located and when he replied, “Fullerton, CA” the customer said, “Oh, we heard about the mafia disguised as police out there.”

    People of Fullerton be proud!!

    1. The whole world is watching and waiting for an answer. I hope that it’s a good one soon or all hell’s gonna break loose.

    2. And by proxy, the rest of Orange County is implicated.

      When you say “Fullerton is in Orange County”, the usual response is….”that figures.”

    3. Oh yeah, my brothers, friends, sisters cousin, on my step dads side drove through fullerton one time…whatever, jay is very well liked. He’s a military vet and a veteran police whos very well liked

      1. Very well-liked by all the rank and file officers — or just the other rage-a-holic thugs who high five each other in the locker room after brutalizing a suspect??? Just curious…

      2. Oh, really?? I heard “Jay-bird” has an extremely small manhood and he over compensates by beating unarmed, defenseless suspects, which helps him to feel less inadequate.

        But he’s a vet, you say?? OK, then, let’s thank him for that service. How bad could he be??? Not like he killed anybody.. oh, wait!!

      3. A vet eh? I will bet anything he is that “vet725” idiot on YouTube that trolls around posting “Long live FPD”.

    4. He must be heavy handed because he had his eye shot out, and this compromises a persons ability to govern their own passions that become their undoing.

      Maybe everyone in his path could be a target for misplaced rage, harbored by the unfortunate event that cost him his eye.

      Now everyone losses.

      Too bad we can’t also go after the guy that shot his eye out and pull the roof down on his head too.

      1. The over compensating bleeding deacons ware out the people around them, and the naive follow close behind, trapped by the idea that the suffered deacon may protect them from the experience.

      2. Raul Jimenez, the drunken gangbanger who shot Jay Cicinelli in the eye, and then 5 more times when he was on the ground, is serving two back-to-back Life Sentences in the the California Men’s Colony. He’s now 62. This was tragic!

        But what’s your point?

        Kelly Thomas’ beating and tasering till his face was beat to a pulp, he suffered brain damage from oxygen deprivation and blunt force trauma, and was put in a coma, is also tragic!

        1. actually in retrospect, the tragedy is that Raul wasn’t using hollowpoints or larger caliber, and ran out of bullets.

    5. Well I have a friend who grew up with Tony that doesn’t like hum either, what does that prove?

      Whine. Whine. Whine some more.

  6. Yes, move the protest to the place that needs the focus. Right now that would be the DA’s office. If they don’t have enough evidence in what should be open and shut…something’s up.

      1. Didn’t Jerry Brown announce to the press a few months ago that he has never seen the people so divided?

        Is this what he meant?

    1. The effectiveness of the protests depends on being visible to the media.

      The current location at FPD seems effective. Would the D.A.’s office be any better on a Saturday?

      The crux of the problem is certain police officers not being charged and continued to be employed at FPD.

      The fact that they are all still on paid leave speaks volumes.

      1. Please continue to have the protest in fullerton. The OT is awesome and the $ is lining the pockets of those people you call pigs just fine! Thx

        1. If you think a few hundred dollars of overtime pay to the few FPD officers left who AREN’T on suspension is going to deter justice seekers or somehow quiet the message, you are even more stupid than you are making yourself out to be already…

          The fact that you think $$$ trumps humanity, life and death, and the future of a city’s trust (or mistrust) in its institutions just shows what a shallow piece of crap you are. Congrats, and enjoy your overtime while you still have a job.

        2. I don’t think so. Unless they’re hiding in the basement of the building. Which is entirely possible.

        3. All the news reports I’ve read emphasized how few officers were present during the Saturday protests, like on the order of one, so it seems pretty hard for me to believe that these peaceful protests have somehow resulted in a bunch of overtime. More like a buncha bullshit…

    1. Well The Tao says:

      Men are born soft and supple;
      dead, they are stiff and hard.
      Plats are born tender and pliant;
      dead, they are brittle and dry.

      Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible
      is a disciple of death.
      Whoever is soft and yielding
      is a disciple of life.

      The hard and stiff will be broken.
      The soft and supple will prevail.

  7. I hear what you’re saying about preservation of evidence. However, the truely interesting thing will be if the FPD or the DA’s office took any pictures of Kelly Thomas, the victim (perp) all beat up in the hospital. I have never heard of a personal injury investigation that didn’t involve dozens of photos of the injuries.

    If the investigation was underway on July 7th do they have any photos of the victim? Can’t get a re-do on that one.

    1. The hospital pictures from Ron Thomas coupled with the city video should’ve been enough to charge some if not all 6 cops.

      D.A. is stalling.

  8. Just read the oc weekley report….slidebar manager should be in jail for making a false report and Mr. Thomas should sue the slidebar.

  9. LIBYA, rebels use mini-drones,

    in march on Tripoli,

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/08/libya-drone-revolution-.html
    VIDEO: __________

    looks like there is good reason that dirty cop terrorists with “police powers” FEAR the video camera, with

    a video record, there is a natural limit to the lying, falsifying, fabricating that these gov’t agent animals

    can plausibly get away with.

    Although with a $999/hour criminal defense lawyer, you can turn MOTHER TERESA into a child molester,

    even with a video record. So, keep FEARING the camera dirty cop terrorists.

    Mr. Ra-COCK-us, do you have any other ambitions than giving blow-jobs to the so-called police union every day,

    maybe like DOING YOUR j-o-b ????

    Kelly Thomas is DEAD. A human being is DEAD. how ? KILLED by Fullerton dirty cop terrorists with “police powers.”

    WHY ? for being a defenseless human being just trying to exist.

  10. just like Al Pachino’s character, colonel Slade said in scent of a women….What a crock of SHIT…What a shame! what kind of a show are you putting on here?
    if i were the man i was 5 years ago i’d throw a flame thrower to this place!!!
    justice??? where’s the grand jury???

  11. mean machine marine :just like Al Pachino’s character, colonel Slade said in scent of a women….What a crock of SHIT…What a sham! what kind of a show are you putting on here?if i were the man i was 5 years ago i’d throw a flame thrower to this place!!!justice??? where’s the grand jury???

  12. There was a guy killed by the L.B.P.D. seven months ago and still no report from the investigation. So in the case of Kelly Thomas don’t hold your breath, it probably will be years before they produce there findings and it will most likely say that Kelly attacked the police with a bazooka, two swards, a tank and three SCUD missiles.

    Welcome the the new USA Police State.

      1. It wasn’t even a water pistol, it was a hose nozel with a pistol style grip. And the guy was shot while sitting on his porch holding the thing. His dad is as pissed as Ron Thomas.

  13. LOL…. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA….. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…..
    HA HA HA HA LOL… HA HA HA HA

    That’s me laughing at all of you and you know why.

    1. Yeah, a guy got fkn shot and killed by the cops while holding a GD hose nozzle. Real funny. Speaking of nozzles: dude, you aren’t just a doucheBAG, you are a douche nozzle.

        1. Please do tell. I would love for you to hear the roid-piggy hearsay that going around in the lockerroom.

          1. Fullerton Cop # 4- You are a disgrace to law enforcement; your kind are a serious threat to law&order AND public safety.

        2. Fucking nazi, you’re a disgrace to the uniform, you’re a disgrace to you’re department, and you’re a disgrace to humanity. Why don’t you do the right thing and stick you’re pistol into you’re mouth, be sure to point it toward the brainstem, and splatter you’re minute brains all over the ceiling and wall. Good luck you miserable prick.

      1. If you’re stupid enough to hold anything that looks like a pistol while the police approach you, and it apparently did because a neighbor called and reported it, then you may be too stupid to be on this earth. Too bad this guy had to be a lead receptor because of his stupidity.

        1. The victim never even knew the officers were there; the officers never announced themselves and never even said, “Drop you weapon.” The victim never had a chance. He was intoxicated, but was just sitting on his porch in a couryard, on his private property. The only ones who were “stupid” were the officers.

  14. It’s clear that you think you have power, but you have nothing. You can yell and protest all you want. The investigation is done how the DA wants it done, and you have no say in that. You won’t get the video or pictures until he says you will get them. You can’t fire the cops until it’s proven they did something wrong. So they will be paid until that time. Yes, I know you think they did something wrong but your opinion doesn’t matter. The evidence is what matters. As you have been told from Day 1, keep yelling, keep screaming, keep threatening, keep flexing your weiner at night, you still won’t get anything until he says you will get something.

    1. Remember how J Brown jumped on the bell city band wagon and talked about going after the pension problem?

  15. yep ive been thinking this all along. have the investigators confiscated the cell phone text messages from cyclops, who supposedly bragged?

    1. Cyclops text messages can be subpoenaed. I’m not advocating it, but it sure would be nice if some computer savvy people out there could obtain those text messages and post them online.

        1. Fullerton Cop #4 on August 24, 2011
          Text messages aren’t stored. You can’t get any of the personal things. Next.

          I’d be very surprised if the NSA doesn’t store EVERYTHING.

      1. If cyclops uses a city phone, it should already be logged in as evidence and forensically examined for useful info.

    2. Cyclops had a youtube account where he bragged about it before denying it was him then deleted a bunch of videos including himself on swat raid.

  16. And start preparing for the next step because 6 cops won’t be charged and 6 cops won’t get the death penalty.

    1. The death penalty for Cyclops and 8ball!

      2nd Degree manslaughter for the two that showed up next. One backed off putting on the cuffs because he got sprayed with Kelly’s blood squirting out of his nose and forehead. And the other failed to intervene in the beating after Kelly has no longer moving.

      The last two arrived after the beating happened.

      1. Yep, in the video you can see them stride over to the already on the ground Thomas. They were not needed to subdue him..

        D.A. is stringing this along in the hopes that a $ deal with Ron Thomas is worked out that negates prosecuting the FPD6.

        1. Reality Check: You gotta be kidding. You think that if the city pays Thomas enough the DA will just make it go away? You must believe that Thomas controls how this will play out. The DA couldn’t care less how much Thomas gets paid or if he gets nothing. This isn’t about Thomas. If you’ll notice, Thomas’ lawyers finally got him to shut up in front of the cameras. They advised him that he’s not doing himself any favors by opening his mouth.

        2. Reality Check on August 23, 2011

          Yep, in the video you can see them stride over to the already on the ground Thomas. They were not needed to subdue him..

          In that case their are guilty of dereliction of duty. They should have immediately ‘subdued’ and cuffed Psychocyclops and Hampton. read them their Rights, and held them over for the DA to decide which murder charge to book them on.

          D.A. is stringing this along in the hopes that a $ deal with Ron Thomas is worked out that negates prosecuting the FPD6.

          The “DA,” what an undeserved title that corrupt slimeball enjoys.

          Guess we will all find out if the FPD trolls here are correct about Ron Thomas. If he makes the deal they are correct. If he takes it to court they’re are full of it. Why has Kamala D. Harris not initiated an investigation into T-Rack? The AG doesn’t normally need an invite from the Governor to do her job, does she? Clearly the California Governor hasn’t the stones to perform his job.

      2. 2nd degree manslaugter? What’s that? Who was there first? Second? Third? Fourth? Fifth? And last? What do you mean they “failed to intervene in the beating after Kelly was no longer moving.” You think they SHOULD HAVE intervened AFTER he was no longer moving? What the hell would that have done? Sounds like your type of “intervening” does nothing. Thank God you’re not in charge of anything.

        1. The blows, that were delivered after Kelly was already unconscious, could have been the coup de grace that finished him off. Each and every blow added to Kelly’s cumulative injuries and each blow contributed to his death. If someone had had the intelligence and humanity to intervene and had stopped the blows, choke holds, etc, that were delivered after he was unconscious, Kelly may have survived.
          HEAVEN Help US, if YOU are in charge of anything.

  17. The autopsy will have to come complete with photos and injuries… Someone is advocating this delirium hypothosis (AMA) does not recognize it.. it apparently popped up when Tasers started gettin popular and started killing people (mid 80’s and later). I have read on this delirium and it puts the perp in an altered drug induced state giving them super human strength. The videos have Kelly sreaming that he is sorry and calling for his dad… drugged out superhumans in an altered state who call out for their dads and apolgise and call to God would bring a brand new glitch to the superhuman theory…. Kelly apologized (he knew he was in trouble) Kelly called for God to help (he knew he needed help) Kelly called for his dad (someone he could trust and he saw as a protector)….. and he was beaten into a coma and died.

    1. dad was trust and protector? You serious? Come on. At least say something that could be half true.

      1. Dood! Did you errr ummm write your reports in the same sloppy way you post on here? You’re fired assclown!

      2. Fullerton Cop #4 on August 24, 2011
        dad was trust and protector? You serious? Come on. At least say something that could be half true.

        You’re sure one to be talking about “trust” and “protecting.” You have lost the trust of the people you are SWORN to PROTECT, OATH-BREAKER.

  18. These 6 cops are now on a witness protection program, disguised and out of this country as we speak. Thanks to our system.

    1. Now why would that be if they are innocent…. you would think that Fullerton would be guarding them around the clock since overtime and money is no object. I doubt they are out of the country and in witness proection but they are not at home answering the door for girl scouts.

      1. If one 140 pound homeless man scares them, I imagine that 5 girl scouts at 50 pounds each must be absolutely terrifying for them.

          1. Reading some older posts-
            Fullerton Cop #4: I don’t know who you are, punk, but you have no business being around anyone’s kids.

    2. WE are still in the same house in Newport Beach enjoying our paid time off. Come visit us. We like to play.

  19. Sissynelli you have not answered my question.. did the smelly dead homeless guys blood wash out or did you throw the uniform out?…Ii want to know because as a tax payer if you threw it out I want reimbursement. If not I would like to have it so it can be tested for splatter evidence and to see if these imaginary super human genes from Kelly got splashed on it.

        1. Ask Tony about that. I wouldn’t know. I have NEVER had any drugs, really didn’t see a point in it.

        2. This ass crack rump ranger isn’t a cop even a pig knows better than to spout this crap. Does daddy know you’re online? I bet he got you started with being a patrol man in the rump rangers didn’t he? I don’t believe anything fullertonfag#4 says he said he likes little girls I don’t think he likes any size girls. Now if boy scouts sold cookies he’d open the door.

      1. “Everyone know that hydrogen peroxide takes blood stains out.”

        No, pretty much only murdering assholes know that kind of information.

  20. They snipped and sucked parts of Kellys dead body to look for drugs to try and discredit the beating,,,, did they even check the cops for roids? Look at ole Hampton, the guy is huge and agressive. They are putting pieces of kelly the victim in tubes and slides but the huge, overly musceled inraged Hampton who is on video smacking and slamming guys around gets weeks to clear his system from possible drug/roid use…. pathetic.

  21. These cop apologists want facts.. well the fact is that kellys dead body was photoed, cut open, snipped, sucked and disected… and the cops have not even been talked to…. and you wonder why we believe cops are murderers and liars.

  22. Don’t let Quirk-Silva off the hook. She is a dirty as the rest of them, and was late to the party. As to Bruce, at least he figured out that if said anything, he could be sued individually, and be liable as well with no protection from the City. And, for all the concerned citizen’s protesting about Kelly, if you don’t live in Fullerton, please leave, and WE DON’T HAVE AND WANT YOU HERE, AND QUITE FRANKLY WE DON’T GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK.

    1. “WE DON’T HAVE AND WANT YOU HERE, AND QUITE FRANKLY WE DON’T GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK.”

      He’s like one of those Mississippi geriatric racists that slugs down Meister Brau all day on the porch and saying “We dun take too kindly to yuh kind ’round heeaahh” to anyone that passes by.

      What a douche!

  23. hgwt?? does that mean the eyewitnesses that got on the bus too??
    you never know who may be able to help your cause.
    i hope you don’t really mean that.

  24. The next protest could be at the DA’s office, or it could be at the OC Register. that might make the LA Times jealous.

    Yes Fullerton Slidercakes, the protesters have no direct control over the DA. But the DA has no direct control over the Fullerton voters, and this is still a civilian society.

    Outraged, you are comparing the inport of an apparent police murder of a mentally ill man to your friend’s dislike of the messenger? Or did I miss your simile?

  25. Orange County Register
    877-469-7344
    625 N. Grand Ave., Santa Ana, CA 92701
    Lobby hours: 8 a.m. – 5 p.m. Mon.-Fri. • Cashier hours: 9 a.m. – 5 p.m. Mon.-Fri.

    good main traffic there, but they are closed on sat.

    as well as the DA’s
    which is on a small street, the only traffic there might be ppl getting released from jail and visitors to the jail

    Fullerton PD seems the best place to me.

    oops.. sorry, just an outsiders opinion

  26. NONE of you are saying anything new. Just the same old whining and waisting time/ space on this blog.

    Some of you “claim” to know things but you DON’T. I think it’s funny that some of you are threatened by those of us who want facts. You know why we want facts….

    Because the FACTS of this case will speak for themselves and there’s no way around that. You can continue to “peddle” your lies about the officers, city council, fpd, and DA….and whoever it will be tomorrow….the truth is that this blog will in the end..Be wrong!

  27. Thomas Kelly is still around in Fullerton and watching. It is only dead man can see a fair justice in Fullerton and Orange County.

  28. Whoever is misspelling words left and right, you can’t hijack my blog name.

    None of what you said in the last 4 posts sound like me so good luck. I have energy to burn. I don’t give up. So just keep trying because I won’t stop.

  29. I know my comments contradict themselves all the time but just bear with me, trying to have original thoughts wear me out

    Two can play @ this game

    Are we having fun yet?

  30. Threats won’t scare me guys. Nice try.

    I could dish on you two if you’d like. Someone will take notice, eventually.

  31. Copied quote from comment of a former cop

    “…I’d be surprised if a Grand Jury isn’t looking at this as we speak. This is international- my relatives in Germany called me about it. The tidal wave that is going to hit FPD is staggering. This is going to be an open wound for a long time- a scar forever.

    And save your replies about withholding judgment until all the facts are in…there are enough facts right now (a death at the hands of others, video, spontaneous statements on video by witnesses, an ominous silence by FPD) in front of the public to make a probable cause arrest- like Ron Thomas said a citizen’s ass would be in a dark cell right now.”

  32. Wrong Guy :
    It amazes me how DA RackAss goes all the way to try to prosecute Mr. Mam with all the bullsh*@ police reports, video and all. It goes to show you how the DA always sucks and swallows whatever their little police people tell them. They probably didn’t even look at the evidence.

    “They probably didn’t even look at the evidence.”

    BINGO! Why should they when their boy the DA just does what they tell him?

  33. outraged :
    NONE of you are saying anything new. Just the same old whining and waisting time/ space on this blog.
    Some of you “claim” to know things but you DON’T. I think it’s funny that some of you are threatened by those of us who want facts. You know why we want facts….
    Because the FACTS of this case will speak for themselves and there’s no way around that. You can continue to “peddle” your lies about the officers, city council, fpd, and DA….and whoever it will be tomorrow….the truth is that this blog will in the end..Be wrong!

    WE FOCUS on the most important facts.. the ones you and the police force try to ignore

    Fact: They beat a man into a coma at a bus station under camera and eyewitness.

    Fact: That man died 5 days later but truly left the scene DEAD ALREADY.. He was in a coma on the scene after they brutalized him..

    NOW they need to PROVE they were NOT the cause of his death..

    Can we “citizens arrest” any of these buffoons or try to bring a suit against the city ASAP if they do not hurry up and quit hiding and finding ways to secure their pensions they stole from the same city as the citizen they murdered?

    Their chief at least needs dereliction of duty for allowing them to keep their badges or at least not forcing them to take a day or two off immediately after they murdered that homeless man.. BUT the Chief probably gave them a raise for really setting a fine example of “by the book” police work

  34. I wonder if anybody did an analysis of Kelly’s skull injuries and compare that to forensic examination of the tasers. Also an examination of the concrete curb was in order. Did any of these things occur? I really would like to know.

    Mr. Goodrich, can you please tell us? Ms. Kang Schroeder? Care to comment.

    WHITEWASH!!!!!!!

    1. Medical Examination..Why didn’t Ron Thomas wait for the swelling to go down before pulling the plug on Kelly? I am sure everything would of healed. Asked a doctor friend. Pulled the plug, cremate the body..yeah, no waiting….. Chaching!!

      1. It’s one thing to have an honest disagreement on issues.

        It’s quite another to be a completely heartless asshole. The comment above by “john doe” is totally out of line and indicative of a person without a single ounce of humanity or human feeling.

        Sad that such people exist here…

        1. Anonymous :
          It’s one thing to have an honest disagreement on issues.
          It’s quite another to be a completely heartless asshole. The comment above by “john doe” is totally out of line and indicative of a person without a single ounce of humanity or human feeling.
          Sad that such people exist here…

          The person that didn’t have an ounce of humanity was Ron Thomas who didn’t give a shit about his son.

          1. What a piece of human garbage you are. You don’t know Ron Thomas. You never met Kelly Thomas. You are just spewing crap with no knowledge whatsoever.

            I can only hope that none of your loved ones ever gets brutally beaten to death and some jackass blames you for the acts of six raging cops. Even if it were true (which it clearly isn’t, what the [email protected]#[email protected]# does it have to do with police brutality?????).

          2. What a hero you are! You’ve managed to trash a brutality victim and his grieving parents all in the same day! Did that give you an erection (at least “semi”)???

            Your parents must be so proud of what an amoral heartless prick they raised! Oh wait, let me play the game — “They didn’t give a shit about you!!!!” I know based on the flimsy evidence I gleened from your comments and total lack of morality and empathy for others.

      2. Why didn’t Ron Thomas wait for the swelling to go down…

        Good point! Why didn’t the swelling start going down 5 days after the beating?

          1. john doe on August 24, 2011
            The picture was taken on the first day…after 5 days. Was there a picture taken…no.

            Mr. Thomas said in the beginning he has lots of pictures. Aren’t you clowns the ones who keep whining to waawaawaa wait for all the evidence (to disappear?) Believe it! During the civil trial plenty of pictures will be made available. When is the video going to become available, after holographic filming makes video obsolete? Or after it gets mysteriously erased? You are a corrupt piece of…OATH-BREAKER

      3. Are you a doctor (or have any functioning brain cells at all)??

        When people use the term “pull the plug,” do you really picture them sneaking behind the bed and pulling out an extension cord?? Is that really what Ron did? (so you’re saying his son just had some minor facial lacerations and his father, in effect, killed him). You can’t possibly be that stupid, can you??

        You DO realize, don’t you, that he was brain dead (as determined by medical doctors, not a “greedy parent.”). Wow you are one gigantic MOOOOOORON!

      4. Cuz jackass, Kelly was already brain dead and not salvageable by the time he was put in the waaaaaahhhmublance!

  35. I ♥ COPS :
    LOL…. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA….. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…..
    HA HA HA HA LOL… HA HA HA HA
    That’s me laughing at all of you and you know why.

    Because you are a sadistic prick who gleefully basks in the unjust suffering of others.

  36. Hey ‘I blow Cops” the Dr’s would not let Ron turn off life support unless they knew as Dr’s (lots of schooling. training etc.. unlike you) that Kelly was brain dead. Dr’s take an oath to “do no harm” … Fullerton Cops did not take that oath. If Ron had of tried to do something against Dr’s suggestions then we would know it (turn off a loved ones life support and you will know how hard it is) … you are a pariah and should end yourself beacause you add nothing to this killing and probaly life in general.

    1. Turn it off? WTF are you talking about, you fool???

      It’s not a freakin’ remote control where you press a button? All you remorse-less idiots on this blog make it sound like HE pushed a button and his son died as a result. Are you 6 years old??? Seriously!!! He died as a result of massive injuries from large men pummeling him.

      Doctors consult with the family, let them know the sad news, and then the family must make an agonizing decision. It’s not a split-second, in front of the vending machine choice between skittles and twix.

      1. They are grasping at straws,, in liberal kalifornia turing off life support is really hard unless multiple Dr’s agree that the brain is dead… and all possibilities are presented.. Dr’s give their prognosis… cop lovers cannot accept the fact that they belong to a union of killers and liars… but we the people know. keep trying Sissynelli maybe i will be on the jury… I’ll be looking into your good eye.

    2. jaynbond on August 24, 2011
      Yeah, why did he turn it off so soon? I think we all know why!!!!

      Because you are one brain dead jailbird?

  37. And why was he cremated so soon if he didn’t trust the coroner? He could have had an independent autopsy.

  38. Anon. Brush up on your medical skills, you sound foolish! Cold hard facts are hard to take! Has nothing to do with the emotional side of this mess.

  39. The only fool here is YOU.

    You sound like an idiot…. “Why did he turn it off.””

    Moron….. He went into his hospital room and “turned it off”???? Really?????

    so stupid!

  40. By the way, idiot, where are these “cold hard facts” you mention??

    Can you please provide a link of a reliable article that said Ron Thomas walked into Kelly’s room and turned “it” off in a cold, emotionless manner without extensive medical discussions with his doctor.

    What do you know?? Are you a family member? Did you receive the doctors’ prognosis?? If not, why don’t you shut your pie hole (not emotion, just common sense — don’t talk about your own ignorance.)

  41. Prediction – The DA is stalling so that the FBI will be the ones to press charges first. So, the feds will prosecute the cops and the DA walks without any political harm. Any questions?

  42. jaynbond :
    Anon. Brush up on your medical skills, you sound foolish! Cold hard facts are hard to take! Has nothing to do with the emotional side of this mess.

    You might be the dumbest person I have ever encountered on any message forum.

    WHO Was going to pay for his medical expenses?

    He was BRAINDEAD from repeated beatings and electrocutions

    I would like to know how much cop spit the coroner found spat on his face and body

  43. I just had a thought about all the trolls here whose singular focus appears to be bashing the family and the victim.

    First, a quote from an article on FullertonStories.com about the lawyer who encouraged Ron Thomas to accept the city’s offer:

    “An offer was not put on the table, but according to Ron Thomas, Praet said that if he decided to continue with a civil suit, Praet’s job would be to degrade Kelly Thomas and his relationships with his family.

    Could the trolls be lawyers or work for lawyers using us to practice, hone, and fine-tune their arguments? Perhaps to establish that there is public opinion supporting their arguments? We already know these trolls are bastards who will insult a grieving family. And we know the attorney said this would be his tactic.

    1. Nope they are cops that Sissynelli and Hampton owe money too…. Hey has anyone ever seen Hampton scratch his own back? Put some money on your boys account because they aint going to the Korona club prison… these guys are going to some serious Fed time… (got a buddy who is a fed guard told him about these assholes) … they are looking forward to some dirty cops to keep locked up 23 of 24…. (Feds hate dirty local cops, makes em mad)

  44. Anonymous :What a piece of human garbage you are. You don’t know Ron Thomas. You never met Kelly Thomas. You are just spewing crap with no knowledge whatsoever.
    I can only hope that none of your loved ones ever gets brutally beaten to death and some jackass blames you for the acts of six raging cops. Even if it were true (which it clearly isn’t, what the [email protected]#[email protected]# does it have to do with police brutality?????).

    I’m sorry had to jump in this discussion here…if none of your family is kicked out and living on the streets, off psychotic drugs, resisting officers THEN YEA think their family member will be safe.

    Have you heard about schizophrenics when they experience a psychotic break? Yea, well you could look it up but may be too technical for you, so here’s a link.

    Schizophrenia – HealthCentral.com – Trusted, Reliable and Up …
    Many schizophrenics feel they possess extraordinary powers, superhuman strength, or superior insights. They may believe that their thoughts are being controlled by others …
    http://www.healthcentral.com/encyclopedia/408/​472.html

    1. Here’s another piece of human garbage (or the same one). You like to copy and paste, but you obviously are oblivious to what you are posting, so let me try to educate you (although it may be “too technical”):

      1) the schizophrenic thinks he may have “superhuman strength” — but he doesn’t. Did the 6 officers who beat him to death think the 140-lb. unarmed man have super powers???? Was it necessary to brutally kill him??? No.. didn’t think so.

      2) Whether Kelly Thomas was on his drugs, off his drugs, on the street, in a park, etc., had nothing to do with what happened to him or gave the officers any justification for the savage beating.

      3) The original post was criticizing another poster for his insensitive defaming of a dead man and his grieving family (apparently you didn’t understand that).

      4) If you truly believe that only seriously mentally ill people or people who have been “neglected by their families” are the only possible victims of police misconduct, abuse, humiliation, excessive force, etc., then you are quite obviously even dumber than your post indicates (and no doubt never watch TV nor get — or are able to read — a newspaper).

  45. A schizophrenic person may have no hallucinations, but believe they are Hitler or Jesus, etc. They might believe they have superhuman powers that no one else does. They may believe that television shows are written and aired just to give them a message. They could think the FBI is after them because they alone speak a secret language that could end the world. All sorts of possibilities. These would be delusions.

    Auditory hallucinations are usually not the wind or a fan noise- those would probably not be clinically significant hallucinations, depending on who you talk to. Hearing voices is quite common. Screaming, crying, commands, insults- those are common auditory hallucinations.

    Visual hallucinations could be anything- seeing animals, people, bizarre objects, blood… any manner of things.

    Bear in mind that the presence of hallucinations, delusions, or even catatonia is not necessarily called schizophrenia. Only a psychologist, psychiatrist or appropriate counselor can diagnose for sure.

  46. Portland Police Commissioner Dan Saltzman explains city’s …
    … person becomes uncontrollable and seems to develop superhuman strength … he was not and had not urinated and yes he was schizophrenic. “According to a police …
    http://www.oregonlive.com/…/portland_police_​commissioner_d.html

    UK: “Dad” wearing Islamic garb and chanting “Allah” fights …
    A ZOMBIE-like fanatic with “superhuman” strength fought off NINE cops and a police ROTTWEILER as he … Not schizoid, schizophrenic. Very different things. All assuming …
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/uk-dad-​wearing-islamic-garb

    Current Events : Discussions : Woman killed baby/NEW INFO …
    … ANTONIO (July 29) – Otty Sanchez, a schizophrenic … was arrested at her mother’s house, where police … The woman has super human strength & is not afraid to use it.
    indianapolis.momslikeme.c

    The cause of death was listed as “excited delirium,” a condition that manifests as a combination of delirium, psychomotor agitation, anxiety, hallucinations, speech disturbances, disorientation, violent and bizarre behaviour, insensitivity to pain, elevated body temper-at u re and superhuman strength. The diagnosis of excited delirium has been controversial, particularly among civil liberty groups.

    om/members/​journalactio

    Family sues city, police over death – The Sudbury Star …
    Police were called and Jeanveau was pepper sprayed … to pain, elevated body temper-at u re and superhuman strength. … if he was wacked out on drugs or having a Schizophrenic …
    http://www.thesudburystar.com/​ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2921480
    ns.aspx?…

    You see, this is NOT an isolated incident, I can give you more…

    1. MORE never ending excuses for beating an unarmed man to death??

      FPD officers murdered Kelly WHILE he was fully compliant, not resisting, and motionless, (as motionless as could be expected from someone who is writhing uncontrollably in pain and agony after having his skull slammed into the concrete curb and being kicked, Tased and beaten.)

      And, Kelly was unabatedly and violently assaulted while he was screaming for mercy, while he screamed for God and for his dad to HELP, HELP, HELP!, while he was lying flat on the ground, while he was being sat on by three officers who Tased him repeatedly, while he was kicked, beaten with nightsticks, and at least twice knee dropped on his face and throat, while he was surrounded and beaten by 6 armed, bullet proof vest wearing officers, who were most likely amped up by Roid rage.

      The beating continued even AFTER Kelly was motionless and unconscious.

      STOP blaming the victim. The officers did NOT follow proper arrest and control techniques. It is NOT a proper arrest and control technique to beat and restrain someone’s head.

      Your pathetic attempts to justify the horrific murder of Kelly Thomas just go on and on and on, ad infinitum.

      Only the guilty parties to this grievous crime give any credence AT ALL to your pathetic defense of the indefensible. .

  47. Kehwen :
    Raul Jimenez, the drunken gangbanger who shot Jay Cicinelli in the eye, and then 5 more times when he was on the ground, is serving two back-to-back Life Sentences in the the California Men’s Colony. He’s now 62. This was tragic!
    But what’s your point?
    Kelly Thomas’ beating and tasering till his face was beat to a pulp, he suffered brain damage from oxygen deprivation and blunt force trauma, and was put in a coma, is also tragic!

    Jay survived and might get some community service or sensitivity classes AND HE MURDERED someone while his ass survived

  48. More schizophrenics and police :
    Portland Police Commissioner Dan Saltzman explains city’s …
    … person becomes uncontrollable and seems to develop superhuman strength … he was not and had not urinated and yes he was schizophrenic. “According to a police …
    http://www.oregonlive.com/…/portland_police_​commissioner_d.html
    UK: “Dad” wearing Islamic garb and chanting “Allah” fights …
    A ZOMBIE-like fanatic with “superhuman” strength fought off NINE cops and a police ROTTWEILER as he … Not schizoid, schizophrenic. Very different things. All assuming …
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/uk-dad-​wearing-islamic-garb
    Current Events : Discussions : Woman killed baby/NEW INFO …
    … ANTONIO (July 29) – Otty Sanchez, a schizophrenic … was arrested at her mother’s house, where police … The woman has super human strength & is not afraid to use it.
    indianapolis.momslikeme.c
    The cause of death was listed as “excited delirium,” a condition that manifests as a combination of delirium, psychomotor agitation, anxiety, hallucinations, speech disturbances, disorientation, violent and bizarre behaviour, insensitivity to pain, elevated body temper-at u re and superhuman strength. The diagnosis of excited delirium has been controversial, particularly among civil liberty groups.
    om/members/​journalactio
    Family sues city, police over death – The Sudbury Star …
    Police were called and Jeanveau was pepper sprayed … to pain, elevated body temper-at u re and superhuman strength. … if he was wacked out on drugs or having a Schizophrenic …
    http://www.thesudburystar.com/​ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2921480
    ns.aspx?…
    You see, this is NOT an isolated incident, I can give you more…

    WITNESSES
    Fake Crime reports
    beating in his face
    multiple tasers

    **whatever the story is up there about 9 cops.. they were all retarded..

    Personally, I would authorize shooting the fool in the foot or at least discharging your firearm in a way that gets their attention

    FWIW.. 9 cops and a van and some gas bombs etc AND THEY STILL MANAGED NOT NOT NOT TO MURDER HIM

    Sorry but your police force is a criminal enterprise

  49. “Overtime” There is nothing more pungent than the stench of pig shit. Oink, oink. Nice little blog you agitating psycho. This forum is about a 135lb man being murdered by 6 testosterone poisoned rageholics in front of over 80 witnesses while they’re on video. Hope you choke while you’re face down in the taxpayer funded trough sucking up your precious overtime, heartless bastard.

    “Fullerton Cop #4” Hey Sgt. Friday, either you’re some twisted provocateur whose motives are god knows what, or you’re a true sociopathic cop just like your 6 other homicidal buddies. I’m inclined to believe the latter. A guy can’t be all bad if he “likes” girls, I wonder if you had micro wood as you typed that little gem? Your old Chief sure jumped ship pretty fast, I hope he has a fatal coronary. Maybe Doc Dick could run in and save the day, unless he is only a mere scatologist. Keep dividing the people from their public servants Cop #4, as if the people of Fullerton, California, and the USA aren’t enraged enough about this disgusting murder. FPD=PIGSHIT that is what mostly everyone will think when they hear the word Fullerton.

    “I Love Cops” Are you really a 12 year old girl, or are you a man with a 12 year old mentality acting like one? With that very articulate writing style, and thought provoking content, I think now that you are an adult. You really typed Ha like 50 times, get a life anal wart. Maybe, if you suck up enough, you can join the weekly FPD locker room circle jerk, you know just be one of the boys. Perhaps you can finally feel a real sense of belonging to a well disciplined group of notorious scumbags.

  50. HAS ANYONE CONTACTED OR FILLED OUT A FORM FOR THE FEDERAL GRAND JURY TO GET AN INVESTIGATION STARTED?

  51. Maybe the DA’s office oughta put Claudia Alvarez on the case. She’s already finding Nazis in downtown Santa Ana, and they know plenty about murder. What a classy organization TRack’s running over there.

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