More “Leadership” Poultry Courtesy of Loretta Sanchez

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When I was a kid, liberals were all about civil rights, social justice, anti-police corruption, women’s rights, etc., etc., etc.

Maybe professorial tenure, home mortgage interest deductions, and appointment to a City Community Service Commission or Bicycle Committee tends to make one complaisant. I don’t know.

In the wake of the Kelly Thomas murder at the hands of the FPD, and the revelation of a potential serial sex offender in FPD uniform, Fullerton’s liberals have been silent as a graveyard. A great letter to the Fullerton Observer by a guy named Steve Baxter sums up the situation to perfection.

Maybe this silence marks the difference between a statist liberal and what is now being called a “progressive.” I don’t know.

But one thing I do know: the first category includes our esteemed Congressional She-Bear, Loretta Sanchez, whose district includes south-central Fullerton, as well as some of the locations where women allege they were sexually assaulted in the backseat of an FPD patrol car!

Here’s an e-mail from one of the recall petition signature gatherers who re-enforces the ugly truth that Ed Royce isn’t our only congressional problem.

I was at the Stater Brothers today with my recall petition and I had an interesting conversation with a 50-ish red-headed woman who happens to work for Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez.  I asked her if she was interested in signing my petition to recall our City Councilman and Mayor and was sort of shocked when she declined.   As she was putting away her groceries I asked her what Ms. Sanchez position was on the recent events that had occurred in Fullerton, and she told me that Ms. Sanchez was staying out of the matter because it didn’t involve her constituents.  I said that that was odd because I had voted for her in the last election and that I live in West Fullerton.  She said that Loretta’s district only encompassed a sliver of Fullerton and that where Kelly Thomas was beaten to death was out of her district!
I sort of left it at that, however when I got home and checked the district map for Loretta Sanchez I saw that not only is my home in her district, but the site where Kelly Thomas was beaten to death is maybe 200 feet from the boundary.
Is there any way that you guys can inspire this champion of women’s rights to engage in what’s going on here in Fullerton?  I got the distinct impression that Loretta Sanchez was looking to stay out of the fray and distance herself from what’s going on in her district, and I think that it’s important that she get involved or make a statement on what her position is pertaining to violations of Kelly Thomas’s civil rights, as well as the violation of the these recent allegations of sexual assault under color of authority by members of the the Fullerton Police department.
Best Regards,
p.s. I’ve changed my political affiliation to “decline to state” on my voter registration so there is no love lost on Loretta.
http://lorettasanchez.house.gov/our-district/district-map

 

It’s pretty obvious that Ms. Sanchez has seen her main chance in trying to ignore things in Fullerton and hope like hell that no one will ever associate her with what was done, or in her case what hasn’t been done. Comically Ms. Loretta found time from her busy schedule to attend the Fullerton Library re-opening – a building also not in her district – while 500 feet away people of good will were protesting the murder of a helpless homeless man at the hands of the FPD.

Disgustingly, Sanchez seems a lot more interested in the civil rights of Vietnamese women (who live eight thousand miles outsider her district) than with her own constituents.

Sanchez could get the Department of Justice fired up with a phone call. But even that smallest of gestures would require a modicum of courage.

181 Replies to “More “Leadership” Poultry Courtesy of Loretta Sanchez”

      1. You absolutely can recall a Congressperson. The Founding Fathers assumed (maybe incorrectly) that we wouldn’t be braindead and could figure things out ourselves now and then. Here is the process: 1) think hard about whether the person needs recalling. 2) if they do, start raising hell. Protests, media, public discussion, etc. 3) once the rest of the populace agrees, everyone raises more hell. The Congressperson becomes unable to perform their job, so.. 4) other Congresspeople ask them to resign. 5) Eventually they resign.
        Perfect example is Congressmen Weiner.

  1. If you believe that our Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez should be more involved in asking for inquiries into the death of Kelly Thomas, and the sexual assaults of God knows how many woman over the last few years at the hands of Officers within the Fullerton Police Department, I wholeheartedly encourage you to contact our Congresswoman and politely request that she become involved at a Federal level immediately before something tragic like this befalls another.
    https://lorettasanchez.house.gov/contact-me

    1. No! Not more layers of government. We the people are the government. All we need to do is recall or vote these paid for by special interests congresspersons out of office

      1. Until “we the people” can frogmarch corrupt public servants down to the Federal Pen all by ourselves, I don’t see the problem with demanding our Department of Justice live up to its name.

        1. U R soo right, we should let the experts decide for us what is right and wrong. Y should we trust our own common sense? U know maybe we should not even have blogs or free speech because we don’t first get it sanctioned by government officials

    2. If you’re outside her district by zip code she doesn’t accept or reply to email. The best answer is vote her out of office.

  2. Loretta needs to take a position. Even better she needs to be removed from office next time around. If her answers are what she says she’s a coward who is afraid of losing the support of the police union and their contributions. Perhaps an investigation into her finances and her contrbutors may explain many things. I wouldn’t vote for her after hearing this. She has to go.

  3. What a coward, something as serious as the two issues mentioned, and she won’t comment.

    Yes she sees dollars from the police union in the future along with her other cronies.

    Typical.

  4. Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez is a great argument for Thomas Jefferson’s “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.” Give Fullerton’s recall longer and stronger legs and recall/vote out Congresspersons Royce and Sanchez

  5. van get it da artiste :
    Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez is a great argument for Thomas Jefferson’s “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.” Give Fullerton’s recall longer and stronger legs and recall/vote out Congresspersons Royce and Sanchez

    That’s the obvious. loretta has more respect and concern for the police union’s money and backing than the safety of the majority of citizens in her community. Loretta has shown her true colors yellow, green and blue. Organize a movement to remove her. Loretta does not care about the rights and welfare of the people. She’s a bigshot senorita who kiss anyones ass who fills her purse.

  6. I had to mistakenly deal with Sanchez’s office when I worked at a company in Anaheim 10 years ago and needed to contact them regarding something business related. Let me tell you, that office is not only horrible, they make horrible look good. I called her office and the woman on the phone whined and whined and whined because I was asking her to actually think a little and get us the information I needed. I then wondered if I was wrong and needed to speak to Rohrbacher’s office. (Did he cover Anaheim at the time? I had to call a Republican’s office, I know.) Oh geez, I was right. We were represented by the Republican-and they got me my information in two seconds. Honestly though, you sometimes do have to stay away from petitions for employment related purposes. It’s sad but true.

  7. Excellent post Desert Rat!

    A few things come to mind:

    First, Congresswoman Sanchez’s keen sense to avoid controversy (save some of the maniacs in her district who think Bob Dornan was the answer).
    Second, her close relationship with Sharron Quirk-Silva, As was widely reported, Sharron left Sanchez’s DC wedding to attend the firey council meeting in Fullerton. It was reported Loretta’s advisiors told Sharron to go. She left so fast, she left her husband behind!

    Lastly, “Sanchez type liberals” in OC have totally abandoned Social Justice as a tennant of thier being, really this is as much of a shame as the Ed Royce’s embracing the lunitac fundalmentalists.

    Simply. put, Loretta never lost touch with the Kelley Thomas’ of the world, she never had it!

    THAT SUCKS!

  8. Tony Serra :
    Excellent post Desert Rat!
    A few things come to mind:
    First, Congresswoman Sanchez’s keen sense to avoid controversy (save some of the maniacs in her district who think Bob Dornan was the answer).
    Second, her close relationship with Sharron Quirk-Silva, As was widely reported, Sharron left Sanchez’s DC wedding to attend the firey council meeting in Fullerton. It was reported Loretta’s advisiors told Sharron to go. She left so fast, she left her husband behind!
    Lastly, “Sanchez type liberals” in OC have totally abandoned Social Justice as a tennant of thier being, really this is as much of a shame as the Ed Royce’s embracing the lunitac fundalmentalists.
    Simply. put, Loretta never lost touch with the Kelley Thomas’ of the world, she never had it!
    THAT SUCKS!

    She minds her own business that is good.

    1. …this IS her business!
      •Congressional Human Rights Caucus
      •Congressional Labor and Working Families Caucus
      •Congressional LGBT Equality Caucus
      •Congressional Mental Health Caucus
      •Congressional Military Families Caucus
      •New Democrat Coalition•Congressional Caucus on Innovation and Entrepreneurship
      •Congressional Caucus on Korea
      •Congressional Caucus on Vietnam
      •Congressional Caucus on Women in the Military
      •Congressional Cyber-Security Caucus]
      Loretta Sanchez’s business IS to represent us and from what I found, Loretta Sanchez is supposed to be a member on Congressional Caucus committees that focus on Human Rights and Mental Health issues that were both are applicable here to not only Kelly Thomas and the 12 women that we know of who were sexually assaulted, there are also a ton of people who were Vietnamese, Hispanic, and Anglos alike whose civil rights were violated when they were detained unjustly, beaten beyond recognition, and then had false charges brought against them by the FPD to cover their misdeeds up.

      1. Amazing FL that she is on the Human Rights Committee and has made no public statements about this.

        The silence from our politicians on this case and on the continuous scandals and outrages of law enforcement in SoCal is really a wakeup call. And the call is saying forget political affiliation – the entire system has been corrupted completely.

      2. this should be put on the flyers to vote out loretta sanchez. strangely, kelly thomas was that voice in the wilderness whose cry for help, for his father, has cut down the most pompous, propped up persons and institutions and exposed these same persons and institutions hollow core. We the people do have power and we no longer need believe or tolerate others telling us what is good for us or the death of kelly thomas was just a tragic accident

  9. July 15th 2011 article from OC register-http://totalbuzz.ocregister.com/2011/07/15/rep-loretta-sanchez-to-wed-saturday/57071/

    Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Santa Ana, will tie the knot with lobbyist, attorney and retired Army Col. Jack Einwechter in a small ceremony at private home in Santa Ana on Saturday. Press is not invited.

    Rumors of the couple’s engagement surfaced last year, with Roll Call referring to Einwechter as Sanchez’s “longtime beau.” Einwechter works for the firm of GreenbergTraurig, where his primary client as a lobbyist is the Stryker Corp., according to the Sunlight Foundation. The Stryker Corp. is a medical technology firm, and the Sunlight Foundation’s listing shows Einwechter as specializing in veterans issues.

  10. The Kelly T murder has sparked a widespread movement towards the criminals in the FPD and Fullertons political tyranny. Sanchez is is so arrogant and obvious. Does not care about Kelly Thomas and the issues he personificates the desperate state of the homeless in our society and extended social and moral issues. Her apathy is a by-product of her established position that she has her job for life. It’s typical life is good and FUCK the fools from where I came from. Let’s retire her, before she helps the FPD crush our hopes and survival.

  11. If you are voted in by a taxpayer to be a representative-then thats what you need to do, not be a bribed serial politician with no opinions who only speaks about shit that wont put you on the hot seat- who the HELLLLL voted this piece o useless waste of air back in office and why? you could have voted her out a few months back but NOOOO, so thats exactly what you get. and a big haha from her

  12. I doubt government agencies take Loretta Sanchez very seriously. She’s dumber than a pile of rocks and acts like a girl entering the 7th grade.

  13. Found by Google Search leading to her website:

    Loretta Sanchez District Office
    12397 Lewis Street, Ste. 101
    Garden Grove, CA 92840
    Phone: 714) 621-0102
    Fax: (714) 621-0401

    On her website, “she” notes that mail may be delayed up to two weeks due to postal service “screening”

  14. LeRoy Murray :
    Eliminate police union, that solves part of the problem.

    I agree. Eliminate collective bargaining for cops and you will get honest and decent people on the FPD.

    1. I totally agree with the critiques of the police unions, but I don’t think that single step will be sufficient to clean up law enforcement.

    2. I honestly believe that had The People prevented collective bargaining from being forced upon government, it is very possible that Kelly Thomas would be alive today.

      1. Again, unions are a big part of this. But the issue of police brutality is also about authoritarianism and the psychology of law enforcement. Plenty of despotic regimes out there with evil and savage police forces who are NOT unionized.

      2. I honestly believe that the responsibility of an adults actions are theirs and theirs alone but of course it doesnt hurt for them to know they were given a golden ticket to do whatever they want to people-without fear of consequences

        If self control and a caring heart were working in someone, Kelly would be alive today.

  15. fullerton lover :
    …this IS her business!
    •Congressional Human Rights Caucus
    •Congressional Labor and Working Families Caucus
    •Congressional LGBT Equality Caucus
    •Congressional Mental Health Caucus
    •Congressional Military Families Caucus
    •New Democrat Coalition•Congressional Caucus on Innovation and Entrepreneurship
    •Congressional Caucus on Korea
    •Congressional Caucus on Vietnam
    •Congressional Caucus on Women in the Military
    •Congressional Cyber-Security Caucus]
    Loretta Sanchez’s business IS to represent us and from what I found, Loretta Sanchez is supposed to be a member on Congressional Caucus committees that focus on Human Rights and Mental Health issues that were both are applicable here to not only Kelly Thomas and the 12 women that we know of who were sexually assaulted, there are also a ton of people who were Vietnamese, Hispanic, and Anglos alike whose civil rights were violated when they were detained unjustly, beaten beyond recognition, and then had false charges brought against them by the FPD to cover their misdeeds up.

    Loretta has no time for this bullshit. Get used to it.

  16. I have a Loretta Sanchez bobble head doll.
    Its wearing knee pads and its head is uncontollable, delightful and satisfying.
    Its almost wore out though.

  17. Yes, Loretta Sanchez has an almost child-like demeanor. She barely squeaked past van Tram in the last election, even with Bill along side. She keeps getting put on the powerful House committees.
    It is true you could throw a rock, literally, from where Kelly was killed to that district. Checked this more than a month ago because she needs to weigh in on this mess without question – unless she feels her constituents in Fullerton can just eat more of the silence treatment.

  18. Last time FFFF did a Loretta post we actually heard from her new husband.

    Details on how his previous marriage ended forthcoming.

  19. To wherever hole you crawled out of.

    I’m glad I don;t have to listen to her empty sympathy for things she cares nothing about.

    What she cares about is satisfying her own basic urges.

  20. plain ornery :
    I have a Loretta Sanchez bobble head doll.
    Its wearing knee pads and its head is uncontollable, delightful and satisfying.
    Its almost wore out though.

    Clinton has one on his dashboard.

  21. Contact the NOW Action Center

    Address:
    National Organization for Women
    1100 H Street NW, 3rd floor
    Washington, D.C. 20005

    Phone: (202) 628-8669 (628-8NOW)

    Fax: (202) 785-8576

    TTY: (202) 331-9002

    http://www.now.org/comments.html

    DO IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    DISGRACE HER

    Especially in national breast cancer awareness month..

    disgrace this miscreant non-human

    1. CONTACT N.O.W!
      CONTACT GLORIA ALRED!

      12 WOMEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY ONE COP, HES STILL EMPLOYED AND THEY HAVENT SAID CRAP!

  22. Peaches :
    Found by Google Search leading to her website:
    Loretta Sanchez District Office
    12397 Lewis Street, Ste. 101
    Garden Grove, CA 92840
    Phone: 714) 621-0102
    Fax: (714) 621-0401
    On her website, “she” notes that mail may be delayed up to two weeks due to postal service “screening”

    delayed by up to two weeks by laziness and general disregard FOR THE CITIZENS THAT PAY HER LAVISH LIFESTYLE

    1. The ridiculous part about mail screening for politicians is that none of these drones open their own mail. Interns and staffers are the “screeners” that have existed for hundreds of years now. Apparently that’s not enough so we have screening for the screeners.

  23. Vernon Dozier :
    The ridiculous part about mail screening for politicians is that none of these drones open their own mail. Interns and staffers are the “screeners” that have existed for hundreds of years now. Apparently that’s not enough so we have screening for the screeners.

    I will say it until I die.. Human Evolution has been hijacked

    Our brains are plenty large and overstimulated while our Hearts are usually disregarded and kept weak by the educational system

    ALL ONE OR NONE!

  24. Check her staff payroll. Where else could you find a 15 year old third grader making $55,000 a year. Probably a relative.

  25. ^^ /frown /sigh

    amazingly disgusting..

    and BET both her and the 13yr old miscreanttobe walk past homeless and poor everyday with not ONE CARE in their hearts

    so sad how humans like that get rewarded for LIES and false promises while not even being human

  26. We best be careful poking things at Loretta.
    She is now married to a Retired Colonel, the same rank as Colonel Jones the Mayor of Fullerton.
    The FPD be sending Officer Rincon out for yo’all after he’s done reprogramming the bobble head.

  27. Vernon Dozier :
    What?

    Dear Sir,

    Do you think human hearts are intelligent and can be nourished to respect each other as equals?

    Wars are caused and fought with brains.. not hearts

    Murders happen because of weak hearts

    If humanity had more intelligence in its Heart than its brain would we let people like her and others become OUR LEADERS

    Shock and Awe.. such a nice name for MURDER

    sure I am getting off the subject.. but the subject really should be about how we are all equal.. and that there is a universal set of reactions/repercussions for NOT using our Hearts

    My Heart is independent of my Brain but I do not always listen to it.. BUT.. when I do.. my life and the lives of those I come in contact with are nourished much more ..

    Brain is just a tool.. Heart is/was supposed to a guide

    If Loretta Sanchez used the strength of her Heart more than her greedy MEFIRST Brain.. she would never answer the way her handler said she did..

    Can you tell me the true value of teaching about History vs Love in our schools.. fuck history.. NOW is what matters.. and if we don’t use our Hearts to heal this shithole we have created then we ARE ALL DOOMED

    Care to look at how you have allowed your government to treat other countries.. look deep.. that destruction and pain is brain power.. not heart power

    1. Here are some quotes from two of my favorite historical figures,

      1. Lord Acton (1834-1902)

      “All power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

      “Great men are almost always bad men.”

      “There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”

      “The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections.”

      “Be not content with the best book; seek sidelights from the others; have no favourites.”

      “The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks.” Hmm… another Nostradamus?)

      “Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.”

      “The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.”

      “There is no error so monstrous that it fails to find defenders among the ablest men.”

      “At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition.”

      “Universal History is . . . not a burden on the memory but an illumination of the soul.”

      “There is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success.” (said of Oliver Cromwell)

      “The strong man with the dagger is followed by the weak man with the sponge.”

      “The science of politics is the one science that is deposited by the streams of history, like the grains of gold in the sand of a river; and the knowledge of the past, the record of truths revealed by experience, is eminently practical, as an instrument of action and a power that goes to making the future.”

      “And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that. All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

      “Save for the wild force of Nature, nothing moves in this world that is not Greek in its origin.”

      “Liberty is not the power of doing what we like, but the right of being able to do what we ought.”

      “Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality.”

      and then there is:

      2, George Santayana (1863-1952)

      “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to fulfill it”

      “Only the dead have seen the end of war.

      I love Wikipedia. (-:

    2. I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. The touchy, feely talk about hearts and love is a bit much. I’m guessing you’re a woman because I can’t relate to this as a guy.

  28. plain ornery :
    We best be careful poking things at Loretta.
    She is now married to a Retired Colonel, the same rank as Colonel Jones the Mayor of Fullerton.
    The FPD be sending Officer Rincon out for yo’all after he’s done reprogramming the bobble head.

    Military? just a device of evil.. plain and simple

    tell me the last justified mass murder .. I mean last justified WAR..

  29. fullerton lover :
    Without love we are nothing.

    “The first peace, which is the most important,
    is that which comes within the souls of people
    when they realize their relationship, their oneness,
    with the universe and all its powers,
    and when they realize that at the center of the universe
    dwells Wakan-Taka (the Great Spirit)
    and that this center is really everywhere,
    it is within each of us.
    This is the real peace, and the others are but reflections of this.
    The second peace is that which is made between two individuals,
    and the third is that which is made between two nations.
    But above all you should understand that
    there can never be peace between nations
    until there is known that true peace,
    which, as I have often said,
    is within the souls of men.
    ~Black Elk, Oglala Sioux & Spiritual Leader (1863 – 1950)

  30. I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger still has his Loretta bobble head or did he pass it to the new Colonel …just wondering..you know in due time it could become a family heirloom !!

  31. If I am not mistaken, the new district lines were drawn and Ms. Looo retta is not in Fullerton any longer, however she is supposed to deal with her “public” here in Fullerton until she is re-elected in her new district. BTW, Loretta is Sharons part time job in the Summer months.

  32. “Where love rules. there is no will to power,and where power predominates,love is lacking.The one is the shadow of the other”
    Carl Jung

    1. translation:

      Where people do the right thing even when it’s hard and they don’t want to.

      LOVE = Dragging your butt out of bed because your child has a sporting event at 7:00 a.m. on Sunday morning, and you take them there instead of wrapping them up in a burlap bag, dropping them into the nearest river, then going back to bed. (-:

  33. Thanks Peaches for the formal/proper name; cranial rectal inversion.
    I suffer from an occasional short term case of dementia, fortunately its not severe enough yet for me to get urges to become a politician.

  34. Anonymous :
    Geez…read the U.S. Constitution. You can’t recall a Member of Congress.

    Don’t read much?
    California is on of 18 states that makes this a reality.

    1. I think you’re confusing a member senator of the State Assembly with a Federal member of the House of Representatives.

  35. If my memory is near, didn’t Sanchez refuse to use her married name in public and on the voters ballot with the claim that the name Sanchez would get her more Hispanic votes than her married name.
    I thought it was pretty two-faced and deceptive at the time.

    1. Thats inventive. Just the kind of quality you should look for in a public servant.

      …and you want them to be a devious person, but only on your behalf. (-:

  36. Vernon Dozier :
    I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. The touchy, feely talk about hearts and love is a bit much. I’m guessing you’re a woman because I can’t relate to this as a guy.

    and from here on out I will ignore your sexist weakhearted drivel..

    sad.. and at one time I thought you were worth reading.. now I see you are heartless and cowardly to imagine only females are supposed to contain hearts..

    apologize to your mirror tomorrow morning

    1. I was just stating for the record that women have a way of expressing themselves that men don’t understand. The emotional figures of speech are maximum overload for a man’s brain. And just so we’re clear, I don’t have any hatred towards you or women in general.

  37. Everbody wants to be a leader but nobody wants to be a lead…well unless they have something to benefit.

    1. or unless they happen to really want to do good for others and their community because it’s their way of giving back.

      (Do not read any approval for the members of the current city council being recalled.)

      (Damn!. I hate having to add these disclaimers.) (-:

      1. Anyone who “wants to give back” but has no idea how other than to show up at a council meeting a couple times a month has no business representing anybody.

        Fullerton has been mis-ruled by these types of people forever. And that’s why we have police murders and sexual assaults.

  38. plain ornery got it right! Ms. Sanchez owned a rental in the area where B52 Bob Dornan was the congressman. He was some kinda work of art in that in a 40% latino district, he really did nothing for them. So in comes Sanchez using her maiden name and she had this rental in G Grove. She actually lived using her husbands Anglo name in – Palos Verdes!
    The only reason she upholds women’s rights in Viet Nam is there is a 20% Vietnamese group in her district and she was running this past time against a vietnamese republican. Otherwise, the only liberal cause she is for is called REELECTION!
    So if you think Sanchez will take up the Kelly cause, I sincerely doubt it.

    1. I would think it depends on how much grief she receives from her constituients regarding the Kelly case.

      If everyone she meets gives her a piece of their minds when they meet her, then I’ll bet it won’t take long for it to get to the top of her agenda.

      It’s called expressing an agenda. She works for those in her district. If she gets an earful everytime, then she’ll grab the opportunity to do right.

      Anyone who wants to bet a dollar on that meet me in Vegas in two weeks. Don’t want to get arrested for illegal wagering in Fullerton. (-:

  39. boldsoul :
    This campaign for justice is clearly starting to go off the rails.

    She is paid by all citizens of Fullerton, CA.. do you really think Fullerton Police do not enter her jurisdiction?

    Fullerton Police Officers are murderers.. FOUR Murderers are still on payroll and cruising your streets and those of her constituents …

    Clarify for us how the murder of Kelly Thomas and bringing to justice those responsible for it are not her responsibility?

  40. Arguing over the performance of Loretta Sanchez, Ed Royce, or any other buffoon in Congress is a waste of time. These people are completely useless… I don’t know why they bother having a local office.

    Ed Royce’s website is a perfect example. Under “Constituent Services” you’ll be happy to know that Ed can help process your flag request, give your kid an internship, arrange a tour of the capitol building in Washington, “host” a woman’s conference at CSUF, or “host” a job fair in Buena Park.

  41. Someone had conversation with a woman, in the parking lot of grocery store, who stated they she work for Loretta Sanchez and now you all want to recall her? Why not not try and get a comment from the congress woman herself? This whole thing is starting to sound like giant power grab and you are using Kelly Thomas as leverage to remake the political landscape to your liking. Loretta Sanchez works hard and does good for lots of people in our county and country. I gather from the tone of comments around here that many of you have have a big problem with multiculturalism in our society? Only then would the “senorita” be in the wrong for defending Vietnamese women.

    1. There are several points worth responding to here:

      Why do we need to request a comment from the Congresswoman? Why is she not commenting on it herself? That is the main question.

      The “giant power grab” could only seem like that to a politician or someone who thinks like one – someone whose main goal is to perpetuate the status quo partisanship while seeing their side stay in office.

      What you are missing is that we are not politicians. We are seriously pissed off citizens. I haven’t heard Sanchez say a damn thing about the state of law enforcement here in the communities that she serves. Given her silence and lack of leadership on this issue, I have every right to be dissappointed with her and to demand new and better representation. And by the way, I don’t remember voting for a lot of Republicans so far in my life, but that doesn’t mean purportedly liberal Democrats get a pass, ever.

      Personally, I enjoy multiculturalism in our society every single day. This is not about race or culture and anybody making it about that can go fuck themselves. The protesters are of all races and classes as are those who read this blog. Wanting honest, responsible, dedicated public servants instead of a bunch of corrupt and immoral self-serving scumbags is not a position that can be monopolized by people of any religous, political, cultural, racial, sexual or other orientation.

      In other words, we are all in this together, we will demand much, much better from ALL of our politicians, and either stand with us or get out of our way. But don’t attack people for being Republican or racist because they raise doubts about a Democratic partially-Hispanic Congresswoman.

      1. Have you put together a deligation and made an appointment to meet and talk with the Congresswoman?

        It’s not hard. I had some problems with a hospital overcharging me, made an appointment with my Congresswoman, met her aid as she was busy, but was quite surprised and pleased when I got a response a few days later that they had contacted the hospital I was dealing with. The hospital contacted me later that day, and lo and behold, we were able to settle an issue I had been working on for over four months.

        I thaink in California it’s called ‘networking’ (-:

    2. Thanks for completely missing the point and for the diversion.

      It’s very clear that Sanchez knows what’s going on and is too scared to say “boo.”

      Like most politicians Loretta is great when it comes to blathering platitudes about generalities and abstractions.

      Not so good when it comes to standing up for anything other than promoting her pathetic career.

  42. boldsoul :
    Someone had conversation with a woman, in the parking lot of grocery store, who stated they she work for Loretta Sanchez and now you all want to recall her? Why not not try and get a comment from the congress woman herself? This whole thing is starting to sound like giant power grab and you are using Kelly Thomas as leverage to remake the political landscape to your liking. Loretta Sanchez works hard and does good for lots of people in our county and country. I gather from the tone of comments around here that many of you have have a big problem with multiculturalism in our society? Only then would the “senorita” be in the wrong for defending Vietnamese women.

    wtf are you talking about

    WHAT IS HER NAME

    loretta Einwechter??

    Sanchez?

    oh..

    right

    she is a politician.. only out for herself

    calling her Vietnamese counterpart ANTI IMMIGRANT.. wow..

    two weeks delay for her responses is UNACCEPTABLE no matter what color creed nationality she is

    BOLD.. YOU CALL for us.. FIND OUT

    PLEASE??

    PLEASE?

  43. The experts at forcing a reaction from congressmen such as Lorretta Sanchez and Ed Royce are John and Ken. Where are john and Ken when you need them?

    Oh yeah, they are going to be in Fullerton on Wednesday, right? I wonder if I could get them to make a 15 minute stop at the Fullerton Observer office on the way in to talk to Sharon?

    1. yes, that would be a good idea. sharon would talk to them about her “optimism” paintings, her lucrative career as an artist and as editor of a renouned newspaper, the fullerton Observer. OOps, my memory has been jarred. I remember sharon raised her kids in an abandoned school bus in northern california and during one christmas she arrived at 1031 n richman avenue loaded up along with her two kids with lice

        1. Actually, I thought they might talk about her problems view John and Ken as racist. Didn’t she have that bus in Mexico for awhile, or am I mixing stories?

  44. Anonymous :

    boldsoul :
    Someone had conversation with a woman, in the parking lot of grocery store, who stated they she work for Loretta Sanchez and now you all want to recall her? Why not not try and get a comment from the congress woman herself? This whole thing is starting to sound like giant power grab and you are using Kelly Thomas as leverage to remake the political landscape to your liking. Loretta Sanchez works hard and does good for lots of people in our county and country. I gather from the tone of comments around here that many of you have have a big problem with multiculturalism in our society? Only then would the “senorita” be in the wrong for defending Vietnamese women.

    wtf are you talking about
    WHAT IS HER NAME
    loretta Einwechter??
    Sanchez?
    oh..
    right
    she is a politician.. only out for herself
    calling her Vietnamese counterpart ANTI IMMIGRANT.. wow..
    two weeks delay for her responses is UNACCEPTABLE no matter what color creed nationality she is
    BOLD.. YOU CALL for us.. FIND OUT
    PLEASE??
    PLEASE?

    I WILL be here tomorrow and every day to see if you have replied with your findings after you have called her offices to find out ..

    thank you in advance

  45. We must remember that Loretta Sanchez is a sham that was helped by another sham Clerk-Recorder Tom Daly to get in office. When have you seen Tom Daly take a stand on anything. He goes around saying that he built the Disneland Resort single handedly. Like thats something to brag about. Loretta like Daly will never have a true stand specially if it involves controversy or if it takes leadership to do so. SO please don’t expecte much from this oreo cookie congresswoman and man in skirts Daly. And just for the record, I can care less about the women in Vietnam. There are homeless women and children in Fullerton and Orange County. Loretta should be worried about the women she can actually help no the ones she cant help 8000 miles away.

  46. It’s a crack-up that Loretta Sanchez has authored legislation to fight sexual harassment and abuse against women in the military yet wants to stay out of a situation that involves a Fullerton cop in her district who has been fingered for groping and sexually harassing female arrestees in the back of his patrol car and was recently admonished by a Federal Judge who refuse to dismiss a related lawsuit. This should make you stand up and take note of exactly how powerful the police unions are in this country. Sanchez must be tucked away in somebody’s hip pocket. Politics have become incredibly sleazy and corrupted on the homefront. Like a web of sin. This is normally what happens before empires fall. Read history.

    1. Actually, thats how empires are built.

      In ancient China members of the bureaucracy paid the higher government offical to get their jobs, and kept on paying.

      They would generate an income through taxes for the government and keep a portion for themselves as recompense. (-:

      Not so different from today except that now it’s all done under the table.

      1. maybe it worked for China, not so for Japan. Japan’s shogunate arose when the corruption of the Chrysanthemum Throne(Japan’s emperor) decayed into a useless appendage. with the loss of a centralized government, local thugs, the one with most weapons, arose to power during this power vacuum. this also occurred when the roman empire dissolved and the era of feudalism arose headed by the usual suspects, those who governed with force and intimidation. jefferson had the best idea, power should be equally dispersed amongst all people resulting in checking the excessive power occurring in one sector or group’s hands

  47. Vernon Dozier,
    I whole heartly agree with you. Ed the penguin and Loretta bobble head need to go as well as Sharon Quack-Silva.
    Loretta Sanchez has disavowed any Fullerton relationship and Ed Royce moved his office out of town.
    Past City managers were administrators and adjuvants for a cabal that used them to protect the DTF night time business.
    I wince every time that I hear the Mayor ask for the staff recommendation during an open City Council meeting.
    Furthermore, all city business , including the Redevelopment Agency, is required to be open to the public with the exception of personnel matters.
    It is time to remove the cloak of secrecy and let the sun shine on Fullerton.

  48. Loretta and her even more worthless sister Linda Sanchez need to be voted OUT of office and will be when the Republicans can muster up someone to challenge her who isn’t completely batshit crazy. Loretta only stands up for the people who give her money WLA Jews.

    1. Don’t care for Jews, do you?

      Care to round out the list with others you hate so we can avoid mentioning them in conversations?

  49. Anonymous :

    Anonymous :

    boldsoul :
    Someone had conversation with a woman, in the parking lot of grocery store, who stated they she work for Loretta Sanchez and now you all want to recall her? Why not not try and get a comment from the congress woman herself? This whole thing is starting to sound like giant power grab and you are using Kelly Thomas as leverage to remake the political landscape to your liking. Loretta Sanchez works hard and does good for lots of people in our county and country. I gather from the tone of comments around here that many of you have have a big problem with multiculturalism in our society? Only then would the “senorita” be in the wrong for defending Vietnamese women.

    wtf are you talking about
    WHAT IS HER NAME
    loretta Einwechter??
    Sanchez?
    oh..
    right
    she is a politician.. only out for herself
    calling her Vietnamese counterpart ANTI IMMIGRANT.. wow..
    two weeks delay for her responses is UNACCEPTABLE no matter what color creed nationality she is
    BOLD.. YOU CALL for us.. FIND OUT
    PLEASE??
    PLEASE?

    I WILL be here tomorrow and every day to see if you have replied with your findings after you have called her offices to find out ..
    thank you in advance

    WAIT.. unless your soul is only BOLD when it types on a keyboard? *shrug*

  50. Thin Blue got it right. Everyone wants to be a leader and no one wants to lead, Just like Captain Hamilton at FPD.

    He is all about the name and title and adulation of being “Chief” but he does not want to touch anything that may taint his position, such as not backing his guys. Hamilton is a sham. He is not interested in leading the officers of FPD, only using his power to abuse and punish them before they are guilty of anything.

    Whatever happened to Kelly M. the Officer who stole an Ipad at the airport in Florida? Where is she? Oh Yeah, home with pay!!!!!
    Where is the Officer who sexually abused women in the city owned vehicle? a police unit! And while on probation, no less!

    Hamilton you are a snake a cheat, a loser, a “has been” who wants to get the top cop job at the expense of your men, the ones you are supposed to protect and stand behind when in trouble. Hopefully Felz will recognize your shortcomings and inadequacies before a big mistake is made.

    Get rid of Hamilton. Get rid of Sharon Quack and take Sanchez with you.

  51. Hey there Hog Wild
    How about taking Felz for a ride on your Harley out to Glamis and leaving his ass there with them FPD trail bikes that are missing from inventory.

  52. what do those fat fucks need trail bikes for?
    goes to show the level of corruption, or maybe hee haw plans on doing away with paved road so it can be a true wild wild west.

  53. What is it with the cesspool of blundering idiot feminist women that get elected to office? As I said earlier, I’m not sexist toward women. I just believe that the women we elect are some of the absolute worst this country has to offer. Nancy Pelosi anyone? The Sanchez sisters? Maxine Waters, Janice Hahn, the list goes on and on…

    I’m fed up with those who run and/or get elected solely for the purpose of advancing their own personal causes – i.e. women’s rights, minority rights, abortion, education, labor unions. Apathy immediately sets in when the subject changes to taxes, deficits, wars, military spending, and any civil rights or constitutional issues UNLESS it involves themselves or their constituents. I’ve also noticed that elected women are generally indifferent toward government corruption and abuses of power.

    This is precisely how I see the Sanchez sisters. Loretta would have personally kicked Ramos and Cicinelli’s asses the day after Kelly Thomas died – if and only if – Kelly had been a Hispanic woman like her.

    A white male? Totally irrelevant and not worth her time.

      1. We’re not texting, here.

        How about spelling out the words so my brain doesn’t have to work harder than it wants to. (-:

  54. Decent American :
    Loretta and her even more worthless sister Linda Sanchez need to be voted OUT of office and will be when the Republicans can muster up someone to challenge her who isn’t completely batshit crazy. Loretta only stands up for the people who give her money WLA Jews.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte#Assassination

    when you look at the political progression of the people that murdered this man above … you may have some fear of them

    Israeli Terrorists were assimilated into the military ranks.. not prosecuted.. then they became presidents/Premieres.. etc

    Yitzhak Shamir was one of his murderers

    but.. fwiw.. Evil has no culture or race..

    Evil grows if good is being weak

  55. Jeffrey Castaline :
    Have you put together a deligation and made an appointment to meet and talk with the Congresswoman?
    It’s not hard. I had some problems with a hospital overcharging me, made an appointment with my Congresswoman, met her aid as she was busy, but was quite surprised and pleased when I got a response a few days later that they had contacted the hospital I was dealing with. The hospital contacted me later that day, and lo and behold, we were able to settle an issue I had been working on for over four months.
    I thaink in California it’s called ‘networking’ (-:

    I think the lack of powerful people all over the USA not speaking out about the cowardly DA and the abuse of Fullerton citizens by FPD and City Council is defeaning

    Why should someone have to ask her to speak out about Killer Cops.. just like Vernon said..

    If Kelly was a Hispanic woman she would race to get her name into the hat of people that cared

    but he was just a dirty bum to her and most of the people in law enforcement.. they don’t have hearts only “Popularityometers”

  56. A thought I have is that Loretta take a public stand on the turmoil that is growing in Fullerton.
    Not for nothing, the KELLY THOMAS execution and cover-up goes deep and wide in our corrupt police and city council. Loretta can’t be bothered to comment on the local issues developing in her voter base. The foreign and the national press show more concern the abuses in Fullerton than Loretta. LORETTA DO SOMETHING DECENT FOR ONCE. IF NEEDED ASK YOUR HUSBAND TO SPEAK UP FOR YOU.

  57. The two sisters are only in politics to show off! When I was in the academy there was this x-army person who use show us his private part as females we complained to the Tac Staff and they said we were making this stuff up. Then one afterrnoon the Tac Staff targeted us. He went on to become a police office but made a fatal mistake. He showed his private part to a member of the school faculty. He was finally fired! He worked at another local PD close to Fullerton.
    I called both the sisters and they refused to help us. The Tac Staff backed the exposed and the sisters along with everyone that was moonlighting at the Academy from Fullerton. The corruption has been going on for the last 15 years and got worse has they got more power. The Tac Staff would joke with the recruits about what they did the night before. Such as drinking, driving drunk and other things not are not mentionable on the internet. The questions and answers to all the test were stolen from the staff and they knew about it and did nothing. I lost so much respect for anyone in LE.

  58. Sunshine :
    The two sisters are only in politics to show off! When I was in the academy there was this x-army person who use show us his private part as females we complained to the Tac Staff and they said we were making this stuff up. Then one afterrnoon the Tac Staff targeted us. He went on to become a police office but made a fatal mistake. He showed his private part to a member of the school faculty. He was finally fired! He worked at another local PD close to Fullerton.
    I called both the sisters and they refused to help us. The Tac Staff backed the exposed and the sisters along with everyone that was moonlighting at the Academy from Fullerton. The corruption has been going on for the last 15 years and got worse has they got more power. The Tac Staff would joke with the recruits about what they did the night before. Such as drinking, driving drunk and other things not are not mentionable on the internet. The questions and answers to all the test were stolen from the staff and they knew about it and did nothing. I lost so much respect for anyone in LE.

    What else is new?

  59. Hog Wild :
    Thin Blue got it right. Everyone wants to be a leader and no one wants to lead, Just like Captain Hamilton at FPD.
    He is all about the name and title and adulation of being “Chief” but he does not want to touch anything that may taint his position, such as not backing his guys. Hamilton is a sham. He is not interested in leading the officers of FPD, only using his power to abuse and punish them before they are guilty of anything.
    Whatever happened to Kelly M. the Officer who stole an Ipad at the airport in Florida? Where is she? Oh Yeah, home with pay!!!!!
    Where is the Officer who sexually abused women in the city owned vehicle? a police unit! And while on probation, no less!
    Hamilton you are a snake a cheat, a loser, a “has been” who wants to get the top cop job at the expense of your men, the ones you are supposed to protect and stand behind when in trouble. Hopefully Felz will recognize your shortcomings and inadequacies before a big mistake is made.
    Get rid of Hamilton. Get rid of Sharon Quack and take Sanchez with you.

    He is here to cover-up this bull shit. And with the support of the DAs office he will. Keep out of Fullerton the animal cops are loose on the streets like Dodge city.

  60. Does anyone know what this means
    “Customary Acquiescence?” In plain English. Please! I am asking because someone I know said they would be acquitted based on this….

  61. Jt :
    Here’s a better idea. Racists of any kind get off FFFF.

    nice try buddy.. there is no race other than Human

    any crimes against humans need to be perceived the same no matter what you think of the race

    I want to ask you if you hold ANY BIASES based on what you call race

    1. I have no idea what you are talking about. Once in a while I see posts on FFFF blaming Jews or other minorities for various social ills. I am saying we have no need for any of that. If you agree, then we agree. If you don’t, go fuck yourself.

      1. If you don’t @@@@@@@@@@@@@!

        That kind of statement effectively closes anymore meaningful dialogue.

        No?

        1. Yes. There is little meaningful dialogue to be had with racists, and talking about race hear distracts us from our primary goals.

        1. Hey! STAND UP!!

          …and I think you should be as tolerant as you want others to be.

          I was born to a Catholic family, placed in a Christian adoption agency, and adopted by a Jewish family who loved and raised me. I had my Bar Mitzvah when I was 13, and was told by my Rabbi, “You are now a man. Make your own decisions.” That was the last day I attended services at the temple. Not what he expected, I think. (-: )

          I’m now a coverted Buddhist and happier than I have ever been in my life. (Acutally, I am lapst Buddhist. I don’t go to services. Can’t stand the organized part of any religion. If I need to commune with the Buddha I have my ways.##

          I pay my dues to the temple and help out with organizations and events, but there’s still too much raw American in me. Obnoxious, insensitive and mentally derranged people like you set me off, and not in a good way.

          You’re the kind of person who wants it all for themself at the expense of everyone else. What are you, a Republican? (Cancel that. It’s not fair to Republicans to be compared to you.)

          I’m neither pro-Isreal, nor am I an anti-semite.

          I’m a registered Libertarian and live by the philosophy, “Live and let live as long as you do no harm to others.”, however, I’ll bomb your a** into hell if you hurt others. No hesitation there.

          Japanese Buddhist monks in the 12th thru 18th Centuries were the most feared fighters in the Orient, even over Samurai. Only a few are real pacifists.

          Take your hate mongering to the next KKK meeting you can find. Good conversation, good times, equivalent I.Q.’s, and I’m sure you’ll have all the opportunities you want to express yourself physically.

          *Sheesh” At least learn to spell and type, and your mouth, ewwwwww!!!

          (To anyone who reads my posts, I’m putting it all out there. The facts and documentation for everything I post are in the public record.)

          Take the first word of the 4th line of the your post #144, and the first three letters of the first word in the first line and have a good day.

          And so no one feels left out, here’s a little something from Islam. (-:

          ## Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam

          Quatrain XII in his 5th edition:[2]

          “A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
          A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread–and Thou
          Beside me singing in the Wilderness–
          Oh, Wilderness were Paradise enow!”

          Now thats Buddhist nirvana. (-:

          Go figure.

          1. HEY JETHRO U MUS HAVBEN ONE UGLY BABY FOR A CATHOLIC FAMILY TO DROP YERS ASS OFF @ FIRE TRUCK STOP WELL NAMASTE TOO YE

        2. I don’t believe that. Of course one could be critical of Israel and not be anti-Semitic. I was responding to a post that said something about Loretta Sanchez only trying to please wealthy Jews.

          We can talk about Israel or 10 million other things but what is the point. Let’s focus on the local.

          1. of course, Israel is the chosen holy place, everyone else go to hell

            if your CRITICAL of israel your a member of the kkk.
            whos the real bigot?
            1down 9,000,000 to go

  62. http://wonkette.com/221348/loretta-sanchezs-christmas-card

    Sanchez- is an idiot- she is not only socially retarded, she is known as the whore on the hill….watch the last state of the union with G Bush….I went to a town meeting with Whore bag- and she said…I will put Bush to task re his handling of the war- So Im watching- What does she do? She runs from her chair- and kisses G Bush…..I was stunned- I figured this is like the mafia movies she kisses him and he is on his way out…..she gushed like a12year old……she is an idiot. BUt enjoy PETTING THE KITTY>>>ON HER CROTCH

  63. The idea to approach Loretta Sanchez about the Kelly Thomas killing is a good one. She can request that the FBI stick with this case through its completion. Any other ideas? Mark them down. Yes, Loretta is a twit, but she is in office for now and so her resources and sources should be utilized.

  64. Oh and Ed Royce? He is an ex Police Chief so I expect platitudes from someone in his office who writes well but says nothing. Ed is another waste who has not had anyone of note run against him ever. In a gerrymandered district, Ed has a 2-1 Republican majority so the dems run tokens against him and spend almost no money. Thus Ed gets a free pass every 2 years from the Democratic party “strategists”.

  65. Paul,

    Your idea is a good one. Everyone should petition Loretta Sanchez’s office regarding Kelly Thomas. Make her force the FBI to take charge of the case. It is painfully clear that the D.A. will not prosecute all 6, so our only resolve, is to force a political solution.

  66. Jt :
    I have no idea what you are talking about. Once in a while I see posts on FFFF blaming Jews or other minorities for various social ills. I am saying we have no need for any of that. If you agree, then we agree. If you don’t, go fuck yourself.

    I do like the idea of fucking myself if it gets me off

    Anyhow.. I agree that we only have ourselves to blame for atrocities committed by Israeils against Palestinians or Anglos against Blacks etc..

    Look at how long Anglos kept blacks as slaves.. .

    so if we want to talk about racial issues I guess we can.. Just like with Kelly Thomas.. these cops and worthless politicians put him a subgroup called

    filthy homeless mentally ill etc

    From a book called A Course In Miracles

    “The sicknesses of our brothers and sisters are our sicknesses too”

    none are blameless but some are more guilty than others

    If I need to fuck myself… please let me know

    1. If you cannot communicate your ideas clearly to others don’t be surprised when they don’t understand what you are trying to say.

  67. Citizen M :
    http://wonkette.com/221348/loretta-sanchezs-christmas-card
    Sanchez- is an idiot- she is not only socially retarded, she is known as the whore on the hill….watch the last state of the union with G Bush….I went to a town meeting with Whore bag- and she said…I will put Bush to task re his handling of the war- So Im watching- What does she do? She runs from her chair- and kisses G Bush…..I was stunned- I figured this is like the mafia movies she kisses him and he is on his way out…..she gushed like a12year old……she is an idiot. BUt enjoy PETTING THE KITTY>>>ON HER CROTCH

    I believe this card is real.. and sad.. that she would whore herself and yet claim to be for womens rights.. Women are abused constantly by superiors due to sexuality…

  68. After reading this tread I think what most people are missing is that Loretta had taking a position. She is in support of the cops. Loretta likes her job. The band of broters has every elected political person bought and paid for. Does any find it funny that our wonderful sherriff has endorsed both Loretta and Royce. Way to stand for the common man. Every city officail stands with the previous elected. For some reason we trust cops and we believe their endorsement is gold. That’s the problem with our system it follows money and allows for lazy voting and corruption at every level.

  69. Yep, no shocker here. Politicians from all sides are self serving wastes of oxygen. I’d guess some go in with noble aspirations to make a difference, like some of those “good” cops we hear about, but all get dirty and come out dirty … if they ever come out at all. The term “public servant” amounts to nothing more than false advertising in this day and age. I fear it will take something a lot uglier than the Kelly Thomas murder to fix this broken system.

  70. TheFullertonWatcher :
    After reading this tread I think what most people are missing is that Loretta had taking a position. She is in support of the cops. Loretta likes her job. The band of broters has every elected political person bought and paid for. Does any find it funny that our wonderful sherriff has endorsed both Loretta and Royce. Way to stand for the common man. Every city officail stands with the previous elected. For some reason we trust cops and we believe their endorsement is gold. That’s the problem with our system it follows money and allows for lazy voting and corruption at every level.

    What else is new?

  71. Just yesterday I was talking with an old school friend of mine who is married to the chief of police of a big city in the Inland Empire. I met him on a couple of different off-duty occassions and apparently he is a stand-up guy. The mayor of this city was completely against him becoming chief of police because he is NOT the ‘roll over’ type to do and say whatever they tell him. I asked if he would be interested in becoming Fullerton’s chief of police and she said his reply was, “I don’t want to get involved.” She also stated that his postition has ‘got to his head’ at home.
    Is there any way to keep a good LEO on the GOOD?

  72. When so much vulgarity is used in trying to get a point across to the rest of us, I for one don’t bother to read any further.

    If you have to use that kind of language to talk, maybe you shouldn’t talk or blog.

    “It is better to let people think you are a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!”

  73. Wrong Guy – You are absolutely correct. Many of the current quality chiefs see no merit in tackling a mess like Fullerton PD. I never would have believed it myself but same holds true with Superintendents of Schools. The good ones avoid districts with major problems because they are career limiting. So who gets the jobs? The lesser quality, easily bent types. I have seen this first hand.

  74. van get it da artiste :where the welfare checks stretch farther?

    I don’t know. Actually, in those days I was concentrating on starting a business and getting my wife and stepkids off of welfare. I didn’t see much of Sharon until she took over the Fullerton Observer.

    Sharon graduated Sunny Hills high in 1967, I think. Then until 1970 were the real crazy years of the social revolution. Many teenagers chose convoluted paths. I view this all as a part of history, even as it touched my family. Are we to be glad when burned out hippies return towards the mainstream, or are they always condemned for the alternative lifestyles of their youth?

    I don’t expect you to like my family members nor approve of what they did or do. But there seems to be an extra quality here. The way you approach the Kennedies seems similar to the way some cops approach Kelly Thomas. They want to write him off as worthless as a human being. They want to depreciate his family because they could not make him normal. They want to use incidents from 15 years ago to justify beating him to death this year.

    Just saying.

  75. Steve, there is no malice intended on my part; that is your accusation against me. It is just sport for me to see your family’s frequently and for a long time used escape hatch(people only dislike the Kennedys due to their politics, lifestyle, uncle ralph’s stance on ? , insert one yourself) be removed to show it has everything to do with character, personal ethics (remember Margo) not externals. so don’t worry, I’m having fun watching the kennedy’s/Brows(?) unravel themselves on the internet.

  76. If you have no malice, good. Certainly the Brows are not unraveling here and I do not think the Kennedies are either. Certainly we all reach the limits of our abilities and that becomes more pronounced as we age.

    Certianly I remember Margo. I was 16 and she was 15, and we were sitting on the roof painting the house at 1031 talking about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I met her lastly several months ago at Nat’s funeral and met her children for the first time.

    You do realize that Margo is an adopted member of the family, which is why I did not meet her until I was 16. My mother was a liberal in the communtiy, but a hard-nosed conservative when it come to how she expected her children to act. One of the ways she worked our her liberalisim was by working at Florence-Crittedon. Nat worked our her similar liberalism in her own home.

    I did not know how Margo became a member of the family until three years ago, when Nat told me the story. If you think that Margo defines the lack of character of the Kennedy family, I can state with certainty that it is the opposite, Margo’s circumstance represents the integrity of the Kennedy family.

    I am not going to get more personal here. I am easy to find if you want to know. The rules are you have to let me know who you are as I have been free to let you know who I am. I also have to be able to discern that you really want knowledge and are not simply out for fodder to destroy.

  77. It wasn’t margo who lacked character, I refer to her treatment while in foster care at 1031 n richman avenue fullerton. “My mother was a liberal in the communtiy, but a hard-nosed conservative when it come to how she expected her children to act. One of the ways she worked our her liberalisim was by working at Florence-Crittedon. Nat worked our her similar liberalism in her own home.” irony.
    I give you credit for having the courage to ask hard questions. it is out of character for the kennedy’s of fullerton

  78. STAND UP :of course, Israel is the chosen holy place, everyone else go to hell
    if your CRITICAL of israel your a member of the kkk.whos the real bigot?1down 9,000,000 to go

    Dyslexia must really suck.
    Oh, and this is FFFF. What you are looking for is http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
    Enjoy, you’ll fit in nicely there.

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