Fullerton: Vote Kiger and Whitaker


Written by Cynthia Ward

Fullerton Councilman Travis Kiger has a new campaign video worth watching, which shows him to be the non-politician everyday guy he really is. He is running to hold the seat gained after the recall  of Council members Jones, Bankhead, and McKinley. 66% of the vote put Kiger into the seat of Dick Jones, whose term ended months later, and Travis  now needs to run as the incumbent to remain on the Council. I do not think he is going to have a problem with challengers, his is an easy win.

The other easy seat is incumbent Mayor Pro Tem Bruce Whitaker, who was elected to City Council in 2010, and was the only Fullerton leader to take an immediate role in trying to get information about the Kelly Thomas beating. His efforts were blocked at every turn by staff in what can only be called insubordination. Whitaker is extremely well liked, and together with his formidable partnership with wife Linda, the couple is a fixture in Fullerton.

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  1. #1 by R.D. on November 6, 2012

    Add Levinson and it’s a great day for Fullerton.

    • #2 by buttonh00k on November 6, 2012

      Second that motion.

      • #3 by Tracey on November 6, 2012

        Third!

        • #4 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

          DID (VOTE)

          • #5 by Simmons on November 7, 2012

            BRUCE WHITAKER 12,211 14.0%
            JENNIFER FITZGERALD 12,084 13.8%
            TRAVIS KIGER 10,235 11.7%
            JAN M. FLORY 10,159 11.6%
            RICK ALVAREZ 8,748 10.0%
            JANE RANDS 6,931 7.9%
            DON BANKHEAD 5,885 6.7%
            KITTY JARAMILLO 5,773 6.6%
            BARRY LEVINSON 5,757 6.6%
            BRIAN BARTHOLOMEW 4,964 5.7%
            MATTHEW HAKIM 3,193 3.7%
            ROBERTA REID 1,436 1.6%

            • #6 by Simmons on November 9, 2012

              What’s Left to Count by District

              District: Fullerton

              Vote-by-Mails left: 4,626

              Provisionals left: 3,608

              Total left: 8,234

              Last updated: November 8, 2012 5:30 PM

              http://www.ocvote.com/results/whats-left-to-count/left-by-district-results/

              Darn, the butt-clowns can still win. You know the unions paid people to mail in votes.

              When are the final results to be made public?

  2. #7 by Fred Alcocer on November 6, 2012

    Not Kiger. Bad choice. Bruce, Barry, Rands. Winners.

  3. #8 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 6, 2012

    Nice theft of Tom Petty’s music on that campaign video.

    Theft is theft, Kyger.

    • #9 by Fred Alcazar on November 6, 2012

      Theft. You mean like Mejia? Like Major? Like April Baughman?

      Hahaha. Lol!

      • #10 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

        Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. Glad they all got arrested.

    • #11 by Fullerton Lover on November 6, 2012

      And a police union troll, is a police union troll, Cold Chillin’ Cops Balls.

    • #12 by CHP on November 6, 2012

      Kiger acts like he’s above the law. No front license plate or mud flaps on that Jeep both violations of the vehicle code. Just the tip of the law breaking iceberg I suspect.

      • #13 by BINGO on November 6, 2012

        He is smug isn’t he?

      • #14 by ElaineP on November 7, 2012

        CHP: In Fullerton this used to be grounds for torture and execution.

      • #15 by I SPY on November 7, 2012

        CHP another Spiteful cop union troll.

      • #16 by Tuco Ramirez on November 7, 2012

        CHP, that is your dream! You are really FPD, ten rungs below CHP. But keep trying!!

      • #17 by Mark Fuhrman on November 7, 2012

        Only a rectal felch would point out the front plate and the mud flaps. Nice work, Trooper.

      • #18 by E-TICKET on November 7, 2012

        And destroying evidence, excessive force under color, filing false medical disability claims, murder are what – misdemeanors – all subject to harsh slaps on the wrists with cooked spaghetti noodle. It’s in the code book – really.

      • #19 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

        CHP :
        Kiger acts like he’s above the law.

        Actually, I think he just doesn’t understand the law. After all, sobriety checkpoints are unconstitutional, right? City Council members set the law of the land. Supreme Court has no authority.

        • #20 by truthseeker on November 8, 2012

          CCCB what do you think of checkpoints that utilize backscatter Xray body scanners, distribute forced vaccinations and take DNA samples?

          • #21 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

            truthseeker :
            CCCB what do you think of checkpoints that utilize backscatter Xray body scanners, distribute forced vaccinations and take DNA samples?

            Sounds to me like the United Nations concentration camps you think are being secretly set up.

            • #22 by truthseeker on November 8, 2012

              CCCB that is not what I asked. Would you like to answer?

              • #23 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

                I have no problems with TSA checkpoints, and fully support them. I always choose the body search for a cheap thrill. That’s always an option if you don’t like the scanners.

                Forced vaccinations? Could go either way on that. I see both sides of the argument. Me? I’ll choose the vaccinations. I think it’s irresponsible not to, but I’d draw the line at forcing them.

                DNA samples for felony arrestees? Hell, yes. Lots of crimes solved that way. I would have no problem with my DNA being in a government law enforcement database. Just like I have no problem with my fingerprints being in there.

        • #24 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

          Sobriety checkoints are unconstitutional – unless they are appropriately advertised; which means of course that they are inherently inefficient in their purported function. Unless, of course, the real purpose – like getting cops OT and impounding vehicles is the true mission.

          • #25 by truthseeker on November 8, 2012

            Fred you are spot on. The slippery slope they fight for eventually leads to what I described. I guess they don’t care as long as they can stand around and drink coffee for 90-100 bucks an hour and laugh at the cars as they get towed away.

            • #26 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

              We don’t laugh at the cars or the drivers we arrest. We just feel good that we got them off the road before they killed anyone. Most of the people we arrest are very decent people who made a stupid mistake while their judgement was clouded by alcohol.

              • #27 by truthseeker on November 8, 2012

                CCCB the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don’t doubt there are those of you who are sworn who operate by the rules. However this is clearly an ineffective strategy at reducing drunk driving as opposed to saturation patrols. I have yet to receive what I requested in the form of a public information request concerning the DUI grant or grants-plural or singular is what I am still seeking clarity on. The precedents continue to be set to take the Country down the slippery slope on a toboggan. Between the Patriot Act, The NDAA, John Warner Defense Authorization Act, the end of Posse Comitatus and a long list of legislation, PDD’s and executive orders this old excuse about giving up our rights for our safety has become utter nonsense and the Constitution has merely become a manuscript under a piece of glass in the Smithsonian. CCCB you and your fellow officers will be faced with major decisions in your lifetime. At the local level in my opinion these checkpoints amount to a misappropriation of scarce public funds to benefit a select few. It also serves to provide Pavlovian training to the masses what would make the Founders of this great Nation turn over in their graves. By the way the camps are not UN facilities.They were built by KBR and Haliburton for FEMA and they even have playground for children.

              • #28 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

                Oh bullshit.

  4. #29 by Peter Sanchez on November 6, 2012

    Cold Chillin Cops Balls:
    Cops like you have balls?

    Nice bomb blast Cold Chiller Cop with “Balls”. Enough balls to anonymously post on a blog. That takes great balls.

    Kiger 2012! Whitaker 2012!

    • #30 by R.D. on November 6, 2012

      CCCB: Judge killing bastard has the same ring. What kind of cop would use such a disgusting name of CCCB? Unless you’re the one who licks the cop balls at FPD.

    • #31 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

      Peter Sanchez :
      Enough balls to anonymously post on a blog. That takes great balls

      Yes, almost as much as it takes to post under “Peter Sanchez” with no additional identifying information. Only a few hundred by that name in the state.

      • #32 by Peter Sanchez on November 8, 2012

        What ID info do you need Mr. Ball-less? You want my union ID? Most legit law enforcement personnel I know, don’t bomb blogs with BS statements that reflect poorly on their departments. How about you spend less time on this blog and more time patroling the streets of Fullerton so its tax paying citizens get the value of their tax $$?

        • #33 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

          “BS”? Please explain the irrelevance of any of my posts.

          Also….I don’t work for Fullerton. Nor do I know anybody who currently works there, although I talk to them in public from time to time. And, no, I don’t know anyone from that department past or present ever charged with any sort of crime. You should just consider me a concerned Fullerton resident who happens to be a police officer. Also, it’s relevant for you to know I don’t think/never thought much of McKinley or Sellers.

          I’m a Fullerton resident, homeowner, and business owner.

          I don’t need to know who you are any more than you need to know my specific name, although I’m curious if you’re a Fullerton resident.

  5. #34 by Sean Mill on November 6, 2012

    Best of luck to Travis & Bruce!

    • #35 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

      “Best of luck to Travis & Bruce”………… Hmmmmm

      Travis & Bruce – who?

      Is this new reality TV show? or new ice creme? like Ben & Jerry?

      Please explain Mill

      • #36 by Anonymous on November 6, 2012

        Calm down Gregorley Diamonla

  6. #37 by truthseeker on November 6, 2012

    May Travis and Bruce prevail.

  7. #38 by Anonymous on November 6, 2012

    Hey Cynthia – don’t forget to vote for Steven Lodge Chavez.

  8. #39 by R.D. on November 6, 2012

    I predict a landslide for Barry, Bruce, and Travis tonight.

    • #40 by Reasonable People on November 6, 2012

      You would RD and who gives a shit about Cythia Ward or her opinion? She doesn’t live in Fullerton and has her own shit pile of city in anaheim to take care of. Blog about that! I don’t understand her constant defending keeger, whittaker and bushala. Did you date one of the older guys in HS

      • #41 by I SPY on November 7, 2012

        Another spiteful unproductive TROLL

    • #42 by Tracey on November 6, 2012

      I sure hope so R.D.

    • #43 by JOHN DOE on November 8, 2012

      What happened R.D?

  9. #44 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

    Very very early 4:33 PM

    Obama 3 electoral votes.
    Romney 24 electoral votes.

    • #45 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

      Getting ready to CELEBRATE!!!

      • #46 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

        The stock market going up is a solid indicator.

        • #47 by nipsey on November 6, 2012

          When I need a delusional weirdo, you’re my go to guy.

  10. #49 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

    3
    to
    49 electoral votes

    4:50 PM Pacific

  11. #51 by cg on November 6, 2012

    I work for a large defense company. We were all lookin at our health benefits. “CAN WE SAY THEY HAVE TRIPLED FOR 2013″. HOLY SHIT…..Thanks OBama…….

    • #52 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

      “Affordable Care Act” in political speak means “Unaffordable and Careless”

      • #53 by cg on November 6, 2012

        $500.00 to $700.00 per month, for two……

        • #54 by Anonymous on November 6, 2012

          yep

          • #55 by cg on November 6, 2012

            I will be health care poor……And it SUCKS……i guess there’s only one thing to do, “DIE and pay taxes”…..So much for retirement…..

    • #56 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

      Well folks, I am rooting for Obama because, same as I had to for 22 years in the old communist Czechoslovakia, you too must learn about the real socialism.

      • #57 by cg on November 6, 2012

        your joken? right? cause I’m about to put you in bed with GD….and we know how much you love Greg….

        • #58 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

          “we know how much you love Greg”……… Hmmmmm

          And that is reason #2 because Obama is the only president in the history of the USA (and for long tam will be) who can put end to the Israel’s Zionist expansion and let them self destruct in their early summer attack on Iran.

          Israel will end up like 4 Americans in Benghazi.

          I can survive 4 years of Obama but Golem can’t.

          • #59 by cg on November 6, 2012

            OOPs, I forgot that you are full of shit…..

            • #60 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

              Diamond dragged him in here???

              • #61 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

                Only in the sense that I suspended him from Orange Juice Blog — the only time I’ve ever suspended anyone from it. He found his own way here.

                • #62 by Grog Durrmend on November 8, 2012

                  I lost my glasses, went to the car, searched the center console and found them, I was inscrutably overwrought — I occupied a walmart today.

          • #63 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

            You moron mongoloids, you must learn historical realty of the life and without a misery of real socialism you can’t.

            FYI, I am planing on giving seminars on how to convert front page of the Time Magazine to toilet paper since next year it will be in grave shortage.

            Something I have learn in the real communism.

            I give 20% discount to early birds.

            • #64 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

              quote “Obama is the only president in the history of the USA (and for long tam will be) who can put end to the Israel’s Zionist expansion”

              ^^^^??? what evidence do you have that suggests this bankster puppet prez will stand up to his masters? the bank drug money laundering is not stopping anytime soon, wall street has not changed one bit.

            • #65 by Mark Fuhrman on November 7, 2012

              I can’t tell if you’re in sarcasm mode, but with the way people in OC throw around the word Socialism, you would think they knew what it meant. Socialism is Communism with its claws retracted. I saw that walking through Checkpoint Charlie in 1983.

              • #66 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

                “Checkpoint Charlie in 1983″……….. Hmmmmmm

                In 1983 it was fairly civilized. I was there in 1967 checking out if I can bust through the Iron curtain there. After my investigation I have sobered out with my plans to do that there.

                Be patient!…. it must play out in the real time.

                Just imagine that the entire communist block failed because of the chewing gum, rock n’ roll and blue jeans prohibition.

                Enjoy upcoming crises and observe the moron mongoloids who voted for socialism hitting them right into their ass.

  12. #67 by No Thank You on November 6, 2012

    I refuse to vote for anyone who’s campaign is funded by a developer. Fullerton has had enough of this in the past years, but you all will never learn.

    As an FYI-This blog is owned by fascist!

    • #68 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

      That is an outright disingenuous lie!!!

      • #69 by Peaches on November 6, 2012

        aren’t “disingenuous” and “lie” almost the same thing? Or were you being funny?

        • #70 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

          Why cant you use both?

          • #71 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

            Cant you say a smart genius?

            dis·in·gen·u·ous/ˌdisinˈjenyo͞oəs/
            Adjective:
            Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

          • #72 by Peaches on November 6, 2012

            it’s redundant

            • #73 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

              It would be redundant if they were exactly the same, which they arent.

    • #74 by cg on November 6, 2012

      You have that right to think that way. Do you think that Fullerton residents are Facist?

    • #75 by Mark Fuhrman on November 7, 2012

      The “fascists” killed Kelly Thomas.

  13. #76 by CITY OF FULLERTON Member, City Council on November 6, 2012

  14. #78 by runningair on November 6, 2012

    Whitaker, Fitzgerald, Kiger out to an early lead. Then Flory, then Alvarez.

  15. #79 by Uh oh on November 6, 2012

    I think next to go is Hughes then FPD…. Wow, great job

  16. #80 by Kiger may be on November 6, 2012

    unseated by Flory.

    TRAVIS KIGER 4,842 12.6%
    JAN M. FLORY 4,835 12.6%

  17. #81 by cg on November 6, 2012

    OH FUCK! HE WON….GRAB YOUR ASS….AND HIDE… IF YOU CAN…..

  18. #82 by Kiger may be on November 6, 2012

    Don’t celebrate too soon ass grabber.

    • #83 by cg on November 6, 2012

      i WAS TALKIN ABOUT OBAMA…… MY JOB WILL BE GONE…AND SO WILL BE YOURS….

      • #84 by Not mine on November 6, 2012

        You have no idea what my job is, so don’t put me in your melting pot.

  19. #85 by nipsey on November 6, 2012

    Wow. $1.5 million propaganda campaign, every local shill and paid lackey on the payroll, sleazy complicity of the council majority and still Measure W looks to be headed for crushing defeat.

  20. #88 by Chicken on November 6, 2012

    Bruce and travis vs jan and rick, with jennifer to always decide. Is tgat what were gunna get.

    Ps

    Fuck chevron : ) good work

    • #89 by kcuf norvehc on November 6, 2012

      Now Fullerton citizens can look forward to paying for MASSIVE lawsuit. Stupid tree huggers.

  21. #90 by 4 more years of on November 6, 2012

    What Obama inherited: What we have now:
    AAA Credit Rating AA Credit Rating
    7.8% Unemployment 8.3% Unemployment
    $1.81 Gas/Gallon $3.69 Gas/Gallon
    10 Trillion Debt 15+ Trillion Debt
    2 Wars 3 Wars
    26 Weeks unemployment 99 Weeks unemployment
    Annual Budget No Budget

    • #91 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

      Buisnesses and Corporations look out about a year ahead, at least, Hillary and Obamas eventual win started the decline early 2008, those numbers dont tell the whole picture. Wall street fell really hard when Obama talked down the economy as a nominee in late 2008, and when he moved to nationalize the banks early in his presidency.

      Its a lot worse than the numbers say from January 2009, Bush was very Progressive too. (So is Greg Diamond)

      House will stays republican, THANK GOD!!!.

    • #92 by SHIMON MENDEL on November 7, 2012

      Dear 4 more… The President doesn’t:
      control the price of gas
      our credit rating (point to congress fo that one)
      also-2 wars to 3 wars, where’s the third war?

      Things he did do
      pushed through national health care (very imperfect but a start)
      ended US military presence in Iraq
      saved GM — and a lot of good jobs

  22. #93 by cg on November 6, 2012

    Looks like I am leavin So Cal. I will rent the homestead out. So Cal is a dead dog.

    • #94 by Good to go on November 6, 2012

      CG : so long don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

    • #95 by nipsey on November 6, 2012

      Adios. Hope you find someplace where Obama isn’t the President.

      • #96 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

        Be cool. she already said she was going broke from health care costs.

        Best wishes, good health, Good Luck!!! :)

      • #97 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

        “Hope you find someplace where Obama isn’t the President”……. Hmmmmmm

        Forget Obama think IRS!

        Unlike the rest of civilized countries, as long as you are USA citizen you must file and pay your income tax no mater where in the world, including our galaxy, you live.

        The only way to freedom is to gave up your USA citizenship.

        So the IRS is now the most powerful communist power.

        • #98 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

          The ocean is International law, some fly their own flag on old oil platforms.

          • #99 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

            You do not understand!

            Your USA tax obligation is a function of your citizenship not your residency.

            As a US citizen you must file even if you live on the Moon.

            So you are not as free as you may think!

            • #100 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

              We were talking about leaving the country and tax obligations?

              • #101 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

                If you leave the country you have same tax obligations as if you stay!

                YOU MUST FILE WITH IRS EVEN IF YOU LIVE IN RUSSIA.

        • #103 by nipsey on November 6, 2012

          Not precisely true. I have lived outside the USA for years. There is an exemption for foreign earned income of ~$90K USD. Yes, you do have to file tax returns but if you have US income as well (I did) that was going to happen anyway.

    • #106 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

      As dictated by historical mandate the evil always wins by the popular mandate!

      Enjoy!

    • #107 by hotdog dave on November 6, 2012

      LEAVE NOW SLUT

    • #108 by SHIMON MENDEL on November 7, 2012

      bye bye

  23. #109 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

    Is Fitzgerald, better than Quirk Silva or Chaffee???

    • #110 by runningair on November 6, 2012

      I think so.

    • #111 by I SPY on November 7, 2012

      Fitzgerald is an opportunist and fixer. see CWLA a Political Action Group. I believe Spouse is a Lobbyist like Akerman…..

  24. #112 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

    When will the votes for Fullerton are all in?

  25. #113 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

    lead goes to 33 votes was only 7 earlier.

    TRAVIS KIGER 5,103 12.6%
    JAN M. FLORY 5,070 12.5%

  26. #114 by Uh oh on November 6, 2012

    I guess cleaning up those people’s yards didn’t work danny boy!!! Maybe you should of cleaned up ur PD first!!!!

    • #115 by JC on November 6, 2012

      My favorite post this month.

      Ahahaha Danny is curled up in a ball somewhere right now.

    • #116 by Fullerton Lover on November 7, 2012

      Zing.

  27. #117 by TNT on November 6, 2012

    So can we do fireworks or not? I for one miss them

    • #118 by Lifesaving Service on November 6, 2012

      X – Fullerton Fireworks Ban Measure
      Completed Precincts: 8 of 88
      Vote Count Percentage
      Yes 7,140 44.7%
      No 8,817 55.3%

  28. #119 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

    The value of the USA democracy may be “0″

    STATE SENATOR 29th District
    Completed Precincts: 49 of 421
    Vote Count Percentage
    ROBERT “BOB” HUFF 46,327 60.9%
    GREG DIAMOND 29,684 39.1%

    So far 29,684 moron mongoloids voted for Golem.

    • #120 by hotdog dave on November 6, 2012

      but 46,327 didn’t GROFAZ

      • #121 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

        “but 46,327 didn’t”…….. Hmmmmm

        So you live in a country where virtually every second person is retard ad has right to vote.

        The voting should be IQ based privilege not a right.

  29. #122 by Stanley Fiala on November 6, 2012

    However, no other citizens of other country have to, so that makes you less free than a Brit, Canadian or Rus!

    Was the USA revolution worth to do?

  30. #123 by Good to go on November 6, 2012

    Travis is on his way down……yesssss

  31. #124 by Chicken on November 6, 2012

    What do we know about jenn fitsgerald?

  32. #125 by hotdog dave on November 6, 2012

    Stanley Fiala :
    The value of the USA democracy may be “0″
    STATE SENATOR 29th District
    Completed Precincts: 49 of 421
    Vote Count Percentage
    ROBERT “BOB” HUFF 46,327 60.9%
    GREG DIAMOND 29,684 39.1%
    So far 29,684 moron mongoloids voted for Golem.

    This whole race was a scam by diamond. He just did it to raise as much money as he could to buy hotdogs from costco.
    He raised over 10 grand, and prob didn’t spend a dime of it on his campaign.

    • #126 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

      “He raised over 10 grand, and prob didn’t spend a dime of it on his campaign”………… Hmmmmm

      A classical Jew!

      • #127 by Stephan Baxter on November 7, 2012

        A classical Jew? You Stanley are a piece of bigoted shit. On the list of things that you could have criticized Diamond for that’s what you came up with? You are pathetic. Admin should remove your post.

        • #128 by hotdog dave on November 7, 2012

          baxter you are just a anti-gentile piece of garbage

          • #129 by Stephan Baxter on November 7, 2012

            I am a gentile – and I’m not self hating.

            • #130 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

              As long as Jews can have JDL, Mexicans LA RAZA and blacks the BLACK PANTHERS, I can have my WHITE POWER!…… can I?

              You are moron mongoloid Baxter destroying your race.

              • #131 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

                “The individual is the biggest minority”

                “Peace and Happiness *****”

              • #133 by hotdog dave on November 7, 2012

                Stan you are not white, you’re a mid east russian sack of shit.

                • #134 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

                  “you’re a mid east russian sack of shit”…….. Hmmmmm

                  FYI, you uneducated moron mongoloid the “mid east” is not the Europe or Russia.

                  The white race aka Caucasian race originates in (Caucasus – Kavkas – Kavkasians) from where the most “Caucasian” people of all the Caucasians come from.

                  I am not surprised that US elections are such a failure if an idiot like you can vote.

                  So I am Caucasian from the Bohemia.

        • #135 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

          Oh, Bax — is this your first Fiala encounter? Why do you think he’s not at OJB? (Well, we currently let him in when he’s not in the mode you see here.)

          • #136 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

            “Why do you think he’s not at OJB?”………. Hmmmmm

            Because, I am “voting for the revenge” as my chalenged cool leader ordered me to do!

            • #137 by Fight Lounge on November 8, 2012

              Stanley Fiala is Greg Diamond’s Tyler Durden.

              • #138 by Johnny Donut on November 8, 2012

                I think you’re on to something.

          • #139 by Greg's Toes on November 9, 2012

            Even though we lost, can we still get the new shoes you promised…

            • #140 by Greg's Soiled Undies on November 9, 2012

              And it’s really time for a wash.

      • #141 by SHIMON MENDEL on November 7, 2012

        Ok if I get your address for the JDL?

  33. #142 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    Thank BLANKEN GOD!!!
    But close!!!

    CITY OF FULLERTON Member, City Council
    Number To Vote For: 3
    Completed Precincts: 77 of 88
    Vote Count Percentage
    BRUCE WHITAKER 11,322 14.0%
    JENNIFER FITZGERALD 11,107 13.8%
    TRAVIS KIGER 9,492 11.8%
    JAN M. FLORY 9,461 11.7%
    RICK ALVAREZ 8,054 10.0%

  34. #143 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

    NAIL BITER!!!!

    • #144 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      SAYS ITS A DONE DEAL… BITCHESSSS!!!

      CITY OF FULLERTON Member, City Council
      Number To Vote For: 3
      Completed Precincts: 88 of 88
      Vote Count Percentage
      BRUCE WHITAKER 12,211 14.0%
      JENNIFER FITZGERALD 12,084 13.8%
      TRAVIS KIGER 10,235 11.7%
      JAN M. FLORY 10,159 11.6%
      RICK ALVAREZ 8,748 10.0%

      • #145 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

        FULLERTON IS BACK IN BUISNESS!!!!

        Its been some really bad decades.

      • #146 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

        “SAYS ITS A DONE DEAL… BITCHESSSS!!!”……… Hmmmmm

        Not until the fat lady sings!

        The election is not over until certified by the Secretary of State. That may be 2 to 3 weeks.

        There may be a recount since we are talking about 76 votes.

  35. #148 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    All precincts are counted.

    Whitaker, Fitzgerald, Kiger won.

    • #149 by Fullerton Lover on November 7, 2012

      Well done gentleman!

      I couldn’t be happier!

      My whole family is celebrating tonight!

  36. #150 by Peter Sanchez on November 7, 2012

    All the money these corrupt cops and union lovers threw against Bruce and Travis, they prevail. How does it feel to know your days of city budget busting pensions and overtime are officially OVER!!!!

    SUCK IT!

    Tony Bushala is the MAN!

  37. #151 by Nomad on November 7, 2012

    Well done, councilman Whitaker and councilman Kiger. FPOA….Ahhhhh!

    • #152 by JC on November 7, 2012

      Was the FPOA invested in Fitz? What do we know about her other than the creative hair streaks?

      I’d pay a small fortune to switch her out for Rands or Levinson, but I’ll take it Fullerton.

      • #153 by runningair on November 7, 2012

        No. FPOA did not support her.

        In fact, she supported getting a bid from OCSD.

        • #154 by JC on November 7, 2012

          Thanks for the info. Much better than (some of) the alternatives.

          Voice of Fullerton was heard tonight. Just like October 16th. You can’t bully the people, FPOA. Backfired again.

          Looking forward to seeing Kiger and Whitaker up there next meeting. Now, let’s start reforming the police department! For reals this time!

          • #155 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

            Fitz received lots of $$$ from individual police and fire. Read her statement.

            • #156 by JC on November 7, 2012

              I was not aware of this, but wasn’t expecting much from her anyways, to be honest.

              Is it true that she was pro OCSD bid?

              She is pro Danny, so that’s not adding up for me.

        • #157 by I SPY on November 7, 2012

          Fitz was anti Recall.

        • #158 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

          So if Kiger gets in, can we discuss the option of an OCSD bid again or is that a done deal? I prefer to keep a cleaned up FPD but have no faith that Danny can do that.

  38. #159 by JC on November 7, 2012

    I’m gonna go leave a bottle of gin at Flory’s place.

    Well done fullerton. Not big on Fitzgerald but at least you kept the two decent ones in.

    So happy Kiger pulled through. And equally that Flory failed.

    • #160 by runningair on November 7, 2012

      I really don’t think Fitzgerald is bad like some people think.

      The biggest victory is the defeat of Jan Flory. Remember that.

    • #161 by Tom Hanson on November 7, 2012

      Why would you waste booze like that? Flory can afford her own anesthetizing.

  39. #162 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    And last but not least.

    W (Coyote Hills) failed
    X (Fireworks) passed

  40. #163 by JC on November 7, 2012

    Cheers to another few years of Flory whining to Kiger, glad she will be on the peoples side of the dais.

    • #164 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Kiger by only 76 votes, how apropos AND its gotta hurt!!!

      • #165 by anonyface on November 7, 2012

        She lost because of the classless breastfeeding comment?

        Discuss.

        • #166 by runningair on November 7, 2012

          She lost because she’s an arrogant, nasty woman.

  41. #167 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    The bad news of the evening is that Sharon Quirk-Silva beat Chris Norby.

    That’s hard to believe on so many levels.

    • #168 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      She had a lot of money and a Democratic Presidential incumbents election on her side.

      • #169 by runningair on November 7, 2012

        She got her ass kicked in the primary election. And then refused to debate Chris Norby.

        She’ll fit right in with the rest of the incompetent goons in Sacramento.

    • #170 by Peter Sanchez on November 7, 2012

      Heartbreaking news. He kicked her teeth in during the summer primary and to see Fullerton and NOC voters elect Quirk into office is mindnumbing.

  42. #171 by No FPD Union puppets! Time for reform. on November 7, 2012

    Travis wins by only 75 votes!

  43. #175 by Nomad on November 7, 2012

    On the coolness factor alone, I’ll bet that old truck was good for a hundred votes, easy!

  44. #177 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    Awfully quiet in here tonight. The FPOA trolls must be crying their eyes out right now.

  45. #178 by truthseeker on November 7, 2012

    Congratulations to Bruce and Travis. What a great evening for the residents of this great city. The tireless and selfless efforts of all involved on the right side of things have finally been rewarded with real continued leadership that will work in the best interests and safety of the community at large and not the self interests of an obsolete monopoly. The City government exists to serve the taxpayers and residents not the other way around. Our re-elected leaders get it.

  46. #179 by Nomad on November 7, 2012

    RIP Kelly.

  47. #180 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    She looks very sweet and intelligent.

    Jennifer Fitzgerald For Fullerton City Council, Video #1 – “Conversations with Jennifer”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmYZYE0eg4

    • #181 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      “Grand Slam”

      • #182 by runningair on November 7, 2012

        I will vote for just about anybody who opposes the status quo at 303 W. Commonwealth.

  48. #183 by streets of fullerotn on November 7, 2012

    how did it go for measure x?

    • #184 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Passed

      • #185 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

        X – Fullerton Fireworks Ban Measure
        Completed Precincts: 88 of 88
        Vote Count Percentage
        Yes 18,405 52.0%
        No 17,020 48.0%

        • #186 by streets of fullerotn on November 7, 2012

          the icing on the cake! I think I’ll bring out the fireworks tommorrow a little ahead of time.

  49. #187 by anonyface on November 7, 2012

    Thank you Tony for all your work to make this happen!

    Glad X came through for you :)

    • #188 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Espescially for all his time too!!!
      Im sure it was a lot of peoples free time involved too.

      David Bowie & Mick Jagger – Dancing In The Street
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ

      • #189 by anonyface on November 7, 2012

        yes, the time he spent to ensure fullerton didn’t backslide is very appreciated. Glad he exists! If for no other reason than how delicious FPOA tears taste.

        Didn’t 32 pass as well?

    • #190 by JOHN DOE on November 7, 2012

      I will buy them in Buena Park…

  50. #191 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    32-POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS BY PAYROLL DEDUCTION. CONTRIBUTIONS TO CANDIDATES.
    Completed Precincts: 1971 of 1977
    Vote Count Percentage
    Yes 465,820 56.8%
    No 353,915 43.2%

  51. #196 by anonyface on November 7, 2012

    Careful on the streets of fullerton tonight. Cops will be angry.

    • #197 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      I believe many of them will be very very happy too!!! (Or hope so)

  52. #198 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    We may have jumped the gun on Kiger/Flory. All precincts are counted, but not necessarily the paper ballots or the VBM ballots dropped off at the precincts today.

    • #199 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Daily Titan called it, Twitter???

      Daily Titan News ‏@dtnewsdesk
      New Fullerton City Council members are Bruce Whitaker, Jennifer Fitzgerald and Travis Kiger. Jan M. Flory lost a seat by 76 votes.

      • #200 by runningair on November 7, 2012

        Lots of people have “called” it, but the Registrar of Voters says on their own website not all votes have been counted.

        • #201 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

          what percentage

          • #202 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

            Posted: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:29 am | Updated: 1:36 am, Wed Nov 7, 2012.

            “Orange County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelly said in a telephone interview it shouldn’t take too long to count the remaining absentee ballots. He said all of those received before Tuesday already have been counted. An additional 25,000 arrived in the mail Tuesday and an unknown number were dropped off at polling places.
            “For the first time, we were completely caught up with all of our vote-by-mail ballots this morning,” he said Tuesday night. “There’s not a lot left to count.” -voiceofoc.org

    • #203 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

      Thanks for saving me the trouble of explaining to you how elections work.

      • #204 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

        Thanks for sparing us from your Golemic crapola!

      • #205 by Anonymous on November 8, 2012

        greg takes donations, greg don’t spend donations on campaign. greg does buy 10,000 hotdogs at costco, oh and few rolls of tp.
        THAT’S HOW ELECTIONS WORK

  53. #206 by JC on November 7, 2012

    Justice for Kelly!

  54. #207 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

  55. #208 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    Tuesday, November 6th – 1:00 a.m. – eighth unofficial results from polling places
    (and tentative last update for the evening)

    Wednesday, November 7th – 5:00 p.m. first post Election Night unofficial results from additional vote-by-mail ballots, paper ballots and provisionals cast at the polling places

    Updates will continue each weekday by 5:00 p.m. during the canvass period until the last official results are posted.

  56. #209 by Kiger on November 7, 2012

    And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the living creatures of the earth.

    • #210 by truthseeker on November 7, 2012

      Are you ascribed to a dispensational, pre-millenial, post-millenial or amillenial eschatological perspective?

  57. #211 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    Here’s Gin Flurry learning she’s getting her ass kicked.

    [img]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7502/ginflurry2cleaned.jpg[/img]
    http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7502/ginflurry2cleaned.jpg

    She must really be in a drunken stupor now!

    [img]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1972/ginflurrycleaned.jpg[/img]
    http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1972/ginflurrycleaned.jpg

    • #212 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      “No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man’s permission when we ask him to obey it.”
      -Theodore Roosevelt

    • #213 by Fullerton Lover on November 7, 2012

      This is video footage that I shot of Jan Flory right after she found out that Travis Kiger had beat her by 76 votes…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQFWnHhMFk

    • #214 by Fred Alcazar on November 7, 2012

      Beads? Check.

      Muumuu? Check

      Self-righteous indignation? Trifecta!

  58. #215 by Good Bye Norby on November 7, 2012

    Freak…..

  59. #216 by Chicken on November 7, 2012

    Thank you to all who cared enough to participate in our future. it feels like were headed in the right direction

  60. #217 by Who is Jennifer Cowen-Fitzgerald, and Why Doesn’t She Like FFFF? on November 7, 2012

    • #218 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

      If I were you, I’d be thankful you have a 4-1 majority right now. Leave it alone.

  61. #219 by Good to go on November 7, 2012

    Whitaker is now unemployed, his only source of income will be Tony Bushala

    • #220 by anonymous on November 7, 2012

      I’m kind of blonde, can you explain to me what that means exactly? No jokes. I get a Norby loss is bad for Whitaker but not the details of why.

      • #221 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

        He works on Norby’s Assembly staff.

  62. #222 by Chris on November 7, 2012

    Whats really scary is Don Airhead got over 5000 votes!! Who would vote for this guy, are people that dumb???

  63. #223 by Momof4js on November 7, 2012

    Hey everyone – OC Vote.com says Travis won, but the Register has Flory listed in 3rd place. Ugh! Travis is not even listed in the paper this morning. What the heck is going on? Someone – please explain! Thank you.

    • #224 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

      That could be that those results were turned in right when they needed to run the paper?

      • #225 by Momof4js on November 7, 2012

        Thanks, but doesn’t anyone find it really odd that all the candidates that ran for council are listed in the Register with the # of votes they received and Travis is completely omitted? His name is not listed anywhere except to identify his image on page 7! It’s so bizarre to me.

        SO … did Travis win? I am sure hoping so!

        • #226 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

          He’s ahead right now, but not yet. Provisional ballots haven’t been counted, and it’s nail bitingly close!

        • #229 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

          And I know I’m justifying, if you know what I mean. It is pretty close though.

        • #230 by Chris Thompson on November 7, 2012

          It’s correct on the Register’s website.

          http://www.ocregister.com/sections/elections/city-councils-a-l/

          • #231 by Momof4js on November 7, 2012

            Thank you, Chris. That was helpful! I’m so glad Travis won … Thank you Fullerton voters!

            However, I am most curious about the profile of the population that voted for Jennifer (because she actually had more votes than Travis). I would have thought Bruce and Travis would have taken the top two positions.

            Any insight and analysis, folks?

            In our household, we feel like screaming from the mountain top – in celebration that Flory did not get a seat!

            • #232 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

              Fitzgerald is a chamber member, is very involved at EV Free and I personally think did some great communications materials for this campaign. Whether you like it or not, Fullerton is a conservative Republican community, and they obviously came out en masse for her.

              • #233 by Seasoned Political Observer on November 7, 2012

                She was a stealth candidate. Nobody ran any hit pieces against her; she had no name recognition, and her church came out for her.

                On the downside, she sucks.

                Watch her carefully.

            • #234 by anonymous on November 7, 2012

              I think maybe it’s just how republican this area is? She didn’t have a very visual campaign.

            • #235 by Chris Thompson on November 7, 2012

              All of the following contributed to Jennifer’s active support as well as her ultimately succeeding in earning a 3rd vote from many people. Pros with Jennifer are that she is intelligent, articulate and pleasant to be around. Cons are that she opposed the recall and is close with people like Dick Ackerman whom I believe to be motivated primarily by personal, financial gain. She has a long history with the Chamber of Commerce in Fullerton (it’s former President I believe) and also has been active as a political fundraiser for Republican candidates. In those roles, she has quietly built a significant number of relationships both around town and in the party and this was the first time that she was able to capitalize on those relationships in a campaign for herself. Being a member at the very large EV Free Church didn’t hurt either. Additionally, Gary Graves was her campaign manager, and while I have mixed feeling about his political acumen in its totality, he seems to be pretty good at branding and has many Fullerton successes to his credit. Jennifer obviously built a pretty good brand in a short time and connected with the voters. In speaking to Gary last night, they did more than I was aware of. More mail than I realized, robocalls that I was unaware of and she was on a number of slates with Travis and Bruce (they were on virtually everything).

              A couple of non-political women who I am close with voted for her simply because they liked how she spoke and liked what her mail had to say. Also, Jennifer was left alone in terms of being the only known “player” in the race who did not get politically hit. Personally, I will be honest enough to say that I let her know that I was quietly hoping for her victory, but that I could not vote for her as Travis was my #1 concern in that race and as evidenced by the result, I considered her a viable threat to his re-election.

              I’ve told Jennifer this, but I have a huge watch out for her relationships and concern for being disliked over-ruling her wisdom. I worry about Sebourn with that sometimes.

              I reserve my right to change my opinion, but I’m glad she’s there, although she certainly brings her own base which I hope does more to make her independent than to allow her to be self-serving.

              As I side note, I was very concerned by her comments related to DUI checkpoints. Not so much her position as her absence of any real political philosophy there. I suspect that was a purely political statement, but one that I particularly did not like. I know that she is smart enough to understand the issues surrounding DUI checkpoints.

              • #236 by Cop Logic on November 7, 2012

                Chris Thompson. Your tactics worked too. Disappear until the day after the election. Slick. Good to see you back.

              • #237 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

                She is very pro Hughes. Does that mean we can’t expect much from her as far as real police reform?

              • #238 by Thompson's skeletons on November 7, 2012

                Wow! Go figure the day of the election and the day after we hear from Chris. Did TB unlock the closet? Do you finally have his permission to speak?

                Chris, you think very highly of yourself. Nobody gives a rats ass about your opinion.

                Get back up to Beechwood and make sure that parking lot is safe at night.

                • #239 by Love it!! on November 7, 2012

                  He not only thinks highly of himself, he is arrogant.

                • #240 by Chris Thompson on November 7, 2012

                  I’m sure you’re very courageous in person.

                • #241 by Courageous on November 8, 2012

                  Sitting in a school parking lot at night watching teenagers having sex. Come on Chris, really?

                • #242 by Fullerton Lover on November 8, 2012

                  So as a School Board Member we expect Chris Thompson to ignore occupied vehicles that are sitting in a school parking lot at night?

                  How many times do we as residents here about our schools being broken into at night and all of the high technology gear was stolen and our kids left without?

              • #243 by Fullerton Lover on November 8, 2012

                Thanks for the political insight Chris.

                I think that your pretty spot on in your assessment of Jennifer’s political allegiance.

                My observation is that most Chamber of Commerce members have been blinded by their allegiance to the FPD, and have never given the residents anything but lip service when it came time to reform the FPD, always maintaining that the FPD is above reproach.

                My sincere hope is that Jennifer Cowan Fitzgerald is different than the rest and will take the urgent need for reformation and citizen oversight of the FPD more responsibly than the cheerleaders at the Chamber of Commerce have in the past.

                • #244 by SHIMON MENDEL on November 8, 2012

                  sorry, but citizen oversight is a toothless tiger. we need a strong legal intervention by the fed courts.

  64. #245 by State Assembly District 65 on November 7, 2012

  65. #246 by Greg Diamond on November 7, 2012

    That was cruel.

    Thank you.

  66. #248 by ha on November 7, 2012

    Im pretty sure Whitaker is out of a job this morning…

    • #249 by R.D. on November 7, 2012

      Whitaker won a seat. Can’t you read?

      • #250 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

        I think he means because Norby’s out of a job

        • #251 by Cop Logic on November 7, 2012

          I’m shocked he lost. I guess Squirks political consultant knew exactly what he was doing. Hide her and use her name. Amazing. What a sales job. Impressive.

          • #252 by Perception is Reality in the eyes of stupidios on November 8, 2012

            Cop Logic, you’re right…consultants get paid because they are suppose to know how to get politicians (smart ones and dumb ones alike) elected.

            Even though the unions poured in hundreds of thousands to help Quirk whack Norby, Norby’s crappy mailers made it possible for Quirk to appear to be intelligent in the eyes of the voters.

            • #253 by Ghost of O'Malley on November 8, 2012

              Yep. John Lewis screwed Norby. No wait. Norby screwed himself. Despite a massive pension he will still need a job to support all those kids.

      • #254 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

        RD, you really are a jackass.

        P.S. Stay away from my kids

        • #255 by Fullerton Lover on November 8, 2012

          Anonymous…

          I feel the same way about the Fullerton Police Department.

        • #256 by R.D. on November 8, 2012

          Anonymous: If I could talk to your kids, I would tell them that you’re a corrupt cop who will be unemployed very soon. You’re no role model for them.

          Everyone here knows you’re a troll, and don’t believe a word you say. If you’re gonna attack me, try something with some truth behind it.

      • #257 by JOHN DOE on November 8, 2012

        No RD, cant you read…Oh, maybe not.

  67. #258 by van get it da artiste on November 7, 2012

    Good news for the good people of fullerton. last night heralds a better fullerton. a city not owned by its municipal public servants, miscreant city council persons(Bankhead,Jones and McKinley) and miscreant sycophants who jump for joy at the money/perk crumbs thrown to them by our past miscrant city council.
    Jan flory go lick your wounds and let the good people of fullerton alone.
    Sorry Jane Rands, better luck next time. Your past associations may have tainted your reputation.
    Reform of fullerton through restoration of representative government.
    for all those politicians who tossed around “main street” as a way of identifying with us little people who subsidize via our tax dollars the politicians who soon forget we are the people and view us as nothing more than cash cows, fullerton is “main street” ground zero for restoring our republic.

    • #259 by Fullerton needs honesty on November 7, 2012

      5:00 pm unofficial results update

    • #260 by SHIMON MENDEL on November 8, 2012

      Dear Van – Jane lacked a base. Jennifer had a a big chunk of EV Free Church voting for her. Jennifer is even more ‘tainted’.

  68. #261 by Cop Logic on November 7, 2012

    Wow. Squirk Silva won. Amazing. Tony could have ended her career but missed so bad she is now the big cheese. Pretty cool. Did Chief Dan get elected too? Lol

    • #262 by Ghost of O'Malley on November 7, 2012

      “Chief” Danny is toast. Back to captain and the inevitable disability pension.

      • #263 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

        Danny was never up for election. It is a position decided by the council. I am hopeful this council will not just hand it to him. The next decision will be whether or not to see other applicants. Chaffee and Fitz will be against it, the other three should be for it, assuming we get to keep Travis and that Greg Sebourn supports it

        • #264 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

          I see the votes and the electorate have made their opinion pretty well known.

          “I HEART PEOPLE???”

          • #265 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

            We <3 police reform.

            All the way.

            Until there is zero corruption and whistle-blowing is not only an option, but encouraged.

            Clean it up fast Danny, or step aside for someone who will.

            • #266 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

              Its soooo much easier when you follow ethics and the law.

              There seems to have no chain at the top of command, quite the opposite!!!

        • #268 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

          “The next decision will be whether or not to see other applicants.”

          No, that decision was made quite some time ago. It will not return to an agenda. And if it does it will be Felz’s last official act.

          • #269 by FTP on November 8, 2012

            Details please? I have been under the impression that the alternative to having Danny shoved down our throats was the option to accept other applicants.

            • #270 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

              An open recruitment. Fullerton City Council policy even though Chaffee is too dumb to know it.

              • #271 by Cop Logic on November 8, 2012

                Council needs to decide if they want their own PD before deciding on a Chief. If they decide they want their own PD they will get great Chief interest from great outside applicants. If they look now without deciding on their own PD or OCSD, they will get no interest or garbage interest. Why would anyone wants job that could be gone in a year or so. Keep your own PD and hire a good outside Captain or Chief. Look to the future and move that direction.

              • #272 by FTP on November 8, 2012

                Can you give me any more details on this?

                Is it an existing policy for the council to have open recruitment or is this something that was decided this past year?

                I know Chaffee and likely SQS were trying to push past that to enter into negotiations with Danny but I was not aware that it is fullerton’s policy to accept and review applicants before selecting a chief.

                • #273 by Ryan Cantor on November 8, 2012

                  I’ve been spending some time on this.

                  It’s complicated, but yes– there’s a policy on the books that requires open recruitment for any department head; however, with the move of the CoP’s hiring from the city manager to the city council, it’s not as clear if the policy applies. Precedence would dictate that it would, but that doesn’t mean that it does.

                  That said, take a look and the Fullerton Police handbook under recruitment. Pretty much states “no preferred candidates”. I thought that was interesting.

      • #274 by Cop Logic on November 8, 2012

        Yes. Back to Captain running the show. I love ghosts. I love Freds too.

        • #275 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

          Back to captain with special responsibilities for guarding crosswalks.

    • #276 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

      He tried a few times, but the comments kept getting sidetracked.

  69. #277 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

    So, now that W has bee crushed, will the honorable council members do what they said about honoring the will of the voters, or will they try to thwart it? After all, the will of the voters was to put you back into office (in some cases, just barely) so you might think about deferring to it.

    Chevron is already spinning it’s fallback position “we don’t know what voting no on W means” which is of course, 100% prime bullshit, since you don’t spend 1.5M on a campaign if you don’t know what’s at stake. Will Bruce and Travis and the Chamber of Commerce Queen now start pretending this is true?

    I am so disgusted with pretty much every one of these guys, get a fucking conscience.

    • #278 by Mark Fuhrman on November 7, 2012

      I think it’s important to spell out what “No on W” means. I’ve followed it and I’m not even sure. I could be wrong, and please don’t slag me off, it’s not an opinion, I need some clarification. OCTA wants to give Fullerton 24 million to buy the Coyote Hills land in question in the name of traffic mitigation. Chevron, as I understand, wants 34-35 million for the property which is basically a “poison pill” to stop the people of Fullerton. That’s 10-11 million that Fullerton will have to come up with to complete the purchase and that doesn’t even stick a shovel in the ground yet. To the “No on W” crowd: Where does that leave Fullerton?

      • #279 by Stephan Baxter on November 7, 2012

        After spending 1.6 million for 14,000 votes vs. 60k for 21,000 votes someone had to get on a very awkward conference call this morning to Chevron HQ in San Ramon :-)

    • #280 by TheMoron on November 7, 2012

      I know what voting NO on W means. Simply put, it means just what it indicates, NO. We don’t want this wonderful gift that Chevron wanted to bestow on our city. No more housing complexes that will stress our infrastructure in Fullerton.

      I as well hope that Mr. Kiger and Mr. Whitaker will do what they said about honoring the wishes of their constituents. As far as Chevron is concerned, this is not over for them. They feel they are above the law and more importantly, the electorate whom they view as little more than a nuisance in their quest for even higher profits. They are not going quietly into the night.

      Get ready for the continuing fight………

      • #281 by The Fullertonista on November 7, 2012

        I hope that when “property rights” aka. rezoning comes up against direct democracy, direct democracy wins.

        And I think that will be the case.

        In any case, huge congrats to Bruce and Travis!

      • #282 by Mark Fuhrman on November 8, 2012

        Nobody wants to throw a number out there I see. Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die…

        Either people have no idea, or they don’t want to talk about it.

        • #283 by nipsey on November 8, 2012

          You put forth a bunch of numbers but I don’t remember you asking for any. Ryan Cantor’s piece has lots of numbers.

          Right now the only number that’s certain is that Chevron will find it easier to get a majority of 5 clowncil members to roll over than it would be to get a majority of actual voters to do so.

          • #284 by Mark Fuhrman on November 9, 2012

            I didn’t ask directly, sorry. I should have been clearer. I feel that OCTA Measure M mitigation funds should be directly spent on transport projects and not land purchases to poison-pill development. That wasn’t the “spirit” of Measure M and now with the redevelopment agencies gone, I think the definition of “mitigation” is going to be twisted to oblivion.

  70. #285 by I Live in Fullerton on November 7, 2012

    I wonder how long FPD Detective Ron Bair beat his head against the wall after he learned Bruce Whitaker was the top vote getter?

    • #286 by Peter Sanchez on November 7, 2012

      Ron Bair – AKA Texting Cry Wolf – now looks small. Well, smaller if that is possible. Fullerton PD will never be on the right track until crookie cops like him go away into the night. Hope he beat some sense into his head. Scum.

      • #287 by Fullerton Lover on November 8, 2012

        Just think that up until a year or two ago, “Detective” Ronald Bair was a full-time “School Resource Officer” at Sunny Hills High School.

        Why do we need a $200,000.00 a year police officer with the intelligence of a hamster patrolling the halls of a high school known for outstanding academic achievement?

        I’m 99% sure that the money that was allocated to pay Detective Bair’s salary was somehow diverted from funds that would’ve helped reduce the class sizes at Sunny Hills, which are currently at 38-40 children per classroom.

        • #288 by Peter Sanchez on November 8, 2012

          Well said good sir.

  71. #289 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

    There’s much more involved than that in any transaction that could happen between Chevron and the City (for example, Chevron’s remediation obligations) but don’t confuse the details of a possible settlement with the intent of the measure.

    Measure W was the result of a referendum sponsored by Save Coyote Hills. The intent is not in question, any more than Chevron’s intent in having W passed was in question.

    • #290 by Mark Fuhrman on November 7, 2012

      It just smacks of “Great Park.” I’d rather see Irvine drown than Fullerton. Thank you for the clarification!

  72. #291 by Assemblyman Chris Norby trails, hopes uncounted ballots turn tide on November 7, 2012

  73. #292 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    SHIMON MENDEL :
    Dear 4 more… The President doesn’t:
    control the price of gas
    our credit rating (point to congress fo that one)
    also-2 wars to 3 wars, where’s the third war?
    Things he did do
    pushed through national health care (very imperfect but a start)
    ended US military presence in Iraq
    saved GM — and a lot of good jobs

    The Obama machine is a desperate power grab, undeniably.

    Oil down 4.59% today, a barometer and leading indicator.

    Economic storm is brewing, S and P downgrade threat, inflation, election disappointed market, “the little guy is the one who suffers”

    GM was an overt Union Giveaway.

    • #293 by Rock Fischer on November 7, 2012

      “Oil down 4.59% today, a barometer and leading indicator.”

      I thought that was a good thing…

      • #294 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

        Not for the future of the markets and economy, there are other reasons too, but a storm is brewing!!! Markets sharply lower without much change in the value of the dollar.

        When the future means more activity, oil will be in higher demand and prices go up.

  74. #295 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

    Oil is going up because of Obama! It’s terrible!

    Oil is going down because of Obama, it’s terrible!

    • #296 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Gas prices doubled.

      Obama is a symptom of a corrupt union funded monster, follow the money it wont lie!!!

      • #297 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

        Oil and coal isnt the only damaged industries.

        Disingenuous lies are inhuman!!!

        • #298 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

          Obama is the epitome and posterboy for a narcissistic personality so was Bush, and not the good kind, they dont feel guilt. Some would say he even has psycopathic tendencies.

          • #299 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

            When a large percentage of Doctors plan to retire early and close their practices, you have one of many Disasters.

            • #300 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

              When are all these doctors planning on retiring, December 32nd?

          • #302 by Geeze on November 7, 2012

            But he is hanging with Jay Z and Beyonce and his wife has a crush on George Clooney…… that more than makes up for being a lame president …. Will Smith is his homeboy.

  75. #303 by karma on November 7, 2012

    I am depressed as a Californian today, but happier than heck to live in Fullerton!

    Congrats Travis, Bruce and Jennifer!

    I am bummed that it looks like SSSSSurname SSSSSSSilva beat Norby but I will take her exit from Fullerton and be happy with that.

    Adios Amiga!

    • #304 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Travis and Flory are still too close, 5:00 PM OC Registrar should update results.

  76. #305 by R.D. on November 7, 2012

    Whatever happened to Larry Bennett? Must be in a locked facility somewhere. :)

    • #306 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

      Benched and maybe promoted with Goodwrench.

      FPD and Civic Center are locked facilities. :)

      • #307 by R.D. on November 7, 2012

        Greg Diamond is next. 5150 because he is a danger to self.

        • #308 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

          Hot dogs go right to his Pumkin.

        • #309 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

          You would know about 5150 RD, wouldn’t you?

        • #310 by Greg Diamond on November 8, 2012

          Actually, I was feeling pretty pleased today. I’m thrilled about SQS’s win and I still think that Flory beats Kiger when all of the ballots are counted.

          • #311 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

            His lead is going up you idiot.

          • #312 by truthseeker on November 8, 2012

            Greg thank you for supporting another fly over democratic hack that will aid and abet the super majority job killing machine in Sacramento. Even a very large local church pastor mentioned her name last Sunday with a twinkle in his eye which actually came as no surprise to me. Lets face it Greg-you are right. Californians cannot think for themselves, feed, house or support ourselves or our children anymore. Thank you Greg for helping us come to the point in the republic of California where the masses will continue to vote for largess from the treasury at the expense of the industrious wealth creators and hard working taxpayers. I love tax increases especially on those that create all of the private sector employment. I was thrilled with Sharon’s list of supporters like planned parenthood who loves our young girls, Dr. Pan who has the hots for our bloodstream with his vaccine bill, and the CTA who so endearingly loves to play chess with our childrens on their game board. Without these wonderful supporters what would the 97% do? Sterility is pleasing, thimerisol, added hormones and adjuvants so stimulating, and the deliberate dumbing down of our children is so highly esteemed by all with test scores going up and IQs tanking. Greg I totally agree with you.The government needs more of our money. They will truly solve all of our problems with taxation, wealth redistribution, vaccines, wars and the desired end result for all-enslavement through poverty. This Republic has been traded in for a Democracy with high miles and no warranty and people like Greg Diamond and his ilk are the not so slick late night lot salesmen that help pen the deal. Fortunately I speak with complete sarcasm in the aforementioned but do assign blame to the mindless idiots that will sell their souls to climb the ladder into the abyss.

  77. #313 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    Stanley Fiala :
    Pacifism is a suicide!

    A goal isnt suicide, going about it in a terrible and self destructive way is.

    Dont you and greg have a thing going between you two, its bad enough I have to see it.

    • #314 by Stanley Fiala on November 7, 2012

      “A goal isnt suicide, going about it in a terrible and self destructive way is”………. Hmmmmmm

      Exactly as I have pointed out at http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/fullerton-vote-kiger-and-whitaker/#comment-137755 above.

      The pacifist Obama will not go into a war for any reason! Even to defend its own!

      • #315 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

        “The pacifist Obama will not go into a war for any reason! Even to defend its own!”

        Ha, someone else just accused him of starting an extra war. Gotta love it.

        I don’t even like Obama but, how does it go, an enemy of my enemy…

  78. #316 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

    30 minutes til vote updates.

  79. #317 by Lifesaving Service on November 7, 2012

    Why All Politicians Lie
    It’s a job qualification.
    Ronald Bailey | November 6, 2012
    http://reason.com/archives/2012/11/06/why-all-politicians-lie

    “Whoever gets elected president today is an accomplished liar. Lying, along with a capacity for backbiting, obfuscation, and double-dealing, are, in fact, actual job qualifications for politicians according to some deep political thinkers….”

    “…Since dishonesty is inherent in electoral politics, perhaps some day disgusted voters will revolt and rein in the size and scope of government. Until that happy day, the only recourse of an appalled citizenry is to throw the current crop of scoundrels out when their lying, obfuscation, and double-dealing become too egregious…” Reason.com

  80. #322 by Peter Sanchez on November 7, 2012

    Fullerton PD on suicide watch for certain. That confirmation’s got to hurt.

  81. #324 by Sick of FPD games on November 7, 2012

    How many more votes could they have to count? At what point do we get to feel confident the results will be final?

    I am scared to mock Flory too hard until I know for sure.

  82. #325 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

    shes now over a hundred votes behind. for her to have a chance they would have to count 500 more ballots which doesn’t seem likely.

    • #326 by Fred Alcazar on November 7, 2012

      No, they would have to count 10,000. Her distance from Travis is too small, basically – .1%, or 1 vote in a hundred between the two of them. And of course each incremental vote would have too go her way.

      Unless there’s some forgotten precinct up on BooHoo Hill that was too senile to turn in their ballots.

    • #327 by Disgusted on November 7, 2012

      More bitter bile to fill the old bag.

  83. #328 by Mary's Kitchen and Pieology Pizza Raise Funds For The Homeless. on November 7, 2012

    Show a flier and 15% of the tab goes to Mary’s Kitchen homeless shelter – Nov 7

    http://thefullertonian.com/Article/Details/733

  84. #329 by election feelings on November 7, 2012

    theres no doubt about it now, it surely is an… Obama-nation.
    ….Stock market tanked today… I wonder if people overseas can see the obvious which we seem to be missing. With Quirk-Silva and others now representing our state in Sacramento they are we are only two shy from legislature having complete control at the 2/3′s needed to overide or block to legislation which would curb the raising of taxes or spending more money. Giving back some of our basic freedoms was nice to see at the local level with the fireworks measure. Thinking of the 800 dollor penalty I will have to pay for not having health insurance makes me feel sick. Why should I have to pay for everybodys coverage when I save up for my own.

    • #330 by nipsey on November 7, 2012

      “Thinking of the 800 dollor penalty I will have to pay for not having health insurance makes me feel sick. Why should I have to pay for everybodys coverage when I save up for my own.”

      Try saving up for insurance.

      • #331 by Anonymous on November 8, 2012

        that may be fine for you so please speak for yourself not for me.

  85. #332 by Tuco Ramirez on November 7, 2012

    Flory will win. The master of Fullerton PD, Andrew Goodwrench says so! He can lie better than any politician. In fact, I see early disability retirement for him from too many of Greg Diamond’s Costco hot dogs and running for city council just like his mentors Don Blankhead and Pat McPublicPension! Keep up the good work Andy!

  86. #333 by runningair on November 7, 2012

    Heard through the grapevine that Pat McKinley showed up at Flory’s victory party last night and proclaimed Jan would receive the HIGHEST number of votes.

    Why? Because according to Pat, she has broad bipartisan support. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • #334 by Fred Alcazar on November 7, 2012

      I will pay $100 US for a picture of McPension and McFlory together!

      • #335 by Fred Alcazar on November 7, 2012

        Of course they have to be physically touching each other.

        • #336 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

          That is not a problem for J. Floozy.

        • #337 by hotdog dave on November 8, 2012

          you would like that, you sick fuck

    • #338 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

      That victory party must have been a veritable infestation of assclowns!!!

      • #339 by Anonymous on November 7, 2012

        Has anyone seen Doctor Jones?

  87. #340 by hotdog dave on November 7, 2012

    Stanley Fiala :
    “you’re a mid east russian sack of shit”…….. Hmmmmm
    FYI, you uneducated moron mongoloid the “mid east” is not the Europe or Russia.
    The white race aka Caucasian race originates in (Caucasus – Kavkas – Kavkasians) from where the most “Caucasian” people of all the Caucasians come from.
    I am not surprised that US elections are such a failure if an idiot like you can vote.
    So I am Caucasian from the Bohemia.

    Tuco Ramirez :
    Flory will win. The master of Fullerton PD, Andrew Goodwrench says so! He can lie better than any politician. In fact, I see early disability retirement for him from too many of Greg Diamond’s Costco hot dogs and running for city council just like his mentors Don Blankhead and Pat McPublicPension! Keep up the good work Andy!

    no you are dirty russian from krygzstan.

    • #341 by Peaches on November 7, 2012

      Nah, he’s an aryan supremacist from an area (Bohemia) of the country formerly known as Czechoslovakia and now (after political separation) a major part of the current Czech Republic – please don’t insult Russians or anyone from their former colonies… I believe Bohemia is also the home of Pilsner (sp?) beer – which he may have been imbibing far too frequently.

      Just wondering why his surname sounds Italian…

      • #342 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

        “Nah, he’s an aryan supremacist from an area (Bohemia)”……… Hmmmmm

        Interesting left liberal racism.

        I am proud to be an aryan, that is if you really understand meaning of aryan and not thinking of Jewish propaganda butchered and offensive meaning.

        I like to play chess and all kind of strategies of that game like sacrifice bishop for a quine to win.

        That is why I have promoted Obama over Romney to win.

        The victory in chess game is mainly based on seeing a mistake of your opponent before he does.

        So when the left liberals are tripping all over themselves to have such a low IQ high charisma cool clown Obama as their leader and I see their mistake before they do, I get adrenalin rush and euphoria.

        I get satisfaction when people get hurt by their own stupidity while refusing an advise.

        It would be meaningless to show to blind person which way to go by pointing a finger in that direction as it is meaningless to show to left liberal that his ideology is wrong even though that there are millions of the historical examples for him to see.

        Same as religion, the left liberal socialism is an opium of masses and you can’t ask junky to take that needle out of his vein.

        So I am exited to observe soon you left liberal morn mongoloids to live your next 4 years in a misery and you Zionists stepping a deep shit hoping that the cool US leader, elected by your Jewish brothers in US, will gave you more than could shoulder.

        Obama’s advise: “Vote for the revenge!”

        • #343 by Gonzo, Esq. on November 8, 2012

          Way to stay on topic, Goebbels. Some of us came here to read about local politics.

          If you want to rant about chess and racism, there are all kinds of forums for crazy people on the internet.

        • #344 by Anonymous on November 8, 2012

          Is this a-hole really going to be back? Please, for the love of everything good and holy, hit the ban button.

        • #345 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

          I should add that if you see — from Fiala — don’t read it!

          It is not for you.
          There are others whites who are victims of the reverse racism and may identify with it.

          • #346 by Stanley the Creep on November 8, 2012

            Stanley is a rabid Jew-hating freak with a thing for Greg Diamond. He was apparently banned here once before and looks like he’s well on his way to being banned again. Besides his insanity and poor grasp of the English language, he is unfunny and ignorant. Greg Diamond seemed to bring him here with him, if only there was some way he could take him away with them. Its like Tweedledum and Tweedledee but one is psychotic while the other is merely unremittingly neurotic.

            • #347 by Fred Alcazar on November 9, 2012

              “…but one is psychotic while the other is merely unremittingly neurotic.”

              Nice summation. We could probably get Dime Bag help from Dr. Rheinhold Ott, but he has no money to pay the bill.

        • #348 by Stanley Fiala on November 9, 2012

          Well as long as you read my ESL bullshit it probably cuts close to the bone!

          Obama’s advise: “Vote for the revenge!”

          • #349 by Mark Fuhrman on November 9, 2012

            Stanley is a lot better read than some of the Police Officers who post on here. Stanley gets a pass, he grew up socialist. The FPOA on the other hand knowingly and willfully resorts to the Stalin/Beria/Dzerzhinsky playbook.

            Most don’t get Stanley’s humor. I happened to live in Prague from 2005-2007 working for a company called AAA Auto. They are kind of like the CarMax of Central Europe. I got a chance to immerse in that culture. Half the country has Stanley’s sense of humor, and it can be pretty funny. As far as anti-semitism goes, I’m more worried about the Middle East right now.

            I happen to like a lot of sarcasm with my humor.

            • #350 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

              Except Stanley’s posts are clearly racist and anti-Semetic. Nobody should get a pass on that. Clearly the portion of his posts intended to be sarcastic and humorous are not the portions that people are complaining about. I “get” his intent just fine. It’s malicious and hateful.

              Nobody should “get a pass” on racism, regardless of their upbringing. Nobody should defend his racism. It’s his First Amendment right to assert is idiotic views here, but it’s disturbing that anyone would try to defend him on it or justify it in any way, shape, or form.

              • #351 by Anonymous on November 9, 2012

                Agreed. Ban the Nazi bastard. No good comes from tolerating that idiot.

                • #352 by Mark Fuhrman on November 9, 2012

                  He’s not a Nazi and don’t think for a second that the Nazi’s cornered the market on antisemitism. They exploited antisemitism that already existed.

                • #353 by Anonymous on November 9, 2012

                  Well, we’re gonna have to agree to disagree. He’s a Nazi for plenty of reasons– the least of which is the damn red arm band he wears.

              • #354 by Mark Fuhrman on November 9, 2012

                Everybody has good and bad in them. CCCB, you had to have been over there to understand. It’s pretty difficult to un-do 1500+ years of thinking. BTW, I think that the un-spoken American WASP-branded, “I don’t want a Jew in my Country Club,” antisemitism is way more insidious than Stanley Fiala waxing nostalgically about the days of the Pogroms.

                CCCB, you should know that we are actually headed towards the Soviet-brand of Socialism, not the Fox News pundit brand of Socialism.

                • #355 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

                  No, it’s not hard to undo that way of thinking.

                  My father would be considered a Jew hating, nigger hating, fag hating, (all his words, BTW) all minority hating, intolerant Fox News addicted bigot that used to be pretty common in OC, and to a certain extent still is with the elderly. With time I grew to realize just how messed up his thinking was, and yet I was able to overcome what used to be ingrained racism as a result of indoctrination by my father.

                  There’s just no excuse for it. It’s that way of thinking, as well as the failure of the meek to call people out on it, that fuels so much of the fringe right wing who would like to see black people banished from the country, all “Mexicans” returned to Mexico, the creation of a “white state” for the true proper “superior race”, etc., and also fosters the formation of homegrown nationalist terrorists like Timothy McVeigh.

                  Fuck racism, and fuck all the people who stay quiet about it. And, yes, I’m a white male raised in what used to be a homogenously white OC.

        • #356 by truthseeker on November 9, 2012

          I am not a card carrying leftist and as a matter of fact I don’t buy into the false left right paradigm. It is either freedom or slavery.To divide and conquer via racism and class warfare is merely a means to an end for the control freaks. You should know that. Racism is not in our DNA. The ability to differentiate between races and species is a cognitive function. Hate is innate in all that have been blinded by lucifer. We all have red and blue blood depending upon the oxygen content and 75000 miles of circulatory system that transports the plasma around our bodies in the same fashion. Europe is replete with the relics of failed attempts to subjugate the masses by appealing to barbaric tendencies deeply rooted in occultism. The light is there if you care to gaze into it. We are all created in God’s image Stanley. Continued emanation of vitriol releases bad endorphins that will exacerbate the chronic metabolic deficiencies of nitrilosides in your diet that lead to carcinomas. It is all preventable. Take a deep breath and relax. It is never too late to do the right thing.

      • #357 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

        How about hitting button on the Peaches, all these Onanymous and Gonzo the Esq.?

        O’ No!

        The reverse racism is OK!…….. Huh?

        These bolshevik pigs are good for the society.

  88. #358 by Sorry, you're wrong! on November 7, 2012

    “I do not think he is going to have a problem with challengers, his is an easy win.”

  89. #359 by Stanley Fiala on November 8, 2012

    Grog Durrmend :
    I occupied a walmart today.

    What a psycho?
    Did you shit on cars too?

  90. #360 by election thoughts on November 8, 2012

    ….they say Romney lost because although he played it safe.He had the momentem toward the end of his campain but he didn’t adress any controversial subjects riding on the success of his first debate.
    The reasons our recall candidates did get elected again is because they did not play it safe. They took the risky moves. Puting measure for fireworks the first thing on the city agenda was a risky move as it .Asking for a sherriff department survey for a cost comparison was a risky move. Sending funds back to the state that would not be wisely used for the purpose it was intended for. All these moves could be easily misconstrued to the public to appear in a complete differnet way than it was orriginaly intended. The voter appreciates that they think for themselves and are not puppets.The voter saw and voted for character this time and not fake appearance or posturing.

  91. #361 by Hampton hits the streets... on November 8, 2012

    • #362 by JOHN DOE on November 8, 2012

      That is not Hampton dummy.

    • #363 by Cop Logic on November 8, 2012

      Surprised hes back out on the streets. I guess he did no wrong. Doh.

      • #364 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

        That’s not Hampton.

        • #365 by hotdog dave on November 8, 2012

          yes it is GED

          • #366 by JOHN DOE on November 8, 2012

            Ok Einstein!

            • #367 by hotdog dave on November 9, 2012

              jd you couldn’t afford a GED

              • #368 by JOHN DOE on November 9, 2012

                Whatever ..It wasnt Hampton, so stop sounding stupid.

                • #369 by Anonymous on November 9, 2012

                  was so

  92. #370 by Anonymous on November 8, 2012

    Stanley Fiala :
    “A goal isnt suicide, going about it in a terrible and self destructive way is”………. Hmmmmmm
    Exactly as I have pointed out at http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/fullerton-vote-kiger-and-whitaker/#comment-137755 above.
    The pacifist Obama will not go into a war for any reason! Even to defend its own!

    stan your photoshop skills are quite awesome.
    click on wacko stans name for a good laugh

  93. #371 by runningair on November 8, 2012

    http://www.ocvote.com/results/left-to-count/

    They still have 9556 ballots from Fullerton left to count.

  94. #372 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

    R.D. :
    CCCB: Judge killing bastard has the same ring. What kind of cop would use such a disgusting name of CCCB? Unless you’re the one who licks the cop balls at FPD.

    I’ve asked you before, RD. What is so disgusting/offensive about my chosen screen name? I’d honestly like an explanation from you.

    • #373 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

      Also, I don’t get the “judge killing bastard” comment, either. Just sayin…..you make no sense.

      • #374 by R.D. on November 8, 2012

        CCCB: Everyone but your understands. Only a bad cop would use a name like that. Are there any good cops left at FPD? None of them post here. Only the bad ones.

        • #375 by JOHN DOE on November 8, 2012

          Who is everyone? Retards like you?

        • #376 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

          Objection. Non-responsive.

      • #377 by Peter Sanchez on November 8, 2012

        Cop with a Bachelor’s degree schooling a blog comment about not making sense. How about you put your degree to good use: SOLVE CRIMES??? Not correct grammar like a douche!!!!

        • #378 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 8, 2012

          There’s a difference between correcting grammar and trying to make sense of the ravings of a lunatic.

  95. #379 by R.D. on November 8, 2012

    TRAVIS KIGER 10,864 11.7%
    JAN M. FLORY 10,758 11.6%

  96. #380 by CITY OF FULLERTON Member, City Council on November 8, 2012

    TRAVIS KIGER 10,864 11.7%
    JAN M. FLORY 10,758 11.6%

  97. #381 by hotdog dave on November 8, 2012

    Greg Diamond :
    Thanks for saving me the trouble of explaining to you how elections work.

    Anonymous :
    greg takes donations, greg don’t spend donations on campaign. greg does buy 10,000 hotdogs at costco, oh and few rolls of tp.
    THAT’S HOW ELECTIONS WORK

  98. #382 by hotdog dave on November 8, 2012

    hotdog dave :

    Greg Diamond :
    Thanks for saving me the trouble of explaining to you how elections work.

    Anonymous :
    greg takes donations, greg don’t spend donations on campaign. greg does buy 10,000 hotdogs at costco, oh and few rolls of tp.
    THAT’S HOW ELECTIONS WORK

  99. #383 by One for the books on November 8, 2012

    Government is a broker in pillage…and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods. — H.L. Mencken

  100. #384 by anonymous on November 8, 2012

    Why does it have to be so close! Glad Kiger is ahead but it being only 106 votes and over 8k left to go doesn’t make it easy.

  101. #385 by More FPD drama on November 8, 2012

    What was on channel 9 about Fullerton Police tonight? About 2 hrs ago, but missed it, just caught a sight of it.

    Also, some or all three officers are back on the streets or is that just trolling?

    • #386 by R.D. on November 8, 2012

      More FPD drama: Twins that got away last week, burglarized a home and were wanted by FPD. FPD said: “Turn yourselves in before someone get hurt”. Hopefully, they’re not confronted by 6 cops.

      • #387 by More FPD drama on November 8, 2012

        Thanks RD. Know any details on which if any of the three are back on the streets?

      • #388 by Peaches on November 8, 2012

        I believe that happened this week – not last week; my cousin lives about 3 blocks from the home where a family was held hostage for several hours and called to tell me not to come visit for lunch as planned

  102. #389 by MICKEY HALLER on November 8, 2012

    They are probably related.

  103. #390 by State Assembly District 65 on November 8, 2012

    Sharon Quirk-Silva 54,925 50.6%
    Chris Norby 53,688 49.4%

    http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-assembly/district/65/

  104. #391 by Brandon on November 9, 2012

    So now that Kiger and Whittaker have been elected are they going to finish taking out “the trash” in Fullerton? I just want to know if it’s going to be a safe place to get pulled over if I ever drive through there.

  105. #392 by FTP on November 9, 2012

    LARGE AND NOT IN CHARGE….

  106. #393 by Stanley Fiala on November 9, 2012

    Greg Diamond :
    Oh, Bax — is this your first Fiala encounter? Why do you think he’s not at OJB? (Well, we currently let him in when he’s not in the mode you see here.)

    Notwithstanding the above Golem’s crapola, the main reason why I am not at the OJB is because I have learn that the owner of the OJB Vern Nelson aka Gröfaz is convicted felon!

    Furthermore, I have learned that the Esq. Greg Diamond aka Golem is aiding and abetting convicted felon Gröfaz, to terrorize neighborhoods by occupying and vandalizing it, where some occupiers actually shitting on the vehicles as seen on many videos in front of children.

    Therefore, I have put myself into a voluntary Exile from the OJB because a combination of a lawyer and convicted felon, both bolshevik’s and left liberal extremists, is bad news for anyone to associate with — including me.

    Occasionally, I do comment at OJB under the pseudonym “From The Exile” when their national socialist (NAZI) anti-gentile hate speech becomes too offensive.

    So now you know the rest of the story.

  107. #394 by One for the books on November 9, 2012

    Final election results?

  108. #395 by a non mem on November 9, 2012

    Cold Chillin’ Cops Balls :No, it’s not hard to undo that way of thinking.
    My father would be considered a Jew hating, nigger hating, fag hating, (all his words, BTW) all minority hating, intolerant Fox News addicted bigot that used to be pretty common in OC, and to a certain extent still is with the elderly. With time I grew to realize just how messed up his thinking was, and yet I was able to overcome what used to be ingrained racism as a result of indoctrination by my father.
    There’s just no excuse for it. It’s that way of thinking, as well as the failure of the meek to call people out on it, that fuels so much of the fringe right wing who would like to see black people banished from the country, all “Mexicans” returned to Mexico, the creation of a “white state” for the true proper “superior race”, etc., and also fosters the formation of homegrown nationalist terrorists like Timothy McVeigh.
    Fuck racism, and fuck all the people who stay quiet about it. And, yes, I’m a white male raised in what used to be a homogenously white OC.

    That is refreshing to hear…I don’t think you are a bad cop, I think many times your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek.

    • #396 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

      Yes, sometimes it is, but usually there’s a point to my posts.

      Clearly racism is a subject I am passionate about and have no tolerance for. Nothing whatsoever in that post that I wasn’t 100% serious about.

      Racism and hate exists to some extent in all races and it’s just stupid and infuriating.

      • #397 by truthseeker on November 9, 2012

        Racism is also a balkanization tool widely utilized throughout history by elitists to take the populations’ eyes off of the ball as they close the walls in on them. No different here in 21st century Amerika with the exception of the news outlets, idiot box, and talk radio all spewing the crap 24/7 all run by 5 corporations. It is a shame that people fall for it. They try to make it funny with Archie Bunker and 35 years later it still isn’t funny.

        • #398 by Stanley Fiala on November 9, 2012

          “They try to make it funny with Archie Bunker and 35 years later it still isn’t funny”………. Hmmmmm

          What an idiotic leftist crapola truthseeker!….. racism shouldn’t be funny!

          Racism is essential genetic element for a survive of a race.

          Once your race loses that call it will extinguish it self as it was the case many time in the history of the world. Many races extinguish like the first Mayas.

          Racism is genetically embedded in us and it is a part of the DNA structure. That is why different races look differently, so they can identify an enemy to kill.

          Same as you are willing to fight for your country, as an extended race colony, you are essentially fighting for your race. If your country will become corrupted by other race which will start dominate the country, the country will resort to an ethic cleansing. It happens everyday around the world and it goes mostly unreported.

          The USA was an exception to that rule by way of the constitutional equality.

          It was working perfectly until the leftists start racial preferences by way of affirmative action, redistribution of the wealth and hundreds of other racist programs in the violation of the constitution.

          Remember that every living organism must occupy space and consume energy other than its own.

          Without that genetic principle there is no possible any life on the earth even ameba can’t exist.

          The only left liberals and some other idiots who do not understand creation/evolution try to change the unchangeable and that is why we have wars.

          Since we have abandoned the constitutional equality we to will soon resort to an ethnic cleansing.

          The Jews, Arabs and Mexicans will win and whites will be eliminated since they lost their will to fight for themselves. Then Jews, Arabs and Mexicans will continue among themselves.

          Nothing will change it!

  109. #399 by Tuco Ramirez on November 9, 2012

    Is there anyone on this blog who knows who it takes so long to count provisional ballots and mail in ballots. I mailed my ballot in the day I received it in the mail blank, so I filled it out and mailed it in 3 weeks or so before the election. Now they say (OC Board of elections) that it will take days (actually a full week or so) to count these ballots that they have had for weeks.
    Is that the election law or is it just the bureaucracy that stinks?

    • #400 by Cold Chillin' Cops Balls on November 9, 2012

      There were about 450,000 vote by mail ballots cast, about the same number as voted in person. Takes time. Envelopes need to be opened. Information (signatures, addresses) needs to be verified. Not just a matter of running them all through a scanning machine.

      I think they do amazingly well, all things considered. I heard two weeks to count them all.

    • #401 by Ryan Cantor on November 9, 2012

      If you mailed your ballot 3 weeks early, it was included in the 8:05pm result posting on election night. The items currently being counted are ballots that arrived Monday and Tuesday, mail-in ballots returned to the polls (over 100,000 believe it or not) and provisional ballots.

    • #402 by Lifesaving Service on November 9, 2012

      What’s Left to Count by District

      District: Anaheim

      Vote-by-Mails left: 9,742

      Provisionals left: 7,886

      Total left: 17,628

      Last updated: November 8, 2012 5:30 PM
      http://www.ocvote.com/results/left-to-count/

  110. #403 by Johnathan Reese on November 9, 2012

    Where did the Bloggers and Commenters go?

    Other than the annoying ones!

  111. #404 by R.D. on November 9, 2012

    Today’s update:

    TRAVIS KIGER 11,729 11.7%
    JAN M. FLORY 11,596 11.6%

  112. #405 by CITY OF FULLERTON Member, City Council on November 9, 2012

    TRAVIS KIGER 11,729 11.7%
    JAN M. FLORY 11,596 11.6%

  113. #406 by The Eye on November 8, 2012

    Love you FFFFs find any black cop and lynch him….. Shit howdy lets get the black one!!!!

    “Hampton hits the streets…” pick a username and stick with it. Replying to your own post as “Good to go” gives the impression that you are two different people which is clearly not the case.

  114. #407 by Good to go on November 8, 2012

    I did not post anything before today. Just pointing out how racist you slugs are.

  115. #408 by Fred Alcazar on November 8, 2012

    What are you talking about?

  116. #409 by The Eye on November 8, 2012

    I did not post anything before today.

    Well, that was my point. You made this misleading post today then responded to it under a different user name.

    This is very dishonest and underhanded.

    Just pointing out how racist you slugs are.

    Why is FFFF racist for a misleading race-baiting post that you made?

  117. #410 by R.D. on November 8, 2012

    TRAVIS KIGER 10,864 11.7%
    JAN M. FLOOSY 10,758 11.6%

    Have another drink Floosy.

  118. #411 by hotdog dave on November 8, 2012

    why all blacks look alike

  119. #412 by Johnathan Reese on November 8, 2012

    What’s Left to Count by District

    District: Fullerton

    Vote-by-Mails left: 4,626

    Provisionals left: 3,608

    Total left: 8,234

    Last updated: November 8, 2012 5:30 PM

    ORANGE COUNTY REGISTRAR OF VOTERS
    http://www.ocvote.com/results/whats-left-to-count/left-by-district-results/

  120. #413 by Card Reader on November 8, 2012

    Here is another example of RD’s work. Real classy council member kiger to block some but to allow this productive member of the Fullerton community to posts all of his rants

  121. #414 by fullerton native on November 8, 2012

    I believe he only thing being blocked is what you refuse to see, the truth. It seems like most of the classless posts have been coming from the direction of the ” fullertonpolice department union . I’m surprised that most of those posts many with obsenities are not being blocked.

  122. #415 by Johnathan Reese on November 9, 2012

    Anybody know of any other places you can go without trolls and Diamonds groupies???

  123. #416 by Johnathan Reese on November 9, 2012

    Is FullertonStories any good?

  124. #417 by Stanley Fiala on November 9, 2012

    “any other places you can go without trolls”……… Hmmmmmm

    Go to any place which has no Johnathan Reese commenting.

  125. #418 by More FPD drama on November 9, 2012

    No. Run by the type that are causing the trouble in our city. You won’t get truth there.

  126. #419 by Johnathan Reese on November 9, 2012

    Where did the Bloggers and Commenters go?

    Other than the annoying ones!

  127. #420 by R.D. on November 9, 2012

    TRAVIS KIGER 11,729 11.7%
    JAN M. FLORY 11,596 11.6%

  128. #421 by Johnathan Reese on November 9, 2012

    What’s Left to Count by District

    District: Fullerton

    Vote-by-Mails left: 1,958

    Provisionals left: 3,608

    Total left: 5,566

    Last updated: November 9, 2012 5:18 PM

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