On the Agenda – December 20, 2011

Hang on to your common sense- you may need to share some at the upcoming City Council meeting.

Here is a brief look at what the City will be looking at on Tuesday’s agenda.

Rusty Kennedy will be there to justify his job as the head of OC Human Relations plus there will be presentations to the Boys & Girls Club and CalGRIP.

In Closed Session the Council will be discussing various pending litigations, police/fire management labor negotiations, and the condemnation of 201 East Bastanchury for the widening of Bastanchury.

The consent calendar is full of baffling buffoonery.

Item 2 looks to give City Manager Joe Felz a contract and full salary of $212,000 per year.  He gets lots of perks as well like a one year severance, City-owned car, no benchmarks for success, and future raises tied to the raises of his subordinates.  That’s just goofy, not to mention poorly timed.

Item 3 is the Group Insurance Program contract renewal.  The premiums, as expected, are going up but staff wants you to think this is ok because they aren’t going up as much as they thought they would which looks on paper like savings.  The City should do like most employers and place a cap on the employer contribution in the form of a fixed dollar amount, not a percentage.  For Pete’s sake, isn’t there one person in City Hall who gives a rat’s ass about the taxpayers?

Item 4 is ends a special tax in Amerige Heights but then in item 14, the City looks to impose another tax on Amerige Heights.  The City just loves to tax.

Item 5 will cause most eyes to glaze over.  The Measure M2 Expenditure Report tries to show where the money went -or more aptly stated- where it didn’t go.

Item 6 is a request from the City to the Orange County Transportation Authority.  City staff would like to enclose the Brea Creek Channel in front of Hillcrest Park and create an additional northbound lane on Harbor Blvd from Berkley to Brea Blvd.   The total cost is estimated at $2,850,060.

Item 7 is a contract award for elevator design for the pedestrian overpass at the Transportation Center.

Item 8: The City will accept a 26 year old offer of dedication for right-of-way along State College at the BNSF railroad crossing and grade separation.

Item 9 is an approval to build room additions at the Airport.  On a side note, why do they always go low-bid?  The lowest bidder is often lowest because they do not understand what is involved and how to deliver the quality needed.

Next up, item 10 is a service agreement for the Richman sewer replacement from Commonwealth to Fullerton Creek and then to Woods Avenue.  The design and preparation of plans is estimated to cost $132,869.

A slew of parking restrictions fall under items 11 through 13.  They include no parking on Arroyo, 20-minute parking on Euclid, and early morning restrictions along Wilshire Avenue.

As previously mentioned, item 14 is a Mello-Roos tax in Amerige Heights. Expect Councilman Bruce Whitaker to vote NO!

Amerige Court is back with another amendment to the development agreement on item 15.  This will give the developer another 2 years to get their act together.  Thank the Fullerton Redevelopment Agency.

Item 16 is the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between the City of Fullerton (a.k.a. YOU) and the Fullerton Management Association (a.k.a. middle management and upper management).  They get the same basic package as the other employees: reinstated pay, 7% contribution to their pension, and lots of holidays off.

Item 17 is the resolution that gives department heads the same basic package as the other employees: reinstated pay, 7% contribution to their pension, and lots of holidays off.

Item 18 seeks to merge Engineering and Maintenance Services which will save about $300,000.  This will formalize Engineering Director Don Hoppe’s promotion to Public Works Director.  Considering what Hoppe has done with our roads, one can only hope we aren’t being penny wise and pound foolish.

Item 19 is an overhaul of West Fullerton.  It scraps old bus benches and targets vandalism and lighting.  These issues have been brought up more than a few times at community meetings.

Item 20 is a request for federal funding for affordable housing and City-administered welfare programs.  Among those receiving money, Code Enforcement (a.k.a. Community Preservation) looks to receive $337,500.  A relatively small amount, $150,600, will go to cover “public service activities” like Nutrition Services Program ($5,000), Boys and Girls Club After School Program and the Club’s Youth Gang Prevention ($44,000), Long Term Care Ombudsman Service ($17,200), Fullerton Fair Housing Services ($20,000), New Vista Shelter Life Skills Training ($9,600), Meals on Wheels home delivery ($30,800), Cold Weather Armory Shelter ($8,000), Women’s Transitional Living Center Shelter Program ($8,000), and the YMCA’s Richman Center Youth Achievers ($8,000).

92 Replies to “On the Agenda – December 20, 2011”

  1. Dear All,
    Item #8 is a long time in coming. When the original Recalls Committee was battling the proliferation of underpasses downtown back in the middle 1990s, we asked why the Highland Underpass was more important than an underpass on State College. No answer, of course.

    It turned out, that it had to do with eventual implementation of Metro-Link, which was concealed from much public awareness. Metro-Link at that time only went down through Anaheim, and not on the line towards Riverside.

    The Highland Underpass was made possible because of a federal ISTEA grant — Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act. Grade separations are a big deal under the Act; but so are connections between various carriers: train to bus; plane to bus; airplane to light-rail-train at LAX; etc.

    I looked at the agenda discussion, and I could not find any reference to a planned underpass. Obviously, one is planned. I don’t follow Fullerton’s doings carefully, and so doubtless I missed the earlier mention of it. In the meantime, can someone tell me what the expected budget is, and its allocation among funding-sources? Will there be a federal grant? Will Measure M provide any help? Will Measure M provide the “matching fund” component for the federal grant, which the RDA could not provide back in the middle 1990s, since the project was outside of the RDA “plan area”?

    As Sam Sparacio used to say: “Rome is known for its many beautiful fountains. Fullerton will be known for its many beautiful underpasses.”
    Best wishes, WSH

  2. #6 is a typical engineering land grab. Right now the Break Creek is a open space buffer between Hillcrest Park and Harbor Boulevard. It is undoubtedly part of the park, and an important one at that. Boxing in the channel will be expensive and eliminate park space.

    Since Hillcrest park is an official Fullerton landmark this needs to go before the Landmarks Commission for approval. Will it? Any bets?

    This is an easy no vote. Watch them go for it.

  3. I used to the handle health insurance when I was an officer manager eeons ago, so I looked at this agenda item more closely than the others. I know that premiums go up whether we like it or not. The city does have the choice though to shop around and not keep a provider simply because they’ve had them since 1962. Many companies will authorize their broker to shop around. Did the city do that, or simply accept status quo?

    Now I didn’t get from the staff report that they were saying, “YAHOO! PREMIUMS AREN’T AS HIGH AS THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE! WE ROCK!” It’s simply a fact.

    I think the real issue with health insurance premiums and what the city has to pay is in the unions. I’m really simplifying this, but get rid of them and tell the employees what they have to pay for insurance each month.

    I like that you’re talking about agenda items for council meetings. Can you do this every 2 weeks?

    1. I try to do it every 2 weeks but it is time consuming. Maybe just posting the Agenda without my biases would suffice.

  4. Under item 14, there is “Fair Housing services” for 20,000. I assume this is the Fair Housing Council…if so, they are a bigger scam than Rusty Kennedy’s OC human relations. They encourage tenants from sub-standard housing to call in and complain, then if they have enough complaints they go to the slumlord and say, take our “manager training” at 5000.00 per staff person for 5 years or we will sue you. In exchange they agree to ignore the consumer fraud and discrimination taking place at the apartment complex. They give the names of tenants who have complained and continue to complain to the slumlord. And your tax dollars pay for it…Fair Housing Council, OCCCO, all one in the same phony non-profits that make a lot of money by screwing poor people.
    I LOVED it when Bruce Whitaker called that homeless panel a top down group…I had talked to the organizer from OCCCO two years earlier, she had no interest what so ever in doing anything in Fullerton…she came into Fullerton in 2008 and put the Kibosh on the existing OCCCO local committee , that was working on sub-standard housing, because that actually involved work. She is a total snob, who made it clear she thought she was too good to work with low-income tenants. And now that the spot light is on , she is suddenly interested in working in Fullerton on a homeless committee. What a fraud!!

    1. Ken, do you remember the court case where a man living in Newport Beach wanted to rent out the small house behind his own house only to one person or a couple without children because the rental only had one bedroom and one bathroom? fair housing used their legal authority and our tax dollars to mercilessly punish this man for daring to say he did not believe it appropriate for children to be crammed into small living areas.
      first, fair housing immediately demanded $5000 from this man in exchange for their training sessions on fair housing laws. the woman who was the attorney strong-arming this man had been a legal secretary who went on to get her law degree at a 4th tier law school, strictly speaking she bought her law degree.
      the victim in this scam, the Newport beach man, legally fought back. He spent over $30000 in legal fees to defend his constitutional right to enjoy his personal property.
      My point in telling this incident is to highlight how petty bureaucrats with bogus knowledge are given so much power via our tax dollars from our elected officials who don’t uphold our laws . Jones,Bankhead and now McKinley go through the motions to appear they care about all their constituents by continuing to fund “politically correct” commissions,agencies and task forces,when in fact they are preoccupied with using our tax dollars to make surreptitious deals that makes money for them and their cronies.
      It cost one man’s brave stance $30000, however, this man should not have stood alone in his fight for his property. Where was the public outcry against this form of government persecution? I pray tonight that voter apathy does not allow these petty evils,Jones,Bankhead and McKinley, to continue playing on our apathy and allow them to fund these commissions that do more harm than good for us, the good people of Fullerton.

      1. “Jones,Bankhead and now McKinley go through the motions to appear they care about all their constituents by continuing to fund “politically correct” commissions,agencies and task forces, when in fact they are preoccupied with using our tax dollars to make surreptitious deals that makes money for them and their cronies.”

        Again, you hit the proverbial nail on the head.

        1. I thank you, Jane for your support of my comments. Until the FFFF website, I believed I was the voice in the wilderness. the growing popularity of the FFFF website proves a majority of people are disgusted by our town’s lack of representative government , it’s rampant cronyism, it’s misuse of our tax dollars and the outsourcing of our city council’s conscience,morals and ethics to equally money-grubbing, self-serving commissions, task forces and agencies.

          1. Not only do I feel moral outrage about Fullerton’s corruption, I get a bit of a vicarious thrill watching the incompetents finally being forced to take some responsibility for their misconduct.

            I wish we could add a few more supervisors to LA County (ballot measure failed), simply because as it is, they have amassed too much power and money, have too many years in office and obviously feel no need to be accountable to the people in the unincorporated areas of LA Co.

            I always vote, by the way.

  5. The cop kissers and anti-recall dolts will be there in full force now that they know you have to sit there and take it, thanks to her highness.

    If you as much as cough or speak ill of council people like McKinley, Commander Silva will have the fine officers at Fullerton PD drag you out.

    Bring cameras and keep them on and ready just in case also remember that Queen Quirk and Pat McGroin are peas in a pod.

  6. “Fullerton Fair Housing Services ($20,000),” is it the norm for most OC cities to have their own separate fair housing agency. The OC has a fair housing agency, so why replication of services?

    1. I could be wrong, but my recollection is that Fullerton Fair Housing was first in the late 1960’s and that OC Fair Housing sprang from that.

      The again, Van often accuses me of basing my opinions on a few recollections from the 60’s.

      1. And your point is let’s fund both because one started before the other one? I accuse you of being a Schiller for your cousins ,Rusty and Sharon Kennedy.

        1. Omit Schiller,I was watching TV and heard this name and unconsciously typed it. Steve Brow, I accuse you of supporting two reprobates becau they are members of your family.

          1. “The voices of Ralph and Natalie Kennedy are also heard. They were right there on the firing line helping their minority brothers and sisters obtain equality in the housing market. They were founders of the Fullerton Fair Housing Council and the Fullerton Observer, a local newspaper that is still in production with daughter Sharon Kennedy as editor. Their son Rusty was president of the Orange County Fair Housing Council for many years and was a member of the panel discussion on May 4 at the Nikkei Museum.”

            http://www.precinctreporter.com/community/orange-county/2298-fullerton-arboretum-hosts-civil-rights-exhibit

            1. Ironic the word “Fair” and “Kennedy” are uttered so many times in one paragraph. The Kennedy’s are anything but fair.

            2. Ralph Kennedy ran for Fullerton city council in the 1970’s. Days before the election,it was revealed that Ralph and Natalie Kennedy engaged in voter registration fraud by having family members and their friends who did not live in Fullerton use their address,1031 N Richman Ave,Fullerton, and vote by absentee ballot.
              I highly doubt Ralph and Natalie Kennedy were political activists in the 1950’s and 1960’s and ended segregation in Fullerton. I do believe Ralph and Natalie lied about their accomplishments to gain credibility for themselves and their family members

  7. It is my understanding all cities are required to either have their own Fair Housing or use another organization, and most cities use Orange County Fair Housing Council….to see what a lousy organization they are just do a search in the oc register on them…you know your dealing with a bad organization when the oc register runs bad pieces on it.

    1. In all fairness they decided to blow all their budget on themselves instead of giving the OC Register a piece of the action …thus the bad reports 🙂

  8. Joe Felz has done a bang-up job running the most embarassing city government in California. He definately earned that raise, the same way he earned the job in the first place.

  9. Joe Furrz :
    Do you notice now that the Kelly incident is in the past, city council and the leaders treat FFFF like any other kookoo group?
    You yell and scream now and it goes in one ear and out the other.
    They could care less what you say. Just like any other public comment time, give your rant, and onto the next one.
    I heard today they know you are struggling with your signatures and that due to the duplicate and unapproved signatures that are the norm, you won’t even get the signatures required for another 6 months minimum.
    I think they are laughing in your face. You better get out from behind that computer screen and start showing those balls in public.
    Maybe Tony should just come out of the closet and admit this is the political agenda he has always desired? Hiding it will only make it worse as time goes on. This is a two man political dog and pony show and due to that this attempt to rid 3 people for political purposes is failing.
    Step up FFFF. Now or never. In ear and out the other is going to bury you soon.

    The three City Councilman, like you, are in denial of the reality that 95% of the electorate do not like them, or think their time has come, and are actively seeking to eradicate the vermin infestation before they can do further harm.

  10. Tuco says…..
    The three blind mice hope Joe Furrz is correct. But he isn’t! It is not easy to get signatures on a recall petition because just like 80% of the electorate does not show up to vote in a local election, so too with signing recall petitions.
    The three blind turds know this and hope the recall does not go through. HOWEVER, once again they are wrong and just hoping and praying that Dick Ackerman of Irvine will bail them out once again and they can ferret more sweetheart contracts to him.
    Fullerton is in a sad situation.

    1. No, Fullerton is in a good situation! Within 2 weeks, submission of signatures! Then we clear out the “sclerotic gerontocracy.”

        1. I wish I could take credit for that. Kudos to Jan Flory’s Dog, the most eloquent mutt in Doggie Heaven.

          1. By the way, I’m sure there is a significance to the “Jan Flory’s Dog” moniker. Can somebody fill me in?

  11. Regarding Item 6:

    Between Valley View and Berkeley, the creek runs to the east of Jack in the Box and the Chevron station and the dry cleaner’s. They can’t simply enclose it and use that space to widen Harbor Blvd.

    Does this mean Jack in the Box and the Chevron station will be the next victims of eminent domain and some BS redevelopment project once the street project is complete?

    1. VD, I believe what they are contemplating is creating a concrete box culvert along Harbor in the front of Hillcrest Park where there is no bottom or sides. This would facilitate a dedicated turn onto Brea.

      Something like this with shoring and a four-sided culvert would cost a million bucks and cut into the park. It’s not needed. Oh right! OCTA. It’s funny money!

      1. P.S. lest anyone think I’m joking, the culvert would be built to handle a hundred year flood – at least twice as wide as the current channelization of Brea Creek through Fullerton. Throw in a sidewalk and you’re talking a 40-50 ft encroachment.

        Of course the Council will be told it’s man-datory and there will be not a peep from the lefty park lovers.

      2. I believe the agenda documents are saying the new lane would extend down to Berkeley, well past Hillcrest Park.

        Whatever that business is north of Jack in the Box would be encroached upon and it appears Jack in the Box and Chevron might be too. I was under the impression that gas pumps have to be set back from the street a certain distance in the event of a car accident jumping the sidewalk.

        Talk a look at a satellite photo (i.e. Google Maps) and tell me what you think.

        1. It would be hard to believe they are planning a diversion lane of traffic all the way to Berkeley. That part of the channel was enclosed by the WPA in 1940 but the walls are not designed to carry a concrete lid, let alone traffic.

          Guess I’ll have to check out the whole thing.

        2. I believe the widening is for Harbor only from Berkeley to Brea Blvd., including boxing in the creek in front of Hillcrest Park.

          Vote No.

          1. No argument there, my question is regarding the businesses at the NE corner of Harbor and Berkeley. Can the Chevron and Jack-in-the-Box remain untouched in their current locations?

              1. I can see this turning into a redevelopment scam. Some bureaucrat decides Chevron doesn’t have enough space for a gas station. Jack in the Box is already crammed in there with no extra space. Before you know it, the whole corner is declared blighted and we have some damn Starbucks taking its place…

                Lest I forget, OCTA is probably the most corrupt and fiscally irresponsible agency in Orange County.

                1. The streets are falling apart, who knows whats going on underneath em, there is mosquito puddles on them, this is totally wrong.

                  200 Million Dollars behind in infastructure, and all the big companies fleeing.

                  Makes the city of Bell look good, I feel like a refugee.

  12. Don’t let Sharon Quirk-Silva or any other council member push you around or bully you. If it happened in Florida it can happen to you too.

    Video: Father Nathan Monk at Pensacola City Council

    Story: Council urges civility, threatens priest with police removal

    Father Monk chided the council members — and Council President Sam Hall in particular — for their actions at Monday’s Committee of the Whole meeting. At that meeting, several citizens had spoken in opposition to the proposed anti-homeless ordinances, and in doing so made unflattering comparisons to historical figures (one person mentioned Heinrich Himmler’s “Final Solution“) and questioned the Christian charity of any council member who would support the ordinances. Council members DeWeese and Johnson took offense at the accusations, and Hall had asked Police Chief Chip Simmons to remove several speakers he deemed “out of order.”

    At last night’s meeting, Monk told the council they had no right to dictate the content of their speech, and suggested that they instead examine any actions by the city that would prompt such comparisons.

    “As Americans, we have the right to redress our government without fear of being arrested,” he said. “Whether or not they’re connecting dots from Hitler to George Wallace to Barney … you should be asking, ‘well what are we doing that’s allowing people to connect those dots?’ It was a sick and gross abuse of power.”

    Council President Hall interrupted Monk at that point. “Your time is up, sit down,” he said.

    “No, I have a minute and 12 seconds left,” Monk said, looking at the timer at the speaker’s lectern.

    “I’m ruling you out of order,” Hall said.

    When Monk refused to leave, noting that he had not violated any rules of conduct, Hall asked Police Chief Simmons and two other uniformed police officers in attendance to remove him. He refused to budge until his allotted time was up, after which he was escorted from council chambers by the officers.

    During the standoff, council members Sherri Myers and John Jerralds stood up and left their seats in protest.

    “I am leaving this chamber as you are in violation of the people’s First Amendment right,” Myers said. “I will be outside if you want to want to address your grievances to your government.”

    Returning to her seat later in the meeting, she strongly criticized the “chilling effect” such censorship can have on the public right to speech.

  13. Sounds like a Fullerton Council meeting to me, up until you get to the part where council members walk out in defense of the citizen’s rights.

    “Don’t let Sharon Quirk-Silva or any other council member push you around or bully you.”

    And I will add don’t let her blow smoke up your skirt. She is not a good guy, imo, she needs to be out asap.

  14. This is a totally great idea by the FFFF staff to give us a preliminary look at the City Council agenda before they actually meet.
    My thanks to all of the FFFF staff for their tireless efforts to restore sanity and sanctity in our city government.

      1. Why, would you say that? Tell me. All the other crap, we have been listening too. Why would Silva be allowed to shut it down? I don’t think Silva can shut it down. Dick could not shut

  15. I’m watching the Dec 6th video right now. I didn’t realize how much that council ignores you people. All of them. Recall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Item1. I bet ex-Fullerton police chief and current Fullerton city council member, Pat McKinley, will fervently support continued funding of Rusty Kennedy’s Orange County Human Rlations Commission(OCHRC)because the OCHRC primary purpose is to protect the civil rights of all people in the OC, excepting the civil rights of homeless, disabled persons, irregular gals arrested by Fullerton police and the unsuspecting person who dare walk down Fullerton’s downtown at night.

    thanks to the efforts of Rsuty Kennedy and his OCHRC and Fullerton city council person Pat McKinley serving as the only member of law enforcement on the OCHRC, Fullerton is a safer place to live and play ,excepting those persons who ask the Fullerton police hard questions like why are you arresting,molesting me.

    1. I find it difficult to see how anyone would support him or McKinley, but then again it’s a “preaching to the choir” thing.

      1. Jane,
        Sadly most voters live in a bubble and don’t want to know what is going on. They think since ol’ McPension was chief that somehow he is qualified to represent you and I when we both know his only constituency is the FPD.

        Voters like their artificial bubble. However, they are in for a rude awakening when the bubble bursts. It may take until November to get a new body who will at least take out the FPD earplugs and listen to the people.

        I submit to you that our voters are as out of touch with their Council as their Council is with them. And for years that worked, except in 1994 and perhaps now.

        1. “Sadly most voters live in a bubble and don’t want to know what is going on.”

          Until something tragic happens, such as the Kelly Thomas murder.

          “they are in for a rude awakening when the bubble bursts”

          A rude awakening should wash over many govt. municipalities, IMO.

          1. The fact that the Kelly Thomas murder by McKinley’s cops made international news means the little town of Fullerton’s civic leaders and their sycophants may no longer use anonymity to hide their nefarious deals.

    2. Of course McKinley will support it. All the cops do. That’s because the County pays for it.

      Next year Rusty is finished. His pension is already cut off. Next year he’s on his own.

    3. Van,
      You owe me a new key board and monitor which are both drenched in hot coffee after reading your comments!!!

  17. Joe Furrz :
    I’m watching the Dec 6th video right now. I didn’t realize how much that council ignores you people. All of them. Recall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Note the smarmy disingenuous individual who addresses the City Council at the 1:25 mark of the last City Council meeting. Although he never identifies himself as the official spokesperson for the Anti-Recall campaign, as well as the Campaign Treasurer for both Dick Jones and Pat McKinley’s election efforts last fall, he speaks for the entire three minutes about why his candidates are blameless about pension reform and that they are being unfairly targeted for recall.
    Did I also mention that Larry Bennett who is a finacial consultant was recently appointed as the new Fullerton Planning Commission back in March of 2011 by Pat McKinley, who is the very same man that Larry Bennett had served as his Campaign Treasurer in the 2010 City Council election?
    This wreaks of political cronyism, which literally effects us all in the end one way or another, because the best people for these positions aren’t being selected, only the best friends of those in positions of power.

    1. DUH! How did you think City Hall works? You didn’t really think they cared about the taxpayers and voters, did you??

      1. they are our elected officials whop have sworn jot uphold the laws of the land just like our police force, so not IP did not expect them to honor their words,

        1. They are our elected officials who have sworn to uphold the laws of our town and the laws of our nation just like our police force has sworn to uphold and honor our laws. and this is why the recall must occur because our elected officials have not upheld our laws and have allowed our police force to brreak our laws.

  18. Item 9 is an approval to build room additions at the Airport.  On a side note, why do they always go low-bid?  The lowest bidder is often lowest because they do not understand what is involved and how to deliver the quality needed.

    In the future, all bids will be awarded to Bushala Brothers construction regardless of the bid. This is only fair as the spoils go to Victors.

    1. “In the future, all bids will be awarded to Bushala Brothers construction regardless of the bid. This is only fair as the spoils go to Victors”

      Some people need to get over the Tony thing.
      You need to look at what’s going on in this City, right now. No Tony thing……What’s going on, is residents of Fullerton are tired of all the BS.

    2. They have no valid point. The ironic thing is everything they’re scaring voters about as its related to Tony is what they’ve been doing for years.

      Tony didnt make Fullerton into the dump it is today, they did. I’ll never forget the first time I took the harbor blvd exit this summer and saw what a god awful dump Fullerton is. The busted up roads and sidewalks were the first thing I noticed.

      1. While I agree they have no valid point and that Tony isn’t the big, evil henchman they make him out to be, Fullerton is NOT a dump!

        1. I hate to say this of my home town but, yes it is a DUMP!…It is like leprosy. Try driving down commonwealth from the west end to the east end. It looks like a dump down that entire street…with the exception of the police department and city hall, of course.

  19. Item 9 is an approval to build room additions at the Airport. On a side note, why do they always go low-bid? The lowest bidder is often lowest because they do not understand what is involved and how to deliver the quality needed.

    In the future, all bids will be awarded to Bushala Brothers construction regardless of the bid. This is only fair as the spoils go to the Victors.

  20. Why the big interest in widening Harbor blvd between Bastanchury & Berkeley.?
    The part that should be widened is from Berkeley to the 91 Fwy to at least 6 lanes wide. This would only take out about 3 or 4 downtown bars.

  21. CNN, all the local media, an international story, the new age of internet, this is a cities representatives in self destruct mode.
    I was taught that the camera is the most powerful weapon known to Man.

    Dont be so hard on all the FPD and city staff, as in many, conflicts and incidents the closest, are some of the very greatest victims. (Nazi Germany, Sadahms 2 million killed (probably murder), Neros Rome).

    The next Fullerton elections wont be a easy, things are already so much better! Who doesnt love a friendly newsvan?

    Dont forget America is “a shining city on hill”, “a Beacon for Democracy”, “The land promised to the Saints”

  22. Your Future In Fullerton… :
    Don’t let Sharon Quirk-Silva or any other council member push you around or bully you. If it happened in Florida it can happen to you too.
    Video: Father Nathan Monk at Pensacola City Council
    Story: Council urges civility, threatens priest with police removal

    Father Monk chided the council members — and Council President Sam Hall in particular — for their actions at Monday’s Committee of the Whole meeting. At that meeting, several citizens had spoken in opposition to the proposed anti-homeless ordinances, and in doing so made unflattering comparisons to historical figures (one person mentioned Heinrich Himmler’s “Final Solution“) and questioned the Christian charity of any council member who would support the ordinances. Council members DeWeese and Johnson took offense at the accusations, and Hall had asked Police Chief Chip Simmons to remove several speakers he deemed “out of order.”
    At last night’s meeting, Monk told the council they had no right to dictate the content of their speech, and suggested that they instead examine any actions by the city that would prompt such comparisons.
    “As Americans, we have the right to redress our government without fear of being arrested,” he said. “Whether or not they’re connecting dots from Hitler to George Wallace to Barney … you should be asking, ‘well what are we doing that’s allowing people to connect those dots?’ It was a sick and gross abuse of power.”
    Council President Hall interrupted Monk at that point. “Your time is up, sit down,” he said.
    “No, I have a minute and 12 seconds left,” Monk said, looking at the timer at the speaker’s lectern.
    “I’m ruling you out of order,” Hall said.

    When Monk refused to leave, noting that he had not violated any rules of conduct, Hall asked Police Chief Simmons and two other uniformed police officers in attendance to remove him. He refused to budge until his allotted time was up, after which he was escorted from council chambers by the officers.
    During the standoff, council members Sherri Myers and John Jerralds stood up and left their seats in protest.
    “I am leaving this chamber as you are in violation of the people’s First Amendment right,” Myers said. “I will be outside if you want to want to address your grievances to your government.”
    Returning to her seat later in the meeting, she strongly criticized the “chilling effect” such censorship can have on the public right to speech.

    Note that this type of very incident just recently happened while Dick Jones was Mayor several weeks ago when he tired of Jimmy deriding him about his handling of the Kelly Thomas murder.

  23. Doock DOOCK Doookkk Doock dok.
    dook doook. cant say Im not gonna miss him. We need better reporting of tbe meetings.

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