Intoxicated Dude Smashes Into Ron Thomas’ Car

In a rather bizarre incident yesterday afternoon a Fullerton resident named Robert Ghanadian suddenly careened his SUV into several parked cars along the south side of the 100 block of West Commonwealth. One of the cars belonged to Ron Thomas, father of FPD murder victim Kelly Thomas, who happened to be attending some sort of community meeting hosted by Sharon Quirk-Silva at Steamers Cafe.

Apparently the guy demonstrated signs of intoxication and failed a field sobriety test.

All sorts of cops showed up, supposedly to make sure that this wasn’t some sort of deliberate attempt to harm Ron Thomas. O the solicitude! Ron seemed satisfied by this explanation of concern for his welfare, however at least one eye-witness says Ghanadian’s vehicle sported some sort of police decal and appeared to come from the police department headquarters down the street.

Ron's SUV pushed into a tree. The guy in the blue shirt is being given a sobriety test

It certainly seems too coincidental to be characterized as sinister. I am in the process of getting some video from the scene, and I will try to shed some more light on this incident.

226 Replies to “Intoxicated Dude Smashes Into Ron Thomas’ Car”

    1. So what does crashing in to Ron thomas’s car have to do with anything? Was he in it??? NO! Typical FFFF trying to make something out of nothing! It just goes to show what a bunch of morons all you Ffffers are!!!!

      1. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SAY THERE WASN;T ANY INTENT OT HIT THE CAR WITH RON IN IT IS THERE? USELESS IDIOT!

        1. There’s no evidence to even suggest that there was a deliberate attempt by some drunk guy to ram his car into Ron Thomas’ car.

          Cops typically show up when there is a car accident, and more cops show up when it’s found the guy that ran into park cars is drunk. OMG Shocking, right?

          Still using Ron Thomas and his son’s murder for page hits, hey? Do you people on here even give two shits about police brutality or only when it happens in a town full of rich white people?

      2. It only goes to show the total bizarreness of what is happening in Fullerton and how the FPD is always involved in whatever bizarre, corrupt, and incompetent thing is happening at any given moment.

        1. Blessu what is bazar about a drunk guy crashing and the police showing up?? Funny I the police didnt show up all you f’n fffer’s would be crying and screaming about that! It just goes to show what a bunch of brainless morons you all are!

        2. What’s bizarre is that you blame Ron Thomas for this incident. It’s HIS fault that some drunk guy crashed into someone else’s car, which then crashed into Ron Thomas’ car. Yup, definitely Ron’s fault; what a jerk.

          In a further and some would even say more bizarre twist, your poor reading comprehension skills led you to believe that admin is declaring this a conspiracy against Ron.

          Stunningly, you have yet to retract either of these falsehoods.

          1. Was speaking to 4fs, not blessusall.

            To 4f: ProTip — don’t call other people morons in a post filled with misspellings, grammatical errors, punctuation errors, incorrect accusations, and comprehensive logical failure.

      1. Lee your a moron too! Is that the best come back or reaction is spelling and grammar??? Really??? Again you fffer’s are so easily distracted! Hey lee………. what’s that shinny thing over there??? So easy haha

        1. I’ve never seen a “shinny thing.” Curious to know what it is? Does it have anything to do with soccer or hockey?

        2. Well, there’s your little GED hard at work, doin’ the bestest than he can: I think I can, I think I can…

  1. “(The police) wanted to make sure it wasn’t deliberate against me,” said Thomas, referring to the large police presence at the scene. “That’s good.”

    Sounds like a CIA black bag job Ron

  2. “Apparently the guy demonstrated signs of intoxication and failed a field sobriety test”

    This is not so unusual for Fullerton.

      1. Marty Feldman would have been great as Cincenelli. rofl.

        Who would make a better Ron Thomas, Chevy Chase or Steve Martin?

        Hum, Pat MacPension?… Bet Clint Eastwood could do comedy if he tried.

        I’m thinking Gene Hackman for Mardirossian, with good makeup and hair piece, of course. Um, or maybe Hackman would be better cast as HeeHaw? Hackman can pretty much play anything he wants to really.

        Now, who could play, Jeremy Popoff, Robin WIlliams?

        Kenton Hampton: Chris Tucker.

        Veth Mam: Jackie Chan. __ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-bA9FYB8HY

  3. I love a good conspiracy theory. However, a good conspiracy has to have an intended effect, be deniable by the proponents, and have a limited and controlable downside. The notion that the car was sent from the police station to do rather minor property damage to harrass Ron Thomas breaks the rules.

    Now if “one eye-witness” was acutally a “one-eyed witness”, I might give the theory more credence.

        1. Admin says: “It certainly seems too coincidental to be characterized as sinister.”

          F effer responds: “You really think this was a conspiracy??”

          effer you should probably rethink whom you are targeting the “idiot” insults at. Particularly when your post clearly reveals the correct target to the rest of the intelligent world.

      1. BEEN IN CONTACT WITH POST AND THE DMV ASKING A MYRIAD OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW COPS WITH ONE EYE CAN NOT ONLY BECOME COPS, BUT HAVE DRIVER’S LICENSES, AND THE ANSWERS HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD.

        POST ALTHOUGH THEY WRITE POLICY AND STANDARDS FOR STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT, ARE JUST A WORTHLESS, TOOTHLESS TAX DOLLAR GRABBING AGENCY WITH NO ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER. THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE SIMPLEST OF QUERIES WHEN IT COMES TO HOW CICINELLI CAN GET HIRED WITH ONE EYE ONTO FPD.

        IT VIOLATES POST STANDARDS, AND THERE IS A MANDATE THAT AGENCIES BELONGING TO POST(WHICH APPEARS TO BE VOLUNTARY) FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES.

        FPD SET ITSELF UP BY HIRING CICINELLI IN THAT THEY NOW HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE ADA. THEY CAN NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST HIM AS AN EMPLOYEE BECAUSE OF HIS DISABILITY ACQUIRED WHILE WORKING AT ANOTHER AGENCY.

        FPD JOB DESCRIPTION EYE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE AT LEAST A 20/40 VISION IN EACH EYE WITH CORRECTIVE LENSES. YOU CAN NOT HAVE 20/40 VISION IN EACH EYE WITH A GLASS EYE.
        THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REQUIREMENT FOR HAVING PERIPHERIAL VISION IN EACH EYE.

        POST CAN’T EXPLAIN HOW THIS HAPPENED, STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FOR POST TRAINING COORDINATOR.

        AS TO CICINELLI AND TONG’S DRIVER’S LICENSES, HOW DO THEY MANAGE TO KEEP THEM? DID THEY REPORT THE LOSS OF ONE EYE TO DMV? DID THEY HAVE TO TAKE AN ON THE ROAD DRIVE TEST TO SHOW THAT THEY HAD PERIPHERAL VISION IN THEIR EYES WHERE IT IS NOW GLASS?

        WE HAVE ALL HAD TO TAKE VISION TESTS AT DMV. WAS TONG AND CICINELLI GIVEN PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT?

        WERE THEY JUST GIVEN AUTOMATIC EXTENSIONS OF THEIR DRIVER’S LICENSES WITHOUT BEING RE-TESTED? YOU CAN GET ONLY SO MANY EXTENSIONS BEFORE DMV WANTS YOU TO COME IN AND DO A VISION TEST AND GET A NEW PHOTO.

        THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO VERY DANGEROUS DRIVERS OUT THERE ON THE ROAD WHO CAN’T SEE SHIT. IS FULLERTON PREPARED TO SUCK UP THE LIABILITY FOR ACCIDENTS CAUSED BY THESE ROBOTERMINATOR COPS?

        THINKING THAT THESE PSYCHOS ARE OUT THERE WORKING AS COPS IS BAD ENOUGH, BUT THEIR VISION PROBLEMS MAKE IT A COMPLETE AND UTTER NIGHT MARE.

        WE NEED TO SEE HOW MANY OFFICER INVOLVED TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS CICINELLI AND TONG HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND WERE “AT FAULT” IN AND THE REASONS WHY THEY WERE AT FAULT. JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO PONDER.

        1. So, under the ADA if someone with a disability filled out an application and was denied because of that disability. They could sue the department?

          In other words, Fullerton PD/McKinley set a precedent?

          1. Well, I sure hope that frivolous lawsuit/ADA lawyer Morse Mehrban ([email protected]) doesn’t get wind of this.

            The City of Fullerton could end up paying a hefty settlement if they deny anyone with a disability from joining.

  4. With a higher concentration of alcohol dispensaries than the Vegas Strip, no one should be surprised a drunk driver runs afoul in Downtown Fullerton. Pity it had to be Ron Thomas’ car.

    1. THE CHP SHOULD BE SITTING OUT ON HARBOR BLVD., WAITING TO NAIL THESE DRUNKEN COPS. THEY WILL BUST THEIR OWN MOTHERS!

  5. A multi-million dollar settlement.

    A multi-million contract to train officers (coming soon!).

    and… A BRAND NEW CAR!

    1. Nice list.
      But needs more “Today is the last day for FPD officers on the job, they will be turning in their guns and badges as the Dept is being disbanded.”

      1. The last thing Ron wants is the FPD disbanded. That would totally ruin his plans for a multi-million dollar contract to train them.

  6. I’ll say it and I’ll say it again……………. Something just doesn’t sit right with the direction the whole situation has taken. This is strictly my opinion and based solely on a gut feeling.

    Hope I am just being an excited citizen, but time will tell……………………………..

    1. There is a tremendous amount of unrest and instability going on around everywhere with respect to protests and the like. It is my opinion that the protests were called off in Fullerton by city insiders so as to avert an “occupation” type event from putting down roots here.

  7. Ron Thomas training police, Mental Heath expert? Throw your kid onto the street see what happens. End of training

    1. Somehow, I don’t think it would have been a good idea for Ron to have chained up his son in his garage!

        1. SADLY, THAT IS A TREND EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY. FINALLY, THE LA TIMES HAD THE BALLS TO SAY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT LEE BACA FOR A LONG TIME….HE IS A SOCIAL PROGRESSIVE, OUT TO DESTROY LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WE ONCE KNEW IT. OIR IS PART OF THE SCAM.

    2. Wrire a book about protecting yourself as a female and then look the other way while your cops rape and fondle women….. end of book.

  8. Don’t know about anything sinister going on here. But considering what is going on in this town I wouldn’t rule it out. Thankfully no one was hurt and maybe Ron might consider something with better MPG and eco friendly. Smaller is easier to park too 🙂

  9. What time of day was this, seems IMO a bit early for someone to be intoxicated.

    Also; I think you misspelled several.

  10. Since the police handled this incident without killing anybody, I am allowed to release details to the press. Any questions?

  11. Maybe next time he won’t park his SUV so far away from the curb like he usually does.

    Ron loves parking that monstrosity anywhere and everywhere including red zones.

    1. From what I understand Mr. Ghanadian who was not drunk had a hard time understanding and following officers directions during the sobriety test because he doesn’t speak English fluently and he was still shaken up by the collision.

      That gave officers “PC” to place him under arrest for driving under the influence.

      1. In all fairness it is his fault for parking so far into traffic and away from the curb. It’s a common occurrence on his part.

        1. His car wasn’t the first one hit. The car behind his was hit first. Still rolling with the “it’s Ron’s fault” BS?

          1. Elusiveness: How to Create the Impression of Answering a Question Without Answering the Question

            Silver Tongue Devil: The Art of Twisting the Truth to Suit Your Own Purposes. Prerequisite: Elusiveness

        2. Do people out that way get special training on “How to Blame the Victim No Matter What the Circumstance?” Must be part of the school curriculum very early because they’ve got that down to a tee!

          1. It has a concurrent 1 unit lab that focuses on “The Practicals of Developing a God Complex: You are Never Wrong”

          2. We ought to write out the entire curriculum.

            Some sample classes:
            – Defeating empathy: finding joy in others’ suffering.
            – World heroes: Caligula, Stalin, and Himmler
            – Evidence 101: Audio/video device confiscation
            – Evidence 201: DAR vulnerabilities
            – Evidence 301: Police reports (this is a “group” course)
            – Perjury 101
            – Cruiser Screen Testing
            – Effing people up 101: Stop Resisting
            – Effing people up 201: Fingerbreaking
            – Effing people up 301: Keeping them behind bars for up to 5 months at a time
            – Advanced Nepotism
            – 5 finger discounts 101: Evidence lockers
            – 5 finger discounts 201: Arrestee wallets
            – 5 finger discounts 301: Miami International
            – Molestation: Always wrong unless it’s you

          3. Let’s call it Shadenfreude–it sounds so…academic. Will need to make it a two semester course, Shadenfreude 101: Finding joy in other’s suffering
            Shadenfreude 102: Finding joy in inflicting suffering on others

          4. Let me try that again.

            Advanced Torture: Putting it all together. Prerequisites Effing People Up 101, 201, and 301. Also requires approval of course instructor, P. McKinley.

          5. Elusiveness: How to Create the Impression of Answering a Question Without Answering the Question

            Silver Tongue Devil: The Art of Twisting the Truth to Suit Your Own Purposes. Prerequisite: Elusiveness

  12. 1. Ron Thomas said he is getting his 2001 SUV repaired.
    2. He was parked legally and if you look at the photo of his SUV up on the curb and leaning against the tree, that had to be one huge hit.
    3. I watched as Robert Ghanadian was being interviewed and during his sobriety testing. He could not stand up for more than a few seconds and had to sit down or lean against the building. Not drunk, according to the police there but they suspect “prescription” drugs. He was probably stunned too, just smashed into three cars as he was headed toward the intersection of Harbor and Commonwealth. The police also said it was hard to understand him, hinting that he had a strong accent.

      1. They saved the beating and tasing for jail. After which they will encourage him to kill himself right before they destroy the DAR devices.

  13. Commonwelth :Maybe next time he won’t park his SUV so far away from the curb like he usually does.
    Ron loves parking that monstrosity anywhere and everywhere including red zones.

    Does he get ticketed for parking in red zones?

  14. “…at least one eye-witness says Ghanadian’s vehicle sported some sort of police decal and appeared to come from the police department headquarters down the street.”

    Really? You’re theorizing a drunk cop crashed into a bunch of cars in broad daylight while Ron was in a meeting inside Steamers so the police could come out to see if he’s okay? That just sounds silly.

  15. “It certainly seems too coincidental to be characterized as sinister. ”

    Doesn’t sound like anybody is theorizing anything to me.

  16. I will be attending the monthly meeting that Sharon Quirk-Silva has tomorrow (Wednesday). It is at Steamers Cafe located at 138 Commonwealth, just west of Harbor. This is like a “Town-Hall” meeting that everyone is welcomed to attend to find out what is going on in Fullerton, and to ask Sharon anything that you like. It starts at 4:00pm. After the meeting, I will be “Re-Building” Kelly’s Memorial as it is in need of attention.

    I will also be visiting the Farmers Market this Thursday, and then joining in with the 7:30 walk for Kelly. If you would like to talk to me and find out more about what is going on with the case or anything else, please come out and we can talk. There has been a lot happening recently, so take this opportunity to visit with me.

    http://ron.ktmf.org/this-wednesday-and-thursday

    1. Ron may wish to quit advertising his whereabouts.

      Based on the comments on this site he has a lot of enemies who are armed and dangerous and who possess few or no moral scruples.

      1. Sorry to rain on your parade of paranoia but no one related to Law Enforcement is going to be stupid enough to hurt Ron but if I were him I would watch out for paranoid people like you “Put a Cork in It”.

        “RON! RON! SHAKE MY HAND! RONNNNN!!!!!!! IM UR BIGGEST SUPPORTER! RON!!!!”

        1. They were stupid enough to beat an unarmed guy to death in full view of witness’s and video cameras that they knew were there. They were stupid enough to fake up arrest charges on a guy with a video camera. They were stupid enough to lock up a guy for 5 months who was innocent. They were stupid enough to charge a guy with being drunk in public who was not drinking. They were stupid enough to steal an Ipad in an airport, cameras everywhere and no place to run. Shall I keep going on how stupid these cops are and the bad choices they seem to be inclined in making?….. Whats one more stupid, bad choice for these idiots.

          1. Lets not kid ourselves. They’re not going to do any of that while the world is watching. Everything you listed happened before the world become aware of their activities.

            The FPD has been defanged for now.

    2. RON, I HOPE YOU LOOK INTO THE EARLIER POST I WROTE REGARDING POST AND DMV AND CICINELLI/TONG ONE-EYED COP DRIVERS. SMELLS LIKE LIABILITY ON THE PART OF FULLERTON. DMV AND POST ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT GETS HIRED AS LEO’S. THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED WITH SOME LEGISLATION.

  17. Boy-this guy is going to be in for a big surprise on his next car insurance renewal! Hitting 3 cars, DUI??. Premium will probably triple. Hitting 3 cars, he may not even have enough coverage. If not, he’ll be sued. It would be incredible if this were something FPD would be envolved with.

    1. can you imagine what tong’s and cicinelli’s insurance would be like if they reported driving with one eye?

  18. Ron, just take your million and get the heck out. Your 15 minutes is up. We know you’re enjoying your celebrity status but it’s making you look more and more like what many accused you of in the first place.

      1. I love how this guy talks as if Ron Thomas wants the celebrity status. I would say FPD your 15 mins is up however all the stupid shit your department does or gets revealed, just adds more minutes to the clock. Sounds like somebody is bitching about all the dirt being dug up on the department. Sorry Anonymous it’s called accountability. Ron has every right to be where he is because he is bringing more to light than just his son’s death. His cause is bringing accountability to every officer who has done wrong to others and not just his son.

  19. this is 2009 “news” posted in 2011?? why?

    What a piece of crap rag the OCR is, please stop bringing that rag’s link here, it is akin to posting a Fullerton Observer or a TMZ link. WTF cares what they have to say, they do not disseminate real news.

      1. No, actually, “Reality Is” represents the entry point to the police culture who is actually listening to how the general culture is responding. He/she? is the person that can take your thoughts up into a level of national influence. After all, he talks to Gordon Graham regularly.

  20. Corrupt :
    They were stupid enough to beat an unarmed guy to death in full view of witness’s and video cameras that they knew were there. They were stupid enough to fake up arrest charges on a guy with a video camera. They were stupid enough to lock up a guy for 5 months who was innocent. They were stupid enough to charge a guy with being drunk in public who was not drinking. They were stupid enough to steal an Ipad in an airport, cameras everywhere and no place to run. Shall I keep going on how stupid these cops are and the bad choices they seem to be inclined in making?….. Whats one more stupid, bad choice for these idiots.

    Well done.

  21. *yawn* :Lets not kid ourselves. They’re not going to do any of that while the world is watching. Everything you listed happened before the world become aware of their activities.
    The FPD has been defanged for now.

    It’s amazing what a drunk and/or drug affected person will do. I don’t believe it would be some deliberate plot but more likely an impulsive act while the person was intoxicated with impaired judgment and poor impulse control. If they were in a blackout, they might not even remember doing it later. Add to that there does appear to be some serious issues already with LE in the area, possibly including limited intellect….

    1. He wasn’t a cop, but he did come from the FPD Station and he supposedly has an FPOA sticker on the back of his SUV.

      1. Point taken. A drunk and/or drug affected person who is an FPD supporter with impaired impulse control and impaired judgment in addition to limited intellect….

  22. *yawn* :
    Lets not kid ourselves. They’re not going to do any of that while the world is watching. Everything you listed happened before the world become aware of their activities.
    The FPD has been defanged for now.

    As long as those goons have guns and badges they are not defanged.

    1. > As long as those goons have guns and badges they are not defanged.

      The last thing Ron wants is their badges and guns taken away. How would he make millions “training” them?

  23. 9c1:

    You’ve extended your invitation to RI many times now. I don’t believe he’s ever going to accept.

    1. ANYONE WITH A FFPOA STICKER ON HIS WINDOW IS A DONOR TO THE ASSOCIATE POA. THIS STICKER MEANS “PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT” WHEN STOPPED BY THE PO-PO’S!

  24. 9c1;

    I have to agree with MUR, the Reality ain’t gonna show his/her face, shake your hand and exchange peaceful conversation with you.

    My motto has always been “I won’t say anything behind your back that I won’t say to your face”. I can now include to “or behind a screen name on a blog”.

    And for Reality, like I have stated before, 9c1 is a decent guy who will simply talk you you and exchange ideas. You don’t have to afraid, really.

    1. SCANDALOUS COWARDS THESE COP ASSLICKERS ON THIS BLOG. THEY ARE SHAMELESS AND HAVE NO BALLS. WE AT LEAST HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SHOW OUR FACES AND DISCUSS OUR DISDAIN AND DISTRUST OF CITY GOV’T.

  25. Drugged Up Dude, Who Had Been At Fullerton Police Station That Day To See A Traffic Officer, Rams Into Ron Thomas’ Parked SUV

    Thomas says the police department sent a lot of officers to the scene, including a captain. “When the initial officer showed up, he probably thought, ‘Oh, shit,'” Thomas says, in reference to Thomas’ car being involved in the crash.

    He says he doesn’t suspect anything sinister on the department’s behalf, but added that Ghanadian was wearing a Fullerton Police Department sticker on his shirt.

    http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/10/drugged_up_dude_who_had_been_a.php

    1. It almost seems like the intent was to damage/scrape Ron’s car and possibly others but the guy miscalculated and slammed full force into his back bumper.

    2. “Goodrich confirmed that Ghanadian had been at the police station sometime yesterday to speak with a traffic officer, but he wouldn’t say whether Ghanadian had just left the station before crashing into the cars. “He was one of the many people in the station yesterday,” Goodrich says.”

      So why won’t he say if they guy had just left the station? Who cares? C’mon, Goodrich,

      1. Hw won’t say because the guy was obviously stoned and they let him drive away f-ed up.

        Maybe Reality Is will repeat what he wrote earlier about cops and their legal duties toward public intoxication.

        It’s a damn good thing for Fullerton taxpayers that nobody was hurt or we’d have yet another civil suit on our hands.

      2. Someone should ask Goodrich if Ghanadian entered and exited the station through the front door or through an employee only entrance.

        Also did he park park his car on the street or through the employee access gate?

        1. Goodrich response: He was one of many people who either entered and exited the station through the front door or through the employee only entrance.

          Also, he was one of many people who either parked his car on the street or through the employee access gate.

      3. BETTER QUESTION TO ASK IS, WAS THE DRUNKEN SUSPECT DRUNK WHEN HE WENT TO THE POLICE STATION AND HE WASN’T ARRESTED FOR 647(f)? WATCH HIM DRIVEAWAY AS A 23152vc? GOOD GOING FPD.

        1. This is why FPD has to be disbanded. They are too much of a liability for the city.

          No amount of training will fix this mess

      4. Goodrich, pretend you serve a function. Did the guy drive straight from FPD into Ron’s SUV like a heat seeking missile or not?

  26. OC Weekly blogs:

    Goodrich confirmed that Ghanadian had been at the police station sometime yesterday to speak with a traffic officer, but he wouldn’t say whether Ghanadian had just left the station before crashing into the cars. “He was one of the many people in the station yesterday,” Goodrich says.

    Okay, I am laughing out loud. It is almost too much at this point. If someone were telling me this whole Fullerton story, from beginning to end, I swear I would think they were pulling my leg. It is completely bizarre. Believe me when I tell you, the stuff that’s happening there is not normal in other places. You have one blogger who continues to point out that “this is the reality” and I actually believe they have no clue that Fullerton/Orange County is not the ONLY reality, and from other perspectives, it is a bizarre reality. So the drugged up guy left the POLICE STATION and then crashed into the car of the father of the man who was beaten to death by police officers while the father was in a meeting at a restaurant not far from where his son was murdered with a councilwoman who is on the corrupt City Council for which there is currently an ongoing recall initiative. Oh, and the drunk/drug affected driver had an FPD sticker on his shirt.

    The only thing that keeps it from being off-the-chain hilarious is that it is the truth rather than fiction and the truth in Fullerton is turning out to be so tragic. The good people of Fullerton deserve so much better than this.

    1. This whole biazrre episode may be in a theartre near you as Ron had announced at city council meeting that he had been offered movie deal as well as a book deal.

  27. Goodrich’s answer to whether Ghanadian had just left the station before crashing into the cars: “He was one of the many people in the station yesterday”
    TRANSLATED: Yes.

    1. “He was one of the many people in the station yesterday” haha. Answer the f*cking question Goodrich. Is it so damn hard with a mouth as big as yours (with a belly to confirm how big your mouth is), to answer the question? Why is it so hard to confirm something without trying to pass blame?? God he annoys me. How is this guy still talking? Honestly.

      1. So wait, this guy Ghanadian walks into the department, asks a traffic officer a question, the traffic officers answers his question then slaps a Fullerton P.D sticker on his chest, and then Ghanadian he drives into Ron Thomas’ truck. Got it….I think. I’m not saying there’s a conspiracy but even that story doesn’t make sense.

  28. there are pd’s being shut down all of the time, just an example of one here:
    Grand StrandGrand StrandRSS Text Size Print Share This Home / news / Atlantic Beach hires officer with history of misconduct

    Atlantic Beach Investigation (Added: October 13, 2011)
    WBTW Reporter Mason Snyder investigates the past troubles of one of Atlantic Beach’s new hires. (more) 0 Ratings | 28 Video Views Post a Comment or Rate this Video
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    Atlantic Beach hired John Jackson in August 2011

    By: Mason Snyder
    Published: October 12, 2011
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    ATLANTIC BEACH – Last July the town of Atlantic Beach fired its entire police force.

    The officers were let go to save thousands of dollars, according to Interim Town Manager Benny Webb.

    But in August, records show, the town began to hire again.

    This time one of the officers it brought on was John Jackson.

    Records from the Criminal Justice Academy show Jackson has worked for at least six other police departments in South Carolina since 2006.

    In 2006 he worked for the Richland County Sheriff’s Office.

    Records indicate Jackson responded to a call on September 26, 2006 that a man was pretending to be an FBI agent.

    Police arrested the man, and Jackson searched his car.

    In separate emails sent from the suspect to law enforcement on September 29, 2006 and October 2, 2006, the suspect accused Jackson of stealing his digital camera, a pair of sunglasses, and a flashlight from the car.

    Jackson denied the claims but was charged with petite larceny on October 30, 2006.

    A jury found Jackson not guilty in March 2007, but in a letter from the justice academy to one of Jackson’s future employers, Former Lee County Sheriff E.J. Melvin, Jackson “admitted to taking the articles in question”.

    The academy put Jackson on two years probation.

    Despite Jackson’s admission, Melvin hired him to work for the Lee County Sheriff’s Department in July 2007.

    In April 2010, Melvin was arrested on federal drug related charges.

    In December 2010, a Columbia, SC TV crew from WIS recorded Deputy Jackson working off duty security outside a Lee County nightclub.

    The video shows Jackson patted down a female and then patted her twice on the buttocks.

    In a later TV interview Jackson called the incident a “joke”.

    “Her and I were playing on each other,” said Jackson. “That’s all that was and it was taken out of context.”

    Later in the video, Jackson put his arms around another woman and thrust his pelvis into her.

    “Her other friend that was on the video was choking and I did try to help her by giving her the Heimlich maneuver,” Jackson said.

    Lee County’s new sheriff fired Jackson for misconduct.

    After Jackson’s termination the Criminal Justice Academy maintained his eligibility to be a police officer in the state.

    “Sometimes its confusing to people what they feel misconduct might be,” said Hubert Harrell, Director of the Criminal Justice Academy.

    “For instance if you violate an agency policy you may consider it misconduct because ‘It’s my agency and you violated my policy’, but by the statute it is not misconduct.”

    News 13 made nine attempts in a three week span to contact the Atlantic Beach Interim Town Manager to discuss why, with all these incidents in Jackson’s record, the town hired him.

    Webb did not return one call or message.

    Right before Jackson was hired in Atlantic Beach, he worked for society hill.

    Society Hill’s police chief said Jackson is currently under investigation for an undisclosed incident that occurred while he was employed there.

          1. Criminal Justice Academy/Andrew Goodrich response: No, it’s not misconduct recognized by the state or the pd because–you don’t understand what misconduct is and we can’t explain it to you because…you wouldn’t understand. All you really need to know is that whatever it is, it’s not what you think it is, and, it’s not something that police officers do.

    1. Is the OC sherrif up to the task of policing the downtown fullerton after 12 AM. It gets pretty wild out there…

  29. “Sometimes its confusing to people what they feel misconduct might be,” said Hubert Harrell, Director of the Criminal Justice Academy.

    Actually, that sentence is confusing…but I get the gist. This whole “people are confused about what misconduct is” is more police academy and police training hype. I think a frequent blogger here was basically saying the same thing. It’s an interesting premise. Whatever we do that is wrong is not really wrong because you don’t really understand what “misconduct” is. And, we define misconduct but we can’t really tell you what it is because you wouldn’t understand it any way. All you really need to know is that misconduct is something that we, the police, don’t do.

    Bizarro land.

  30. it’s like bill clinton trying to define the word “is’ for us. semantics, and low levels of professional ethics and integrity.

  31. OC Weekly:

    “He [Ron Thomas] says he doesn’t suspect anything sinister on the department’s behalf, but added that Ghanadian was wearing a Fullerton Police Department sticker on his shirt.”

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

  32. they are setting up a carnival across the street from City Hall. It’s good that they can get the clowns from across the street.

  33. The event that you are refering to is the annual St. Mary’s carnival. Usually, it draws many parishoners as well as the local Fullerton community. Lots of kids, teenagers and adults attend to socialize and eat foods. A good time for all…….

    I hope everybody stays vigilant and keeps an eye out for Touchy Rincon . Many young women that could be potential Fondling victims for this pervert.

    1. I thought Rincon has been dimissed, already? Hopefully all the FPD training has been completed, by the time the carnival starts. We sure don’t need FPD personal hurting any KIDS, due to health issues.

      1. I don’t think he has actually been fired. He’s been put on notice that he MIGHT get fired…but, they’re not really sure, since the general public does not understand that misconduct is not really what they think it is.

        However, according to one blogger/FPD supporter, he could get fired if he refused to assist a fellow officer in beating up a suspect during an arrest. That would be considered dereliction of duty or something. Go figure.

        1. So, he is still working for FPD? If so, the City of Fullerton has sunk lower than whale shit. This makes me sick. We who call Fullerton our home, are victims, of FPD. Are there any GOOD COPS HERE…….WHY DON’T YOU SPEAK UP!!!!

  34. Cut and paste. What does this have to do with Fullerton? If you live there, good for you on your documentation find, this has nothing to do with Fullerton.

    1. Rialto PD did a very good job removing corrupt officers. It went from a department that had an on-duty murder/suicide and hired 2 officers with felony convictions to a quite active/pro-active department.

      Chief Kling never made excuses when he officers were caught or accused of wrong doing. He started an investigation and didnt fudge the facts when confronted by the media.

      …Fullerton on the other hand seems hell bent on blowing millions of dollars in settlement money over a silly “brotherhood” ideology.

      1. Thanks for the mention of Rialto and Chief Kling. Kling certainly talks a good game:

        “Rialto Police Chief Mark Kling said the actions taken by the department reached far beyond the two officers identified by Holtgreve and showed how seriously they pursued the sexual misconduct probe. Kling said the two officers’ resignations came as the department was pursuing their terminations.

        “I do not tolerate nor will I accept behavior that is not conducive to professional law enforcement, especially when it comes to sexual misconduct while on duty,” Kling said. “We have held those employees accountable, including accepting the resignations of officers that will never be police officers again.”

        Kling, who describes himself as a strict disciplinarian known for cleaning up departments, acknowledged officers did use a police union building for the sex sessions.”

    2. You’re positive it doesn’t have anything to do with a higher bar per square meter count than Las Vegas or a culture of corruption amongst the local police force?

  35. CG, I RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE IDIOTS ON THESE BLOGS THAT WANT TO CONTROL CONVERSATION, BUT YOU’RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THE PASTED STORIES REPRESENT POLICE ISSUES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN FULLERTON, IF YOU ARE THAT NARROW MINDED, POUND SAND!

    1. IF YOU ARE THAT NARROW MINDED, POUND SAND!

      That isn’t very nice. Even I wondered what you were trying to get at by posting these stories.

      1. some days, i am just not that nice, why does everything have to be explained, learn to think for yourselves…..stop being sheeple!

  36. Good Lord…I go to work at 5am and come home to this crap…

    Whatever people, just show up Saturday and represent your fellow Fullerton citizens. And more importantly: DON’T show up unless you are registered to vote here.

    Jerks.

    To everyone else: I’ll see you Saturday. 🙂

  37. If you don’t live in Fullerton, you don’t realize what is happening here. I am not narrow minded, but the blog is FFF, “Friends of Fullerton Future” and I am concerned about Fullerton and,if you don’t like my opinion, go to another blog. Right now, I don’t care about other cities, just Fullerton. No control, just Fullerton. Tell us what you know about Fullerton.

  38. I bet Goodlie handed Mr. Ghanadian a map and a picture of Ron Thomas’ SUV to him, and where it was parked. Afterwards, he was then wisked off to the station for pizza and beer, and a plaque presented by Capt. Hughes for his good deeds.

  39. Oh, and a gift certificate for one free visit to the FPD brothel hangout. Entitles recipient to one free 30 second encounter, (3 times longer than the regular FPD pokie takes), with unlimited recurring STD’s. What a bargain!

  40. Anonymous,

    Rialto PD sounds like the agency in which to model others by. My hat’s off to them.
    Also, the brotherhood ideology, was born out of this, “we never do wrong” montra. I understand the close-knit feeling one gets when you depend on others to back you up; especially in a life and death situation. What I hate, is the silence and circling-of-the-wagons mentality, when clearly one of their own really screws the pooch. It totally undermines the credibility of that agency, and law enforcement as a whole.
    Some on this blog, have really taken me to task for my statements and ideologies regarding police misconduct; I could care less. I demand that all LEO’s adhere to their oath, to uphold the law and to bring honor to the badge and to the profession. I say, if you cannot at least hold to those simple rules, go to the Watch Commander’s Office, take off your badge, give them your gun, and get the hell out of there.

  41. The brotherhood is NOT silly! You cover up for me when I screw up and I do the same for you. Anyone who is groped or died deserves it. Fullerton is for Fullerton PD only. There are 140 of us to cover a city of 130,000. At any given time 15% is out on stress, sick or administrative leave. That leaves 85% of 130 officers = 110. Twenty of them are Lieutenants, Captains and the Chief. No Commanders. That leaves 90 officers. There are 22 detectives, and another 8 who watch the detectives. That leaves just 60 patrol beat police to watch over 3 shifts. 60+3 = 20 officers per shift to patrol a city of 130,000. Subtract one public information officer Sgt. Goodlove and that leaves 59. Of the 59, four are being charged for the wrongs of 2 (according to the Orange Co. DA.). They are being rewarded with full pay for doing nothing.
    So if we are lucky, we can get 18 officers per shift, if they are not sick! They get full pay and pension benefits for being sick, so they cough a lot and miss a few days. Usually we can get 16 officers to protect 130,000 residents.
    Now one call from the innumerable bars in Fullerton and we go there first! When we go to your home for a call, do you provide us with a beer? No? Well, that is why we go to the “nightclub” calls first. We do not have much time for FUN so some like to take the “workin ladies” and we have a big back seat in the patrol car! Hey, no one been fired for that yet!
    So, if we need 6 officers to beat up one homeless bum, that means there are only 10 left to protect the whole city and 5 of them are gonna go first to the bars, then the other 5 to protect your homes and property. 130,000 + 5 = a population to officer ratio of 26,000 to 1. Unless you count Pat McPension who is our unoffical police chief that protects us on the city council!

  42. 9c1copcar :
    I bet Goodlie handed Mr. Ghanadian a map and a picture of Ron Thomas’ SUV to him, and where it was parked. Afterwards, he was then wisked off to the station for pizza and beer, and a plaque presented by Capt. Hughes for his good deeds.

    Probably how it went down.

  43. cg, from a 951’er who lived 17 years in Fullerton and has subsequently held a Fullerton business license for 31 years: have you ever strayed into Anaheim, Placentia, Brea, La Habra, La Mirada, or Buena Park and not felt that you were in a strange land?

    Are all the laws that you live by passed by the Fullerton city council, or are some passed by the California ledgislature and some by the Congress of the United States?

    If you stray into my neighborhood 40 miles east of you, do you expect your rights as a citizen to he upheld here?

    1. if you can’t read, and you have to “wonder” about the relevance, you are indeed brain dead. think outside of your limited box will ya?

  44. We have no chief, Where is Singer? He is ripping the city off too. He and Ron Thomas are probably related and cooked up a good scheme to make a lot of money together.

    If we had any kind of support for our officers, we would not be in this mess today. That includes the Interim Chief Hamilton! A true leader would have stood up for the FPD 6 and gotten rid of the bad seeds on the force at the first onset of problems.

  45. Do you honestly think the FPD Officers are happy about the way some of their fellow officers are handled? They don’t like what was done in the back of the cruiser, and that the officer was allowed to continue even though he was on probation. No, they don’t like it at all but they have nothing to say about it. There is nothing they can do.

    And what about that officer who stole property in an airport? They have no say so over any of it. So it is not always a brotherhood, it is poor leadership that they are stuck with. And if you call that a code of silence, well maybe you are right. Because thay have to remain silent or go against the powers that be.

    1. thats a terrible position to be in..
      i wish the healing could begin, sooner rather than later for the dear city of fullerton..

    2. Hog wild- you gave two options, why is it they choose the easy one? if FPD LE were TRUE men and women (your words) they would choose the later. Let me answer that for you…..They are a bunch of pussies playing CYA until their pension checks start arriving. I used to beleive it was just a few bad apples, now I know it is the entire dept, down to the lowliest clerk.

      And who the hell is “Singer”??

      1. Hog Wild :
        Do you honestly think the FPD Officers are happy about the way some of their fellow officers are handled? They don’t like what was done in the back of the cruiser, and that the officer was allowed to continue even though he was on probation. No, they don’t like it at all but they have nothing to say about it. There is nothing they can do.
        And what about that officer who stole property in an airport? They have no say so over any of it. So it is not always a brotherhood, it is poor leadership that they are stuck with. And if you call that a code of silence, well maybe you are right. Because thay have to remain silent or go against the powers that be.

        14 officers quit in Quartzite Arizona and informed the real powers that be. if you’re scared of a star wearin politician you shouldn’t be a cop

        1. hog wild misses the point-if you TOLERATE the behavior, passively, then you too, are part of the problem. end of story

          Would you be a member of a club that wont serve jews or black people?

  46. Jeff :“…at least one eye-witness says Ghanadian’s vehicle sported some sort of police decal and appeared to come from the police department headquarters down the street.”
    Really? You’re theorizing a drunk cop crashed into a bunch of cars in broad daylight while Ron was in a meeting inside Steamers so the police could come out to see if he’s okay? That just sounds silly.

    Are you saying Cicinelli was a witness?

        1. talk about eggplants! take a look at this one!
          Deputies arrested in off-duty shooting near park in La Mirada

          Fri Oct 14 2011 10:02 PM
          Three Los Angeles County deputies were relieved of duty, and two of them were arrested following an off-duty shooting incident near La Mirada Regional Park, authorities said Friday night.

          Judith Gonzalez, 36, was arrested on suspicion of felony assault with a deadly weapon. Adrienne Myers, 35, was arrested on suspicion of felony battery. The third deputy, who was not arrested, was not identified.

          No one was hit by gunfire in the early Friday incident, but one of the three deputies was treated and released for injuries at a hospital. The name of that deputy was not released.

          Deputy Pete Gomez of the sheriff’s media bureau said he could not say what happened at the park during the predawn incident, but that brandishing or pointing a gun could be charged as an assault.

          “I don’t know if there was an argument, I don’t know if there was a fight. I do know this will be thoroughly investigated,” he said.

          Bail was set at $50,000 for each deputy arrested.

  47. wow, what the odds of this “drunkard” with nothing to do with anything, happening to be “drunk” in the exact area where Ron was.

    What else was he planning to do? and who gave him the idea?

    1. It’s almost impossible to believe that this was anything but a coincidence – bad luck for the FPD though. Did they let a drunk drive away from their station?

      The gods are not smiling on McKinley and his crew these days.

      1. Sorry, admin. No bad luck. Just par for the course. The department if effed up from top to bottom.

        The bad luck happened to those whose cars were hit by this little creep.

        FPD actually had very good luck – nobody was hurt. Another bullet dodged.

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