It’s a good thing that FFFF is recording the board meetings of the Fullerton School District. I just found out that Superintendent Mitch Hovey orders the district’s own audio recordings to be destroyed 30 days after each meeting.

How’s that for transparency and accountability?

Anyway, here’s the video from last night’s meeting. All of the recordings are available under the FSD Videos tab above.

Scroll ahead 45 minutes and listen to the union spokesperson pat a few fellow teachers on the back for using one of their valuable weekends to attend a conference at a hotel on educational topics, including… retirement benefits!

How selfless.

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  1. “…audio recordings to be destroyed 30 days after each meeting.”?

    Isn’t that a destruction of public records?

    “Cal Gov Code § 34090.6. Newly enacted Section 34090.7 further provides that “video recording media, including recordings of ‘routine video monitoring’ pursuant to Section 34090.6, shall be considered duplicate records if the city keeps another record, such as written minutes or an audio recording, of the event that is recorded in the video medium.

    However, a video recording medium shall not be destroyed or erased pursuant to this section for a period of at least 90 days after occurrence of the event recorded thereon.”

    Regulations to Destroy Records

    35253. Whenever the destruction of records of a district is not otherwise authorized or provided for by law, the governing board of the district may destroy such records of the district in accordance with regulations of the Superintendent of Public Instruction which he is herewith authorized to adopt.

    1. I would imagine that once the minutes from the previous meeting have been officially accepted, presumably 30 days after said meeting, the audio transcript is considered redundant as a public record. But one wonders what harm it would do to keep the audio record anyway.

  2. Are you satisfied? Your camera is really messing up our little tea party with the school board and staff. Now we have to think about what we say because it might travel outside an otherwise empty room.

  3. Hovey plays the role of Arbiter of Information (a filter, if you will) within the administrative halls of FSD. No harmful information comes in our out of our helpless trustees’ heads without the blessing of Sir Hovey. It would be horrible if these innocent minds were exposed to recordings of their own stupidity.

    That is why the expedient destruction of mp3 files is prudent and necessary.

  4. You should take your frustration out on the real criminals in the system, big business. Unions may be the current target and easy pray but the next target will be small business. People like Chris Thompson will live to regret tearing down a system that is teaching his child how to think.

    1. Oh Brother. What do big business and small business have to do with educating kids? Typical union diversion. Ray, are you related to 4SD Observer?

  5. This is what allows Dr. Hovey to shred the DVD’s. I have have strongly recommended that the practice be discontinued will move to agendize the matter as policy if it isn’t resolved before the next board meeting.

    V. The Brown Act Permits the Public to Tape Record Meetings that are Open and Public
    Persons attending an open and public meeting of a legislative body may record the proceedings
    with an audio or video tape recorder unless the legislative body reasonably determines that the
    recording constitutes a persistent disruption of the proceedings. An audio or video tape record of
    an open and public meeting made by the local agency shall be subject to inspection pursuant to
    the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 commencing with Seciton 6250 of Division 7 of
    Title 1), but may be erased or destroyed within 30 days of the recording. The legislative body
    shall also permit the broadcast of its open and public meetings unless the legislative body
    reasonably determines that the broadcast constitutes a persistent disruption of the proceedings
    (Govt. Code/54953.5)

  6. “The fact is that censorship always defeats its own purpose, for it creates, in the end, the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion.”

  7. “Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.”

    1. Chris, thanks for the info. More gummit code bs double talk that is designed to allow them to do any thing they want. “may be erased or destroyed within 30 days of the recording”- yeh like 10 seconds is not “within 30 days”. What kind of a fool legislature would write something that gives them gummit bureaucrats so much weasel room. More proof that our State representatives are getting bribed by public employees union money.

  8. “All books can be indecent books, though recent books are bolder.
    For filth, I’m glad to say, is in the mind of the beholder.
    When correctly viewed, everything is lewd.
    I could tell you things about Peter Pan,
    And the Wizard of OZ, there’s a dirty old man!”

  9. be careful about falling into the anti-union anti-benefits propaganda that is so prevalent nowadays. Egypt has no unions and benefits are non existent. What does that spell? dramatically increasing income gaps!

    I’m a teacher and I can tell you that retirement benefits for teachers, who even at $90,000 or even $100,000 dollars a year won’t have a chance on a single income to buy a decent home in any non-criminal section of OC anytime in the next ten years, get a retirement that is only guaranteed to have 80% of the value at retirement. The public is being quite naive about teachers’ salaries and benefits. This falls into the hands of the Republicans, who have always been in favor of eliminating all public schools altogether since their kids are usually in private schools and they don’t want to have to pay taxes for public schools they choose not to use. The only teachers who really get even halfway decent retirements only get that because they have worked as teachers for 40 years. These are in NO WAY lavis retirements (quite meager) and amount to a slight and very slight thank you for a life devoted to students. Take that security away and you’ll see a mass exodus of good people out of the profession which provides less and less motivation for teachers to stay as the profession becomes more of a self-sacrifice as budgets continue to degrade salaries. Egypt first, then us next. Would you like all teachers to make $2 a day instead? What kind of teachers do you want? Ones that suck? Because you’ll get what you pay for. Instead, check out pension spiking administrators in schools who pay them three times what teachers usually make – Republicans usually ignore this.

    1. unionboy, there are probably more criminals living up Raymond hills than in tokers town. So don’t be afraid of living on Valencia it’s not so bad. Just three years ago I graduated (with honors) from CSUF and I still can’t find a decent job. If I had the opportunity I’d take a teaching job for $30,000/yr., heck I’d even take $25K/yr. especially if I had my summers off.

  10. Hey unionboy, just stop with the Republican nonsense. Most people in the private sector do not have any guaranteed retirement, at best most are “meager” so why is it you union folks feel you and your members are the ones entitled to more than the people paying the frieght are getting out of their retirements?

    You union folks take, take and take! Even when their is nothing more to take.

    And getting rid of the government monopoly in the education business is not such a bad idea…the country did not run off the rails before this bad idea came along.

    Your argument does not hold water, the Catholic Church educates kids in the private sector and do a much better job at much less the cost. How can you even look at the state of education then ask, ” What kind of teachers do you want? Ones that suck?”

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