Ad Hoc Tuah Part Five-ah. And No Laughing Matter
Right after the City Council votes to ban nitrous oxide in Fullerton, they will discuss the creation of an ad hoc (that’s Latin, darlin’) committee of two councilmembers to work with staff to develop sales tax ballot measure language. It’s item #20 on your scorecard.
The tax idea was floated by an earlier ad hoc committee, the so-called Sustainable Budget Committee, or something suchlike. That committee ultimately decided to recommend to limit the parameters of the tax to two different special half-cent sales taxes, one for infrastructure and one for our old friend “public safety.” It was probably reasoned that they would get more support than a general sales tax, but they need a two-thirds vote of approval for a special tax – a tough nut to crack.
Of course, a General Tax increase only needs a 50%+1 threshold to pass. But you need a council super- majority – 4 votes – for that to get on a ballot, and that seems highly unlikely.
It’s been painful to watch this drawn out Kabuki and it seems as it if will go on at least until the deadline for getting on next year’s ballot. Fortunately there is little chance that Mayor Fred Jung will let the obnoxious and incompetent spendthrift “doctors” Ahmad Zahra and Shana Charles anywhere near this language-developing process.
We have all seen the way that these government-written ballot measures twist language and logic to try to fool the public to approve them. The examples are so plentiful they hardly need enumerating. Remember the ill-fated Measure S in Fullerton? Hoo Boy was that some seriously misleading bullshit. Hopefully, Jung can require a simple and honest text without the usual treacle.
My cynical side wonders how much of the infrastructure tax language will actually include funding for the cops and financial bailout for the idiotic firefighter-union-members-as-ambulance-drivers decision, or FEMA FFD expansion grant nonsense. Anyway you cut it you want those well-funded unions on board for the inevitable campaign PR campaign.
Fullerton Boohoo and the Kennedy Sisters will be crying out loudly that the fix is in by their new bogeyman – the evil Bushala Bloc – and that any ballot measure language will be crafted to fail without the steady guidance of our in-house council “intellectuals.” Tender young sprout Elijah will demand TRANSPARENCY. They may even still squawk about the need for a General Sales Tax increase, after all. But I think that Good Ship Lollipop has sailed.
Has that ship sailed? I wonder.
I may need some laughing gas to get through the meeting.
Can they put the ballot question on a Primary ballot? I dunno. If they can the timeline is shortened to a few months.
No, they cant.
The meetings should be public, even if no public comments (inevitably stupid) are entertained. Let’s actually get a glimpse into how the unions and the bureaucrats plan to grind this sausage.
For those who pay attention, the tax increase is supported by both sides. Jung will obviously nominate himself, so the other should go to show bipartisanship. If Jung wants to alienate the last moderate in Orange County, he can go for it.
I also agree with the other commenter about making the discussions public.
should go to the other side*
The other side of what? Shut up Elijah. It’s your bed time.
Fred will be fine with moderates, Elijah. I think your boy Traut is the one whose going to have to decide if his stupid old style list of party hack endorsements will be enough. I think we could ask Cannabis Kitty.
Didn’t know “moderates” risked extinction in OC. Operating on that moronic theory, Jung is very liked by moderates because he opposes all things Ahmad.
Independents are going to be the shot callers. And boobs with a bunch of party apparatchiks lining up are going to look like what they are: political dinosaurs.
A general tax only needs a majority from council, there’s no supermajority required. Not sure where you got that from
I got it from our City Attorney. Go consult with him. But on your own dime.
Who told you that?
The discussion is about putting it on the ballot, Young Elijah, not voting to implement it directly. Try to keep up.
Another “gateway drug” gone. I wonder which law enforcement is behind this in OC. They’re banning nitrous oxide everywhere like it’s suddenly a huge problem.
Why do you need nitrous oxide for consumption? What a stupid thing to argue for.
Because it makes ya feel good!
Nobody “needs” alcohol or tobacco for “consumption. They’re legal. What a stupid thing to argue against.
The ship has not sailed. A sales tax increase will be on the ballot and Fullerton voters will approve it. Fullerton, being Fullerton.
I believe a General Sales tax has sailed.
Agreed. The last ad-hoc recommended a tax measure dedicated to infrastructure. The council changed it to a general tax for the ballot and it failed spectacularly.
Times change. Fullerton is dumber today than ever before!
A sales tax measure was already on the ballot in 2024 and Fullerton voters wisely shot it down as Fullerton is incapable of managing its finances. The fire and cop heroes were out in full force pushing the measure because as we all know, they are heroes and deserve.
2020.
We shall see. There is a vast fund of stupidity in Fullerton, which will be tapped by revenue-hungry bureaucrats, incompetents, and aspiring politicians.
From Kalshi…
Will Fullerton, CA vote to approve a sales tax increase in 2026?
Yes 82%
No 28%
Haha.
What the heck ???
I wish people would use their real names.
Would certainly simplify the following of replies.
.:OBSERVER:.
WE MUST HAVE A SALES TAX! ALL 17 PEOPLE AT THE MEETING SAID SO!
THE CITY HAS SPOKEN!!
goodluck
Sixteen people now, with Mr. Potato Head gone.
May he rest in peace…as much as anyone can around here.
Ahmad is out.
It’s a trick.