Homing The Homeless Via The Illuminati
The Voice of OC has a detailed story about how our city council approved giving half a million bucks to something called the Illumination Foundation to acquire and operate a homeless shelter somewhere in Fullerton.
As usual Jennifer Fitzgerald and Jan Flory pretended to care about the fact that the public has not been informed of the location of this place even though they know very well where it is. In the end they went along with their brethren Jesus Silva and Ahmad Zahra and voted 4-0 to commit $500,000 to this philanthropic endeavor (their philanthropy, our money). Bruce Whitaker was missing in action.
Of course Fitzgerald is running for re-election next year in District 1, so we can be certain the proposed property won’t be anywhere near her house, or that of Flory.
40 Replies to “Homing The Homeless Via The Illuminati”
It wouldn’t be near HER house even if she weren’t running for re-election. Ditto Flory.
Fullerton commits $500,000 toward developing a 150-bed homeless shelter
The city council is keeping it secret because it’s going to make everyone mad. What courageous leadership.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
They’re trying to address the street homeless situation. The idea is, if we build the housing then they court will let us enforce the no-camping.
But if they announce every step towards building the housing the NIMBY activists scream bloody murder to try and derail it. Every time.
They’re going for a middle ground of getting the negotiations done so they can at least announce to the public a complete deal with whatever trade-offs.
I’m John R Hogerbuger and I endorse secret backdoor meetings instead of transparency and public accountability. We don’t need to adhere to any principles because we really need unenforceable camping citations.
Anonymous coward, we have representative democracy, not direct democracy. We elected people to do a job, and they’re doing it.
Transparency is great but having a live feed to the public of every negotiation is not how any negotiation works in government or out, short of maybe an auction.
Which this isn’t.
There will be transparency once it’s further along because the law requires it.
Then we can do without the bullshit of “we need to engage the community,” can’t we?
Flory and Fitzgerald know where this place is, pretend to care about popular opinion, but say nothing even as they commit half a million dollors.
You’re a goddam idiot.
‘Then we can do without the bullshit of “we need to engage the community,” can’t we?’
No. You you’re completely ignoring the issue of organized mischief.
Some people will use any information they can get to derail any project for the homeless. Any project at all, no matter whether the people of Fullerton, presented with all the facts would support it.
And a project in the early, nascent stages of just trying to find property is much more vulnerable than one that is fully fleshed out.
The point is to let the project get far enough for the value proposition to be meaningfully evaluated.
Organized mischief is a good description of your intellectual processes. The object of homeless-related strategy is to throw as much money at non-solutions as possible.
P.S. using words like nascent doesn’t make you look smart – just pompous.
It’s precious that you think I’m running to the thesaurus to talk to you.
There is the public RFP process; Requests For Proposals. Why not use it in stead of allowing our elected weasels an easy out?
You have my respect John R. Hogerhuis. Anybody this dumb who uses his own name deserves recognition.
I notice you have no actual argument, just back-handed ad hominem attacks.
Backhanded, you insufferable nitwit.
And now spelling corrections! You’re really bringing it.
Our evil city council is plotting against us in secret. Nothing new for Flory, et. al. She hates the people of Fullerton.
Yes she does. The peasants need direction from people like her. Hence the title.
Why is Flory cramming that wiener in her face?
They have been trying to get in on state college and commonwealth. It is about 60 or so ft .from the school on commonwealth.can u imagine what could happen to the school kids.the law states it has to be a 1\4 mile from a school.
So one of two things is true, either that’s not what the law states or that’s not the site.
This is the #1 NIMBY strategy to not address homelessness, “Save the children!”
It ignores the status quo alternative, street people living everywhere regardless of schools, on the street.
I don’t know what I’m talking about but i really believe it. it’s part of the indoctrination program I went through as a kid.
Exactly the opposite. I was taught to think critically, not to go with my gut and follow the mob.
Which is why you staunchly defend incompetent bureaucrats and politicians like Jan Flory who have worked hard to ruin our city.
Yeah. Real critical.
I’m not defending anyone. I want more shelters and PSH built so we can address the street homelessness in Fullerton.
BTW, are you so embarrassed by your own arguments that you’re hiding behind a corrupted version of my name?
Wish you were embarrassed.
For your mother’s sake.
Corrupted? You’re the one spelling it wrong. Probably too much gin flurry.
We already know the area for the shelter. They do not care about the citizens of Fullerton. Only the chosen ones. They have decided to sacrifice part of Fullerton. Its gross what they have done to this city
Mr Fullerton, please let us know where the area is.
The Illumination foundation shelter will be located in the old DNB engineering building 3535 W. Commonwealth. The opening of the shelter will Not allow Fullerton to enforce any law. The homeless can still camp out on the street so the illumination shelter is pointless. They are charging the city, the county and the hospitals $$$$$. During the day the homeless can leave the shelter and continue to destroy our city. Child molester and Rapist will be allowed to stay with the shelter and schools are less than 1 minute away.
“The Illumination foundation shelter will be located in the old DNB engineering building 3535 W. Commonwealth.”
“The opening of the shelter will Not allow Fullerton to enforce any law.”
False, creating the shelters is what is require to be able to enforce no-camping.
“The homeless can still camp out on the street so the illumination shelter is pointless.”
Remains to be seen. We may need more beds to get to the point where the court allows.
“They are charging the city, the county and the hospitals $$$$$.”
Good. It’s every city’s problem to solve.
“During the day the homeless can leave the shelter”
Yeah, shelters are not prisons. Congrats on figuring that out.
“and continue to destroy our city.”
Attitudes like yours are destructive.
“Child molester and Rapist will be allowed to stay with the shelter”
Where are you getting this stuff?
“and schools are less than 1 minute away.”
Schools are 1 minute away from everywhere in the city.
So your statement is nonsense.
Nonsense, say us non-questioning lackey boohoos. Do your homework we says.
Reply we insist.
I see you have no more support for your bullshit than usual.
Why you arguing with yourself, brah?
We have support, and lots of it. If our bullshit is perceived as such we have only ourselves to blame! And please spell our name properly. Be respectful.
Nothing is going to happen in the near term. 80% to 90% of the air conditioning units need to be replaced, the roof needs to be redone, and the building needs to be completely re-wired and re-plumbed. My understanding is that the front third of the building has 2 story offices, but that the rear two thirds has an open manufacturing area with a two story ceiling. Are they planning on adding a second level to this rear area? More restrooms and showers for the 100 plus people they plan on serving? No matter what they plan on doing to the interior, the building will need to be completely gutted.
Where do they plan on putting the fence around the facility, since the building is no more than 30 feet from the sidewalk on Commonwealth? There is a fenced parking area at the rear of the building – do they plan on extending the building in that area?
I suspect that it will take 6 to 12 months to get just the building renovations developed and the plans sent through the city before any construction can start.
Shares a driveway with the building next door, too. Another subsidized mess on the way.
It’s perfect. short walk to panhandle all of Hangar 21’s guests. Its a WIN WIN