I Don’t ♥ Fullerton Police
I am still struggling to get over the images from last week’s city council meeting in which one city councilman donned an “I ♥ Fullerton Police” t-shirt while another declared proudly “I support the Fullerton Police Department.” Another incongruous image also hard to clear from my mind: a city council chambers and adjoining room spilling over with people sporting the same t-shirts with the same baffling message.
Mr. Chafee and Mayor Quirk-Silva, I hope you don’t mind me telling you why I find these statements so inexplicable.
The Fullerton Police Department is an institution – an organization which hires individuals to enforce laws. In the last 16 months or so the number of reports of incidents of police misconduct and resulting lawsuits grew exponentially. The Kelly Thomas killing represented the brutality and savagery of out-of-control police, not merely locally, but globally. The brutally damaged face of Kelly dying in the hospital became an iconic image showing the depth of depravity to which law enforcement in our country has stooped. This was then followed by report after report of other victims of Fullerton police brutality: assaults, battery, false imprisonment, sexual assault, false arrest, perjury. Few if any of these crimes by the police were prosecuted, as if police officers in the City of Fullerton were far above the laws they ostensibly enforce. It wasn’t that long ago. OC Weekly did a whole cover story on “The Bullies in Blue.” Do you remember? You should. Your police force was the shame of the nation.
I’m sure you remember the name Kelly Thomas, because the citizens have insisted that you don’t forget. Do you remember the following names? Veth Mam. Andrew Trevor Clarke. Edward Quinonez. Emmanuel Martinez.Christopher Spicer Janku. How about the nameless victims of Albert Rincon, Vincent Mater, John Cross, and many others whom you “support” and now publically ♥?
Mr. Chafee and Ms. Quirk-Silva, do you know there were others brutalized by the police who were too afraid to talk, even to us? That they told us stories of being randomly assaulted but refused to go public because of fear that they would be falsely accused and charged if they did? How many others are out there, severely assaulted, beaten, and tortured by “our” police?
These crimes were committed by individual members of the Fullerton police, but the lack of investigations, adequate disciplinary measures (would anything less than firing be appropriate when you look at the details of these cases?), or reports on what the department leadership is going to do to prevent these things from happening again has NOT been forthcoming. All we have as evidence that the department has supposedly reformed – righted these wrongs, fired the brutalizers, implemented mechanisms to ensure that none of this can happen again – is their word. Is that word really good enough, given the severity of the crimes?
We need some type of law enforcement in Fullerton, but we need law enforcement that does not commit harm against the public. This is not a political stance, this is a public right – as basic and elementary a right as we have. The public’s right to safety from its own police comes before loyalty to an institution of government, before political alliances, before personal friendships with officers or officials, before the considerations of endorsements or campaign contributions or ideology or anything else. As elected officials you must serve the public and serving us means protecting us – in this case, from our police department who have shown that they are fully capable of inflicting grievous harm upon vulnerable citizens.
I do not understand how one can in good conscience embrace, love, or unconditionally support an institution that has a history of violently committing harm against the public. Voting your conscience or your beliefs on the issue of soliciting a bid from a rival law enforcement institution is one thing. Expressing love and support for an institution that has repeatedly hurt innocent members of the public, in front of a room swarming with police officers and their supporters, is a slap in the face to the victims and to the citizens of your city.
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And “ostensibly” was for you, Mr. Peabody.
Do you love the OCSD?
So, if I don’t like one group of LEOs I must love another? So, I get to pick – like, I hate the CIA so I must love the FBI? Is that how this works?
“I hate the CIA so I must love the FBI? Is that how this works?”……… Hmmmmm
You can like KGB!
No, but unless you choose to have no law enforcement officers at all, you will be choosing among various law enforcement institutions. I sympathize with your cri de couer here, but if everything you say about FPD is as true of OCSD, Brea Police, etc., then it doesn’t really help determine a path.
Yes, we’d all like people — cops, CEOs, etc. — to do better jobs. But to me “we ♥ Fullerton P.D.” doesn’t necessarily mean that one doesn’t want to see it reform; it can also mean that one agrees that “we need law enforcement that does not commit harm against the public” and one believes, rightly or wrongly, that reforming the F.P.D. is the best way to achieve that.
Lots of people below make bold statements that the F.P.D. are beyond salvaging, but I don’t see much reason to give those statements credence — especially as the talk of the meeting was not along the lines you present here, but mostly about cost-cutting and, implicitly, weakening unions.
Who the hell are you and why do you care about the corrupt police union in Fullerton?
My name’s out there for people to see. Who the hell are you?
On 90%+ of the days I drive somewhere, I drive through Fullerton. Plus, I’m a citizen of the world, etc.
I think you are a citizen of Dumfuckistan.
I believe that you not only think that, but that you believe that your saying so is a rational contribution to the discussion.
Please don’t feed the idiots.
Kelly Thomas Does Not Love The Fullerton PD.
In Fact He Wants Them Gone.
Bring in Officers of the PEACE
The FPD belongs IN an institution 🙁 It’s disgusting and not trustworthy. Time to get the rfp to OCSD and move forward, not sideways, not backwards.
The FPD has told us with their own actions and words, that they are NOT to be trusted. Wake up people, heed the message, it’s not going to get better.
shit i still cant believe ron thomas sayin he supports the fpd.
And this aint some crazy made up JOHN DOE shit.
HE SAID IT, AND I SAID WHAT THE FUCK!!!
I agree. Very strange. Very suspicious. FPD pummeled his kid and turned his face into spaghetti. And the old man gives FPD the thumbs up?
This deserves to be monitored. It truly does.
Poor old Ron Thomas has completely lost it. Just let him rest in peace.
civil suit will reward him for all the years of trouble his son gave him.
EVER HEARD OF THE EXPRESSION ‘DON’T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER’
Seems to me I’ve heard that before.
The only difference between Chafee, Quirk and the cops is that Chafee and Quirk don’t wear badges and carry guns. But they are brothers and sisters at heart.
Oh, btw, I am wondering about Sebourne too after the way he voted last meeting on the OCSD bid request.
Bottom line is that you can’t trust these people any further than you could throw them.
SEBOURNE SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS BLOG!!! COWARD
I am just a “flat lander” explain to me why, I fear the FPD, and would not call them, even if I needed help. The FPD must be very bored right now, because we have a low crime rate. “THAT’S BECAUSE NOBODY CALLS THEM FOR HELP”. As I see it a “Fart in the Face” will not help us. We need an educated police force.
There has be Money Getting Handed Out in Envelopes of Cash – this would be the only way to explain anyone professing their love for the Fullerton Police Department – I’d be OK – if they just said “I Love ♥ Cash” – instead – Just be Honest OK!
I don’t doubt what you say for a second.
How many incidents since the “clean up” in the last 13 months? Thought so. Get used to it. FPD is staying. Tony can buy Fullerton but not the police. Donuts forever. Bring on November so Fullerton can buy their city back from the slumlord Tony. 🙂
I like the way you think buddy. Tony is just sore because FPD would not hire his nephew. Also the arrest of his dimwitted brother George.https://ocapps.occourts.org/Vision_Public/DisplayCaseInfo.do?caseobjid=1345175261030&src=case_src
Let’s see how long my posts last Tony loves to put the kibosh on my 1st Amendment Rights. If you guys can dish it out you must be able to take it.
Kiger’s been cited by Fullerton Police a bunch of times….no wonder he hates them!
See for yourself.
the first amendment is for the govt. you can be told to stfu by anyone else. so..stfu
What happened to Kelly Thomas’s First Amendment rights? And Fourth, and Fifth and Fourteenth?
Oh, yeah. Right.
Glad you brought up that trumped up case. FFFF did a story on it. A perfect example of FPD harassment. Of course the DA dropped the case because there were no witnesses, no evidence, and no crime.
Even more importantly the FPOA advertised the case as they did with Andrew Trevor Clark. This is how the union tries to intimidate their opponents. Of course when THEY commit felonies, we are not privileged to know anything about them.
You must be bloated trio: Goodrich. Or Coffman. Or Kirk.
Defendant: Cicinelli, Jay Patrick
Case Status: Open
Case Stage: – Release Status: Released on Bond DMV Hold: N
Charging Document: Information Mandatory Appearance: Y Amendment #: 0
CASE INFOHEARING INFORELEASE INFOSENTENCING
2 counts found, displaying all counts.1
Seq S/A Violation Date Section Statute OL Violation Plea Plea Date Disposition Dispo Date
2 0 07/05/2011 192(b) PC F Involuntary Manslaughter NOT GUILTY 07/13/2012
3 0 07/05/2011 149 PC F Assault and battery by officer NOT GUILTY 07/13/2012
One co-defendant found.1
Name Release Status Status Date
Ramos, Manuel Anthony Released on Bond 09/30/2011
5 professionals found, displaying all professionals.1
Role Badge Agency Name
District Attorney OCDA Rackauckas, Anthony J. Jr
District Attorney OCDA Tanizaki, Jim
Retained Attorney RETAT Hadden, Wm.
Retained Attorney RETAT Schwartz, Michael D.
District Attorney OCDA Bogardus, Keith
fullertonians voted out apathy. What do you represent.
Why don’t you crawl back into your boat’s cabin with your dog?
Meant for O’Malley
How many incidents since the “clean up” in the last 13 months? Thought so. Get used to it. FPD is staying. Tony can buy Fullerton but not the police. Donuts forever. Bring on November so Fullerton can buy their city back from the slumlord Tony.
FEAR!!!! How many times has the FPD Farted in your face?
Love that fart story. Best ever. 🙂
@Reality Is..n’t stated, “Love that fart story. Best ever.”
Thank you for your revealing comment. As usual, your lack of character is in plain view for all to see. Unfortunately, your lack of character is no longer a surprise to many of us; however, your lack of character IS a very sad commentary on the quality of law enforcement personnel and management.
But, then maybe you think Fear of the police, is a good thing.That way they can just sit on their asses, and do nothing for a paycheck.
Doug Chafee is sick and tired of having to pay for his own election. He needs union support for his staying on council. Sharon thinks she can become an assemblywoman. She needs money for her hopes and dreams to come true.
“Money is the mothers milk of politics” Jesse Unrah.
Jesse knew, he ran the state from his speaker’s podium in Sacramento.
Until money is no longer a factor in elections, we will get the same slimeball lies that allow people to say one thing when running for election and then do the opposite after election!
Yep. The ways the political system is run is not much different from mexican politics. The mexicans are only a little more honest about it. The bribes don’t go under the table. They go above the table in plain sight. And down in Mexico you hand the cop a Jackson or two and he rips up your ticket. Here, for a rolling stop, you pay $450, get a 20% increase in your insurance rates and pay enough in taxes so that the cop who gave you the ticket can retire at 53 with a $2M-$5M pension. I would prefer the mexican system myself if I had a choice.
@Reality Is…n’t states, “How many incidents since the “clean up” in the last 13 months?”
A DEEP CLEANING is necessary at the Fullerton Police Dept.. We need to fumigate, top to bottom, in order to clean up the evil and corruption that is hiding and lying in wait for its next victims.
So far, we haven’t even begun to sweep the filth and secrets out from under the rugs at the FPD.
The “clean up” so far has not been transparent, thorough, nor complete. The cockroaches are still in the building and they are still spreading disease; they must be held accountable, fumigated and removed.
the thing is the fpd will beat rob rape kill you, and the problem is, is so will the sheriff.
but the sheriff will cost us less.
OCSD will only cost less if you order the “lower level of service” option.
Fewer cops on the streets will somehow increase police brutality – is that your theory? Will less $ for military gear for police mean more excessive force too?
Fewer cops on the street is a more sure bet to increase civilian brutality to other civilians, but yes it can lead to more police brutality as well if officers feel outnumbered and so reach more quickly for their strongest ammunition.
Have you thought about asking those in poorer Fullerton communities how they feel about fewer police being on patrol? I presume that you care what they think.
You really don’t have a fucking clue what you are talking about, do you?
“You really don’t have a fucking clue”……… Hmmmmm
I think that Golem has clue but he has no fucking.
Actually, I do, T*ny. That’s why I explain, while you only bellow.
I am not Tony, you idi*t.
People keep saying that you’re Tony. Can so many FFFFmen be wrong?
(Personally, I think that it’s Fred and Cameron and Down on the Farm and others who are Tony, but admittedly he doesn’t make it easy to check.)
Either way, you confuse bellowing with rational argument.
Greg, you are soooo annoying!
There is no proven correlation between numbers of officers in a jurisdiction per capita or per area and crime rates. Period.
“There is no proven correlation between numbers of officers in a jurisdiction per capita or per area and crime rates”………. Hmmmmm
More COPs you have more crime because COPs commit crime overtly as well as covertly.
How would you know that?
I’ve talked to people from Yorba Linda, for one.
“OCSD will only cost less if you order the ‘lower level of service’ option.”………. Hmmmmm
The initial overhead, which is the major cost, is shared by volume. So the cost is lower/sq. mill. if OCSD has more territory to service.
However, until we will dismantle the union power noting will help.
To accomplish that we must not support left-liberal-progressive-bolsheviks like Golem.
Make the DTF separate from the City PD. Make the DTF businesses pay for there own policing. Like the Angel stadium or Diseyland or the Honda Center. It can be the same cops, but different money bucket. Raise taxes for DTF businesses for their own police force. Great job for police officiers “Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night”. Businesses can pay extra for jail rental use, “Drunk Tank”. Just a thought.
“Mr. Thomas left a real impression on me,” Brossmer said. “He’s a very sincere person, obviously whose gone through a traumatic loss. Like a lot of speakers, he really resonates with me. I’ll be honest, I asked after the meeting about what I could do. Since they have filed a federal suit against the city, it really restricts what we can say. Federal court is very strict.”
When you call 911, you should not care what logo is on vehicle or the badge of the responder. It should be someone responsible and trained adequately to handle the situation. This goes for the PD and the FD. Sorry to throw the FD in this, but many cities are combining resources to save money. I support the decision to outsource AFTER the council decides how much per resident they should pay for the PD. If the PD does not agree, then get a quote for outsourcing. I am acutely aware of the shortcomings of the FPD of late, and I do believe in reform and I do think we should give them one last chance at reform and hold a VERY short leash on them.
How much each resident should pay? I am thinking the citizens have paid millions and millions! That lovely illegal water tax money probably used to pay off the lawsuits brought on by the thugs that work at FPD! lmao C’mon now! Why would we give them another chance? Another chance to kill/maim/beat/rape someone else??? Um, I vote NO.
Great post Fullertonista!
I was wondering when there would be a post to vent about this.
I’m so impressed with your articles. This one is even better than the last.
You’re right to the point – precisely defining all the issues. My family and neighbors strongly agree with your conclusions – perhaps you should call a round table of sorts with discussion and lead us all in further dialogue over what is happening here in Fullerton. Your sound, principled and clear – we value that immensely- and frankly, some folks on this blog should take lessons from you.
Who are you? Why aren’t you running for city council?
Thank you for the kind words. In consultation with my friends and colleagues we think it best I stay anonymous and out of city politics directly, but I will keep shining a light and urging my fellow citizens to stay involved!
Kelly Thomas, globally…yessssss. You are starting to wake up, maybe? You think morality, ethics and honor works on these fucks, it doesn’t, which is why the founders gave us the 2nd Amendment. Work required! You’ll eventually understand, but for now you are a community of sycophants helplessly sequestered by ignorance and your unwillingness to see past your nose. Poor babies.
Ah, you didn’t censor me this time. People like me come in handy when you need organization and education to address your 2nd Amendment apathy, just this help will only be realized AFTER the crisis unless you get very motivated to deal with this NOW.
everyone knows what the second is. some just aren’t obsessed. do you get a stiffy when you load up?
EVERYONE IS CORRUPT. THE SYSTEM IS UNREPAIRABLE. IT’S ALL OVER.
SAD BUT I AGREE
Yes Fullertonista you are wise and well spoken. Keep up the good work and bring on the November elections.
I STILL do want to hear from sebourn. You sir are a coward and a poor excuse for the lack of moral trepidation you demonstrated last week. You will never see my vote again.
I do think Fullerton will be a better place and set the example of how to “vote the bums” out in Nov and into 2013. I think the winds of change are a blowing here in town.
I don’t heart Fullerton police department. And you boys had better be looking for work because the citizens have had it with police corruption and brutalities. You might have purchased the department a little time but the citizens of Fullerton will be making changes. In this nation the majority rules.
Exactly..and you fffer’s are not the majority.
And you are? Go drop another deuce.
No not him jackass, but the city of Fullerton is.
FFFFer’s consist of about 20-30 “people” that bark and bitch about everything. Hardly a majority.
As far a Quirk-Silva goes, she has seemed to attempt to walk the line between support for the system and reform in Fullerton. She now seeks to walk the line between support for the system and reform in our state government; just as the state ledgislature has done for the past 30 years. This has lead us to the current state of our state.
Chaffee, on the other hand, has made a tremendous political error in wearing that blue shirt on the dias. There is a reason that judges wear those silly black robes. It is to exhude an air of impartial authority which we can all hope the judges actually live up to. Chaffee is a lawyer, he knows this.
By wearing that blue shirt, particularly with his foreknowledge, he has demonstrated that he is not sitting on the dias to make decissions impartially for the people of Fullerton, but has decided for the institution of the Fullerton Police Department in its recent and present form.
For the remainder of his tenure, Chaffee may make no decission on discipline of the FPD, no selection of chief, no approval of a contract, without this photo surfacing. It will show that he is a “blue shirt” and will never be worthy of wearing a black robe.
Enjoy your tenure, Doug.
Yeah, it didn’t take Chafee and Sebourn long to sell out, did it?
I agree with your take on Chafee. Very bold wearing that blue shirt on the dias. I don’t know what he was thinking. He’s not a stupid man. He wasn’t elected on a police vote. He was elected with an anti-police vote. I guess he thinks the police union money will guarantee his reelection. Maybe that’s why he sold out. But it’s quite a gamble. If I lived in Fullerton he wouldn’t get my vote after wearing that blue shirt. I don’t give a damn how many glossy campaign foldouts he sent to my home. When he put that blue shirt on he crossed the line. Really dumb IMO. But he rolled the dice. Let’s see if it comes up snakes eyes.
I don’t think Sebourn is running again in Nov. He must be hoping that the voters have short memories. When he campaigned for office he seemed to be in favor of taking an OCSD bid. A month later he voted it down. Voter don’t take to flip floppers kindly. His next opponent has a perfect attack ad opportunity. If the people forget all you got to do is remind them. One glossy in the mail would do it.
Good point. It also violates Council policy about advocating policy through clothing.
Chaffee is a fool; worse, he is an old fool; worst he is now a demonstrated union puppet.
Nida’s looking for Justice http://s9.postimage.org/57pjk224v/IMG_7248.jpg
“We deserve every penny we get” http://postimage.org/image/4u7bq02d3/
What the shirts needed to say …http://s14.postimage.org/rm7vbpm69/IMG_7244.jpg
Ghosts from Fullertons past http://s7.postimage.org/h2plepzi3/IMG_7242.jpg
Blue shirt peacemaker or perpetuator http://s18.postimage.org/brf6wbiy1/IMG_7258.jpg
Blues brothers protecting thier generous paychecks
Prior to the Kelly Thomas beating death by Fullerton police officers in full view of the public at a bus station on 11th July 2011, life-long Fullerton resident and executive director of the Orange County Human Relations Commission (OCHRC), Rusty Kennedy, promoted his commission’s mission was to act as a “clearinghouse” for Orange County’s communities’ complaints of police abusing their civil rights and to “mediate” these abuses between the Orange County community and their respective police forces.
For the last twenty years or more, OCHRC has proclaimed its police-community oriented program a success in promoting better relations between communities and the police. In 1999 Rusty Kennedy gave then Fullerton Police Chief Pat McKinley an award and a thousand dollars for successfully implementing OCHRC police-community oriented program.
“OC Weekly did a whole cover story on “The Bullies in Blue.” Do you remember? You should. Your police force was the shame of the nation.
I’m sure you remember the name Kelly Thomas, because the citizens have insisted that you don’t forget. Do you remember the following names? Veth Mam. Andrew Trevor Clarke. Edward Quinonez. Emmanuel Martinez.Christopher Spicer Janku. How about the nameless victims of Albert Rincon, Vincent Mater, John Cross, and many others whom you “support” and now publically ♥?
Mr. Chafee and Ms. Quirk-Silva, do you know there were others brutalized by the police who were too afraid to talk, even to us? That they told us stories of being randomly assaulted but refused to go public because of fear that they would be falsely accused and charged if they did? How many others are out there, severely assaulted, beaten, and tortured by “our” police?”
One of the biggest quirks in Rusty Kennedy’s OCHRC’s police-community oriented program is this fact; a prominent member of law enforcement on Rusty Kennedy’s OCHRC was none other than then Fullerton Police Chief Pat McKinley who is known for creating a culture of corruption in Fullerton’s police force evidenced by the fact McKinley hired and protected many of the rogue officers who terrorized and beat down the good people of Fullerton.
A few months after Kelly Thomas was murdered by Fullerton police officers, people started asking why the Orange County Human Relations seemed unaware of this abuse considering the close ties between its executive director , Rusty Kennedy and Fullerton city council person and recently retired Fullerton Police Chief(1993 to 2009) Pat McKinley.
After public outrage from the Kelly Thomas murder, Rusty Kennedy’s OCHRC facebook stated his commission’s police-community oriented program now only concerns itself with low-level police abuses, like “rudeness” from a police officer towards the community of Orange County.
Someone needs to ask Rusty Kennedy some hard questions.
And this is my opinion
Rusty Kennedy is a waterboy for the cops.
His specialty is caucasion skinheads.
If you can’t see that by now you’re blind.
Fullertonista, your talent is your piercing insight into the issues surrounding the city of Fullerton. If you were on Fullerton’s city council or sat on the OC board of supervisors , then maybe Kelly Thomas would be alive today
Nice shot of Jan Flory shallow in thought, but where’s the broomstick?
Nice to see Flory is consistent. 15 years later and she’s still wearing nylon muu-muus.
Washu lookin’ at? I said WASHU LOOKIN’ AT?!
@68. Could you please expand and explain? Thanks!
Doug Chaffee wearing the I love FPD t shirt on the council dais was a disgrace. He is supposed to be neutral.
But it was very funny. He looks like a little mole-man in a blue sweater.
I got arrested after my Ex told the cops I choked her. Fuck the police….
Then you shouldnt have chocked her idiot.
Chocking never solves anything…unless it’s chocking the chicken.
I don’t always chock. But when I do, I prefer the Heimstick manure. Stay hypoxic my friends.
Doug Chafee and Sharon: Today, if you read the business newspapers, and I doubt you do, Moody’s Investor Services announced that it is reviewing the finances of many California cities. While the list is secret, it is no secret that medium size cities like Fullerton will be at the top of the list for review. No they won’t go to Joe Felz. But they will have an easy time in any Google review of what is happening in Fullerton. As they look at the unfunded liabilities, they will announce ratings watch first, then ratings downgrades next. So be on the look out! Your vote to not impact the wages of FPD by more than 6/10 of 1% will be available to them. It will be more than made up by the cost of borrowing due to your poor balance sheet and unfunded or underfunded liabilities.
This is your first and fair warning. Don’t say you did not know about this. Yes go running to Joe Felz for reassurance but he is not a municipal bond expert! This will blow up during your term in office!
“Don’t say you did not know about this. Yes go running to Joe Felz for reassurance but he is not a municipal bond expert!”
You got that right. He isn’t an expert on anything. He got his start handing out volleyballs at the park.
I think it is the level of discourse that you deserve. And I suggest that your student visa has expired and you should return to Dumbfuckistan ASAP.
Oooh! “Discourse”! You have been to college! And you’re doing the alma mater proud!
“Oooh! ‘Discourse’! You have been to college!”…….. Hmmmmmm
Based on my Bohemian college Golem, it spells rather “Intercourse” as in fuck so by substituting for correct word it means:
“I think it is the level of fuck up that you deserve”.
I love that people here tolerate your presence so well, Stanley.
I bet you would love it even more if anybody even knew who the hell you are.
BTW, who are you?
I’m using my real name and someone anonymous asks me who I am. FFFF in a nutshell.
He is a Government agent and here is his secret number. Click on it. #256598
“I love that people here tolerate your presence so well, Stanley.”……. Hmmmmm
I hate that people here tolerate your presence so well, Golem.
What in the world is a “Bohemian college Golem?”
Please explain. I think I’ve got the Bohemian and college parts.
Golem is a Jewish mud man.
Very well written article. It’s amazing how many people support government institutions blindly. The people in Fullerton who are calling to support a corrupt, dangerous police force are likely many of the same people who say you have to support war if you are patriotic, and that if you support gay marriage you condone molestation and beastiality.
Doug Chaffee is a whore!
That was stupid. Did you run out of things to say.
I just saw the clip of a suppossed city council representitive, clearly take sides with the very same party he is suppossed to be negociating with as a representitive of the people.
I find it both unethical, disgusting and self serving.
I have plenty to say John. I think that sitting on the panel that is suppossed to mediate (on behalf of the citizentry) and represent the people and wearing a tee shirt like that is akin to an MLB umpire wearing a Yankee’s cap.
What the fuck is the matter with you that you don’t realize that by wearing an I LOVE FPD shirt this fool has just sold out.
I am sick and tired of ball lickers like you and Diamond making excuses for these POA’s (and I notice, the later never took on his own cities POA for an equally egregious MURDER) and then crying foul when people with soe skin in the game speak out.
So please tell e how an elected official wearing a tee shirt in support of the very people he is charged with paying is not prostitution.
Step up John. I can’t wait for you and the other Brea folks to explain what we need to do.
I have plenty to say, I just try and reserve them for instances:
A) Where it matters
B) Where I get pissed
C) When I feel like it
I don’t care if you are pissed. People on this blog are just a very small percentage of Fullerton citizens. You saw how they all came in numbers to support the FPD. I was one of them. If that is what it took to change the council’s mind, Fullerton is in great shape. Bootlickers, ok so. I rather have Fullerton Police than OCSD. So if you want to be a hater, knock yourself out. It looks like your hero Ron Thomas is all up Chief Hughes ass now. Money talks, bullshit walks. So he gave all you the middle finger and he is gone just like so many said he would.
Try to catch him at Anaheim or Downey now. And by the way I live in Fullerton, not Brea.
“ball lickers” — great, I get to put a marker down on “homophobia” on my FFFF bingo card.
It’s not “prostitution” because it’s not exchanging sex for money. And one can be both for reforming the FPD and for retaining it — which is my current position. Too subtle for you?
“I get to put a marker down on “homophobia” on my FFFF bingo card”……… Hmmmmm
If Esq. Golem does not threaten public with antisemitism he will threaten with virtually any left-liberal-progresive politically correct vocabulary.
Therefore, Esq. Golem is probably most dangerous individual in the OC who is assaulting US constitution and its inherent freedoms which is clearly apparent from his hate speech comments here in “F”FFF.
John Doe- Very clearly you and your union Brethren care if I am pissed. That’s why you rounded up your families and had TEE-SHIRTS printed. The FPOA is scared shitless the gravytrain will be coming to a halt. A train, me and my kids are stuck with paying the fare.
As for a small percentage, enough to RECALL three failed leaders rturned up…right.
I don’t know if the OCSD is the answer, but researching it certainly is. And doing it now is both responsible and prudent.
When you buy a car, you compare. test drive different makes and models. That’s for a thirty thousand dollar Prius, and you expect a city not to begin researching a potential $10M sale? Crazy
What the fuck “homophobe” you are a gay baiter, a jew-baiter and and all around pain in the ass. The good part is is you have ABSOLUTELY NO SAY, you don’t vote here. You Don’t live here, And I doubt in my lifetime you will ever represent Fulerton in any capacity.
The sad part is, I bet you have some great ideas, I bet you (somewhere deep down inside) have the capacity to be fair and reasonable. But, from what I have read, you are a rabble-rouser, with no other agenda than stir up a bunch of shit. You are a Shill.
Stop picking apart every sentence, use some humility, it would go a long way. Seriously, you are wasting away whatever credibility you have.
You are ignorant in terms of “BALL LICKING”, it has nothing to do with sexuality. It is a euphanism for being a pussy.
It worked jerk off. Now get off my ass for the next three years….Bahahahaha!!!
Jump on the train buddy, It will be a smooth ride.
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read on any blog, anywhere. I defer to you Teabaggers in these matters.
Who said I am a Tea bagger?
I am a independent Democrat, never swayed by party hacks like you and NEVER fooled by empty canidates like Sharron Silva.
You are cut from the same cloth as those you argue with, replace Teaparty maniac, with Occupy Fanatic and there you have Greg Diamond.
It doesn’t matter which side of an arguement you are on………WHEN YOU ARE WRONG.
The main issue is that no one is ever wrong on this blog. You notice that? So you have a group of 20 people that are never wrong. How much progress can be made? None. Exactly.
Someone else will have to explain the colloquialism “tea bagger” to you.
Not quite right. Dumpster Diver is not a fanatic. He is just a poor little man who desperately needs to be important. He will keep reappearing anywhere somebody pays him heed. But his efforts are futile. His life is inevitably self-destructive. Failed marriages, failed careers, well, just failure in life.
This is a pathetic neurotic. Pity him. But leave him a lone. He needs help.
“STRUMMIN’ my PAIN with his FINGERS, SINGIN’ my LIFE with his WORDS!”
Classic FFFF — speaking from lack of knowledge under cloak of anonymity to people too lazy to do more than absorb lies.
Thanks for leaving me the “lone,” though!
“’BALL LICKING’, it has nothing to do with sexuality. It is a euphanism for being a pussy (…) This is one of the funniest things I have ever read on any blog”………. Hmmmmmm
Are you saying Golem that licking your balls would be synonymous term as in licking your pussy?
And if so would that pussy have “Bris Milah” clit?
Can you imagine folks that Esq. Golem could actually be Dr. Golem if he would check different box on his university application?
And by doing so he would be qualified to check your prostate?
If anything we should learn that like Anaheim the Country and the world, is a tinderbox regarding malfeasance by Officials and Law Enforcement.
We needed the Sheriffs proposal, FPD is way past its last strike. Should and WHEN another occurrence happens in Fullerton, the breaking of the FPD contract, and getting outside help will quell most any situation.
The buisness’ in Fullerton have already suffered very dire consequences and in this state of our economic climate, could leave forever like so so many have already.
Fullerton needs to be strong and cannot tolerate continued malfeasance.
Malfeasance in office, or official misconduct, is the commission of an unlawful act, done in an official capacity, which affects the performance of official duties. -Wikipedia
Example: A company hires a catering company to provide drinks and food for a retirement party. If the catering company doesn’t show up, it’s considered nonfeasance. If the catering company shows up but only provides drinks (and not the food, which was also paid for), it’s considered misfeasance. If the catering company accepts a bribe from its client’s competitor to undercook the meat, thereby giving those present food poisoning, it’s considered malfeasance.
Wow, what a great comparsion. We can shut it down and you run the City of Fullerton…Especially the police department. What a joke.
A good friend and servant, would not and could not eat “ALL THE CITIES DONUTS” (Literally and Fiscally)
JD say this a million times “ME ME ME ME ME”
Yea, “chocked” the ‘c’ is not even close to the “k” johnnie GEDoe
Just posting as a “comparsion” of johnGEDoe speak; Careful johnnie, you wouldn’t want people thinking you are an idiot, would you?
He’ll forever be known as Chock Doe to me.
The fact that Chafee is wearing the shirt just smacks of the old boys’ attitude and network that we MUST continue to break apart.