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The Cops As Victims; The OC Register as Useful Idiot

See that guy over there? He doesn't have a bomb. But he might someday!

Here’s a comical OC Register post from today. I say comical somewhat tongue-in-cheek because almost all Register posts and articles are comical these days.

According to this one, the intrepid journalist Doug Irvine tried to squeeze some information out of the DA – such as the names of the cops who beat on Kelly Thomas’s head like a kettle drum with their taser handles.

Two officers were treated for broken bones. I mean there was a bomb. I mean....aw Hell let's just go get donuts...

The response from our Do-nothing DA? Oooooh! We have so many scary threats these days that we just can’t say anything. Well, there was one, at least!

Of course over at the the beleaguered FPD, spokesbozo Andrew Goodrich supplied his comrades at The Register with a scary bomb threat story (nothing was found, of course). Poor babies.

Jeezus, you wouldn’t think such heavily-armed and highly trained experts would be so easily intimidated, now would you? Apparently they are weak as kittens when the chips are down, even with their McKinley vests, and this justifies the ongoing secrecy. The logic is inescapable, right?

The funny thing is to observe how the Register writer, rather than take the useless DA and FPD to task for their obvious lack of transparency, turns his article into a weepy sob story about the poor, defenseless cops. And of course the fact of the DA spending more time on threats to his office because of his lackluster investigation than on the investigation itself just drips with irony. Could that irony really be lost on Mr. Irving. It would appear so.

Here’s the money quote that references our humble blog:

The District Attorney’s Office also cited as a threat an entry on the Friends for Fullerton’s Future blog, which has dug into the Kelly Thomas case: “Someone should make these officers contact information and addresses public.”

Blogger Travis Kiger said that wasn’t a threat, and said he hasn’t seen any specific threats on the Friends for Fullerton’s Future blog. He challenged the District Attorney Office’s decision to keep the names secret.

“They release the names of suspected criminals every single day,” he said. “I don’t understand in this case how it would be any different.”

The District Attorney’s Office is “looking into” the one alleged threat that it received, Chief of Staff Susan Kang Schroeder said. Fullerton Police are “taking the threats seriously” but have no active criminal investigations into them, Goodrich said.

“They’ve all been anonymous in nature,” he said. “They would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to track.”

You’ve got to be kidding. Just goes to show you the extent to which the “law enforcement” establishment will go to protect its safety (or pretend to) while blowing off our safety – from them! And when the cops release information about suspects do they give a rat’s ass about their safety? Of course they don’t.

So did the FPD really receive a bomb threat? Who knows? But it’s gotten impossible to believe a single solitary thing that emanates from Andrew Goodrich’s mouth.

431 thoughts on “The Cops As Victims; The OC Register as Useful Idiot

  1. Latest dirt I heard today was that kelly thomas put one of the cops not named as one of THE SIX on permenent disability. I laughed so hard, the guy who was telling methis got offended. The truth will come out.

    1. … and two of the ‘officers’ were treated for fractured bones. Kelly was on his belly with the blue gang on his back, These coward apes look like they live at the gym. They broke each-others’ bones….think ?

      1. Those cowardly baboons look like blubbery unfit hefers-wonder what they do a the gym -besides swing on the monkey bars? eat?
        I’d run too if a couple of fat loads who outweighed me by 100# with badges said to me “see these hands? they are the hands that are going to kick you ass today”

    2. Ok Ruckiebaby, let’s see the evidence photos of the cop’s hands. While you’re at it, let’s see the x-rays of all of these purported broken bones. If they indeed broke bones in their hands, they did it to themselves!!!

  2. …it’s gotten impossible to believe a single solitary thing that emanates from Andrew Goodrich’s mouth.”

    This is true.

  3. More horse$hit to keep the focus off.

    When do we get a statement from the D.A?
    45 days? (nope)
    60 days?
    90 days?
    120 days?

    What the fu{k are they waiting for? Spider man?

    1. They are (and I’m stating the obvious here) waiting for the sturm und drang to die down before further attempting to whitewash the whole event. It’s right out of PR 101. Unfortunately, this blog and the continuing attempts by its authors to divide us all with the ‘repuglican’ bullshit is playing right into their hand. What a bummer it will be if this crew’s petty partisanship derails the potential here to do some good on a much higher level.

  4. As I’ve said a million times and now it’s even more clear, you don’t dictate anything. The more you try to flex your kok, the more they will smash your kok into the ground. This anti police blog isn’t consistent with how normal people think. You are wearing out your message and you are starting to turn people against you because of your anti police beliefs no matter what the topic or situation. You are the same as the biggest racists in the world. You are the same as the Hispanic race groups. You are blind to reality. The only thing you see is what you want to see without considering the facts. Normal people are waiting patiently for the process to play out properly. As the racist groups do, your message is being drowned out by your clear anti police message no matter what happened here, before, or in the future. Keep it up. I’m enjoying everyone laughing in your face.

    1. Ummm, not to be rude, but if you have said something “a million times” and people are still ignoring you or telling you how stupid you are, don’t you think that the laughing might actually be in YOUR FACE???

      By the way, you apparently don’t “dictate anything” on this board, either, since the vast majority here are ANTI-brutality and PRO-humanity and human rights as opposed to your feeble argument (whatever that is — you aren’t articulate enough to state it clearly).

      I’m a “normal person,” but I am running out of patience waiting for the process to “play out properly” when any “normal group of persons” who committed such an atrocity would have already been indicted.

      1. Keep feeling that way based on your little group of anti police whack jobs circle jerk opinions. Facts will show innocence. Get used to it.

          1. Yes. PR move to satisfy the little minority group of activists. Then one cop medically retires, and the other one gets off free due to a brain injury. Case closed. Then run off to the next city.

    2. Actually ..no.. I have made sure my fire arms (legal) are cleaned and in working order. My vehicles have working lights, registration stickers in place, insurance cards proper and in vehicle (always have been) and my new dash camera is installed with full audio. I have installed extra security on the doors into my house and the window guy is comming to quote me on the adhesives that will not allow cops to bust out my windows and yell “POLICE POLICE” while they run into my house to kill me .. you can thank Jose Guerena’s murder by Pima County SWAT for that. As a former Marine and someone obama and holder listed as being a domestic terrorist (former military) but I guess he was right concerning sissynelli…. Sam Brownings finest invention sleeps inches from my head and legal weapons are just as close….. that is what “Reality Is” … there are lots of us legal citizens out there… sleep well because others than you are watching.

    3. This is not an Anti Cop blog. Just a lot of concerned citizens that want answers, not a cover up. And when good cops (and there are a lot of good cops) start to cover up for the bad ones, it ruins the reputation for the entire dept. And in this particular case, there was a cover up and thats just not acceptable. Furthermore, the PD and City tried to dismiss the concerns of the public and keep everyone in the dark. This blog has been the only thing keeping the Police Dept and City on their toes for once…

      1. You think it’s a big coverup that’s the problem. You also think they are all guilty already. No one cares what you think.

    4. Fuck You Reality…you fuckin house proud town mouse. Have you heard the news! Thomas is dead..you better stay at home and do as your told and stay out of the road if you want to grow old…before six PIGS beat your ass to hell.

          1. This blog should be fair to the good cops, after all, they are on our side. Lets not neglect our responsibility to them.

        1. I ♥ COPS on August 24, 2011
          Don’t fight or resist arrest and you got nothing to worry about.

          Yeah, that’s what they kept screaming at Kelly Thomas as they were beating his unconscious-face-down-handcuffed-body. STOP RESISTING! STOP RESISTING! Unfortunately he couldn’t hear them any longer as he was already slipping into a coma. Nothing to worry about? Nope, when you’re right, you’re right. Hard to worry when you are in a coma. Kelly wasn’t resisting anymore. He had long since been subdued. Just like you advised: He wasn’t resisting! Your advice sure saved his life didn’t it? Be sure and try to remember your own words when some badged apes are murdering you by beating your head into hamburger meat with the butt of a taser and against a curb.

          Heck, it might even improve that lopsided face of yours. No wonder cops cheat on their wives! You can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig.

        2. And never verbally disrespect them either, not matter how rude they are to us. Doesn’t matter that the Supreme Court has ruled we can even give them the finger under the First Amendment. And don’t film them either, if you know what is good for you. And screw the law too, right. Because just because we are obeying the law and can beat the rap, we can’t beat the wild ride of your criminal rampages committed under color of law.

          Screw you losers. People are fed up waiting for the DA and are ready for any of you who get out of line and violate our rights.

          1. I WORKED ON A CASE WHERE A DEPUTY FALSELY ARRESTED A FRIEND, IT WENT TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION. THE ONE DEPUTY INVOLVED WAS IMPLICATED IN WRITING A FALSE REPORT, FORGING HER SUPERVISOR’S SIGNATURE AND SHE WAS FORCED TO RESIGN IN LIEU OF TERMINATION. HER TRAINING OFFICER WAS DEMOTED AND KICKED OUT OF THE STATION HE WORKED AT. COME TO FIND OUT, HE WAS KICKED OUT OF EVERY STATION HE WORKED AT. HE WAS ALSO ON THE “DEPARTMENT’S RADAR” FOR A LONG TIME. LIES, FALSE ARREST RUINED THE FRIEND’S LIFE BUT THESE ASSHOLES DON’T CARE, SO WE FIGHT BACK AND DO SO IN WRITING!

    5. Reality Is on August 24, 2011

      Reality Is NOT said:As I’ve said a million times and now it’s even more clear, you don’t dictate anything. The more you try to flex your kok, the more they will smash your kok into the ground.

      And you think, what, that is an analogy? Perhaps your “kok” in on your shoulders?

      This anti police blog…

      Neither this blog nor the vast majority of posters here are “anti-police,” I for one am certainly anti-CORRUPTION>, and suspect the others here are too. We don’t pay taxes to support brutal steroid-hopped-up apes beating innocent people to death in the street, smashing out people’s life blood in gutters. You may think that is in the job description for police officers, but it is not in America. Syria maybe, Iran, and North Korea for certain, but NOT in America. We’ve got a Constitution in America! We’ve got a Bill of Rights to protect us from the tyrannical terrorists you work for. America, love it or leave it, baby! In fact, I personally volunteer to pay for your oneway ticket to Syria today, or North Korea, or Iran tomorrow, your choice. You’d fit right in to the police departments there. They would make you very ‘comfortable.’

      …isn’t consistent with how normal people think…

      And, what? Youthink YOU are normal? You think? Hummmm?

      You are wearing out your message and you are starting to turn people against you…

      No, we are keeping the message alive! That is why the protests keep growing. And, it scares the snot out of you and your morally corrupted bosses.

      because of your anti police beliefs…

      blah, blah, blah, and I use that expression specifically because you sound like a broken record spewing the same propagandistic LIES over, and over, and over, and over. You must hope to snare some unwary innocent first time reader here with your lies, but, anyone who reads more than one of your posts can see you are a lying propaganda toad for the FPD or one of their attorneys. Most people are smarter than you think. In fact MOST people are smarter than you.

      no matter what the topic or situation. You are the same as the biggest racists in the world.

      Another abortive attempt at analogy? Keep trying, maybe someday you will get.

      You are the same as the Hispanic race groups.

      Oh, golly, now an abortive metaphor! So? now you are displaying your own very REAL racism for one group of the American family. We are all Americans, even those Hispanics you hate so much.

      You are blind to reality. The only thing you see is what you want to see without considering the facts.

      You REALLY are talking about yourself now, right?

      Normal people are waiting patiently for the process to play out properly.

      “Normal people” again: A group with which you have no relationship whatsoever. You are trying to stall the citizens of Fullerton until the FPD and DA can whitewash this and hope people forget about it, which is exactly what scares them and you about the honest folk who are concerned about Kelly Thomas brutal murder at the hands of the FPD 6 and come here to learn more. You fear the citizens. You fear the public! You fear us for keeping the fight for TRUTH and JUSTICE alive. But, you fear The Truth most of all. That’s why you won’t feel secure until it is buried or destroyed by your pet DA. The only thing you are comfortable with is dark dank places where the sunshine of honesty and truth doesn’t shine, like the sewer rats you are.

      As the racist groups do, your message is being drowned out by your clear anti police message no matter what happened here, before, or in the future.

      Here is where I believe the blah, blah, blah is again appropriate. Don’t you agree? More repetition of lying filthy hate filled propaganda. Did you take lessons from Hitler, Stalin, or Mao? Oh! All three?

      Keep it up. I’m enjoying everyone laughing in your face.

      Thank you for your support. We will keep it up. Will you be paid anyway after the FPD 6 are sentenced and sent to a Federal Pen? Or, do you only get paid for results? Guess we will be the ones laughing at your sorry rat tail when you scurry away in defeat.

      Okay, you boys sicced your little name blight, Xer Cist on me (it appears you are now doing it to EyeNeverSayNo. Who’s next)? Then you sent your pretend whistle blower to try and discredit me, but it didn’t work, Bad Boyz. It backfired in YOUR faces. Now I am more determined than ever to keep posting truths here to blind out your nasty little red ratty eyes. I just was startin’ to get tired too. Appreciate the shot in the arm. Now prepare to be defeated in Courts of Law. The people demand it. The American People really don’t appreciate being treated by your kind like fools. You’ve underestimated them this time, Boyz.

    6. Yo, fuckwit! No one is paying attention to you whiney bitch cops! You guys said it all the night you beat Kelly to death!

    7. admin-another candidate for file 13-heads on a stick, after I stop LMAO from this person intimating that FFFF bloggers are as racist as antihispanic groups

        1. YEAH,BUT REALITY, YOU CAME FROM A DEFECTIVE GENE POOL BEFORE YOU EVER BECAME A COPPER. BEING A COPPER FINISHED THE JOB!

  5. N. E. One :
    Latest dirt I heard today was that kelly thomas put one of the cops not named as one of THE SIX on permenent disability. I laughed so hard, the guy who was telling methis got offended. The truth will come out.

    The County calls the disability leave as a “4850 safety benefit.” The LEO who read this blog can elaborate. It’s the icing on the cake for those who bullshit their way into a permanent disability claim. The current statistic is now 70% for L.A. County Sheriffs.

    1. Not surprisingly, only a miniscule portion of those permanent disablity retirements are taken BEFORE the year that the maximum retirement has been earned. A vast majority of them are taken precisely when that max retirement has been earned or only shortly after. Criminals ALWAYS loot on the maximum amount way out.

    2. Whoa, really? A malnourished unarmed mentally ill 130 pounder put one of these big, heavilly armed thugs on PERMANENT disabilty? If this is true it may be one of the biggest disgraces in all in this sorry ass’ed mess,

      1. Just goes to show that NONE of you really know what happened. If the officer isn’t fired and he is able to take that permanent disbility, it means that he has a permanent injury and doesn’t feel he can continue to fulfill his duties as a police officer.

        1. No, it simply means he found a doctor who was willing to write a report to that effect. Not exactly the same thing, Sparky.

          1. Check your facts, yet again. If you don’t know, don’t post.

            I don’t post anything I’m guessing about.

            I only post what I know.

            Wish everyone else would do the same.

        2. @21… yeah, right. Probably the same doctor who “cleared” a one-eyed rage-a-holic for active duty on the FPD…

    3. Exactly. Part of the process in this case. Gotta setup for the future in case a political move is made to run someone out the door in lieu of a criminal filing. Standard.

  6. Apparently this blog matters a lot, contrary to your opinion. In fact, it’s gotten under your skin so much that now you’ve reduced yourself to making ridiculous comparisons to some “racist groups,” whatever the hell that means.

    Do you mean like the KKK??? If so, I’m confused — they have spent a century or more advocating terror and violence against citizens. However, the majority on this blog (I’m excepting the tiny minority of cop-fellating-apologists like yourself) are outraged by violence committed against citizens under the authority of a badge.

    In other words, the ‘reality is’ that YouAreAMoron…

      1. Yes. Same as hispanics are that want driver’s licenses for free but they can’t get them because they are illegal aliens.

        1. Good to see that you are a racist as well as an ass hat. I thought you were just a socio-pathic prick, but now I see you are a human virus on every level. With all your rage and hatred, I can see now why you are here all the time representing the worst of society.

          Sorry, have to run and tell all my Hispanic friends that they are all “illegal aliens”. By the way, RealityIsHitler, are ALL Hispanics illegal aliens OR all illegal aliens Hispanic??? Or both, in your diseased brain?

      2. All class structure developes acording to resorce availability. Now we have a tsumani of young people (3 billion world wide added since 1980) 30 and younger wanting the same limited resorces everyone else wants, and now its becomeing aperent social heads are starting to butt globaly.

          1. Now at every level of society, people are clamering to get theirs and everyone seems to be stepping on each others toes and crawling on top of each other like ants. Any solutions everyone?

  7. Reality Is :
    As I’ve said a million times and now it’s even more clear, you don’t dictate anything. The more you try to flex your kok, the more they will smash your kok into the ground. This anti police blog isn’t consistent with how normal people think. You are wearing out your message and you are starting to turn people against you because of your anti police beliefs no matter what the topic or situation. You are the same as the biggest racists in the world. You are the same as the Hispanic race groups. You are blind to reality. The only thing you see is what you want to see without considering the facts. Normal people are waiting patiently for the process to play out properly. As the racist groups do, your message is being drowned out by your clear anti police message no matter what happened here, before, or in the future. Keep it up. I’m enjoying everyone laughing in your face.

    You mean you are laughing. No one I know, including a few LEO are even giggling about this.

    FAIL.

  8. This is deflection, misinformation, red herring….whatever you want to call it.

    It is unbelieveable that the DA is still playing this game, this deep into the scandal. It makes you wonder about the endgame.

    Can they wait out the public anger, hope for an earthquake, flood, suicide (you know Hampton’s thinking about eating a 9mm!) ect…

    Stunning the disregard for the situation and public that T-RACK has.

  9. I think the bomb already went off. What good is a PD that has no credibility in the community is serves? FPD is ruined.

    1. So does this mean if someone is breaking into your house, or harming your family in some way or your car gets stolen or broke into by some bum looking for money, you will not call the police, you won’t dial 911 because as per you the PD has no credibility and it’s ruined.

        1. You said Fullerton PD has no credibility… you didn’t say just the bad cops have no credibility so be sure to put your OPT OUT sign on your lawn and your car so that if something is going down with you or your family the FPD know NOT to help you in any way. Hey, that’s a good one “OPT OUT” all of you can opt out. Maybe come up with an OPT Out sign for your march this weekend… ha ha ha ha ha…… sometimes I crack myself up. Oh and it’s okay you called me a bitch, I’ve been called a lot worse by a lot better people. ha ha ha ha

          1. “I’ve been called a lot by worse by a lot of people”.
            WOW!
            zzzzzzzzzz
            You seem to like to use the term “a lot” , you used it twice in one sentence, LOL, very telling. 😉

          2. “be sure to put your OPT OUT sign on your lawn and your car”

            Good idea. Mine will say: “I OPT OUT of being beaten to death and tazed a whole lot despite not being a threat to anybody. However I OPT IN to being protected and served, since that’s what I’m f*cking paying for and that’s what’s written on both sides of your f*cking cruiser (that I bought for you).”

            “I’ve been called a lot worse by a lot better people”

            There’s a reason for that you sadistic asshole.

          3. Funny I missed the word “better” when describing people that called her worse…yes she is correct, those who called her worse names were better.
            This one is brilliant.

        2. Good luck. You got no shot. You will be lucky to get one fired. The rest are leaving already because Fullerton as a city is done. City PD’s are begging Fullerton cops to apply right now to pick them up for free and save them from the fullerton hell.

          1. Glad to hear Fullerton’s hell for you. You guys made it hell for KT. Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it? And its only just begun.

    2. No credibility to the 25 activists in this blog isn’t the community. Most of the people here aren’t even from Fullerton. no one cares about the whacked out protestors.

          1. If no one cares, why has every city council meeting since this incident been dominated by public comments, 99% of it outraged at the conduct of the police and city leaders?? Oops… can’t deal with that, huh?? It’s called a FACT.

            You’d prefer to dress up lies as facts: No one cares about Kelly. It was his father’s fault. The cops didn’t kill him (he died of natural causes). It’s only a few activists. All of Fullerton supports its corrupt PD.

  10. Reality Is :
    As I’ve said a million times and now it’s even more clear, you don’t dictate anything. The more you try to flex your kok, the more they will smash your kok into the ground. This anti police blog isn’t consistent with how normal people think. You are wearing out your message and you are starting to turn people against you because of your anti police beliefs no matter what the topic or situation. You are the same as the biggest racists in the world. You are the same as the Hispanic race groups. You are blind to reality. The only thing you see is what you want to see without considering the facts. Normal people are waiting patiently for the process to play out properly. As the racist groups do, your message is being drowned out by your clear anti police message no matter what happened here, before, or in the future. Keep it up. I’m enjoying everyone laughing in your face.

    If normal people think cops beating homeless people to death is ok then glad I am not one of them

    If normal people sit back and let politicians and authority figures blow smoke up their ass and still get votes and huge salaries and raises

    THEN COUNT ME OUT PUNK

    Bring the punks … all of them to justice.. NO COP is above the law.. EVER

    You are the type to help them keep their old boy network that murders citizens and brushes it under the rug like it was no big deal

    BTW.. Who realizes the city has to pay huge bills already for 5 days they kept him alive even though the cops left him braindead that night…

  11. Reality- the more you post the more you expose yourself you make weak atempts at discouraging every day citizens that have a true concern for our community from speaking out because you are the one that is in fact a scared little coward that must hide behind some type of “protection” such as a badge.

  12. “The Orange County Register had sought the names under California’s open-records law.”

    Looks like the OC DA and the OC Register is making a veiled threat to “out” posters on the Friends of Fullerton blog.

    Posting “Someone should make these officers contact information and addresses public.” is not even remotely close to a threat nor is it even a crime.

    The fact that DA investigators wasted valuable time investigating such a mundane post demonstrates that they are not interested in doing a impartial investigation in the “scuffle” and “struggle” (as our friends at the OC Register love to call it) that led to the death of Kelly Thomas, it seems to me they are more interested in wasting resources tracking down activists and posters on a blog.

    I have to say that this is no surprise but I never expected them to use the OC Register as an avenue to threaten or scare people away from freely expressing their opinions by threatening to publish their identities in the paper.

    By the way, California has a “death penalty” for murder and some people believe that at the very least 2 officers murdered Mr. Thomas.

    Writing “Kelly Thomas was murdered by numerous officers and they should get the death penalty.” is not by an means a threat, it is simply an opinion.

    Hypothetically speaking If 6 gang members got into a “scuffle” or “struggle” that resulted in that police officer’s death, it would not be far fetched to assume that those gang members would face murder charges with special circumstances (ie the death penalty).

    The collusion and corruption involving the OC Register and the ruling elite of Orange County is out of control.

    1. I tried posting this message on their comments page but looks like they disabled comments about 15 minutes ago.

      The collusion and corruption continues.

      1. John Armstrong on August 24, 2011
        I tried posting this message on their comments page but looks like they disabled comments about 15 minutes ago.

        The collusion and corruption continues.

        It doesn’t seem to occur to OC Reg. their trolls here would be outed to.

    2. You can try to JUSTIFY this all you want but the TRUTH is none of you would want your personal information posted on any blog. It doesn’t matter that you could do a google search to find it…

      Since some of you posted it, that information has been attached to miscellaneous church, school, government, dictionary sites. Someone with hacking skills had to add this info to all of those sites. This has been reported to DA and FBI. Looks like their cyber unit is investigating, may be part of the Anonymous Hacking Group that terrorized Orlando PD in July.

      1. NOEYENEVERSAYNO on August 24, 2011
        You can try to JUSTIFY.
        >…<

        "This has been reported to DA and FBI. Looks like their cyber unit is investigating, may be part of the… "

        So, T-Rack can waste time pursuing THIS instead of prosecuting the MURDERING FPD 6? It will be interesting to find if the FBI also holds cyber-crimes as more threatening to public safety than BRUTAL BLOODY MURDERS by DIRTY cops."

        "Anonymous Hacking Group that terrorized Orlando PD in July."

        Police being terrorized?

        ROFL One must suppose the irony flew far above your pointy little head. The FPD are Fullerton's terrorists. Perhaps if you removed that white cone from top of your head and the mask from your face your thinking would clear up? Do you use burning crosses to beat homeless to death too? Homeless mentally ill are the new minority of choice for the FPD-KKK. The FPD are more and more reminding me of the old South.

    3. Because they have enough evidence to prove those gangsters killed? Duh. No evidence to prove here and the DA isn’t going to file charges just to appease your whack job self.

    4. John Armstrong on August 24, 2011
      “The Orange County Register had sought the names under California’s open-records law.”

      Looks like the OC DA and the OC Register is making a veiled threat to “out” posters on the Friends of Fullerton blog.

      Forgive me for shortening this John. >…<

      Hypothetically speaking If 6 gang members got into a “scuffle” or “struggle” that resulted in that police officer’s death, it would not be far fetched to assume that those gang members would face murder charges with special circumstances (ie the death penalty).

      What do you think are the chances six cop killing gang members' 'execution' would even wait until they reached a courtroom? Remember FPD doesn't believe in due process under the law. They prefer impersonating Judge Dread, or at very least covering for him.

      There is the Law FPD enforces on The People, then there is 'the Law' they reserve for themselves. FPD are no more American CItizens than undocumented aliens. Citizens must abide by The Law. When will the corrupt OC DA begin to consider FPD officers Americans, and hold them to the Law?

  13. I think you scared ‘Reality Boy’ MP58, either that or he’s trying hard to cook up a good response. Or maybe he’s helping one of his FPD buddies cook up a good police report on an innocent citizen. HA.

  14. NOEYENEVERSAYNO :
    Just goes to show that NONE of you really know what happened. If the officer isn’t fired and he is able to take that permanent disbility, it means that he has a permanent injury and doesn’t feel he can continue to fulfill his duties as a police officer.

    OOOOOOOOOOOO!

  15. What kind of a pathetic douchebag loser spends that much time posting to a blog full of people who think so differently than they do? Your life must really suck!

    Why don’t you start a blog for people who love violent cops who prey on the community they are paid to serve? I might even stop in to post a quick flame, but I certainly wouldn’t want to hang around.

  16. Dr. Zillman :

    NOEYENEVERSAYNO :Just goes to show that NONE of you really know what happened. If the officer isn’t fired and he is able to take that permanent disbility, it means that he has a permanent injury and doesn’t feel he can continue to fulfill his duties as a police officer.

    OOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Thought you were a doctor, you have nothing better to say? What are you a doctor of?

    Yea….that’s what I thought. Truth is bloggers can pretend to be whoever they want to be…

    1. That’s actually true — I mean, you’re pretending be a human with a normal range of intelligence and empathy (you’re failing miserably, but you’re sure trying).

  17. NOEYENEVERSAYNO :

    Dr. Zillman :

    NOEYENEVERSAYNO :Just goes to show that NONE of you really know what happened. If the officer isn’t fired and he is able to take that permanent disbility, it means that he has a permanent injury and doesn’t feel he can continue to fulfill his duties as a police officer.

    OOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Thought you were a doctor, you have nothing better to say? What are you a doctor of?
    Yea….that’s what I thought. Truth is bloggers can pretend to be whoever they want to be…

    LEO?

  18. Disgusted :What kind of a pathetic douchebag loser spends that much time posting to a blog full of people who think so differently than they do? Your life must really suck!
    Why don’t you start a blog for people who love violent cops who prey on the community they are paid to serve? I might even stop in to post a quick flame, but I certainly wouldn’t want to hang around.

    Then don’t hang around and stop posting. I’m merely having fun at yours (and other’s) expense.

    1. That’s why you’re here posting on a blog about police abuse and the illegal killing of an unarmed man???

      “To have fun at others expense.” Okay, officer, thank you for finally revealing your true motives. Turns out you ARE a pathetic douchebag.

    2. Lol!!! Way to snap up the troll bait! I didn’t even mention a name.

      Do you always respond to “pathetic douchebag loser”? How about pig?

  19. Anonymous :That’s actually true — I mean, you’re pretending be a human with a normal range of intelligence and empathy (you’re failing miserably, but you’re sure trying).

    Yea, I wouldn’t want my emotions to decide what happended like the rest of you.

    I’m sure it was the emotion, ANGER that got some of you to post info on the officers, pd, city coucil and DA.

    I’m sure the emotion, FRUSTRATION, played a role when you got that traffic ticket you didn’t deserve (yea, right?) or when you got arrested for whatever or failed a test to become an officer…who knows…

    And it will be the emotion, REGRET, when some of you realize that you can’t make threats or assumptions about people without consequences…

    Finally, it will be the emotion, DISAPPOINTMENT, when the result will not be the one you were hoping for in this case.

    I could go on but I think you need time to process.

    1. You, officer, talking about consequences and regret is quite funny coming from someone defending cops who killed an unarmed man.

      I know you cops love to have all the power and are frustrated when you don’t, but nobody on here I’ve seen has stolen, hacked, or committed any crime. We HAVE exercised our rights under the Constitutions, which you can’t stand!

      I think YOU need time to process and realize you’re on the wrong site. The “I love to defend cops who beat the hell out defenseless, unarmed suspects” is at another address, I think…

    2. By the way, since you don’t seem to understand very well, let me explain… nobody here is using emotion to decide WHAT HAPPENED. We are normal humans expressing outrage at what happened. There’s a difference, but I’m just not sure you understand it.

      1. Problem is you don’t understand what happened. You see what you see when you close your eyes and ears. Reality is far from that.

        1. You’re partially right, idiot. When I close my eyes, I hear Kelly Thomas’ last words, calling out for his father (Dad! Dad! Dad!) and for the police to stop their beating (doesn’t exactly sound like the super-human, resisting, drug crazed, violent person many of the police-brutality-excusers like yourself on this blog). As a human being, I feel sickened and saddened (yes, I know you told me, Officer RI, that I’m not allowed to use emotion, but I don’t take orders from you, douchebag).

          When I close my ears and look at that picture and read/hear all of the witness statements, I feel horror for what that man encountered during the last few minutes of his life (you know, before the 6 officers put him into the coma from which he would die).

          1. by Anonymous on August 25, 2011
            You’re partially right, idiot. When I close my eyes, I hear Kelly Thomas’ last words, calling out for his father (Dad! Dad! Dad!)

            That was a beautiful post.

          2. Poor baby. He chose to run and fight. Could be due to schizo but doesn’t matter. You fight you don’t win because you are nuts. Nuts make things worse and more dangerous. So fight and never give up, you get fought back at a higher level. That’s what he did. He died. Happens.

  20. ANONYMOUSWHO? :

    Anonymous :That’s actually true — I mean, you’re pretending be a human with a normal range of intelligence and empathy (you’re failing miserably, but you’re sure trying).

    Finally, it will be the emotion, DISAPPOINTMENT, when the result will not be the one you were hoping for in this case.

    We are hoping for honest true pure unblind JUSTICE

    But, when they circle their wagons you will be the one right there jerking them off and praising their ability to do this crap for 15 years with their Godfather District Attorney protecting them

    FIFTEEN YEARS not one prosecution.. hmm.. does that honestly sound possible?

  21. Anonymous :That’s why you’re here posting on a blog about police abuse and the illegal killing of an unarmed man???
    “To have fun at others expense.” Okay, officer, thank you for finally revealing your true motives. Turns out you ARE a pathetic douchebag.

    AGAIN NOT AN OFFICER.

    I think it’s funny that you assume I’m an officer. You just can’t get your brain around the fact that someone is willing to oppose you unless there an officer.

    I’m just speaking for the MAJORITY, tha’s all.

    1. You must have failed math. Please go back and read all the posts from thoughtful, caring citizens and compare the number against police brutality to the number who support it/apologize for it/change the subject, etc.

      THEN you can tell me how that’s the majority.

    2. Who did you mean exactly, when you said you took pleasure out of “having fun at others’ expense?”

      Did you mean at the expense of the deceased, the family of the deceased, or the average citizens here saddened and outraged by the killing?? I’m just curious how a person without a soul or human empathy thinks.

      1. Disgusted on August 24, 2011
        If it oinks like a pig…

        I’ve seen actual four legged pigs on the farm with more ethics than this piece of filthy garbage.

        He doesn’t even defend police because he believes what he is saying. He’s a shill paid by one of the attorney’s offices for the FPD. In other words, he is a paid prostitute.

    3. They’re’s not enough doughnuts to go around.

      What’s going on over their?

      You have a right to disagree with there opinions.

  22. If Dad Thomas had taken care of his son and been there for him, none of this would be happening. Law 101 = “But For…”

    1. You’re right. If Ron was on the street that night and heard his son calling out for him as he was being beaten and killed, it wouldn’t have happened.

      Also, if he had moved to Florida years ago and raised his family there, then the FPD would not have been able to kill his son. Yes, I know it’s ridiculous, but it makes as much sense as your offensive, stupid posts.

      “But for KT being on the street and being homeless, he wouldn’t have been…”

        1. 1) No evidence that he resisted arrerst.

          2) Where in California state law or federal law does it say police officers have the right to beat a suspect to death who doesn’t comply with their orders and/or brutality??

          Nowhere? That’s what I though. I hope you learned a lesson today.

          1. When one resists arrest with police officers and fights back while on some kind of schizo rush and is totally out of control and combative and officers have to use a taser to just get the guy in cuffs and schizo guy has some has a bad reaction to the taze…. well, this may be the result. Sad for KT but sometimes when you mess with the bull….

        2. But for parking illegally. But for jaywalking. Guess what, dumbass GED cops are not judges. They need to make an arrest with the least possible force, not the most. They don’t get to impose sentence. I know they think they do. Right down to the common practice of cranking cuffs numbingly and painfully tight on a suspect they like less than average.

          It will take a while, but you undereducated scum will soon get your rightful place in society working at Taco Bell. But for your special laws like POBAR and your corrupt unions, that’s where you’d be. That’s all you’re qualified to do.

          1. I’d personally rather have illegal immigrants from Mexico making my tacos than ex-Cops. I don’t mind ex-Cops cleaning out public urinals though.

          2. Least possible force? Is that how the law reads?

            True about unions and POBAR and that’s why neither are going anywhere anytime soon. Otherwise every cop would get fired for writing a ticket.

    2. But for being beaten to death.. Kelly Thomas would be alive….. You tried this before..

      But for being beaten into a coma and being brain dead.. Kelly would be alive.

      But for Sellers being a leader.. his cops would not beat people to death

      and on and on… keep trying… Kelly did not initiate the contact .. Killer cyclops did… it will come out.

      1. @i love cops (109)
        I’ve been to bullfights in the past. At the end of the bullfight, the bull always goes down with blood raining down from the back of his neck. This is a result of all the daggers that are shoved into his spine during the bullfight. Once the bull dies, the b-fighter shoves a dagger into the soft spot behind the skull and scrambles the bulls brain. After this happened, the bulls ears were cut off and thrown into the cheering crowd. To be honest, it was a little unsettling because i was about 12 years old.

  23. Could we hear the tape of the bomb threat that was called in?

    I’ll settle for the release of that at this point.

    1. Why do you think you have the right to see or hear anything……. If you are an investigator with the DA or the FBI then you might be able to but otherwise you are not privy to that information. SO NO….. you can not.

      1. Try reading the constitution. Even the OCR sought the information under the open records law. A poster saying publicise this information – essentially asking the same thing the OCR asked for – is accused of making a “threat.”

        Plenty of threats are perfectly legal. “If you assault me, I’ll press charges.” But saying to have records made public is not any type of threat whatsoever. As a cop lover, I hope you have even the GED dumbed down level of legal knowledge to appreciate this basic point.

      1. You mean the “public” doesn’t run the show, right? And that’s the way your Gestapo brain thinks things should be, right?

        You are unfortunately correct that the public has been unconstitutionally excluded from running the show. That will change. Your pessimistic attitude about our chances at change has only emboldened us.

  24. Anonymous :You must have failed math. Please go back and read all the posts from thoughtful, caring citizens and compare the number against police brutality to the number who support it/apologize for it/change the subject, etc.
    THEN you can tell me how that’s the majority.

    YEA not taking about the blog bud; talking about the public support. Do you realize the pd is getting support from its Fullerton citizens daily. Baked goods, cards, emails and face to face comments are what the officers are getting.

    So yea, this blog’s spotlight has come and gone except for when the FACTS are revealed and the blog will be remembered as being SO WRONG!

    1. I apologize. If someone is baking cupcakes and taking the to the FPD, then it certainly MUST be okay to kill unarmed citizens. My mistake…

      1. There are good citizens out there. Not everyone thinks like you whackos that want action before investigations are done. The citizens also don’t rush to judge either. Only the clan of out of town activists. Your message is old and the city is sick of you, the same as they are sick of the scummy homeless. The homeless is getting worse too because they are rolling in from everywhere now.

        1. Goddammit the homeless is everywhere. SoupPlantation in Amerige Heights, Heisler park, all the mountain bike trails in Sunny Hills, reading books at the Hunt Library, drinking Boba on Wilshire, getting pedicures. That’s what you treehuggers get. Your citys ruined. Ingrates. You’ll see. Out of Skoal
          now. Another Jack and coke. Tomorrow pool day? Sure, you like golf too. Slidebar. What is this Mariachi crap?

    2. Those hookers getting protection are real greatfull… and ole Hee Haws wife was seen buying 85 pounds of flour and chocolate chips…. yeeeeah buddy.. good try.

  25. I am sorry for Kelly, very sorry. He was a sad and pathetic, and very lonely man without a family. But when are all of you going to get it? ?? This is all about money now. Money for Dad Thomas! As much as he can get. I hope he doesn’t get a penny!

    1. If it’s all about money to YOU, janbond, then you are apparently a very shallow person without regard for human life. To the other people who take time to post here, it is about the loss of life under very questionable circumstances, to say the least.

      I don’t know any poster here who has profited (or will) from this hideous event, so why are we here if it’s about money??? It’s about justice and trying to make sure this doesn’t happen again…

      1. They are not killers. KT resisted arrest, fought with police, police fought back with a very aggresive individual, he died. AND WE DON’T KNOW FROM WHAT. These things happen. Not the first time, won’t be the last. Shouldn’t resist. Hope you all have learned a lesson.

        1. The only lesson one could learn from you is how to be a heartless prick.

          And by the way, YES, they are killers since the brutalized a man and he died as a result (i.e. — killers… they killed him).

          1. “The only lesson one could learn from you is how to be a heartless prick.”

            LOL couldn’t have said it better myself.

        2. we did learn a lesson. We learned that the FDP is a den of corruption and brutality. We learned from the cop commenters on this site that cops love abusing citizens and believe their excessive force is always justified. We learned that it is time the citizens fight back and disenfranchise brutal and corrupt police departments, and we’re starting with FPD. Thank you for the lessons – well taught.

          1. by Reality Is on August 25, 2011
            Liar. Keep making things up.

            That is rich. The currently #1 FPD propaganda-whore calling honest people liars. Just how stupid do you think the average reader is? Evidently you think the general public are total fools. Guess what, they’re not! You lose!

        3. “These things happen?” Really? So you have absolutely no remorse whatsoever for Kelly Thomas or his family, I-fellate-Cops???

          I guess your post has told us everything we need to know about you and your mentality.

          I only hope when this “happens again,” it won’t be to you or someone you love, or I have a feeling that cute, 9-year-old girl’s heart sign in your signature may change to another symbol.

        4. “he died. AND WE DON’T KNOW FROM WHAT.”

          Absolutely correct. Everyone knows that MANY things other than beating can directly cause crushed windpipes, concussions, and the ENTIRE face swollen up (as if beaten repeatedly and mercilessly…strangely enough), and heart stoppage 3 times on the way to the hospital. Maybe it was an allergy to pork products?

          “These things happen.”

          Hopefully that is your entire eulogy. Whichever of your acquaintances despises you the least will get up in front of the small crowd (consisting ironically mostly of homeless people in the pews just seeking shelter from the elements), and say “Hey, these things happen.” He will then shrug his shoulders, go home, and sleep like a baby that night.

          1. “Hopefully that is your entire eulogy. Whichever of your acquaintances despises you the least will get up in front of the small crowd (consisting ironically mostly of homeless people in the pews just seeking shelter from the elements), and say “Hey, these things happen.” He will then shrug his shoulders, go home, and sleep like a baby that night.”

            LOL. Well said, Stud Lee! From your fingers to God’s ear. Sadly, I f&%k Cops doesn’t even deserve that paltry a sendoff.

          2. by Stud Lee on August 24, 2011
            “he died. AND WE DON’T KNOW FROM WHAT.”
            ,,,,,

            “These things happen.”

            Hopefully that is your entire eulogy.

            LOL

    2. I guess since I am a good citizen who calls mom every week and served his country with a daughter in college… my life is worth more than kelly’s to old jaynbond… pathetic jay,, just pathetic.

  26. Yeah, that’s why you’re constantly trolling here. All the “good citizens” support police brutality. None of them are bothered by the killing of Kelly (that’s why it hasn’t shown up in any newspaper or news outlet or CNN, right???).

  27. In case you haven’t heard, Steve Gregory, reporter from KFI, will be on Bill Handels show tomorrow..
    He’s the first reporter allowed on a ride along with FPD since Kellys death, and will be reporting on it…
    I find him quite fair in reporting..

    1. It will probably be “we are good guys” .. “we were not there”.. if no one outs Hampton and Sissynelli.. it is worthless. There were lots of cops at the Mam deal and not one outed Hampton…. unless Steve outs them they are all still liars and cowards.

    2. The FPD will most likely be on their squeeky clean best behavior during the ride-along. Who knows, the FPD may even suddenly develop a nascent conscience.

      Sadly, and predictably, any tiny green shoot of conscience will immediately die, as soon as the ride-along with the reporter is completed.

      I can imagine that the officer assigned to the ride-along will re-gift some of the extra cupcakes that the Mayor’s wife most likely made for the FPD, (decorated with blue frosting, ofcourse).

      Then, as the officer and the reporter quickly drive past the transit authority bus station, under the blatantly false pretense of “good will,” the officer might fearfully, and hastily throw the cupcakes out of the squad car window, aimed in the general direction of any people they see, who fit the FPD profile of:

      “stinky,” “crazy,” “dirty,” “mentally challenged”, “got what he deserved,” “homeless,” “Fullerton is a much better place without him,” “sad and pathetic,” and “very lonely man without a family person,” “screw him,” “schizo guy.” “bum,” “resisting arrest” people who happen to be sitting on a bench.

      (Oh, and did I also mention that they were not observed doing anything illegal, they did not initiate any violence, and they are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law? However, for the moment, they look like “scum” and they are still breathing; so that makes them viable targets for the officers’ release of aggression.)

      Unfortunately, the officer can’t get out of his squad car and meet (threaten and harrass), or commit assault and battery (greet) on any of the “suspects” right at that moment; after all, the officer is very busy on a PR assignment.

      (Oh, pardon me, did I say “harrass or beat to death”) Oops, I forgot the offical fabricated, blue line version of the prior “meet and greet” that they initiated with Kelly Thomas; in their own words, it was really just an “unfortunate mishap.”

        1. Reality Is on August 25, 2011
          Hopefully someone runs and fights so he can see [an execution in the street, Syrian style]. 🙂

          Judges? We don’ need no stinking judges. Courts? We don’ need no stinking courts. Juries? We don’ need no stinking Juries. Due process of Law? We don’ need no stinking Due process of Law. Legally mandated prison executions? We don’ need no stinking prison executions. Justice? We don’ need no stinking justice. Don’chu know nothing, man? This is Fullerton, California. we got the FPD, an’ they do it Aaaall!

  28. John Armstrong or whatever name you choose to post under-Anyone that expects the truth out of the Orange County Register is either an idiot or… an idiot this rag only serves the powerful not the citizens

  29. If the DA is threatening blogs now, then the wheels are coming off the bus. Time to hear from the DA’s superior on this matter.

    1. Unfortunately, the DA doesn’t have a superior. The DA has more power than any individual in the criminal justice system, and is immune from suit. Even judges fear reporting them to the bar when they commit misconduct. Unfortunately, this scumbag isn’t up for a vote until 2014, and recall is very difficult.

      Kelly may wind up being a martyr, but the underlying concerns about cop abuse can still be addressed. It won’t be easy. It will take concerted effort, including fundraising to form a PAC to change state laws as well as oust local officials.

      1. Problem is the only supporters you have are the poor tree huggers with no money. No one with money will support you because your message is azz backwards.

  30. Where are the FPD 6 blood samples??? Show us that they weren’t on the juice pumping up to have 22 inch arms.

    Come on DA, get those blood samples now. Oh too late, those cops have been on a detox/cleansing regime for 6 weeks.

    1. You can’t have blood samples and you won’t get them. 100% guaranteed. That’s why you morons don’t run the show or this investigation. I’ll give you some of my spit though.

      1. @Reality Is
        It’s just a thought, and in no way am i condoning it. Can u imagine a couple of cops going into a fast food joint and getting special sauce (spit) in their food. What kinds of diseases can be transmitted thru human saliva. Talk to high school kids that work in fast food joints and you’ll be amazed at the things that are done to the food B4 it goes out to the customer.

        1. Yes. It happens. We have arrested 4 for it. That’s why we are careful where we sit, where we eat, and the view to where it’s cooked. Outside of that we aren’t real worried. Food isn’t that clean anyways.

  31. Me thinks thou doest protest too loudly! This link I’ve enclosed was pulled from the OCDA’s office website this evening and lists name of individuals and business names that have been accused of a crime. None of these people mentioned in these very graphic and detailed accounts of heinous crimes have actually had their day in court much less been convicted yet by Tony Rawcockinmyass but their names and reputations have been stained and are online for all the world to see 24/7. Pot meet kettle?

    http://orangecountyda.com/docs/168261982011casemanagementlist.pdf

  32. I am beginning to think that “officer safety” will be THE reason they will never release the video.
    Does that occur to anyone else?

        1. Reality Is on August 25, 2011
          Hiding?

          Yes, like the sissy cowards they really are. After all it only took six of them, all of who must have outweighed Kelly Thomas by at least 115 pounds EACH, to beat to death a single weak malnourished homeless person. Out of shape weakened by malnourishment 135 pounds versus 1500 pounds of trained killer cops. And, you call that a fight? Guess those ants you burned up with a magnifying glass when you were 12 years old put up quite a “fight” too.

          Just came from reading at the DAs site:
          http://orangecountyda.com/docs/168261982011casemanagementlist.pdf

          Can you possibly explain why you believe people who are accused of crimes should receive anonymity and paid vacation just because they wear a badge? Why should ANY accused receive different treatment from the rest? If you can actually use that brain cell of yours to think, and not just parrot the same tired propaganda, please explain your ‘reasoning.’ I would genuinely like to understand your honest thoughts… provided you can have one.

          That is a challenge in case you missed it. Can you have an honest thought? Try real hard.

  33. The fact is that this blog’s content or comments can’t be controlled to aid in the cover-up is a real problem. It appears that they are attempting to exert control over it by intimidation and more lies. Folks, the genie is already out of the bottle. The register is a joke these days. Nobody waits for that yellow rag anymore. Now the FBI is involved in the investigation and that is a good thing. The American justice system is not completely broken and the Constitution is still the law of the land. Justice will prevail. Rest assured in that. Do not be afraid to stand for the truth. Remember the truth will stand on its own.

  34. “As long as the child will be trained not by love, but by fear, so long will humanity live not by justice, but by force. As long as the child will be ruled by the educator’s threat and by the father’s rod, so long will mankind be dominated by the policeman’s club, by fear of jail, and by panic of invasion by armies and navies.”

    — Boris Sidis, from “A lecture on the abuse of the fear instinct in early education” in Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 1919

  35. “Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”
    Frederick Douglass

  36. Anonymous :Yeah, that’s why you’re constantly trolling here. All the “good citizens” support police brutality. None of them are bothered by the killing of Kelly (that’s why it hasn’t shown up in any newspaper or news outlet or CNN, right???).

    Oh sorry, you must have missed the blog awhile back when Tony was on CNN with McKinley. It was riveting.

  37. Through different eyes :
    I am beginning to think that “officer safety” will be THE reason they will never release the video.
    Does that occur to anyone else?

    That’s why they need to be put safely behind bars where they belong.

    Release the tapes and let justice be served.

      1. Yes, and the great thing is, there is a lower standard of proof in a civil trial. Look to the OJ civil trial!

    1. Video will be released, eventually, they will stall as long as they can (typical). Pretty sad, but that is what our Justice system has become.

  38. Fullerton Citizen :Where are the FPD 6 blood samples??? Show us that they weren’t on the juice pumping up to have 22 inch arms.
    Come on DA, get those blood samples now. Oh too late, those cops have been on a detox/cleansing regime for 6 weeks.

    Would you stop bringing up the stereoid use? That’s getting old…this isn’t baseball.

      1. excerpt
        “The indictment alleges that one of the suppliers shipped the steroids to California”
        ^and you wonder why they fly off the handle in altercations. hmmmm what the term, roid rage?

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  40. What I find amazing is the excuses the FPD has been using. Any injury the deputies may have or fictitiously gotten only makes them look like fools. Who do they expect to believe that 6 men in bullet proof jackets, armed with weapons and tasers and the collective weight of all of the above 6 men would have sustained any injury from the victim they pounced on? They have attempted to make it sound like a fair fight where they were fighting with Kelly Thomas,but from eye witness accounts,Kelly was not fighting back since he was slammed immediately to the ground and the beating from the first cop began immediately to his head. So they want to act like a bunch of little cry babies now after their great exhibit of machoistic,sadistic brutality? So they want to cry “he hit me..” and hurt my finger as they beat him to a blood mess? They are so stupid it defies words. Who the hell would see six against one and have the least bit of sympathy for these thugs? Cops are the biggest cry babies when they become “victims”. If they get a little scratch they have to run to the doctor and use their medical days off. They are brave when they have the guns and mace and tasers and a group of 6 or 11 to threaten ONE individual. What a bunch of losers! They actually are stupid enough to think anyone gives a damn about their little alleged injury after they just beat a man to death. Death. He isn’t coming back to complain about his injuries. These pukes deserve contempt not sympathy. Kelly Thomas was a human being whether he lived on the street,in an apartment,or wherever he resided. He was a human being, not a dog,not a bird,not an endangered species who has protection from some Federal animal law. He was a son, a brother and he had mental problems which drove him to living on the street. If a bird can live on the street,why can’t a man? Where has humanity gone in this world? Where a person resides does not lessen the fact that they are human beings.
    To those morons who post bullshit saying that Ron Thomas wants money and didn’t give his son a place to live. You need to shut your stupid face up. This man should sue the pants off the people who allowed the climate for this tragedy to happen. He couldn’t control an adult son who chose to wander harmlessly on the streets instead of the comfort of a home. Kelly was ill,and unless you understand that mental illness you don’t know what you are talking about. Unless you know what it’s like to have YOUR child,your brother murdered the way Kelly was,you morons just need to stfu. Ron Thomas is ten times the man the 6 bad cops are. He has used incredible self restraint in trying to simply find the truth of what all happened. It doesn’t take a genius to know that 2 and 2 and 2 against 1 is overkill no matter what the rest of the details may be. Eye witnesses are accepted evidence in a court of law and when they are all saying the same thing,in the court of public opinion,they are credible. Even without a trial in a court,there is enough evidence that any one with two eyes and ears can know what happened. These cops and their DA’s office are so used to getting away with this behavior they just are using the same game plan they always used. Only thing is,it’s not going to work this time. The weight of evidence is against them and they have royally set themselves up for a big,big fall. They should all be ashamed including the DA trying to do damage control for the FPD. They need to step out of their ego trip and search really hard to find and regain their humanity. This is not about preserving their system and one lie upon another to cover their dirty deeds,this is about a community who put them where they are who now have no trust left. If they have any decency left, they need to pull it out of storage and show it now. Quit putting the Thomas family through more agony and making them beg for what is rightfully theirs..the truth and justice,swift justice,not delayed and deprived prolonging of the above. Police are not the rulers of society and citizens and they are out of control. How long before they become prey to the backlash they are creating? They will become the hunted and the targeted if they don’t reign in their terrorism against citizens and people like Kelly Thomas who are guilty of nothing more than the misfortune of being unable to have a home. No, there is no sympathy for this senseless beating and murder and the only explanation for it is callous,cold,heartlessness from a bunch of cops who think they’ve made themselves God.What a bunch of trash they are.

    1. Wheeew… it’s a good thing I’m a speed reader… anyways, sounds like somebody hit a nerve re: Ron Thomas. Yes, KT was a human being who made bad choices. Ron Thomas made bad choices too. Agreed, if one wants to live on the streets so be it. They then deal with the hazards of living on the street. BUT when one breaks the law and resists arrest and fights back you get what you get. Very sad for KT that maybe he didn’t have the mental ability to make good choices but he did choose to NOT take meds. And as for RON ” i couldn’t cut it as a cop or a father” Thomas, well, he’s just looking for a a huge pay day to cover some of those debts he has. Good Luck with that Ron Thomas… maybe you’ll get enough to pay off your debts, travel around the world and throw a bone to a few homeless guys. 🙂

      1. Your ignorance is showing, on so many levels.

        People who suffer from schizophrenia do not have INSIGHT into their illness. That means that they cannot understand that they are ill. They don’t want to take medications that give them serious side effects if they don’t even understand that they are ill in the first place. Also, even if, after years, they finally did gain some level of insight, they still have very poor short term memories, disorganized thinking, paranoia (often they think that it is the medicine that is “poisoning their brains, etc.”

        I hate to burst your bubble of extreme ignorance, but you don’t have any clue AT ALL what you are talking about.

        MORE never ending excuses for beating an unarmed man to death??

        FPD officers murdered Kelly WHILE he was fully compliant, not resisting, and motionless, (as motionless as could be expected from someone who is writhing uncontrollably in pain and agony after having his skull slammed into the concrete curb and being kicked, Tased and beaten.)

        And, Kelly was unabatedly and violently assaulted while he was screaming for mercy, while he screamed for God and for his dad to HELP, HELP, HELP!, while he was lying flat on the ground, while he was being sat on by three officers who Tased him repeatedly, while he was kicked, beaten with nightsticks, and at least twice knee dropped on his face and throat, while he was surrounded and beaten by 6 armed, bullet proof vest wearing officers, who were most likely amped up by Roid rage.

        The beating continued even AFTER Kelly was motionless and unconscious.

        STOP blaming the victim. The officers did NOT follow proper arrest and control techniques. It is NOT a proper arrest and control technique to beat and restrain someone’s head.

        Your pathetic attempts to justify the horrific murder of Kelly Thomas just go on and on and on, ad infinitum.

        Only the guilty parties to this grievous crime give any credence AT ALL to your pathetic defense of the indefensible. .

      2. What do you mean Ron Thomas couldn’t cut it as a cop? Perhaps his personal code wouldn’t allow him to work in such a corrupt organization!

      3. Unlike one of the folks who posted earlier, at some point in your life I hope you, or a member of your immediate family, does suffer from police brutality. It would be interesting to see what you think then. It would also be justice served.

        When it happens, don’t ask any of us to come to your defense. We’ll simply reply, “you got what was deserved,” like you say about Kelly Thomas. Remember your own words when the time comes.

  41. Ripplewine :What I find amazing is the excuses the FPD has been using. Any injury the deputies may have or fictitiously gotten only makes them look like fools. Who do they expect to believe that 6 men in bullet proof jackets, armed with weapons and tasers and the collective weight of all of the above 6 men would have sustained any injury from the victim they pounced on? They have attempted to make it sound like a fair fight where they were fighting with Kelly Thomas,but from eye witness accounts,Kelly was not fighting back since he was slammed immediately to the ground and the beating from the first cop began immediately to his head. So they want to act like a bunch of little cry babies now after their great exhibit of machoistic,sadistic brutality? So they want to cry “he hit me..” and hurt my finger as they beat him to a blood mess? They are so stupid it defies words. Who the hell would see six against one and have the least bit of sympathy for these thugs? Cops are the biggest cry babies when they become “victims”. If they get a little scratch they have to run to the doctor and use their medical days off. They are brave when they have the guns and mace and tasers and a group of 6 or 11 to threaten ONE individual. What a bunch of losers! They actually are stupid enough to think anyone gives a damn about their little alleged injury after they just beat a man to death. Death. He isn’t coming back to complain about his injuries. These pukes deserve contempt not sympathy. Kelly Thomas was a human being whether he lived on the street,in an apartment,or wherever he resided. He was a human being, not a dog,not a bird,not an endangered species who has protection from some Federal animal law. He was a son, a brother and he had mental problems which drove him to living on the street. If a bird can live on the street,why can’t a man? Where has humanity gone in this world? Where a person resides does not lessen the fact that they are human beings.To those morons who post bullshit saying that Ron Thomas wants money and didn’t give his son a place to live. You need to shut your stupid face up. This man should sue the pants off the people who allowed the climate for this tragedy to happen. He couldn’t control an adult son who chose to wander harmlessly on the streets instead of the comfort of a home. Kelly was ill,and unless you understand that mental illness you don’t know what you are talking about. Unless you know what it’s like to have YOUR child,your brother murdered the way Kelly was,you morons just need to stfu. Ron Thomas is ten times the man the 6 bad cops are. He has used incredible self restraint in trying to simply find the truth of what all happened. It doesn’t take a genius to know that 2 and 2 and 2 against 1 is overkill no matter what the rest of the details may be. Eye witnesses are accepted evidence in a court of law and when they are all saying the same thing,in the court of public opinion,they are credible. Even without a trial in a court,there is enough evidence that any one with two eyes and ears can know what happened. These cops and their DA’s office are so used to getting away with this behavior they just are using the same game plan they always used. Only thing is,it’s not going to work this time. The weight of evidence is against them and they have royally set themselves up for a big,big fall. They should all be ashamed including the DA trying to do damage control for the FPD. They need to step out of their ego trip and search really hard to find and regain their humanity. This is not about preserving their system and one lie upon another to cover their dirty deeds,this is about a community who put them where they are who now have no trust left. If they have any decency left, they need to pull it out of storage and show it now. Quit putting the Thomas family through more agony and making them beg for what is rightfully theirs..the truth and justice,swift justice,not delayed and deprived prolonging of the above. Police are not the rulers of society and citizens and they are out of control. How long before they become prey to the backlash they are creating? They will become the hunted and the targeted if they don’t reign in their terrorism against citizens and people like Kelly Thomas who are guilty of nothing more than the misfortune of being unable to have a home. No, there is no sympathy for this senseless beating and murder and the only explanation for it is callous,cold,heartlessness from a bunch of cops who think they’ve made themselves God.What a bunch of trash they are.

    T.M.I. we’re sleeping, at least make your post more compelling.

      1. RW, I read it and its a passionate summary of the situation. You make some good points. Only thing needed are some paragraph breaks. I’ve taken the liberty of doing that in a repost here.

        Repost of Ripplewine’s:

        What I find amazing is the excuses the FPD has been using. Any injury the deputies may have or fictitiously gotten only makes them look like fools. Who do they expect to believe that 6 men in bullet proof jackets, armed with weapons and tasers and the collective weight of all of the above 6 men would have sustained any injury from the victim they pounced on?

        They have attempted to make it sound like a fair fight where they were fighting with Kelly Thomas,but from eye witness accounts,Kelly was not fighting back since he was slammed immediately to the ground and the beating from the first cop began immediately to his head.

        So they want to act like a bunch of little cry babies now after their great exhibit of machoistic,sadistic brutality? So they want to cry “he hit me..” and hurt my finger as they beat him to a blood mess? They are so stupid it defies words.

        Who the hell would see six against one and have the least bit of sympathy for these thugs? Cops are the biggest cry babies when they become “victims”. If they get a little scratch they have to run to the doctor and use their medical days off. They are brave when they have the guns and mace and tasers and a group of 6 or 11 to threaten ONE individual. What a bunch of losers! They actually are stupid enough to think anyone gives a damn about their little alleged injury after they just beat a man to death.

        Death. He isn’t coming back to complain about his injuries. These pukes deserve contempt not sympathy. Kelly Thomas was a human being whether he lived on the street,in an apartment,or wherever he resided. He was a human being, not a dog,not a bird,not an endangered species who has protection from some Federal animal law. He was a son, a brother and he had mental problems which drove him to living on the street. If a bird can live on the street,why can’t a man? Where has humanity gone in this world? Where a person resides does not lessen the fact that they are human beings.

        To those morons who post bullshit saying that Ron Thomas wants money and didn’t give his son a place to live. You need to shut your stupid face up. This man should sue the pants off the people who allowed the climate for this tragedy to happen. He couldn’t control an adult son who chose to wander harmlessly on the streets instead of the comfort of a home.

        Kelly was ill,and unless you understand that mental illness you don’t know what you are talking about. Unless you know what it’s like to have YOUR child,your brother murdered the way Kelly was,you morons just need to stfu. Ron Thomas is ten times the man the 6 bad cops are. He has used incredible self restraint in trying to simply find the truth of what all happened.

        It doesn’t take a genius to know that 2 and 2 and 2 against 1 is overkill no matter what the rest of the details may be.

        Eye witnesses are accepted evidence in a court of law and when they are all saying the same thing,in the court of public opinion,they are credible. Even without a trial in a court,there is enough evidence that any one with two eyes and ears can know what happened.

        These cops and their DA’s office are so used to getting away with this behavior they just are using the same game plan they always used. Only thing is,it’s not going to work this time. The weight of evidence is against them and they have royally set themselves up for a big,big fall.

        They should all be ashamed including the DA trying to do damage control for the FPD. They need to step out of their ego trip and search really hard to find and regain their humanity.

        This is not about preserving their system and one lie upon another to cover their dirty deeds,this is about a community who put them where they are who now have no trust left. If they have any decency left, they need to pull it out of storage and show it now. Quit putting the Thomas family through more agony and making them beg for what is rightfully theirs..the truth and justice,swift justice,not delayed and deprived prolonging of the above.

        Police are not the rulers of society and citizens and they are out of control. How long before they become prey to the backlash they are creating? They will become the hunted and the targeted if they don’t reign in their terrorism against citizens and people like Kelly Thomas who are guilty of nothing more than the misfortune of being unable to have a home.

        No, there is no sympathy for this senseless beating and murder and the only explanation for it is callous,cold,heartlessness from a bunch of cops who think they’ve made themselves God.

        What a bunch of trash they are.

        1. Finally, something else you and I can agree about: the need for paragraph breaks! Thanks for the re-write. When I see that fat mass of text, I can’t even look at it. It literally makes me dizzy. Paragraph breaks, just like capitalization, punctuation, and spelling, were invented with good reason.

        2. REALITY CHECK- Thanks for the edit and re-formatting.( also some mispellings for the grammar police 😉 I think I was half asleep as I wrote but wanted to comment on what I had been thinking. I hope something positive breaks soon with all this.I don’t see the need to keep rehashing a lot of this over and over.I guess a lot of people just have to vent.

  42. Fullerton Cop #4 :
    Yes. PR move to satisfy the little minority group of activists. Then one cop medically retires, and the other one gets off free due to a brain injury. Case closed. Then run off to the next city.

    Sure, douche — this is just a “little minority group of activists.” That’s why nobody has paid much attention to it (except for the LA Times, OC Register, local news, PBS, CNN, etc.). Also why the local city council hasn’t given it the time of day or spent hardly any time during recent meetings, right?? (Just hundreds of people lining up for public comments).

    I can just picture you in Mississippi during the 1960s: Aww, shucks, this civil rights crap ain’t nothing but a small minority group of activists being stirred up by a few radical tree-huggers.

    1. Attention is a small word about it back when. Nothing now. Old news. Council? You serious? Did you see them? They sat there sleeping just waiting for all the silly comments to be over. Keep dreaming.

          1. Reality, your psychotic posts are being forwarded to Michael Gennaco….really they are! I want him to have some real time insight into how you assclowns act and think!

      1. At least three members of that panel are too dmned old and it was probably past their bedtime. They were shell shocked from all the blasting they got from the public. They got a rude awakening although playing possom you can believe they are shaken.

  43. Ripplewine: “These cops and their DA’s office are so used to getting away with this behavior they just are using the same game plan they always used. Only thing is,it’s not going to work this time. The weight of evidence is against them and they have royally set themselves up for a big,big fall.”

    Yes. A very big fall indeed.

    It’s like children who know they’ve been caught in the act but actually think if they point the finger at someone else they won’t get in trouble.

    1. They can point, Humpty Dumpty’s men are falling. The diversion can only point so many directions until there’s no where left to point. The truth has a way of pointing directly to itself.

  44. Jacob “Jake”Michael 26 year old amateur Rugby league player pepper sprayed in the face as police respond to a call he made at his home.

    This heavy handed police brutality is spreading..

    An amateur rugby league player collapsed and died after being overpowered with pepper-spray as he was being arrested by up to eleven police officers.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029173/Jacob-Michael-dies-pepper-sprayed-arrested-ELEVEN-officers.html#ixzz1W1TnLeB9

  45. Reality Is :Liar. Keep making things up.

    You yourself said Kelly Thomas got what was coming to him. That says it all. You are a sadistic, murdering bully, and we the people of Fullerton, and hell, the entire USA, don’t want you representing us on any police force. My advice, become a mercenary. That’s the only line of work you’re suited for, if any. Psychopath.

    1. That’s cause I know. You don’t. You will learn. Ask any cop. Run and fight? You are getting beat, not us. We don’t get paid to get beat up. Reality Is what it is. 🙂

    1. Why do you care? I’m just doing what you and your “close” crew has been doing all along. I challenge you like you challenged the DA toda…oh please, so narcisstic.

  46. Hey guys, “Reality IS” is NOT a cop. Think about it seriously for a moment. Do you really think that a cop would have time to post on here as frequently as he does? He’s often on here all night.

    He’s a troll, that’s all. And he knows he’s completely outnumbered and that’s why if you observe his posts, they are becoming more and more outrageous and nonsensical. He’s getting backed into a corner. At first, he would keep repeating the same flat comments about “facts.” But now, he’s making statements that are completely irrational and idiotic, such as saying things like “Hispanic race groups” or “Kelly Thomas got what he deserved.”

    At most, maybe he has friends or family members who might be in the police…but he himself is NOT a cop. I can guarantee that.

    By the way, do not let any bogus threats from the FPD or Orange County DA deter you. We have freedom of speech. And I’m not afraid of them at all.

    I’ll prove that right now. I’m saying this out in the open. Do they care to log my IP address and track me down? Go right ahead. I don’t give a rat’s ass. I know the law.

    – I hope Jay Cicinelli is tried and convicted for murder with malice, and is put to death. Yup, I said that. I don’t value Jay Cicinelli’s life any more than I value a serial killer’s life. When we watch America’s Most Wanted or other crime shows on tv and see a case about a cold blooded, sadistic murderer, we often secretly hope that they get the death penalty because of the horrendous things they the criminal did. And I feel the exact same way about Jay Cicinelli. He’s a cold-blooded murderer and he’s a danger to the public. And society would be better without him. And that is perfectly legal for me to say that. I didn’t threaten him…I said that I hope he is tried and convicted and is legally put to death. I don’t normally agree with the death penalty, but Jay Cicinelli is an exception. He’s a psychopathic monster and is a danger to the public. I have the right to say that.

    I also have no moral conflicts about Jay Cicinelli’s contact information being posted everywhere on the internet. I post his name everywhere I can, but I never re-post his address or other contact information. I have NEVER personally threatened him, and neither has anyone else here. But I have said that I also wouldn’t be sad if something did happen to him. Note that this is the exact same type of comment that “Reality Is” said about Kelly Thomas…by saying that he “got what he deserved.” I don’t want anything to happen to Jay Cicinelli’s family, and I am not personally condoning vigilante justice. But I also wouldn’t care one way or another about Jay Cicinelli himself. Like I said…I have the right to voice my opinion, in the same way that I have the right to voice my opinion about what should happen to other violent criminals we have seen on tv programs.

    I do draw other lines though. I would never post Jeremy Popoff’s home address, even though I’m sure it would be easy enough to find. From what I’ve read, he has kids, and his family should not be dragged into this or put in danger. BUT I will say this right out in the open…I hope Jeremy Popoff’s career and reputation is destroyed. If everything turns out to be true about him making the false call to the police (and we have enough inside information that he did do that) then I hope he is also charged with a crime and prosecuted. I hope the Slide Bar goes out of business. Jeremy Popoff did not COMMIT the murder was not *directly* involved. But he indirectly contributed to it.

    Saying that you hope someone’s career and reputation gets ruined because of something horrendous that they did is NOT “threatening.”

    So yup, if “they” are watching this, then they can go ahead and investigate me and whoever other blog commenters they want. I never personally threatened anyone. I said that I want Jay Cicinelli prosecuted for murder with malice, and I want him to face the death penalty. Or at the very least, life in prison without the possibility of parole. I also said that if Jeremy Popoff is in fact the one who made the fake call to the police, then I want him to be prosecuted for a crime, and for everyone to know what he did.

    There are no “threats” there. Everything I have said here, and what other people have said, is protected by Free Speech.

    And just in case Mr Popoff ever decided to silence people by filing a libel lawsuit…well, I have news for him. In order for a statement to be libel, it has to be FALSE. Also, I do not have any assets in my name, so good luck with that.

    1. Don’t you think Reality Is and whatever other names he uses on this forum could be one of the 6 easy money vacationing cops that are responsible for Kelly’s death? After all, he’s getting paid for doing nothing and he seems really passionate about standing up for his Nazi-like counterparts at FPD. Although he comes across as IQ challenged and continues to insult the victims in this case, he seems to fit right in with some of those L.A. County Sheriff deputies that have formed their own gangs within Men’s Central Jail. What a ‘Taint’ he is.

        1. Maybe you alcoholic, steroid using asshats will get a dose of sun justice whilst you are on your taxpayer funded vacation!

    2. Anonymous :

      BOUNDER :
      I think one of you blogger heads had it right. Follow the money. Everything comes down to money and how much the Thomas family can get out of this.

      Actually, it seem like it might have been a conspiracy between Jay and daddy Thomas to have Jay and that other fuck murder his son while wearing police uniforms
      they will later split all the dough??
      FUCKTARDS.. ask your Moms to retroactively abort you

      Don’t you think Reality Is and whatever other names he uses on this forum could be one of the 6 easy money vacationing cops that are responsible for Kelly’s death? After all, he’s getting paid for doing nothing and he seems really passionate about standing up for his Nazi-like counterparts at FPD. Although he comes across as IQ challenged and continues to insult the victims in this case, he seems to fit right in with some of those L.A. County Sheriff deputies that have formed their own gangs within Men’s Central Jail. What a ‘Taint’ he is.

      1. If Reality Is, is a cop, he is most likely posting from his I-phone, on\off duty. If this is the case, what a buffoon.

      2. Yeah, they’re right! Ron planned and conspired with Fullerton coppers to have his son offed! How ludicrous can you get?

  47. When house cleaning comes to the FPD, I believe they understand that a good long stretch of time is going to be handed to them in federal prison and they are having nightmares of being passed around like a blow up doll in the cell block.

    1. Can’t you just hear the hissing sounds as the air is being let out of those blowup dolls? Oh, the Bubbafication of the Fullerton 6 is gonna be so GREAT!

  48. I think one of you blogger heads had it right. Follow the money. Everything comes down to money and how much the Thomas family can get out of this.

    1. Well, let’s hope that in addition to the city being sued, each one of these cops clear up the chain of command is sued indiviually and punitively, with money coming out of your personal wallets and not city insurance!

  49. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Follow The Money!

  50. Maybe it’s time for some citizen’s arrests. I’m sure there is enough evidence and witnesses and if the gov’ employees won’t do their job then it’s up to the people to maintain an ordered and just community.

  51. BOUNDER :
    I think one of you blogger heads had it right. Follow the money. Everything comes down to money and how much the Thomas family can get out of this.

    Actually, it seem like it might have been a conspiracy between Jay and daddy Thomas to have Jay and that other fuck murder his son while wearing police uniforms

    they will later split all the dough??

    FUCKTARDS.. ask your Moms to retroactively abort you

    1. Yea, thatll happen. Thomas needs the money to pay pff all his liens, hope he will get enough and his attorney won’t take it all.

  52. Yes.. if that DA is thinking the cops are the victims

    RELEASE THE TAPE COWARD

    RELEASE THE TAPES

    Clear your good names and we can all get on with our lives

    1. Anonymous, they won’t release the tapes because the tapes show a handcuffed Kelly Thomas having the life beat out of him. This is fact and this is why they are taking their sweet time on this. The proverbial shit will hit the fan and all hell will break loose! Those murderers should be behind bars where they won’t be able to murder another person again. They are wienerless scum.

  53. Batman :

    Fullerton Citizen :Where are the FPD 6 blood samples??? Show us that they weren’t on the juice pumping up to have 22 inch arms.
    Come on DA, get those blood samples now. Oh too late, those cops have been on a detox/cleansing regime for 6 weeks.

    Would you stop bringing up the stereoid use? That’s getting old…this isn’t baseball.

    The way they tee’d off on his head you would think they took those steroids for baseball tryouts

        1. Whoops-all along I was thinking Hemmoroid instead of Steroid-my bad,, Hey SD where you the guy in the gray shirt and sunglasses?

  54. Hey Reality Boy, where did you go? I haven’t seen any posts from you lately. Perhaps you finally got your head out of Papa Pat McKinley’s ass. Good for you Gestapi.

  55. “Jeezus, you wouldn’t think such heavily-armed and highly trained experts would be so easily intimidated, now would you?”

    Not that this is relevant, but the FPD were on display at last month’s (7/15) big Food Truck Roundup at Fullerton High School stadium. They had a nice display of weapons that would probably never be needed in Fullerton. This was before the six officers were taken off the street, and many people were clueless about the KT incident. The event is happening again this Friday; I wonder if they’ll be present this time. Highly unlikely.

  56. the real threat to the FPD is the turth about the kelly thmas beating, so the FPD threatens anyone who challenges them to tell the public the truth about the beating that led to a homeless, schizophrenic man’s death. Keep up the fight for justice

  57. Police and Sheriffs are not drafted, rather, they CHOOSE their career and line of work. And I’m really tired of hearing about ‘hero’ cops. They chose their profession, and this is what they do every damn day to get paid and put food on the table. So let’s put things back into proper perspective.)

    When cops misbehave on the job, violate the public trust and seriously injure or kill citizens, it is society’s DUTY to get to the truth and hold those accountable legally responsible – just like any other citizen would be held accountable.

    What we have with this Fullerton police outfit, the city council and their relationship to the OCDA is a conflict of interest, as well as an evasive, self-rightous group of people who are drunk with power. HGH steroid use by Fullerton officers probably figures into the equation as well, and Mr. Thomas’ attorney will be looking into that aspect very closely.

    If the Fullerton City videotape of Thomas’ murder is complete and unedited, and an impartial jury views that tape to see the performance of the FPD on July 5th; you’re going to see several cops heading for prison with violent felony records. When all of the eye-witnesses, including the KFI-AM 640 FPD informant, video, hospital Xrays, photos, HGH steroid tests on the officers are all presented in front of a jury, we will probably see justice. Justice in this case, in my view, would be 25 years apiece (no parole) for the six FPD scumbags who assaulted and murdered Mr. Thomas under color of authority. Maybe then we might see some respect for citizens’ personal safety by police and sheriffs. Prison for these six will send a shockwave through the law enforcement industry – and it’s about time. The party is over, Fullerton PD.

    The videotape really is mightier than the nightstick – but too bad you Fullerton PD idiots never learned that lesson from the LAPD & Rodney King incident back in ’91.

    1. @440, Thank you. I am truly horrified and sickened and I will be forever haunted by the merciless and savage murder of Mr. Kelly Thomas. The screams of Kelly Thomas, as he is being beaten to death, at the hands of the FPD, will never leave my mind. I appreciate your comments.

  58. They are waiting this whole thing out. The people will get tired of spending their Saturdays protesting, they will move on. Nothing to see here, move along now. They will say or do anything at this point to distract from what is really the problem. Them!
    We have reached that time where nothing they say or do can be trusted, period! It’s time to get people in these positions (jobs, however you would like to label it) that will get to the bottom of things whenever one of their own is violated. Engage people! If you dont they will!

  59. All those responsible for Kelly’s murder need to be held accountable. Whether they spend the rest of their lives sitting in a jail cell or are sentenced to the death penalty.

    This is not going to be allowed to slide.

    1. WE NEED TO REVERT BACK TO THE DAYS OF THE OLD WEST AND HANG THESE BASTARDS SO HIGH THAT OTHER DIRTY COPS WILL THINK TWICE ABOUT KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE!

      1. Another threat, good, sending link to DA and FBI.

        FYI, sending all threats to FBI cyber division and they CAN find your identity, better think twice, if you even can THINK, at all.

  60. Reality Is :
    No one will be behind bars. Keep smoking your peace pipe.

    Hey troll,
    Yes they will. The world has seen what they’ve done and they are going to pay.
    Watch.

  61. oh the killers are afraid of the death threats they’ve been getting, 17 of them sited by DA? list them OC register

    and boo hoo
    Im quite sure all the criminal names that are ACTUALLY released the same day, get death threats too

    Hope Ron Thomas will release them

    1. Who said afraid? He said death threats. Part of the process. Also gives more reasons not to release anything. Oh, and delay the end due to investigating the death threats. 🙂

    2. They’re so scared. One of the “threats” was a simple statement that the killers should get the death penalty. That’s not a threat that’s an opinion.

  62. Hey corrupt I have a fun idea, after you collect all your bag of tricks go show a policeman that shinny new gun or fancy knife you bought. I wonder what will happen?

    1. If it in Fullerton the cop will pee in his pants. They do better with unarmed homeless dudes – but only when the odds are 6-1.

  63. Mr R- (since you are reading) when exactly can we expect findings?

    If the DA is so busy investigating why would he have time to read this blog? And why is it so unreasonable for the public to be up in arms about the DA not issuing a report? After this length of time, you certainly can’t call it vigilante justice by “kelly’s Army”. I think everyone has been MORE than patient.

    I realize the DA has no “boss” per se, but can the FBI intervene (or another federal agency) and supersede his powers?

    1. Did he say he read the blog? Or his investigators told him about it? Maybe he does read it. Who knows. He can read anything he wants. This blog is valuable to learn about how activists brains function and how they refuse to listen to anything said. One thing police and government leaders learn as the years go by is that there is no point even talking to or engaging activists. They don’t listen, they don’t wanna hear facts, and you are never going to change their mind no matter what you tell them. So why would he tell you guys anything? Oh he isn’t. Makes sense. He’s completing every facet of the investigation before he says or gives you anything. He runs the show. His timeline. If he was to charge someone with anything, they will be booked and released before you even hear about it. So keep whining.

      1. We are T-Rack’s boss in theory. The legal niceties leave us with two options. A recall, which is almost impossibly difficult, or the scheduled election way the hell off in 2014.

        The DA has huge power, and apart from the above two solutions, I don’t see what can be done about him that will rid you of him before 20 freaking 15. Laughably, every one of his filings lists the plaintiff as “The People of the State of California.” It’s the biggest joke in the legal system. They get to claim they are directly representing the citizens of the state, when they are only representing themselves.

        You guys elected this scum loser just last fucking year. Who was his opponent, Atilla the Hun? Who are your friends and neighbors that voted for this loser?

  64. I ♥ COPS on August 24, 2011
    But for Kelly Thomas resisting arrest….. HELLO???

    Goes to show even members of the The Hitler Youth can regurgitate propaganda.

    The Hitler Youth: Sons of the Fuhrer

    The Hitler Youth was an extremely important factor in Hitler’s Nazi Germany because of its significance in the “brainwashing” aspects of the regime. German children were enrolled in groups beginning at age ten and remained members until they were eighteen. These youth groups were the only ones that children were legally allowed to participate in outside of school. Because Hitler controlled the content taught in both the school curriculum and the youth groups, these impressionable children could not escape the ideals and practices of Nazism. Because they knew nothing but the glorification of Hitler and Germany as they were taught in schools and the strict work ethic and behavior taught in youth groups, this generation of children was selflessly devoted to Hitler and the Nazi regime. This army of followers had a major effect on Nazi Germany politically, economically, and socially.
    http://sitemaker.umich.edu/youthunderfascism/effects_of_the_hitler_youth

    Look it up moron before your Slidebar ‘sweetie’ passes you on to his next pal. So, FPD likes little boys. Are they all members of NAMBLA? Or just your little ‘Slidebar’ group. Slide–bar, gotta love it.

    1. Hmm. While I’m not quite as expansive as T-Rack in pronouncing free speech as criminal “threats,” by T-Rack’s standard this is a threat. You are too smart to make criminal threats, so do you at least agree that the “threats” claimed by the cops/DA are not legit? Hint…being consistent enhances credibility.

  65. All OF THESE AMORAL JACKASS COPS WILL BE HELD TO ANSWER. REALITY CAN USE ALL OF THE PSYOPS HE WANTS ON US, BUT, IT’S GONNA HAPPEN!

  66. INSTEAD OF NAZI INDOCTRINATION IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, OUR KIDS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE SAUL ALINSKY COMMUNIST BS. NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM HITLER’S PLAN.

  67. KELLY DIDN’T FIGHT WITH THESE ASSCLOWNS, THERE’S NO WAY THEY WOULD HAVE ALLLOWED HIM TO GET A FIST GOING. HE ONLY RAN APPROXIMATELY 40 FT. FROM THE BUS BENCH WHEN THESE ASSHOLES ASSAULTED HIM UNDER THE COLOR OF AUTHORITY.
    THEY HAD NO PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASONABLE SUSPICION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CALL FOR SERVICE OUT TO THE BUS TERMINAL WAS PHONY!

    1. You will see. The cops involved had no clue about any phony call. They answered a call for service. When the trial starts, only the real witnesses will come forward under oath and say the truth. The ones that are bought and paid up to this point will be long gone. Facts baby facts.

    2. Please turn off the caps lock. You have good points, so there’s no need to scream and make your comments difficult for readers. The rest of us could turn on our ALL CAPS TOO. We don’t for a reason.

  68. HEY REALITY, YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE YOUR PENSION CAN BE ATTACKED, THINK AGAIN ASSHOLE. WE THE PEOPLE OUT NUMBER YOU AND WE HAVE A SAY SO IN WHETHER OR NOT YOU COLLECT A PENSION AFTER FELONY HOMICIDE CONVICTIONS!

    1. No you don’t. You can’t get to it no matter what. You can try and yell and cry and whine, but you can’t touch a pension. Guaranteed.

      1. Again, Reality Is is pointing out gleefully what the sick system is. Even cops convicted of felonies get to keep their pensions. I think we have people from both the left and the right strongly supporting the cause here. Those on both sides need to agree that we need to get rid of the unionist laws that make Reality Is’s wet dreams reality.

  69. Reality Is :
    He ran. He fought. 7 minute fight. He lost. Screw him.

    You can’t tell the difference between a ‘fight’ and 6 on 1 beating? Try watching the Sports channel if you want to see fights. What happened to Kelly Thomas was gang violence! The gangsta’s just happened to be wearing badges or you would be screaming for the death penalty for all six, you lying filthy corrupt excuse for a human being. Hypocrisy drips from your lips like saliva from a jackal’s mouth at the smell of a rotting carcass. Did I call you a you lying filthy corrupt excuse for a human being? Well at least I got the “lying filthy corrupt excuse” part right.

    1. There you go believing the media again. You know as well as everyone else does that it wasn’t 6 cops on 1. It was 2 on 1, then 2 got there as it almost over, and 2 got there when it was completely over. So yes, 2 on 1, good long fight for life by all involved. You will see in court as the evidence plays out. LOL I just laughed at you spitting non sense when I read that. That was pretty funny. Jackal rotting carcass. I like it. 🙂

  70. KELLY RAN 40 FT FROM A BENCH WHEN HE WAS BEING UNLAWFULLY ASSAULTED. THOSE ASSCLOWNS DOG PILED ON HIM, HE HAD NO CHANCE. WHAT I AM SURPRISED AT IS THAT THESE COWARDS DIDN’T SHOOT HIM IN THE BACK LIKE THEY USUALLY DO.

    1. why do that? Not necessary. But as several people have said over the last month, if the cops really wanted to get rid of Kelly that bad, why wouldn’t they just grab him, take him to a field in another city, and do him there? Easy way to get it done. This clearly wasn’t planned. Kelly brought it on himself.

      1. This clearly WAS planned. Here’s the scenario:

        A fake call coached by one of the goons. The first two show up, sit him at the curb, goad him, threaten him, tell him you’d better run Kelly – your life depends on it. His moves off and they’re on his back.

        By now baldy and one eye are on the scene. Kelly is hogtied and the beat down begins. Kelly cries out and that only inflames our heroes in blue who break out the Tasers and begin the rib cage kicks. But Kelly is resisting! Each taser zap creates movement! Resisting. He calls out for his dad! The fine heroes of FPD are outraged! The final two show up for the final act. Baldy and one eye start the taser pummeling and the knee drops.

        Kelly isn’t moving anymore. The six begin to stare at each other huffing the intoxicating hot summer air entrained with vaporized human blood. Victory!

        But wait! A little reflection standing over the silent body causes sudden cold fear. What if he dies? What if they find out about the bogus call? What about the blood everywhere and the broken taser handle and all the blood and sweat and human grease on the proud FPD uniform. Jesus Christ, what if he lives?!

        Aw, shit he’s just a sick, dirty bum and we’re heroes. Fuck him. Should we call the paramedics, Sarge? Naw, wait a few minutes. Gotta think this out.

        Oh! Holy Shit! The fucking camera! Okay let’s get him outta here. He’s gotta die. take your time with the paramedic call, boss.

        Alright, let get together later and make this right. We’ll watch the video and get it right. Business as usual in DTF, right? Okay here they come act calm. Act like heroes.

  71. REALITY, IT IS CALLED THE USE OF FORCE CONTINUUM, PERHAPS YOU SLEPT THROUGH YOUR DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND USE OF FORCE CLASS?
    HEAD BLOWS ARE DEADLY FORCE, AND THEY ARE ONLY TO BE USED AS A LAST RESORT. YOU CLOWNS NEVER PROPERLY ESCALATED YOUR USE OF FORCE ON KELLY, MEANING YOU DID NOT USE LESS THAN LETHAL WEAPONS ON HIS AS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO.

    I HAVE ATTENDED AN LASD USE OF FORCE CLASS AND HAVE HAD A DEFENSIVE TACTICS CLASS, SO, WITH THAT SAID, USE OF FORCE IS NOT LAW, IT IS A DEPARTMENTAL POLICY AND PROCEDURE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW WITHIN LEGAL GUIDELINES! JACKASS!

  72. Reality Is :
    As I’ve said a million times and now it’s even more clear, you don’t dictate anything. The more you try to flex your kok, the more they will smash your kok into the ground. This anti police blog isn’t consistent with how normal people think. You are wearing out your message and you are starting to turn people against you because of your anti police beliefs no matter what the topic or situation. You are the same as the biggest racists in the world. You are the same as the Hispanic race groups. You are blind to reality. The only thing you see is what you want to see without considering the facts. Normal people are waiting patiently for the process to play out properly. As the racist groups do, your message is being drowned out by your clear anti police message no matter what happened here, before, or in the future. Keep it up. I’m enjoying everyone laughing in your face.

    Admin-time for the hook

      1. This blog can yank you at any point it wishes. Just like the OCR shut down comments on this article. You are not dumb, and you know this is Reality. They are allowing you to post on their site, and their readers are free to ask you to be banned.

        It’s up to the site owners, correct? That’s Reality, is it not.

        I engage you because most of what you say about the abysmal system is true. My goal is to try and change that system, in part by pointing out that the system you support and I and so many others oppose is in fact the current Reality, but can in fact be changed.

        As you cockily point out, it won’t be easy to change. The loser union layabouts have spent the money needed to get the system embedded. Now we need to spend money to change that. It can be done. It will be difficult, true. But it can be done.

        1. I don’t doubt you one bit. It took years of good economies and gracious politicians to get public employees where they are today. No one said a word until the economy crashed. Then it was wall street’s fault (no indictments), real estate loan markets fault (very little prosecution), and now it’s the public employees fault. I’m not sure who will be next. We asked for things and they were unanimously approved time and time again because cities had money to spare and wanted good benefits and good pay for their employees. Now they can’t afford what they have given, so they slowly have to take them back. It will be tough to get those back, and very tough to get as deep as you want them to get, but no doubt it could happen. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime but I could be wrong. I do know one thing, I would never recommend a job in city government or public work for anyone’s child today. Times are changing fast, and when they are 20-30 they won’t be able to support a family at all on the future wages of public employees. It’s reality, not saying it’s bad but it’s reality.

  73. Reality- you say bring it- bring what ? is that a threat ? you are almost literate so why not be more specific ? As far as if I live in Fullerton and if so I would see you everyday if I do are you the trash man or the mailman ? I have lived in Fullerton for well over 50 years. Are you threatening an old fat man ?

    1. I’ll leave that up to you. As this case, this video, this evidence, and this process is open to interpretation, so are we. If 50 years and you get out of the house, then you have met me many times. Nice to see you again. 🙂

  74. reality- You say “I’ll leave that up to you” what’s wrong ? do you lack the courage to support your convictions with a direct answer ? Oh wait now I sould like you, a coward. If I have met you then you must have be quite unremarkable otherwise I would have some recollection of an encounter with a coward but maybe not as I choose not to associate with human garbage such as you

      1. You really are a pathetic “creature,” RealityBlows. I have read many of your posts here, and the only thing you seem to take pride in is:

        1) Laughing at others,

        2) Bad-mouthing and slandering a murder victim and his family,

        3) Insulting all those who DO care about other people,

        4) Minimizing Kelly’s death at every opportunity with such flippant comments as “screw him,” “it happens,” “no big deal,” etc. as if your son’s goldfish died rather than a human being.

        I think it’s pretty clear, now, what you are (definition below)..

        so·ci·o·path
           [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Show IPA
        noun Psychiatry .
        a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

    1. Reality Is is not into any change. He touts the problems of the status quo and supports same. Our side needs to realize we need to change state laws and not merely Alzheimer’s-ridden local pols to solve the problem.

      RI loves these laws. He pretends to be a conservative, but he’s nothing more than a reactionary union scumbag. Nothing can change without getting rid of the cops union. Nada.

      It promotes secrecy, lack of accountability, pension payments to felons, etc. T-Rack is not much different than most DAs in the US. We need a system for prosecuting cops that at the very least, doesn’t permit DAs from the very same jurisdiction to make prosecutorial decisions about them. How much clearer could such a conflict of interest be?

      Still, clear as it is, it will be really tough to change because of the entrenched interests with big pocket books at stake who are well organized on the other side. Demonstrations are great. They are not the same in 2011 as well funded lobbying.

      The bad guys via lobbying got this system in place long ago, and it will take efforts beyond protest marches to change that. Again, the marches are great. They are just woefully insufficient given the problem.

      1. As a public employee and member of a public employee’s union, I am starting to have serious doubts about my general support for public unions.

        I do need them to negotiate for my pay (which is not great at all, contrary to what many of you believe). Of course my union has nothing of the power of the police unions.

        The police union along with the prison guard unions seem to have crossed the line from trying to ensure fair pay and working conditions for employees – which is a reasonable goal – to as ExPat says so well, promoting secrecy and lack of accountability.

        Here’s a tip for Republicans and conservatives. If you want to get change to this system, stop attacking teachers unions and focus your wrath on police and prison guard unions. Liberals like myself will support change once they are aware of the facts.

  75. Reality- waht do want me to bring when you say “bring it” ? I’m a fat old man with limited education, unlike you. I’ve got many things i could bring please be specific i.e. date, place, time, etc.

  76. I Saw The Video! :
    This clearly WAS planned. Here’s the scenario:
    A fake call coached by one of the goons. The first two show up, sit him at the curb, goad him, threaten him, tell him you’d better run Kelly – your life depends on it. His moves off and they’re on his back.
    By now baldy and one eye are on the scene. Kelly is hogtied and the beat down begins. Kelly cries out and that only inflames our heroes in blue who break out the Tasers and begin the rib cage kicks. But Kelly is resisting! Each taser zap creates movement! Resisting. He calls out for his dad! The fine heroes of FPD are outraged! The final two show up for the final act. Baldy and one eye start the taser pummeling and the knee drops.
    Kelly isn’t moving anymore. The six begin to stare at each other huffing the intoxicating hot summer air entrained with vaporized human blood. Victory!
    But wait! A little reflection standing over the silent body causes sudden cold fear. What if he dies? What if they find out about the bogus call? What about the blood everywhere and the broken taser handle and all the blood and sweat and human grease on the proud FPD uniform. Jesus Christ, what if he lives?!
    Aw, shit he’s just a sick, dirty bum and we’re heroes. Fuck him. Should we call the paramedics, Sarge? Naw, wait a few minutes. Gotta think this out.
    Oh! Holy Shit! The fucking camera! Okay let’s get him outta here. He’s gotta die. take your time with the paramedic call, boss.
    Alright, let get together later and make this right. We’ll watch the video and get it right. Business as usual in DTF, right? Okay here they come act calm. Act like heroes.

    My belief all along is he and they both knew they were going to murder him that night

    Any commanding officers need to be immediately removed from duty for dereliction of duty for not even forcing a day off for the cowards after it was known their victim was in a coma

    ^Proof they didn’t give a shit AND DEFINITELY held a BIAS

    If the cops accidentally (LOL) beat to death some random downtown business owner you can bet your ass the officers involved would have immediately been on leave ..

    ^^ but not when it is bums.

    1. You couldnt have seen the video. Your details are all out of order. Everyone will see that when the video is released.

      I will be here to rub it in your face when you are ALL wrong. When the audio from the slidebar call is released and when the audio from the officers recordings are released and of course, the video…you will all see and hear how it really happened…and that’s when this site will start to JUSTIFY why they made mistakes and that’s when this will all end…

      but some of us won’t stop there, this site will publicly known as the first place that it got it wrong.

    1. @ MP58

      50 + years in Fullerton? Dang, I could never stay in one place so long. Feet get itchy after a while. 😎

      Nice to learn there is more than one old fat man here, bro.

  77. Reality Is…. = troll…. he flip flopped from 2 cops commiting murder to no crime… troll, ignore him. His momma cooked him some fries amd nuggets is why he disappears regularly… he invites us to come “get some ” in Newport but does not post an address… coward. I will personally say that I do not want to be beaten to death like Kelly so flying under the radar is best.. but Reality threatens, goads and plays a tough guy but posts no address to show up to…

    1. and I never said 2 cops committed murder. I said at the most two cops will be charged, as a way to appease the activists, and not charged with murder. They will be the PR charge in trial.

      1. Tell the folks about the rest of the reality. The DA, if he prosecutes anyone, will intentionally tank the case. The DA is the real enemy, people. He’s now threatening is. The question is, what are we going to do about it. He’s using his unchecked power. What’s the plan to check it?

        Most here are merely preaching to the choir about the fact that Kelly was murdered. Fine and good, but the choir can’t do jack all without a plan to get the scum prosecuted and convicted.

        1. Tell the folks about the rest of the reality. The DA, if he prosecutes anyone, will intentionally tank the case. The DA is the real enemy, people. He’s now threatening [us]. The question is, what are we going to do about it. He’s using his unchecked power. What’s the plan to check it?

          ExPat: Someone said he’s not up for reelection for some years. So, what can be done about it? Clearly the conniving sucker feels insulated in his position. Of course many people volunteering and contributing to his competitor’s campaign in the next race (no matter what political position he runs for) would be a good thing, since he shows obviously signs of corruption, but it doesn’t change anything now!

          If several hundred/thousand(?) people wrote the Attorney General’s or Governor’s office demanding an investigation into corruption in the DA’s office would it accomplish anything? Would writing letters to the California Senators and your Congressmen help? We are agreed that the DA is the lynchpin in this cover-up of a brutal murder by six of the FPD, but you are the legal expert. Are their legal remedies? Can a DA be recalled?

          If not, why don’t people actually go through with organizing protests on the DA’s office? Be sure to inform the media if you do. They will ignore the first protest or two, but if you can muster large enough crowds and get it on Youtube the media will probably start covering it a after a few protests. Perhaps a loud enough outcry will get the attention of State government?

          Everyone has some weakness. My suggestion is find his weakness and rip into it. Does he have any old enemies you can support?

          1. Doesn’t it seem like the only actual dirt that comes out of DA offices is when the assistant DA’s run for their office? I saw that in San Bernardino. Other than that, it seems like DA’s are hard to touch. I think as you just wrote Xer, proving it is the hard part. Finding hundreds and thousands of people that actually think the DA’s office is corrupt, and then finding numerous cases that show corruption. I think even if you could find a case or a few cases, then wouldn’t the feds look into those cases and possibly indict the DA for the corruption charges? That whole internal DA process is complex, so I’m sure Ex Pat Law would have an answer for us. I don’t think you could rally general support of many people without hardcore proven facts though.

  78. Reality- Newport is a long bus ride from the murder scene on OCTA so I better get a monthly pass. Senior pass that is. Sorry for any typos fat people have fat fingers

  79. If everyone stopped paying attention to that troll reality is, he’d give up. I appreciate this blog and see no point in wasting any further attention on obvious trolls.

    1. We Are All One on August 25, 2011
      If everyone stopped paying attention to that troll reality is, he’d give up.

      This creature is a revolting puke, but we could give it a go. Thing about trolls is, it only works if everybody follows suit, and IT won’t go away overnight. IT will keep trying probably until removed at requests to admin by the general board population (wouldn’t that be democracy in action?) Perhaps, if everyone ignores all the trolls together? Being unable to suppress their reflexive instincts to spew propaganda and lies (mostly to get the attention from grownups their parents never gave them), they will still post swill supporting police brutality and probably continue lying about Kelly and the Thomas family,

      Wasn’t it Joe Sipowicz asked us to ignore them some days ago? Unfortunately, I was having fun playing with one of the little monsters at the time and didn’t follow Joe’s suggestion, but it later peed on my shoe. They can seem fun for a few minutes, but they get old very quickly. This Reality IS NOT has long since passed it’s ‘due date.’

      If we ignore them completely their lies will stand unchallenged. Is that okay? If you respond directly to them it only encourages them, but perhaps honest information can continue being posted without addressing the dreck directly? There is some strength in unity. Their ‘power’ comes from inflaming others and their ‘message’ is accomplished through repetition of lies.

      Honest citizens may initially support the police brutality through misunderstanding of the truth and fear for their own safety, but honest citizens don’t sound like broken records and CAN be swayed by information and reasonable argument. Trolls respond positively to neither because they have an agenda to promote.

  80. corrupt on August 25, 2011
    Reality Is…. = troll…. he flip flopped from 2 cops commiting murder to no crime… troll

    Troll, huh? Well, it has been clear from the get-go he is sub-human.

  81. I think the next most effective place to protest would be during the weekdays at the Orange County DA’s office which is located at 401 Civic Center Drive in Santa Ana, CA. T-Rack’s suite (too big to call it an office) is on the 10th floor.

    1. You can’t get enough people. The activists you hire are in class and the others are working their part time jobs. 🙂

  82. I will ignore Reality going forward as the old saying goes ” never argue with an idiot because people will not be able to tell you apart from each other”

    1. MP58 on August 25, 2011
      Xer if your feet get itchy try changing your socks

      LOL

      Ah, I’ve always enjoyed seeing places I’ve never been before. Hard to break old habits. 😉

  83. MP58 :I will ignore Reality going forward as the old saying goes ” never argue with an idiot because people will not be able to tell you apart from each other”

    Aren’t you taking about yourselves…

    ” never argue with an idiot because people will not be able to tell you apart from each other”

  84. Look how quickly the DA calls a press conference and puts out information, photos, etc. of the mother accused of throwing her kid over the railing in the parking structure.

    Oh, yeah, she’s in jail, too although the investigation is ongoing. No waiting here for “all the facts to be known.”

  85. In the court of public opinion everyone can see the wrongness of what happened to Kelly Thomas. It doesn’t matter who he was,he happened to be Kelly Thomas,mentally ill young man living on the street in your town USA.And your police dept could be almost any other police dept. USA. If Kelly had been a stray dog wandering the street near that bus depot,not harming or threatening anyone,he would have received more humane treatment than a homeless man doing the same thing. Society is sick,mentally ill, desensitized to the worth of a human life.

    What happened to Kelly Thomas has been increasingly occuring all over this country. Once there was a little woman who came from wealth and chose to live among homeless and downtrodden on the streets of Calcutta. She saw value in all human life and made a life’s work of helping and caring for them when others cast them to the side. Her name was Agnes Gonhxa Bojaxhui born in Yugoslavia. Her life was legendary and exemplary as she became the advocate of the homeless and sick living on the streets. How many of those were suffering from mental illness along with starvation and physical illness. We may never know. What matters is that ONE little woman made a difference in many lives. Many Kelly Thomases.

    But that was India,the filthy,dirty,dusty streets of Calcutta,not the paved landscaped,street lighted pavement streets of California,USA. We are supposed to be better than that here in America.

    I have seen it with my own eyes on city streets where humanity lies in helplessness and few even bat an eye..rather, they turn blind eyes away,lest they see the distasteful sight of the streets. Are we that uninformed,that inadequate,that cold to the ocean of humanity crying out for help? The sad truth is yes. Yes, we could get a bowl of water for a dog,or a piece of bread,but nothing but denial is given to a man on the street.

    Kelly Thomas’s death has brought awareness now to the harsh reality that there are many Kellys out there. Those of us who are so incensed at the events that led up to his brutal death and the cause of his death are now put on notice ourselves.. We who do nothing will no longer be unaccountable.

    A particularly favority story which most people recognize from childhood perhaps has always inspired and served as an example of a how to do the right thing. There was a businessman traveling through an area inhabited by a certain culture other than his own. He came across a man who had been badly beaten and laying in the side of the street. Many,religious,right appearing people crossed the side of the street away from the injured man so as to shun him. The traveling businessman brought him from the street,secured a hotel room,paid for his lodging and care,and pledged to return and pay for any further incurrence on behalf of his care of this stranger. He didn’t have to think twice, he didn’t have to get approved grants,he didn’t have to determine which ordinance was correct or inforceable,no he didn’t do any of that. He simply did the right thing,the thing of good conscience.He was a good man,and he wasn’t even from that culture,he was a Samaritan.

    Kelly Thomas was the focus of a rip in the fabric of a designer woven garment. He and every human being living a lesser style of living aside from the color coordinated,designer lifestyle of the rich and famous,credit card maxed out,wanna be’s. He probably didn’t have credit,and he likely survived with a bare minimum of income from a disability check. He likely couldn’t manage that.He was mentally incapable.He had not a groove in which he fit. He was a drifter,a ship without a port,a child in a grown up world.

    Without knowing this particular man,we just cannot answer a lot of lingering questions as to his motivation for his response to the confrontation by police. Likely fear of one kind or another was his initial reaction. We all have fears of one kind or another. That doesn’t justify being murdered for our fear.

    I remember when police officers were fathers of school mates, brothers of friends,and they were there to keep the peace,offer assistance,answer a question,protect life and property. These men were good, solid citizens themsleves and had integrity and honor. They were interested in truth and justice and their actions supported their belief. They treated others with respect and even the harshest criminals were handled with restraint.

    But that was long ago. That breed of a policeman has become on the endangered speicies list. They have been replaced with something that resembles hardened criminals of the worst kind. They have become armed and dangerous and dishonest and lost all respect for the people who are not one of them. They have created unions to protect their crimes and cover their errors and protect their incomes. They are not your friendly officers of yesterday,no, the contrary,they are hard as nails,unsociable,interrogators and accusers of any but themselves.

    What happened in Fullerton is happening all over. Power pumped up police shooting first,asking the questions only on trumped up false reports scripted to fit a scenario where the citizen is the aggressor and the poor helpless policeman is the victim..They are pushing the envelopes to invade homes illegally, steal,kill,harass,intimidate,and they have been getting away with it for too long.

    If Kelly THomas’death has taught us one thing,it showed us the brutality that was done in plain view of numerous people too frightened to intervene. We have become mice and they have become dirty rats. But talk is cheap,and talking is only going to go so far with action to back it up.Now the ball is in your/our court. What are you/we going to do with it?

    Ron Thomas has a tremendous weight on his shoulder. He carries the guilt of a cry he can never answer. He carries the memory of a child he could not help. He carries the wall of obstruction of a system run amuck of which he was once a “brother”. He carries disillusion of a portion of humanity who could stoop so low. He carries also though, a hope,and by his standing,he found many who are standing with him. And for that he is a most grateful man. Is he using every tool available to avenge his son’s murder? Would anyone expect less? Step into his shoes for a day. Let’s not with that on anyone else.

    Kelly has left a gift to your community,and it’s an inspiration for all of us to see how you Fullerton people and others are making a stand,drawn a liine in the sand,and it is my hope that your actions will bring great change against this brutality by cops,and that one by one,an army will rise up to pick up the helpless from our streets. God Bless all you brave hearts.

  86. The Do-nothing DA :
    Look how quickly the DA calls a press conference and puts out information, photos, etc. of the mother accused of throwing her kid over the railing in the parking structure.
    Oh, yeah, she’s in jail, too although the investigation is ongoing. No waiting here for “all the facts to be known.”

    COVERING UP RIGHT IN OUR FACES. THIS TOWN WILL BE EVEN MORE DANGEROUS AFTER THESE ANIMALS ARE CLEARED AND BACK TO PARTY AND GET REVENGE.

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