Sooner or Later, Social Justice For Kelly Thomas

It’s funny, in a sick sort of way, but the very types who used to bray the loudest about the need for “social justice” have been virtually silent in Fullerton in the wake of the Kelly Thomas murder at the hands of members of an out-of-control police department.

The graying establishment Democrats had been hiding behind their drawn chintz curtains, curled up in an intellectual fetal position on their plastic slip-covered Naugahyde sofas. It was just too scary and, well, controversial to say anything, let alone actually do anything.

Fortunately, others, such as Stephan Baxter, Marlena Carrillo and Lauren Becker are willing to keep up the pressure.

Here is a link to Becker’s website that reminds us exactly what a Culture of Corruption can do, and try to get away with, when left to its own devices. It also reminds us what we can do to push back against an entrenched system.

The bars stayed open and the bands played on…

Democrats like Jan Flory, and Molly McClanahan and Pam Keller didn’t say a word in the aftermath of the murder. No, they only got outraged when people outside their cozy little circle took the reins of government out of the hands of three incompetent old fools.

These people are a lot more worried about the fate of the bureaucracy than they are about the people of Fullerton. All of them.

 

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116 thoughts on “Sooner or Later, Social Justice For Kelly Thomas

  1. For the Old Liberal clique “social justice” was just a hollow abstraction. It was nice so long as you could get other people to pick up the tab and didn’t have to get your hands dirty.

    You could have added Loretta Sanchez to your list. She likes showing up to library openings and such but never said ‘boo” when it came to KT. Wouldn’t want to upset the cops, now would we?

  2. Those very types haved been and are afraid of ‘biting the hand that feeds them’, if they were to speak up against the police.

    VIP = Very Important Post

      1. Its ironic the party is called the Democratic Party.

        “Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Democracy allows people to participate equally—either directly or through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws.” – Wikipedia

        “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”

        “Government is not known for ever maintaining ANYTHING” (US)

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        No, They Can’t: Why Government Fails-But Individuals Succeed
        John Stossel (Author)

        “…outlines and exposes the fallacies and facts of the most pressing issues of today’s social and political climate—and shows how our intuitions about them are, frankly, wrong:

        • the unreliable marriage between big business, the media, and unions

        • the myth of tax breaks and the ignorance of their advocates

        • why “central planners” never create more jobs and how government never really will

        • why free trade works—without government Interference

        • federal regulations and the trouble they create for consumers

        • the harm caused to the disabled by government protection of the disabled

        • the problems (social and economic) generated by minimum-wage laws

        • the destructive daydreams of “health insurance for everyone”

        • bad food vs. good food and the government’s intrusive, unwelcome nanny sensibilities

        • the dumbing down of public education and teachers’ unions

        • how gun control actually increases crime…”

        1. it’s called the Democrat Party and John Stossel is a putz. Shakespeare was an author. Sorry the Dems are twits out there apparently, but I don’t see as how the Republicans are better. Who was in charge when KT was killed?

  3. To the horse’s asses who claimed that I was exaggerating the FPOA’s staging of the MADD victims appearing in front of the City Council last Summer, you may want to read the e-mail that the Fullerton Police Officers Association just sent out to all Fullerton families…

    ”Kiger and Whitaker are a dangerous combination for Fullerton’s families”.

    “John was seriously injured in a fatal DUI crash in 2009 that killed his three friends, Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson. This tragedy changed us forever.

    Last month, Councilmen Travis Kiger and Bruce Whitaker voted against accepting $50,000 in state grant money for DUI checkpoints in Fullerton.

    And, when families of DUI crash victims, like ours, asked the Council to support these lifesaving checkpoints, all Councilman Whitaker could say was, “it was difficult to engage in a rational discussion given the pushback from those who can’t separate logic from emotion.”

    Travis Kiger and Bruce Whitaker do not support public safety, and do not deserve your support. Please vote NO on Kiger and Whitaker.

    — Tony, Betsy, Michael, Jon and Chad Wilhite

    1. The Unions point they are trying to decieve others with is completely disingenuous. Its even projecting, why would anybody think there are bloodthirsty unthinking sociopaths in Fullertons public view.

      1. The e-mail sounds like a police officers union hit piece directed at to Kiger and Whitaker to me.

        “the line and do our bidding or we’ll make you look like you don’t suppport public safety”.

        There hopes are that this will instill fear and insecurity and imply that Kiger and Whjtaker don’t care about Fullerton families safety because their own principles don’t support checkpoints that strip you of your constitutional right to unreasonable searches of your person without probable cause.

  4. Sorry. My last post appeared under Anonymous”.

    I should also add that I received a glossy campaign mailer from the Fullerton Police and Fire departments warning that “Bruce Whitaker’s lax marijuana policies could jeopardize our families safety”

    This from a bunch of clowns who beat a 137 pound homeless man to death and when their brothers from the Fire department arrived, they treated these murderers before they attended to Kelly Thomas.

    1. FL, actually what it said: Bruce Whitaker’s lax marijuana “polices”…

      Which of course is a self-condemnation from the FPOA – the Gang That Can’t Shoot Straight, but can still kill people, nevertheless.

  5. The persons mentioned along with the political opportunist have used Kelly Thomas like a 5 dollar TJ whore. When they crawl back under their rocks and their 15 minutes is up maybe Kelly can rest and the city can heal.

    1. In my opinion the political machine for the last decade has used the public like a $10,000 an hour Vegas escort. The FPD has used the less fortunate, poorly represented and the downtrodden as fodder for the criminal justice system’s meat grinder and as of late for the morgue. The party is coming to an end whether you like it or not. The money is being spent faster than it is coming in. You cannot change or stop that, only drastic cuts, levies and tax increases or a filing will. Looks like the myopic with their heels dug in will sadly result in the latter. Anyone care for a parcel tax with a side of sales tax hike and a shot of service cuts garnished with infrastructure decay? Cumin’ right up boss.

  6. Say it four times if you like. The evidence is Kelly’s smashed in face – courtesy of Wolfe, Ramos, Cicinelli, Blatney, Hampton and Craig.

    Oh, yeah, and Danny Hughes, trainer and boss of the gorillas.

    (apology to gorillas)

    1. Your exactly right Huh?

      The FPOA must have had FFFF blogger John Doe proofread it for them first before they published it with spelling errors.

  7. No healing without admission of guilt.

    No justice, no comfort for the powerful. The ladder of justice has no top and no bottom rungs.

      1. Justice for Kelly, right now means getting votes to oust the lying greedy old psycho boys out.
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        I was researching Christian Bale, this reminded me of the crazy cops in this city… but the I realized, damn he doesnt have a few hundred enablers, partners, collaborators, and henchmen on his side. There is a large group of sickfucks in this city, holy ass world class sickfucks!!!

        Cristian Bale in American Psycho (2000) reminds me of the Fullerton “altercation”
        Bale is one of very biggest actors in the world right now, (Batman). Maybe he got the Batman parts not just because of his skill, but also the stark contrast between Batman and American Psycho.

        Murder scene of a man in American Psycho (2000)
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvBAEp3Znn4

    1. Dick Cheese, NO :”15 minutes” doesnt apply here this is top picture on Wikipedia (Police Brutality), they did use a before picture.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality

      FPD is in DEEP, the old City govermnet is just trying to cover up its many many years of SHIT!!!, REPRESENT THE EFFING CITY FOOLS!!!

      FPD has a situation that is worse than the LA Riots 1992. LAPD has not learn very much since about Police Brutality and Abuse, thats why the Federal Government has Judicial Oversight.

      1992 Los Angeles riots Wikiopedia.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LA_riots

  8. Blind Roy Fullerton :
    Blaming the Democrats? So What were the Republicans doing… Walking slowly way behind the band wagon…. Republicans , Democrats,,,, They both pretty much suck…. Vote No on proposition Yes?
    Justice for Kelly……
    Justice for Kelly………..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLB3Ok3SEUY&feature=youtu.be

    Well said BlindRoy!
    The majority on this blog speak as if Republicans rule and Democrats drool…
    As you stated, “both parties suck”! At least for every dipshit that’s a Republican, there’s another one for the Democrats.

    1. If Republicans spent all their time boohooing over the plight of the disenfranchised I bet Mr. Peabody would have tuned them up for hypocrisy, too.

  9. Does anyone exactly how long after Kelly was admitted to the hospital this picture was taken; the next day, 2 days later, or _______?

  10. Fullerton liberals schilling for the police union, screaming reefer madness at their opponents, demanding a rigged backroom appointment for chief—will the Ghost of Ralph Kennedy please arise and restore their conscience?

  11. Fullerton liberal covering for the police union, screaming reefer madness at their opponents, demanding a rigged backroom appointment for the new chief… may the Ghost of Ralph Kennedy arise and restore their conscience!

  12. “These people are a lot more worried about the fate of the bureaucracy than they are about the people of Fullerton. All of them.”-Mr. Peabody

    Damn straight!

  13. I have sympathy for those who have had family killed or injured by drivers driving under the influence – let’s get that stated first.

    *However* the MADD representatives (not one, more than one!) who spoke used the same presentation, virtually word-for-word. Don’t know who wrote it, btw (MADD? FPOA? OR?)

    If a MADD representative is going to speak, speaking from their heart/personal experience is far better than restating the same words over and over (the latter tends to lessen the impact).

    I support the ability to obtain legally/legitimately prescribed medical marijuana; I have friends whose health is reliant upon it and they don’t abuse it.

  14. LOVE KFI !!!!! THANKS FOR REPORTING THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THE 95 PRIOR POLICE CONTACTS KT HAD AS WELL AS ILLUSTRATING THE VIOLENT CONTACTS HE HAD IN THE PAST WITH 13 OTHER OC DEPARTMENTS….

    MY FAVORITE IS WHEN HE TRIED TO ATTACK GRANDPA WITH THE FIREPLACE POKER…

    JUSTICE FOR FPD

    1. There are many people in the general population that are not in custody that have rap sheets a mile long and don’t end up bludgeoned, electrocuted, and embalmed or cremated as a result. Kelly Thomas was unarmed and was tried convicted and executed in the streets by agents of the State in front of the whole world on camera.

      1. Justice for Cicinelli, Wolfe, Hampton, Craig, Ramos, Baltney, and everyone who tried to cover it up… Truth, you live lie….. Try being a truthseeker and you won’t like what you find, TRUTH won’t set you free….. Schizophrenia,, punishable by death………… Violence, its the only way we can make y

      2. Justice for Cicinelli, Wolfe, Hampton, Craig, Ramos, Baltney, and everyone who tried to cover it up… Truth, you live lie….. Try being a truthseeker and you won’t like what you find, TRUTH won’t set you free….. Schizophrenia,, punishable by death………… Violence, its the only way we can make you see sense….

    2. yes, I bet this is the truth because Kelly Thomas was a paranoid schizophrenic. Kelly’s form of schizophrenia put him in s world where anyone may be perceived as a direct threat to his well-being.
      I know truth’s inference is Kelly thomas was a violent person, and truth is right to accuse Kelly of this. However, his mental illness, not a desire to harm others made him fight others as he probably believed he needed to protect himself from others harming him

    3. Mine is when his dear old dad Ron Thomas called the cops on him for stealing his $500 guitar. Eat your words Ron Thomas, Kelly was a low down thief. Maybe good ole Danny Hughes can obsolve him of that too.

  15. WHEN ARE YOU FFFF’ERS GOING TO DO A SPREAD ON THIS DOUCHE!!!
    JENNIFER FITZGERALD IS AGAINST REDEVELPOMENT?
    SHE SUPPORTED BANKHEAD AND JONES IN THE RECALL
    SHE SUPPORTED THEM THROUGHOUT THIER CARREERS.
    SHE IS RUNNING BECAUSE SHE IS A LOBBYIST AND SHE WANTS TO ENRICH HERSELF BY GAINING NEW POWER!!!!

    DO NOT VOTE OR HER!!!!

  16. JENNIFER’S COW IS IN!!! :
    WHEN ARE YOU FFFF’ERS GOING TO DO A SPREAD ON THIS DOUCHE!!!
    JENNIFER FITZGERALD IS AGAINST REDEVELPOMENT?
    SHE SUPPORTED BANKHEAD AND JONES IN THE RECALL
    SHE SUPPORTED THEM THROUGHOUT THIER CARREERS.
    SHE IS RUNNING BECAUSE SHE IS A LOBBYIST AND SHE WANTS TO ENRICH HERSELF BY GAINING NEW POWER!!!!
    DO NOT VOTE OR HER!!!!

    1. Did you listen to KFI @noon? Who is the rabbied psycho. Your calm sweet Kelly Thomas. I told you all suckers there was more to come.

  17. I believe that “Jennifer’s Cow Is In” comments above meant to say the Fitzgerald was a huge supporter of Redevelopment in Fullerton…… That is why she consistently supported and/or was paid to work for the campaigns of Dr. Jones, Former Chief McKinley and Don (I can not keep my eye’s open) Bankhead.

    Other than that “Jennifer’s Cow….” is right on!

  18. As a democrat I have to admit I am embarrased at my parties response to this tragedy. I agree, with the statements about the establishment politicians, more concerned about preserving their status than doing the right thing. I do however wish this site would discuss the complex issue of poverty. There are thousands of people in Fullerton who are similar to Kelly Thomas ,or only, marginally more skilled. They are all poor and they are struggling. I was one of them for 6 years, living in one of Fullertons many boondoggles created by Dick Jones and Don Bankhead, and “inspected” annually by the city. You would have less homeless people in Fullerton if there was safe , sanitary and decent housing for the poor. There are low-income apartments but almost all are sub-standard. If you complain about the conditions like I did, you will face brutal retaliation from the slumlord and get nothing but smoke and mirrors from the city. When will this site do some indepth reporting of the various department heads? I dealt with Kirk Warren, Linda Morad and Juilie Kuntze….their attitude , was, whoa, how did you get all the way through to me?? I am a public employee, I dont have to do my job.
    Living in squalor is miserable, wouldnt it be great if Fullerton could take the Kelly Thomas tragedy and learn about the poor, and how hard it is to climb the socio-economic-ladder in a city full of corrupt police, that target low income apartment complexes to selectively enforce their ban on overnight street parking…because they know the poor never have enough parking, or the police ignore and in some cases may be in cahoots with unscrupulous towing companies ,that target low-income complexes for the aforementioned reasons. How assinine is it that poor people sometimes pay several hundred dollars a month in parking tickets. They have to waste so much time hunting for a parking space blocks from their apartment.. There is rampant consumer fraud in these low income complexes, with tenants being scammed left and right. I have watched in disgust at Lind Morad doing a presentation on how the city is siezing alleged sub-standard housing, showing pictures that showed no blight at all….while properties like I lived in continue to crumble to the ground.
    If your first reaction to my comments is why dont the poor just move or get a better paying job , then you have learned nothing this year about the poor. Telling a poor tenant to just move is like telling a battered woman to just leave, its not that easy. You have to have the money to move and you have to know the place your moving to is actually an improvement.
    I think city building inspectors that are getting paid well to inspect a property should actually do their job….I think the poor should not fear and loathe the city staff and police. I have tried going through non-profits on the left on this issue, they just used me…and pretended to care….I implore this site and it followers to reach out to the poor and see your tax dollars at work or I should say not working.

    1. Politically Im all over the place not really R or D or I or L, its a greedy game about the middle with divide and destroy.

      “A rising tide floats all boats” the city state and world is overly debt laden. Givaways are expensive to human culture, also an old and very common adage (Give a man a fish…)

      I hear you they actually are!!! (FFFF site)
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      “Friends For Fullertons Future”

      “About Us
      Intelligent, Responsible, and Accountable. These are the general qualities we seek in our elected representatives – plus the independence and integrity required to be effective leaders.We intend to support candidates in Fullerton who possess the willingness and ability to use their independent intelligence in weighing public matters; who will be responsible to his or her constituents; and who will insist on accountability for all the actions that he or she takes. We will actively oppose incumbents who have failed to demonstrate the qualities described above; who fail to remember that they are servants of the public; who believe that being a “team player” is more important than principle; who don’t have the courage to stand on principle when it means standing alone; who are not humble enough to admit error and are incapable of learning from their mistakes; and those who fail to treat constituents with the respect and dignity they deserve. And we will oppose candidates who through their words or actions indicate that they would not provide intelligent and responsible leadership, accountable to citizens of Fullerton. If you agree with our philosophy, you are a friend of Fullerton’s future.” -Friends For Fullertons Future website under About Us

    2. Ken, I have been poor, I have had to balance buying food and paying Fullerton parking fines because I merely parked in front of my built in the 1920’s low income apartment building that did not have a parking area for the tenants.
      As a fullerton lifer who has lived on differing levels of socio-economic status, I have always known Fullerton’s government persecutes the poor while covering up this fact with mere photo-op events like building a park in a low-income neighborhood. Hey, most of parking fines most of these people in the same neighborhood paid for merely parking on the same street where they live would have built a better park and better housing for these same people.

  19. Something tells me a huge portion of the murderer supporters are Republicans. Not sure about the Dems in Fullerton, but in general, Democrats do way more than Republicans for social justice. That’s why, if we elect Romney/Ryan, LGBT, immigrants, elderly, the poor, pregnant women, sick people who are relying on stem cell research, etc., etc., will suffer. But if you guys want to give the GOP all the credit for the minimal charges that have been brought against Fullerton’s thugs and call that a social justice contribution, have fun with that.

  20. Lifesaving service – I would like to agree with you but I just can’t! Far too much crap is happening at FPD despite the nice words that emanate from Acting Chief Danny! The list of transgressors who have been fired, or retired early is quite long. Remember, this is the Great Recession and getting another job is not easy. Yet, the laundry list of FPD folks caught stealing, smashing recording devices, covering up continual problems is ongoing. What a list in the past year!
    Do I have faith that Fullerton will do the right thing? Yes, if pushed by the FEDS! Otherwise, I have no faith in Fullerton to do the right thing as a city bureaucracy!

  21. Fullerton is the land of provincial liberals and rabid conservatives. These two entities over the decades have mind melded into rabid provincials who ruthlessly attack anyone who attacks the old regime of Fullerton regardless if they are conservative or liberal.
    These pillars of society were built from flimsy morals, ethics abutted by misuse of tax dollars and the bought loyalty of municpal public sector unions.
    when the truth their police force was abusing the civil rights of their community, these pillars of society stood stock still. when the good people of fullerton relentlessly demanded accountability from their municpal government, the pillars began to crumble and continue to crumble.
    Hopefully, the pillars of our society will join the dust of history so the present may give to the future a story of hope where evil is conquered by the good people of fullerton

  22. I was saddened to see so many within the Fullerton Community want to anoint Dan Hughes chief last night before we get basic answers about Kelly Thomas and of course real justice. The good Democrats, Independents and Republicans care but many apparently are not only willing but eager to throw Kelly and justice over a cliff to be able to “move on”. Most of the leadership in Fullerton are willing to throw Kelly over that cliff as well. (i.e. most candidates running for city council).

    Justice for all should not just be a slogan but the foundation of all caring communities.

    Those that provide only lipservice to justice include:
    Flory, Fitzgerald, Alvarez, Jarimillo and Don (I can’t keep my eyes open) Bankhead, (the guy who arrogantly lies on his campaign signs which erroneously says Re-elect Bankhead. The word re-elect refers to encumbents only.) But dandy Don has no problem lying to his fellow Fullertonians.

    SAD, SAD, SAD!!!

    Fulleton stay awake, stay vigilant, stay strong and stay true to your principles. If you do, the good guys will triumph come November 6th!

    1. we will because we must ensure the good people of fullerton will no longer be physically and emotionally abused by their police force, financially abused and dismissed by their city representatives and watch their town remodeled by myopic visionaries/public servants into a nanny-police state.

  23. Anonymous :
    To the horse’s asses who claimed that I was exaggerating the FPOA’s staging of the MADD victims appearing in front of the City Council last Summer, you may want to read the e-mail that the Fullerton Police Officers Association just sent out to all Fullerton families…
    ”Kiger and Whitaker are a dangerous combination for Fullerton’s families”.
    “John was seriously injured in a fatal DUI crash in 2009 that killed his three friends, Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson. This tragedy changed us forever.
    Last month, Councilmen Travis Kiger and Bruce Whitaker voted against accepting $50,000 in state grant money for DUI checkpoints in Fullerton.
    And, when families of DUI crash victims, like ours, asked the Council to support these lifesaving checkpoints, all Councilman Whitaker could say was, “it was difficult to engage in a rational discussion given the pushback from those who can’t separate logic from emotion.”
    Travis Kiger and Bruce Whitaker do not support public safety, and do not deserve your support. Please vote NO on Kiger and Whitaker.
    — Tony, Betsy, Michael, Jon and Chad Wilhite

    Number one I want the poice dept to do their job, actively looking for 502’s. a blind fucktard could thrown a now illegal lawn dart and hit at least 4 drunkards DTF on any given night, MADD, if you gave one shit about lives, you would skip the highschool dont drink kids speeches, they laugh at you, and drink anyway. TRY going down to DTF and see what yor pals BANKHEAD< FLORY<KELLER ANd all the other twats what the yhave done to DTF, they have turned it into a drunkfest, for off duty cops who love to roofy the apparent ever ending line of teenage underage girls to be fondled by Fullertons finest.SOCO, where you want to be roofied and wrecked by off duty cops. Great job Fullertons finest. AND THIS AINT TRAVIS<OR the greasy headed retarded girl who thinks she still lives here. She gave notice? I was told she never worked here, why did she give her notice and say she was gone , but she is at the city council- please someone help that retarded girl. Thank you for clarifying her illness Coffman. She said her name was SPERMY. Is this true?

  24. Lifesaving Service :
    Not admitting your problem is a sign of the greater issue.

    LS…The one that doesn’t want to admit there was a problem was Ron Thomas. Listen to KFI yesterday Bill Carroll @ noon. RON was asked to talk and he refused ..Chicken Shit. Your ship is sailing Fred.

  25. Attention parents: If you don’t make sure your children stay in school they’ll never learn to write!

    “Did you listen to KFI @noon? Who is the rabbied psycho. Your calm sweet Kelly Thomas. I told you all suckers there was more to come.”

    “Kelly is a skitzo because all the drugs he took. He fried his brain”

    1) Question marks are our friends!
    2) Rabbied? I’ve heard of rabid, and rabbi, but I don’t think rabbied is a word. Spell check is our friend!
    3) I told you all suckers? So were you telling “you all,” or were you telling “suckers?” I am pretty sure “you all suckers” only works if you remove the “I told” part, and even then it sounds pretty ghettofabulous.
    4) Skitzo is not a word. I know this is a difficult concept, but not all words can be spelled phonetically! Hooked on phonics works wonders if you take the time to use it properly.

    Attention parents # 2: If you don’t instill morals in your children they will make themselves look like fools by insulting dead people, murder victims at that, in public.

    “Kelly is a skitzo because all the drugs he took. He fried his brain.” “Sorry was skitzo.” This also violates proper punctuation, but we’ll just focus on the lack of regard for the deceased for now.

    “I guess Kelly was bad. He lost at the end.”

    Yep. He “lost” a battle with six armed goons who beat, suffocated, and tased him to death while he was handcuffed and begging for his life.” But since all of those goons have either been fired or demoted, the incompetent chief quit, the incompetent councilmen were ousted, the Thomas family will have received millions of dollars at the taxpayers expense, and the city of Fullerton won’t rest until all of the thugs with badges are removed, I guess we can say that Kelly Thomas won.

    So the moral of our little story is, if you want your children to be able to write complete sentences and have an ounce of regard for human life, please make sure you don’t let them drop out of school to join a gang.

  26. Brandon :Attention parents: If you don’t make sure your children stay in school they’ll never learn to write!
    “Did you listen to KFI @noon? Who is the rabbied psycho. Your calm sweet Kelly Thomas. I told you all suckers there was more to come.”
    “Kelly is a skitzo because all the drugs he took. He fried his brain”
    1) Question marks are our friends!2) Rabbied? I’ve heard of rabid, and rabbi, but I don’t think rabbied is a word. Spell check is our friend!3) I told you all suckers? So were you telling “you all,” or were you telling “suckers?” I am pretty sure “you all suckers” only works if you remove the “I told” part, and even then it sounds pretty ghettofabulous.4) Skitzo is not a word. I know this is a difficult concept, but not all words can be spelled phonetically! Hooked on phonics works wonders if you take the time to use it properly.
    Attention parents # 2: If you don’t instill morals in your children they will make themselves look like fools by insulting dead people, murder victims at that, in public.
    “Kelly is a skitzo because all the drugs he took. He fried his brain.” “Sorry was skitzo.” This also violates proper punctuation, but we’ll just focus on the lack of regard for the deceased for now.
    “I guess Kelly was bad. He lost at the end.”
    Yep. He “lost” a battle with six armed goons who beat, suffocated, and tased him to death while he was handcuffed and begging for his life.” But since all of those goons have either been fired or demoted, the incompetent chief quit, the incompetent councilmen were ousted, the Thomas family will have received millions of dollars at the taxpayers expense, and the city of Fullerton won’t rest until all of the thugs with badges are removed, I guess we can say that Kelly Thomas won.
    So the moral of our little story is, if you want your children to be able to write complete sentences and have an ounce of regard for human life, please make sure you don’t let them drop out of school to join a gang.

    please tell me you have been sterilized. So Im in control of my 37 year old huh? What a complete bafoon. You sir/madam are an idiot. Kelly was murdered by cops, he had no drugs in his system, no alcohol either. The guilty here are THOSE 6 police officers.

  27. I have ZERO faith in this city, with the PAM kellers who get paid for , what Im not sure. WHY ARE WE paying PAM kILLERS WAGES, SHE IS A FLAT OUT TROLL AND BULLIES HER KID .

  28. “please tell me you have been sterilized. So Im in control of my 37 year old huh? What a complete bafoon. You sir/madam are an idiot. Kelly was murdered by cops, he had no drugs in his system, no alcohol either. The guilty here are THOSE 6 police officers.”

    Evidently there are illiterate people ready to make angry comments on both sides of the debate on justice for Kelly Thomas.

    1) Try reading and comprehending an entire post before you start attacking someone on what you think they are saying.

    2) You really should not insult people, especially on their intelligence, until you can spell simple words. “Bafoon?” I’m assuming you mean buffoon? One letter off and we’ll assume you made a typo. But two letters shows that you obviously should not be using the word in a sentence without practice. The red squiggly lines are out friends!

    3) Capitalization and punctuation are our friends!

    I’m sorry I’ve had to take over the role of grammar/spelling/punctuation police, but if I am going to read posts attacking Kelly Thomas, or in this case myself, I’m going to make damn sure I call out the attackers.

    1. Don’t listen to this fool John Doe. If all he has time to do is correct you grammar and spelling, he is a joke. How about answering some of the questions directed to you. No answer? I thought so.

  29. FPOA
    Keep Fullerton Police · 666 like this
    Yesterday at 12:47am ·
    Tonight was a sad day for Fullerton. The City Council voted 3-2 against hiring Dan Hughes as our permanent Chief of Police. 48 people from all over our community spoke in favor of Dan Hughes. 10 cop-haters spoke against him.

    And then Tony Bushala showed up after everyone had left and stared down Greg Sebourn, and swing vote Sebourn voted against Dan Hughes. This was after Sebourn had assured many people that if he could hire Dan Hughes tomorrow he would. Well, Sebourn has shown he is not a man of his word. Clearly, getting summoned to Bushala’s car after the Sheriff vote and getting yelled was too much for Sebourn.

    Sebourn voted with Kiger & Whitaker on this item.

    The biggest special interest in Fullerton is Tony Bushala. He commands three votes on that Council like the Godfather. If tonight didn’t convince this community that Kiger & Whitaker must be defeated, we’re not sure anything will.

    More to come.

    So a citizen that want open and transparent hiring of a new police chief is a cop hater?

    This is coming from the police union…

  30. @ Daniel K: First of all, I questioned Haller’s/John Doe’s morality as well as his/her inability to write. Second, if you think they can shed any light on the Thomas murder, you are the biggest fool of all. He/she is a family member of one of the FPD thugs who has tons of time and little regard for human life.

    1. Actually I am very informed and right in the middle of the meat of this case. And what I have read that Doe and Haller have written, it’s right on. I hate to disappoint you.

  31. @ Daniel McKee: You must not have read all of John Doe, Cold Cop, Haller, and the rest of the murderer supporters’ repeated claims that Wolfe would never get charged, the three accomplices would never face disciplinary action, the Feds left town long ago, etc., etc. If they had any actual pertinent information on the case they would not be on here making themselves look foolish with false claims, poor spelling/grammar and inane attempts to shift the blame to the victims.

    1. It’s all political like you well know. I thought it was going to be election year for T – Rack, but maybe next year. Anyway Susan Kang is calling the shots.

  32. SO Kelly died, that was sad, but dwelling on it is like picking at a scab– it’ll leave a scar and that is EXACTLY what you people are doing with Kelly Thomas. How can Fullerton recover when there is an entire group of people dedicated to running it into the ground? Travis Kiger and Tony Bushala have really created a monster. If you really wanted justice for Kelly why don’t you start an organization for the poor and mentally ill. Make his death not in vain, because as of now his death has only been in vain and been an excuse for EVERYTHING negative of Fullerton and its PD.

    1. Kelly Thomas didn’t die in vain. If people hadn’t caused an uproar it would have been swept under the carpet and it would just have been a tragic news blurb forgotten on the news. Kellys death has been nothing but positive change in Fullerton, the ousting of the rotten scabs of Bankhead and Jones for example and the prosecution of 3 bad cops. If you cant see that your truly blind> Kiger and Bushala created nothing, the people did. Now its time to keep a vigil eye on the new regime so that history doesn’t repeat itself.

      1. Thank the worthless supervisors that sold the three cops. Starting with Sellers and ending with Hughes. No balls! Look at Anaheim. Their chief didn’t fall for the radicals and media bullshit and the officers are back on the streets working like they should.

  33. “Someone has to rid of the scum of the world.”

    Although this sentence is a typical cop-produced sentence with missing words and bad syntax, the sentiments are true. Someone is getting rid of the scum of the world Daniel. We already got rid of Ramos, CeCe, Wolfe, Rincon, Jones, McKinley, Bankhead, and Sellers. More are on the way. Thanks for supporting us is this fight!!

  34. Daniel Kafee: ” I am very informed and right in the middle of the meat” Not sure how informed you are, but I do not doubt you’re in the middle of the meat. You should talk to JD about that. She once found herself in the middle of CeCe, Ramos, Wolfe, and Hampton’s meat, and polished them all off like the good little trooper she is.

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