Will We Get a Refund?


Item 7 on Tuesday’s City Council Agenda brings back a sore subject: paying back the water users who’ve been ripped off by years of an illegal 10% tax on their water bill.

Thanks to the previous council the plug was finally pulled on this scam last year. But that was then, and liberals Chaffee and Flory won’t want to give back anything that was pilfered from the taxpayers. So what a bout Jennifer Fitzgerald? She’s supposed to be a Republican, but in Fullerton that hasn’t meant much and she was a die-hard supporter of the Three Bald Tires.

7. WATER UTILITY OPERATIONS
Over the past two years, the City has conducted a review of its Water Utility operations in order to have a comprehensive overview of water utility infrastructure needs, rates and rate structures and define General Fund costs related to operations of the Water Fund.
Recommendation by the Engineering Department:
1. Determine the cost for services provided by the City to the Water Utility.
2. Establish the total amount of refund to be issued (following a cost for service determination).
3. Determine the timing of refunds (one-time or multi-year payments).
4. Establish an Appeals Board to address refund complaints and any other billing conflicts.
5. Authorize the mailing of the required Proposition 218 notice which begins the 45-day comment period related to the proposed “pass-through’ of water supply cost water rate increase.
6. Authorize the update of the July 2011 “Comprehensive Water Rate Study Report” which outlines the recommended infrastructure needs and funding plans.
7. Direct staff to make any necessary City financing processes to implement Council direction.

Here’s my prediction: just as in 2011, the “cost study” will be rigged to jack up the value of City services to the Water Fund to get as close to 10% as possible. Then there will be no need for a refund and no need for an apology for illegally swiping $27,000,000 to pay for their own perks and pensions.

Nice, huh?

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  1. #1 by Johnny Donut on February 16, 2013

    God dammit.

  2. #2 by Mr. Peabody on February 16, 2013

    JD, good to see you back.

    I loved the dim-witted Flory (is she really that dumb or just hopes we are?) last fall saying Fullerton didn’t have enough in reserves to pay a refund. How in the hell does she think that nine million got into the reserve fund in the first place? Right – thanks to the Wayer tax.

  3. #3 by JJ on February 16, 2013

    The city had to bond $7MM to pay settlements. Refunding the water tax would create a financial stress Fullerton cannot affford. TB wants to bankrupt Fullerton as a means to break police and fire contracts. While I support PERS reform for all government including Fullerton, bankruptcy is not the avenue to pursue. Use the tax refund as a means of rate stabilization.

  4. #4 by "Shawn Nelson Presents"... on February 16, 2013

    Shawn Nelson will also be presenting his plans @ 6:30 PM to install a permanant homeless shelter in Fullerton without our consent at Tuesday night’s City Council meeting.

  5. #5 by PJ on February 16, 2013

    The will drown us in paper and then pass the rate increase. The county is raising the sewer tax. If homeowners get mad and sell, the county and city get to raise the new owner’s property taxes, so cool for them!

    It’s all a scam to prop up the shaky system.

  6. #6 by simmons on February 16, 2013

    “Here’s my prediction: just as in 2011, the “cost study” will be rigged to jack up the value of City services to the Water Fund to get as close to 10% as possible.”

    They might try this but such does not pass the smell test and only highlights a lack of integrity.

    I would like to overbill my customers, and then, when they catch me, say, whoops, sorry, I simply made a billing error . . . I should have been charging more. You would have purchased the stuff from me anyway because you have to.

    Of course, in the real world, once a deal is done, one side can’t go back and say whoops, I should have charged you more.

  7. #7 by Hillslide homes creates financial avalanche! on February 16, 2013

    That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the $20-$25 million that the city of Fullerton is now on the hook for for de-stabilizing hillside homes north of Bastanchury and Euclid to make way for a bridal trail for horses.

    Where is that money coming from?

  8. #8 by City Council meeting on Tuesday... on February 16, 2013

    REGULAR BUSINESS (Items 6 through 8)

    6. POLICE OVERSIGHT PROPOSAL COMMITTEE PRESENTATION
    A presentation by an independent group named the Police Oversight Proposal Committee.

    Recommendation by Administration:
    Receive and file.

    I wonder which “circular file” that this proposal will be filed inside of?

  9. #9 by Mr. Peabody on February 16, 2013

    Oh, good.

  10. #10 by cg on February 16, 2013

    They only got 6 million, I think. That is part of the 7 million. Ms. Thomas got 1 million.

  11. #11 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 16, 2013

    This belongs in front of Fullertons City buildings, :)

    “…The 28-foot-high puppy has his leg lifted on the side of the museum…”
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dog-496103-museum-art.html?pic=2

  12. #12 by Peaches on February 16, 2013

    I like it, but it’s only there for a limited time :( -hmmm, perhaps it could become a permanent installation (that’s the proper term for public art) in Fullerton?

  13. #13 by Stanley Fiala on February 16, 2013

    Please be advised that, based on the unreliable Fullerton’s Government behavior, that if you receive any refund it my be a scam and it may contain a virus.

    Therefore, please forward your refund to me first and I will test it if it for clarity and reality in my bank account.

  14. #14 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 17, 2013

    Its gotta have a working fountain, in my opinion.

  15. #15 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    JJ :The city had to bond $7MM to pay settlements. Refunding the water tax would create a financial stress Fullerton cannot affford. TB wants to bankrupt Fullerton as a means to break police and fire contracts. While I support PERS reform for all government including Fullerton, bankruptcy is not the avenue to pursue. Use the tax refund as a means of rate stabilization.

    bankrupt this city…TONY? lmao, seriously these fucktards have been stealing for years…you think they arent carpet baggers- now that is funny.

  16. #16 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    “Shawn Nelson Presents”… :Shawn Nelson will also be presenting his plans @ 6:30 PM to install a permanant homeless shelter in Fullerton without our consent at Tuesday night’s City Council meeting.

    so is anyone going to citizen arreest SHAWN? He is a fuckin scumbag and should be treated accordinly- FUCK SHAWN NELSON- and anyone who supported this bigger than life sweaty piece of shit. Shawn- I will rig an election- Nelson. FUCK SHAWN NELSON, and twice on Tuesday.

  17. #17 by van get it da artiste on February 17, 2013

    The municipal government has proven to its populace that it does not represent the interests of Fullerton’s community.
    From the FFFF blogsite, documents show it is Fullerton’s municipal employees have been gouging the community with illegal water taxes.
    Fullerton is “Main Street” that must make an example of corrupt government by severing contracts formed from theft of money from Fullerton’s community.

  18. #18 by Who Cares on February 17, 2013

    I wonder which is the bigger scam, moving the money around for other uses, or a refund. Neither one fixes the crumbling water infrastructure.

  19. #19 by County Clerk on February 17, 2013

    The tax was never meant for infrastructure. That’s part of the basic rate. Stop diverting attention.

  20. #20 by Jim Medici on February 17, 2013

    I have been fighting the high water bills for 5 years now and i still can’t get an honest answer. I have made comments at the city council and water committe meetings and have simply asked that the city present a real cost of water services and leave out all the rental/leasing of already owned city property. The 10% is nothing compared to the inflated cost of real water services. Will somebody on the council please bring out the truth.

  21. #21 by Who Cares on February 17, 2013

    Yeah who wants a functional working water system.

  22. #22 by County Clerk on February 17, 2013

    Still doing it.

  23. #23 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 17, 2013

    Road repair is a life and death issue, with serious liability issues, that money went to things that the water money went to also. And is probably a major factor in the cities credit downgrade by a generous Standard and Poors.

  24. #24 by Jurnalist on February 19, 2013

    water issues- are big money- no one wants to loose their junkets to those water meeting in LA at those cozy hotels, where you can pin a 34 dollar of wine on the rate payer….and buy 18 of them and have your palsover for dinner at the rate payers expense—
    Of course we need roads, and a sewer system, but hell we are talking wine for the Bankheads- people they are suffering- get them more wine!!!

  25. #25 by Shawn Nelson's political future.. on February 20, 2013

    he has no future in poltics,somebody get this guy some moving boxes.

  26. #26 by Fullerton's Savagely Distended Rectum on February 24, 2013

    Jurnalist, you’re the fucking retard.

  27. #27 by 1 hoo knows on February 25, 2013

    Fullerton’s Savagely Distended Rectum :Jurnalist, you’re the fucking retard.

    lol. Love you too.

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