New Centurions Watching All Our Backs?


Those army boots look a little soiled. Let me at 'em!

Those army boots look a little soiled. Let me at ‘em!

“New centurions watching all our backs.”

Thus spake David Whiting of the OC Register in another of his breathtakingly sycophantic ride along reports, this time with some Anaheim cops the other night. He writes about their heroics, here.

Good Lord! Whiting dons body armor! Almost a Hero himself as he chronicles the travails of folks who now could be the targets of violent crime themselves.

Of course it’s easy to mock this “journalistic” rubbish for what it is. It’s especially fun given the history of the bootlick Whiting and the Culture of Corruption in the wake of the Kelly Thomas murder. Remember this? Or this? Or this? Or this? And of course, the worst bullshit of all, here.

The reference to the cops as Roman soldiers is just hilarious; but it’s more telling than a dated reference to a Joseph Wambaugh novel, as Whiting innocently supposes in his hermetically sealed, irony-free hyperbaric chamber.

The militarization of the cops is precisely the problem that created people like Chris Dorner and Jay Cicinelli and that puts us citizens at risk from violent cops each and every day.

And recalling the activities of the cops in Anaheim and Fullerton last summer I think a reference to The New Praetorian Guard is much more apt.

In any case, why-o-why can’t the people who run the Register get it? Being little else than a pro-cop propaganda outlet is no way to run a real newspaper.

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  1. #1 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

    Loved his misquote used several times: “The manifesto believed to be written by Christopher Dorner cites Latinos and Asians as ‘high targets.’ ”

    No, that’s not what it says. It says cops are high value targets. It goes on to name several different races, all in the context of being cops who tolerate racism and corruption.

    Way to bend the truth to turn the guy into a racist, Whiting. I think he’s done enough to earn public scorn. No need to lie.

    • #2 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

      What is in a name? Whiting-A pure white grade of chalk that has been ground and washed for use in paints, ink, and putty.
      There you have it-what a tool.

    • #3 by W.Burroughs on February 12, 2013

      Seriously, Whiting needs to stop taking all those opiates he’s constantly demonizing.

      • #4 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

        Does he have Vatican connections?

      • #5 by cg on February 12, 2013

        The point is, do we really care what he writes? I canceled oc register, So, I would not know what he spewed out. And as a Fullerton resident, I don;t care, what he has to write.

  2. #6 by van get it da artiste on February 12, 2013

    thanks for refreshing the memories of the good people of fullerton.
    I notice “news reporter” Whiting fails to mention the background to the Dorner story, though other media sources have details upon details that show Dorner’s motive for murder is revenge upon LAPD for possible his unfair termination from the LAPD.
    Where is the significance of Whiting’s “Dear Diary” entry / news article about his ride-a-long with Anaheim PD. what insight was the public supposed to gain from Whiting’s experience?
    Whiting’s “news” articles is merely him preening in front of the power structure as he defines it.
    Silly whiting doesn’t realize, yet, the power is with the people who read this and other like-minded blogs

    • #7 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

      There is NO motive for these murders. Dorner is a coward shooting two unarmed innocent people and gunning down a police officer. You people here are so stupid that you don’t know a manic coward from your asshole. Dorner had his day in court (many as a matter of fact) he lost. He is a loser in life and snapped. It is NOT the fault of the LAPD, his high school teacher, or his mommy. His actions are his own and murder like this is never justifiable.

      • #8 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

        You mean moral justification, not motive.

        There is clearly a motive.

      • #9 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

        “There is NO motive for these murders”……….. Hmmmmm

        Dorner declared asymmetrical war, therefore, so called murders are simply collateral damage.

        Every war creates innocent victims.

        How many innocent children, women and men the USA killed in their wars?

        Do the survivalist of these atrocities have right to retaliate as in 911?

        Think before you utter the crapola.

        • #10 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

          I should add that you must exclude Dorner as some serial killer who kills for a sexual pleasure!

          Robin-hood killed innocent too!

          • #11 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

            So did Menachem Begin!

            • #12 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

              So did your leftist fuzzball Obama with his “drones”.

              • #13 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

                And we shouldn’t discriminate against Latinos an include Pancho Villa, Emiliano Zapata Salazar and Zorro.

                • #14 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

                  However, as reported, by the media, Dorner is in his Bonnie and Clyde déjà vu shootout now and soon songwriters will start composing.

          • #15 by LeRoy Murray on February 12, 2013

            if you mean the 12th century outlaw Robin Hood, I’ve read most, if not all, the storys and don’t remember any innocent collateral damage, as they call it today, like the newspaper carriers and pick up driver in Torrance. Robin Hood who in some of the original stories (not movies or TV) was a yeoman or commoner and later was a Nobleman, never killed anyone but those who did evil to innocents, like the Sheriff and his minions.

            • #16 by Stanley Fiala on February 13, 2013

              You will be surprised to learn the truth. Every country has its Robin Hood. The Czechs have Jan Hus and his movement called Husits which was first socialistic movement in the Europe in 13 century from which the protestants arise. The military leader was Jan Ziska.

              I was educated in communist era 1952-1966 where communists rewrote the history and portrayed Husits as the freedom fighting angels in the Europe until I recently learn the truth about their evil and massacres.

              I was shocked.

              So you want to tel me that when a rich family traveled via the black forest controlled by Robin Hood that they gave up their positions and were not killed?… including the innocent servants who traveled alone?

              If you do than you are naive.

            • #17 by Disgusted on February 13, 2013

              LeRoy, please don’t feed the trolls.

        • #18 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

          Hmmmm….Stanley you are a complete idiot. Too bad Dorner isn’t gunning for you.

        • #21 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

          “Dorner declared asymmetrical war”……… Hmmmmm

          Another COP dead!

          I think that Dorner should be nominated for the USA minister of Defense/ War.

          • #22 by Anonymous on February 14, 2013

            I think you should go to hell you stupid bag of shit!

  3. #23 by Fullerton Lover on February 12, 2013

    David “The Whitewasher” Whiting’s picture should appear if you Google the word “obtuse” and left-click “images”.

  4. #24 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

    Seriously. Have any of you had an personal bad experiences with a cop? Your level of disdain for the police is disturbing. You read or hear something in the news and next you think is all cops are corrupt. How ignorant can you people be. I’m sure whatever profession you’re in has people who have done bad things. Does that make you bad? Please remember, you cant believe everything you read inert the paper and you especially can’t believe everything dorner is saying. If you do then you are more gullible than manti te ‘o.

    • #25 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

      This post is about Whiting. Not cops.

      We’ve had loads of bad experiences with Whiting.

    • #26 by Fred Alcazar on February 12, 2013

      “I’m sure whatever profession you’re in has people who have done bad things.”

      Nobody’s ever got beat to death or shot in the back by a “bad” donut maker or an evil department store clerk in the course of doing their jobs. No one has ever been unfairly put on trial for their freedom from a malevolent insurance salesman doing his job.

      Stop resisting, stop resisting!!!!

      LOL Hahahaha!

    • #27 by Shimon Mendel on February 13, 2013

      Dear Reasonable – You’ve got to remember a lot of the people who post here fancy themselves as libertarians. Cops are mainly extension of intrusive govt. But, to answer your question — yeah, I’ve had bad experiences with cops, so has my wife. Thank God it’s only been by motor cops with attitude issues and not anything serious. But, on the other side I was stopped by CHP on the Grapevine back in 1980 and he completely ignored the strong smell of pot in the car and just gave me a speeding ticket, and I was on my way.

  5. #28 by Dan F. on February 12, 2013

    Reasonable Person:
    “I’m sure whatever profession you’re in has people who have done bad things. Does that make you bad?”

    What??? Your comparing a person that works in a factory or in a office …..etc to a COP, a person that is entrusted to uphold the law??
    Give me a break!

    Reasonable Person:”How ignorant can you people be.”

    Well that’s the pot calling the kettle black.

    How about you change your title name to….”IGNORANTLY BLISS PERSON” instead.

  6. #29 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

    You people are so narrow minded. You see everything in black and white. I’m pretty sure doughnut makers, insurance salesmen, and office workers are not faced with violence on a daily basis. Its all relative.

    • #30 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

      doughnut makers don’t deal with violence on a daily basis? Have you not SEEN Barry Coffman eat a jelly donut?

      • #31 by LeRoy Murray on February 12, 2013

        Neither do most cops. Last I checked, it’s not even in the 10 most dangerous jobs.

        1. Logger

        2. Pilot

        3. Fisher

        4. Iron/Steel Worker

        5. Garbage Collector

        6. Farmer/Rancher

        7. Roofer

        8. Electrical Power Installer/Repairer

        9. Sales, Delivery, and Other Truck Driver

        10. Taxi Driver/Chauffeur

        • #32 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

          I guess if its not on this list then its not dangerous. Get a clue. How stupid can people get. Its scary.

          • #33 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 12, 2013

            The most dangerous thing to them is their trigger finger pointing their own gun and at themselves with shooting.

            Their driving is more dangerous to them than all criminals.

          • #34 by Anonymous on February 13, 2013

            I guess if the data doesn’t back it up, call people names.

          • #35 by LeRoy Murray on February 13, 2013

            Thanks for your “opinion” Officer. But the list is compiled by the US Bureau of Labor.
            From Forbes: “In 2009, the most recent year for which we have statistics, 101 miners and 97 police officers and security guards died on the job, making for a roughly similar fatality rate of around 13 deaths per 100,000 workers.” Keep in mind that the majority of Police deaths were from auto accidents…

        • #36 by Anonymous on February 13, 2013

          They must be talking about private pilots only

      • #37 by Shimon Mendel on February 13, 2013

        Anon – Perhaps you should amend your posting to say –… have the potential for dealing with violence…

    • #38 by Peaches on February 12, 2013

      as to doughnut makers – doughnut stores have been robbed; as to office workers – violence has occurred in office workplaces (and probably ditto for insurance salesmen)

      • #39 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

        Look at the statistics peaches. Very weak point.

        • #40 by Peaches on February 13, 2013

          violence is violence – daily or otherwise…

  7. #41 by Jane H on February 12, 2013

    Didn’t Whiting win a Fringie award?

  8. #43 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 12, 2013

    Anonymous :
    doughnut makers don’t deal with violence on a daily basis? Have you not SEEN Barry Coffman eat a jelly donut?

    +++++++++++++++++
    OHHH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!

  9. #45 by Dorner shootout: 'Hundreds of rounds' fired during gun battle on February 12, 2013

    • #46 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

      Hundreds of rounds do not sound like the audio KCAL gave us. Automatic weapons do not sound like that. Are they kidding?

  10. #47 by streetwise on February 12, 2013

    Latest Dorner sighting.

    http://i.imm.io/W1mG.png

  11. #48 by streetwise on February 12, 2013

    car stollen by suspect looking like Dorner just down the street from downtown Big Bear ski resort. How did the police miss him in the search? http://i.imm.io/W1pu.png

    • #49 by streetwise on February 12, 2013

      holed up at 40512 seven oaks rd. big bear ca http://i.imm.io/W1E8.png backside rd. on the way to forest falls. Dorner was holding hostages right under the nose officers in bigbear.

      • #50 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

        CNN cuts live feed why?

        • #51 by Christopher Dorner shootout: Ex-cop may be watching news, police say on February 12, 2013

          • #52 by LIVE on February 12, 2013

          • #53 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

            What a load of crap- they could just cut the power off to the house with the smart meter-they are still narrating but just backed off the cameras-there is more to this than meets the eye.

        • #54 by Anonymous on February 12, 2013

          Fire started from tear gas. Cnn live talking live to Chief Bratton.One officer died from firefight ealier at the cabin.

        • #55 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

          Because the idiot might have a Tv plus your probably to sensitive to see real violence.

          • #56 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

            Looks like Dorner didn’t need to have a T.V. since the police command post where they were giving the news briefs to the media was less than a 100 yards from the cabin Dorner was occupying throughout the weekend.

            • #57 by truthseeker on February 13, 2013

              And they didn’t even search that home!!! Kcal 9 interviewed a resident of the building and NO ONE searched it. Also the supposedly the charred remains of him were found in the home that was burned to the ground but miraculously the wallet and drivers license survived the Waco style inferno. It reminds me of 911 when the hijackers’ passports were, against all odds, found in the rubble of the World Trade Center even though the black boxes were not and we were told that the burning kerosene in my tiki torch in the aluminum pot, ahhm I mean the burning jet fuel supposedly melted the steel and pulverized the concrete. What kind of material do they make drivers licenses, passports and wallets out of these days? What was going on in Washington DC last night? I wonder. What magnificent piece of legislation did the President sign yesterday?

  12. #58 by nipsey on February 12, 2013

    “In any case, why-o-why can’t the people who run the Register get it? Being little else than a pro-cop propaganda outlet is no way to run a real newspaper.”

    As if the Register had any ambitions of being a real newspaper..

    • #59 by Stanley Fiala on February 12, 2013

      “As if the Register had any ambitions of being a real newspaper”……… Hmmmmmm

      Only if the owners would be independently wealthy and would not rely on the public sector unions to support them.

      Most of the wealthy media players are leftists so there are no real newspapers like the leftist “LA TIMES” anyway.

  13. #60 by Daniel Ciello on February 12, 2013

    Nipsey, I completely agree with you. I can’t see these guys ever breaking a good story, creating positive change with journalism. This is all OC la-la land shit, don’t want to upset the suburbanites.

    • #61 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

      Move if you don’t like it in orange county.

      • #62 by Daniel Ciello on February 12, 2013

        Pretty unreasonable for a “reasonable person.” It’s more like a love-hate relationship.

  14. #63 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

    I didn’t know moving was so unreasonable. People do it every day.

  15. #64 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

    Plus the part of OC you love is how safe it is I imagine. You can thank the police for that.

    • #65 by Mr. Peabody on February 12, 2013

      It wasn’t safe safe for Kelly Thomas or Veth mam or Edward Quinonez, now was it?

      • #66 by HUH? on February 13, 2013

        As many contact the officers have every single day, you are up in arms about three incidents. Get a life.

        • #67 by truthseeker on February 13, 2013

          When one is given six figures, a seven figure pension, arrest powers, a sidearm, and a sub machine gun all bought and paid for with our money to protect us-three incidents is three too many. As we saw yesterday the balance of power hangs in the balance. Teeter it the wrong way and the outcome is always a disaster.

        • #68 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

          As many miles as I put on my car every day, and your going to arrest me for manslaughter for running over one skinny homeless person?

          I think you get my drift.

    • #69 by cg on February 12, 2013

      Safe, you must not live in Fullerton..Have you been in down town Fullerton on Thrusday thru Saturday? If not, take a look, Yes police have their hands full, then top if off with the overwhelming homeless coming in. It seems everyone sees it, but you. GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND GO SEE FOR YOURSELF…..And if you do live in Fullerton, get off the ficken hill and come to the flat lands.

      • #70 by reasonable person on February 12, 2013

        I thought everyone on this blog loved the homeless. Believe it or not, its safer than most counties. Maybe you should get off your butt and do a little traveling. And for Mr peebody, its safe for the good people.

        • #71 by cg on February 12, 2013

          Well, that confirms it. You are just another useless blogger, cheetos and a bean bag. Go blog somewhere your comments can be appreciated. Orange Juice blog comes to mind. Greg loves your kind.

    • #72 by Daniel Ciello on February 13, 2013

      Dude, not everybody on this blog is a cop hater. You should be careful with your assumptions. I’m from Chicago, you don’t need to sell public safety to me.

    • #73 by Daniel Ciello on February 13, 2013

      Reasonable person, wrong. Safety is important but it’s not a deal breaker. If you want a pat on the head, I’m sure Jan Flory will give you one.

  16. #74 by van get it da artiste on February 12, 2013

    “And recalling the activities of the cops in Anaheim and Fullerton last summer I think a reference to The New Praetorian Guard is much more apt.”
    The sad morphing of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire happened when power became increasingly concentrated into the hands of a select few. why does federal and state government come to mind?
    Maybe there is a positive correlation between legislators at the state and federal level passing too many, frivolous laws, statutes(nanny state) and the enforcement of these laws upon the populace resulting in local police forces increasing their power and influence to the detriment of the populace as defined within our Constitution.

    • #75 by truthseeker on February 12, 2013

      —and thus the only remaining restrainer is the second ammendment and it looks like it is going to take another hit after this tragedy. The INTENTIONAL DESTRUCTION OF MORALITY in this nation by the media, the educational system, the film and music industry and all the phony churches at the behest of the government with the assistance of the tyranny from the bench has left the masses as an immoral people. Our Constitution is wholly inadequate to govern an immoral people. We are no longer worthy of the rights bestowed upon us by those who bled to death barefoot in the snow so your kids can play little league and eat an apple pie with grandma. Thus the tyranny encroaches all the more as rights are made illegal and given back with revocable licenses. Our infrastructure crumbles but you didn’t see any antiquated law enforcement equipment today. They have all the latest and greatest. I wish I could say the same for my kids’ schools in Fullerton with the fluorescent lights hung from the asbestos tile ceiling with the lead flux greening up the drinking fountains, the jacked up asphalt on the playground just waiting to take a few layers of skin off the knees and 35 kids in rooms built for 20. Oh the roads, the pipes, the graffitti, the rent, oh the humanity. Never fear as the bread and circus now has 300 channels replete with mindless bullshit sports diversions, voodoo booze commercials and all the filth that will satisfy the degenerates darkest desire. It is bad day for this country when “running man” overtook the “state of the union” on the networks. Is there anything sacred anymore?

      • #76 by cg on February 12, 2013

        Truth: long ago “80′s’ my husband and I decided to put our kids in Eastside. Best decision we ever made. Then to Troy Tech. Can I say the Best. I will say that both of my girls, with cal poly pomana, are very successful. We were very lucky.

  17. #77 by Fugitive ex-LAPD cop's body recovered from burned cabin on February 12, 2013

  18. #78 by LAPD HAS NOT CONFIRMED OR MADE ANY STATEMENTS REGARDING A BODY BEING LOCATED, REMOVED OR IDENTIFIED FROM THE LOCATION IN SAN BERNARDINO on February 12, 2013

    • #79 by cg on February 12, 2013

      And your point is? What he’s dead. We know. Watch the news.

  19. #80 by Anonymous on February 13, 2013

    The reputation of the “Peace officer” was destroyed by decades of Police Corruption and Brutality.

    Car Salesmen used to be the low of the low, like Lawyers. Now the Police are the bottom dwellers and they have only themselves to thank.

    • #81 by truthseeker on February 13, 2013

      I by no means condone the ruthless murders of those innocent people by Dorner. However the media blackout in my opinion was so that the police officers could carry out what clearly appears to be a pre-planned summary execution, on top of their frenzied random shooting sprees of innocent people over the last few days. This is a frightening glimpse into a fast-approaching police state where authorities dish out instant Judge Dredd-style justice by killing Americans accused of crimes and denying them a fair trial. The preemption of the State of The Union by the “running man” episode where the internet’s future is on the altar speaks volumes about where we are heading as a Nation.

  20. #82 by PittBull on February 13, 2013

    The OC Register really promotes a ‘police state’. If Sandra Hutchens or any of the other Top Cops in OC made a sudden stop it would take a major surgical operation to extract David Whiting’s nose. I thought that new owner at the Register wanted to change things and increase subscriptions. When people see Whiting write this defecation it just turns them off and they drop their subscriptions like the folks in Russia did with Pravda years ago under Communism. But it’s funny how things change. Today Pravda is more transparent than an US paper, to include the OC Register. Go to their website if you don’t believe me. You will learn more about your country from them than from any US publication, with the exception of Rolling Stone Magazine. We have really evolved into a scum bucket. So it’s not just your city, Fullertonians. It’s all of us.

    • #83 by truthseeker on February 13, 2013

      Just like RT as opposed to CNN or FOX or ABC or CBS or any other GE or Disney subsidiary

      • #84 by PittBull on February 13, 2013

        I get more useful and relevant information about my country from RT than from any of the US newsites you listed or from the OC Register.

        All are arms of the government today.

        RC Hoiles must be spitting in his grave.

        • #85 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

          Looks interesting Pit Bull. Thanks for sharing.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Today

        • #86 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

          Looks interesting Pit Bull. Thanks for sharing.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Today

        • #87 by Burt Pulitzer on February 13, 2013

          RC Hoiles is in hell.

          • #88 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

            For the record, I believe that Raymond C Hoiles associated himself with “Voluntaryism”, which is of an offshoot of the “Leveller” movement that has it’s origin in England in the 15th or 16th century.

            Let’s just say that the Voluntaryism movement was not a proponent of the public school system, which made individuals like Mr. Hoiles a frequent target of the teachers and public employee unions.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism

        • #89 by truthseeker on February 13, 2013

          RT is definitely the real deal.

    • #90 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

      Did you ever notice that the biggest bootlickers and buttlickers of the world all look like they were heavily bullied in their childhood?

      Rick Alvarez and Doug Chaffee come to mind at our City Councilman level, and David Whiting and Lou Ponsi come to mind at a local journalistic level.

  21. #91 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 13, 2013

    You need the proper terminology,
    Ballwasher, is a authority sniffer or muncher.

    Reuters is liberal, biased to liberal ways.

    Follow the money, SORRY but it all goes to Private Labor Unions and their history evolving into Public Union money, the biggest cities are liberal playgrounds that have taken Union and Organized Crime monies to control US Politics the White House, government, News Media and your economy.

    Obama was a Harvard Constitutional Law Professor.

    Politics is a lot more understandable when you realize they act in total opposite of what is conveyed by them. ( “FAT CATS” also, equals biggest contributors of Obama in 2008)

    • #92 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 13, 2013

      I sense its the long evolution of Organized Crime.

      As in “Fullertons Mafia dress like Fullerton Police Department”

      • #93 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 13, 2013

        Not really criminal but still EVIL.

        • #94 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 13, 2013

          The recalled Council in Fullerton called themselves Republican Party, they did big government liberal supported stuff, exclusively.

          • #95 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 13, 2013

            The world is Satan’s domain, the heavens are not. Cooperation and understanding is what Space and Antarctica are suppose to represent!

    • #96 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2013

      Agreed. Sounds sort of nasty and it’s acceptable language at the same time…

      Ball Washer:

      A euphemism for a person that goes above and beyond to satisfy an authoritative figure

      “Andrew is a ball washer for cleaning the Chief’s overhead projector to a sheen with a chamois cloth”.

  22. #97 by Stanley Fiala on February 13, 2013

    Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
    H. L. Mencken

    The normal man, Christopher Dorner, lived his temptation.

  23. #98 by streetbeat on February 14, 2013

    By burning Dorner alive, then misleading and deceiving the public about the operation, the sheriffs may have validated the rogue ex-cop’s sharpest indictments of the culture of American law enforcement.

  24. #99 by streetbeat on February 14, 2013

  25. #100 by streetbeat on February 14, 2013

    Sister’s persistence leads to murder charges

    Every so often for more than 30 years, Tessanne contacted Fullerton police and asked if there was any new information on a 1982 missing person case.

    after 31 years, the truth finally comes out

    DNA tests conducted by the Orange County crime lab revealed that a partial skull found by hikers in 1985 near Big Bear has been identified as belonging to Frank Bartlett Marshall

    Those remains went unidentified for 30 years – until Fullerton police asked the Orange County Sheriff’s Department Crime Lab to compare the DNA with Marshall.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/marshall-495651-fullerton-case.html

    • #101 by Hmm on February 14, 2013

      Hmm..Who’s the hero in this story? I hope the department won’t take credit for this one…

      • #102 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2013

        From Ron Thomas….

        Again, this is another example where as in my son’s murder by the FPD things got done and changes were implemented NOT because of the great professional police work by the FPD, but because of family members (and the public in Kelly’s case) demanding that the FPD do their job. I’m glad for the family, but what I see is that the FPD will never change.

        • #103 by HUH? on February 14, 2013

          Hey Ron, dont be mad. I heard you lost your civil suit with the city?

  26. #104 by Jurnalist on February 14, 2013

    Anonymous :There is NO motive for these murders. Dorner is a coward shooting two unarmed innocent people and gunning down a police officer. You people here are so stupid that you don’t know a manic coward from your asshole. Dorner had his day in court (many as a matter of fact) he lost. He is a loser in life and snapped. It is NOT the fault of the LAPD, his high school teacher, or his mommy. His actions are his own and murder like this is never justifiable.

    but if he had a badge on currently…20 bux says justified homicide….fucking vadge, I mean badge wearers…such pussies.

    • #105 by Who's a Pussy? on February 14, 2013

      Juralist, name ONE brave thing that you’ve ever done in your entire life. Just ONE.

  27. #106 by Talk of the Town: Mayor for a day on February 14, 2013

    If you were offered the job of being mayor of Fullerton for just a day, what would you do? What would you change?

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/fullerton-495746-mayor-bacon.html

    • #107 by truthseeker on February 14, 2013

      – Pam Keller, 50, Fullerton, executive director of the Fullerton Collaborative
      “I’m no expert in politics, but I’m an expert in food. If I were the mayor of Fullerton, I would make it mandatory for every restaurant to put bacon on their burgers. I love bacon on anything, but I love bacon cheeseburgers. I would make it mandatory in honor of the mayor, just for that week.”

      There you have it

      • #108 by Pam Keller loves bacon on February 14, 2013

      • #110 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2013

        In all fairness, I think that this quote was attributed to Miss Fullerton 2012.

        I believe that Pam Keller’s quote was the one above it regarding the homeless shelter’s compatability in a neighborhood that’s not hers.

        • #111 by truthseeker on February 14, 2013

          Thank you FL. That is a relief.

          • #112 by truthseeker on February 14, 2013

            “I’m no expert in politics, but I’m an expert in food. If I were the mayor of Fullerton, I would make it mandatory for every restaurant to put bacon on their burgers. I love bacon on anything, but I love bacon cheeseburgers. I would make it mandatory in honor of the mayor, just for that week.”

            – Leah Cecil, 22, Fullerton, Miss California 2012

            There you have it-now you know why the elections go the way they do

            • #113 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2013

              The dark irony of her last remark from her pre-interview response as a Miss California contestant should escape no one.

              Seems to me that the message that we’re inadvertently sending to our youth by crowning beauty over brains is wrong on a couple of different levels

              Leah Cecil won the title of Miss California on June 30, 2012, when she received her crown from outgoing titleholder Noelle Freeman.

              She was later made an internet icon with her answer to the Miss America pre-interview questions. When asked “What are you’re feelings on euthanasia becoming legalized?”

              Leah Cecil gave a typical “Pageant queen” answer. ..

              “You know that’s actually one thing that I’m not very educated on, so I need to look up on exactly what that means. But I do know it’s a vaccine… correct”

              She is now being criticized for inventing a new vaccine:

              Euthanasia.

              • #114 by truthseeker on February 14, 2013

                Did she go to school in Fullerton? If so we must thank the Fullerton School District for her incredible cerebral capacity as a result of the years of teaching to the test to push to get those test scores up and making critical thinking obsolete. God help us.

  28. #115 by Daniel Ciello on February 14, 2013

    I’d move everything from the Slidebar and hold court at The Summit House.

  29. #116 by Mr. California on February 14, 2013

    What a laugh. With all of your collective brain power you failed at reforming the FPD (OCSD bid, outside Chief search, firing of “the other three.”)

    Perhaps y’all are overthinking this, turn it over to the younger generation before your heads explode.

    • #117 by truthseeker on February 14, 2013

      Mr California perhaps chelation therapy may do you some good.

      I noticed that the public employee unions always keep hold on the reins. I will tell you how and why. Here is the how. The masses, at the behest of the public employee union run school districts, are from birth all the way through adolescence forcibly vaccinated under color of law (enforced by the public employee union social service agencies) with upwards of 40 different injections with toxic IQ lowering compounds. The public employee union run water entities of the municipalities under the guise of fluoridation, adds a myriad of toxic IQ reducing compounds to the water supply which ends up in the booze, the diet coke and the food supply. The media that is in bed with the public employee union law enforcement agencies and the eugenics arms of the government skillfully and meticulously craft the bootlicking propaganda and adjusts the flicker rate so that it appeals to the masses and is swallowed hook line and sinker. The public employee union run colleges and universities ice the cake with the core curriculum that runs an undercurrent which brainwashes, confuses and balkanizes. The public employee union run government’s immense taxation power keeps the masses on the treadmill so cerebral function remains impaired due to lack of oxygen. This all works synergistically to create a Pavlovian Stockholm Syndrome electorate that only knows how to to take tests and respond in a manner conducive to being rewarded with praise by their captors and to acquire something for nothing by pushing a lever. Then all it takes is a few good lies and some grease from the Tommy’s truck, some blue t shirts, a bong presentation and before you know it, the murderers and the economic vampires are the heroes and the critics are the problem. Why do they do it? So their kids can get a job doing the exact same things. What a concept.

      • #118 by Mr. California on February 14, 2013

        That’s funny, Truthseeker. I think psychotherapy is more in order-for all of us.

      • #119 by Anonymous on February 14, 2013

        Troll alert!

        • #120 by Mr. California on February 14, 2013

          Who? Me? Troll?

          • #121 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 14, 2013

            Confirmed!!!!

            • #122 by Mr. California on February 14, 2013

              FYI, calling someone a Troll on this site is like issuing speeding tickets at the Indy 500! I think that’s how Martin Sheen put it in Apocalypse Now.

              • #123 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 15, 2013

                These trolls are DANGEROUS, there are laws here.

              • #124 by charlie schheen on February 15, 2013

                WINNING!

  30. #125 by Transient Problem on February 14, 2013

    2/6 Transient Problem – A caller heard a man and woman having sex in a tent at a homeless camp set up on the 400 block of W. Wilshire Avenue at 4 p.m. The caller was concerned because children were playing baseball nearby. Police arrived and had a talk with the couple.

    2/7 Transient Problem – A man says a 6’ bearded white man wrapped in a blanket exposed himself to him and his 6-year-old daughter on 200 N. Harbor Blvd., then urinated on a wall at 1:20 p.m.

    http://www.fullertonstories.com/news/crime-log/-police-log-feb-3-feb-10-2013

    • #126 by John Ehrlichman on February 14, 2013

      …and everybody is against a homeless shelter. LOL!

      • #127 by Mr. Peabody on February 15, 2013

        Yeah let’s warehouse all the pervs in a homeless shelter next to a bunch of houses and a school. Good thinking.

      • #128 by karma on February 15, 2013

        damn straight, talk about ramrodding. I for one am pissed as hell about this “shelter”.

        In my opinion, The city of fullerton is seriously screwed up beyond repair. We have serious problems and the city wants to act like it doesn’t., they are too busy taking advantage of every resident and having people like Whiting and Ponsi spew lies to the ignorant public. It is really sick and sad.

        After living 54 years here……We are selling our home and getting out of Fullerton before the property values drop more. We will be staying in OC, just never in Fullerton again.

    • #129 by More Problems than That on February 14, 2013

      2/5 Transient Problem – A caller says a man with a beard continues to beg people for money while he stands in the middle of traffic on S. Brookhurst Road and Orangethorpe Avenue at 2:44 p.m.

      2/6 Transient Problem – A caller heard a man and woman having sex in a tent at a homeless camp set up on the 400 block of W. Wilshire Avenue at 4 p.m. The caller was concerned because children were playing baseball nearby. Police arrived and had a talk with the couple.

      2/6 Transient Problem – A caller told police a man got angry when he was asked to leave while his friend set up camp on the 100 block of W. Wilshire Avenue at 3:15 p.m.

      2/6 Transient Problem – A caller wants an Asian woman moved from the alley on the 500 block of W. Commonwealth Avenue who doesn’t have permission to be there at 11:59 a.m.

      2/6 Transient Problem – A caller asked that police move along transients who set up camp with a tarp on the horse trails off 2525 Brea Blvd. Police arrived and found the tarp, but no people, so told the caller to report it again later if they wanted them to check again.

      2/7 Transient Problem – A man says four transients asked him for money when he walked into the hunt Branch Library. He asked an officer to talk to them.

      2/7 Transient Problem – A man says a 6’ bearded white man wrapped in a blanket exposed himself to him and his 6-year-old daughter on 200 N. Harbor Blvd., then urinated on a wall at 1:20 p.m.

      2/7 Transient Problem – A caller says a man in a wheel chair continues to cause problems at the Armory on 400 S. Brookhurst Road, and would like a Delta officer to talk to him.

      2/7 Man Down – A caller is trying to help a man who is passed out in the planters near the Bank of America on 401 N. Harbor Blvd. at 1 p.m.

      2/8 Transient – A caller says a man was screaming before he passed out on 255 W. Orangethorpe Avenue at 6:27 p.m. The caller doesn’t want police to move him along, but would like an officer to see if he is okay.

      2/8 Transient Problem – A woman with two kids is asking for money on 1107 S. Harbor Blvd. at 4:16 p.m.

      2/8 Welfare Check – A transient man was found lying next to his wheel chair at the Department of Motor Vehicles on 1824 W. Valencia Drive at 3:19 p.m. A caller believed he was sick. Officers and fire crews turned him over to members of the Orange County P.E.T Team, who took custody of the man.

      2/9 Transient Problem – A man is blocking access to the entrance to the train station on 120 E. Santa Fe Ave. at 6:18 a.m.

      2/9 Transient Problem – A man is sleeping inside the Fed Ex office on 444 N. Harbor Blvd. at 5:01 a.m.

      2/11 Other – Police were asked to clean up human waste from the front of the Promenade Market on Wilshire Avenue at 3:09 p.m. The task was handed over the city maintenance.

      • #130 by John Ehrlichman on February 14, 2013

        I’m trying to understand your point… Should we round them up and put them in camps? You’re great at problem identification, but you haven’t thrown anything out there to solve anything, so forgive me for be a bit of a dolt.

        • #131 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2013

          The homeless were already being “rounded up” and dumped in Fullerton from surrounding cities as far back as 2001.

          Now the County of Orange plans on repeating the cycle on the east side of Fullerton.

          Why is it always Fullerton that’s the dumping ground for Orange County’s homeless population?

          http://articles.latimes.com/2001/mar/07/local/me-34421

          • #132 by John Ehrlichman on February 14, 2013

            It’s a tough issue with no easy solution. A lot of cities feel like they’re getting dumped on in regards to the homeless population. One thing I do get is that you can’t lump the ones who never want to leave the streets with the ones who are actually “down on their luck” and need a few months worth of help to get back into the game again. I concede that there is a difference. A guy who gets thrown out of his apartment for not paying rent is not necessarily the one pissing all over our shrubs.

            • #133 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2013

              As I said earlier, I’m all for providing temporay fr those who are truly in need, however I think that they need to be divided equally throughout each of the five districts within Orange County to prevent the sort of “dumping” of the homeless population into Fullerton, from becoming the charade that went on for years in Skid Row for the homeless population within LA County.

          • #134 by Jane H on February 14, 2013

            Wow! I had no idea they were being bused in and out of Fullerton. No wonder this is a hot topic.

            No easy answers.

            • #135 by cg on February 14, 2013

              They all get free bus passes….So they are all at the bus stop on (5-6am) Brockhurst and Velencia going north. Back to Santa Ana…..FPD parked at the seven 11 to move them along. Starbuks stuck with the rest, Smokin crack at the starbuks at 6am. Cream of the crop, we get here in Fullerton. Pissed, you bet!!!!!

        • #136 by cg on February 14, 2013

          You don’t live in Fullerton, so you do not understand. Go do some research and find out, why so many of the homeless are rejected from the shelter, located in Fullerton. Then you will understand the point. I am all for a safe camp for the homeless. We are the dumping ground for OC. You don’t know, until it’s in your face.

        • #137 by More Problems than That on February 14, 2013

          Many people here after the Kelly Thomas incident widely portrayed Thomas, and all homeless, as all being harmless and gentle, to include many families and children.

          While it is certainly true that there is a portion of the homeless who are truly down on their luck, are doing everything they can to get back on their feet, aren’t law breakers, and want a hand up instead of a handout, the vast majority are single men and women with mental and/or drug and/or alcohol problems who break the law and cause quality of life issues with great regularity. I am merely bringing attention by posting, usually without commentary, evidence of the magnitude of the problems caused by homeless drawn to Fullerton by handouts.

          The solution would be to have more funding for mental health, drug and alcohol treatment, with all surrounding cities also doing their part. Incarceration is not going to help much. Forced medication for mental illness would help significantly, but that’s not palatable for quite a few people.

          I have literally spoken with hundreds of homeless people over the years….I know what I’m talking about. There ARE resources available for families with children who are homeless, so you see very few of them, but this is also because families usually work hard to get off the street. Single people? Not so much. They’d rather party, not follow rules, have a good time, shirk any responsibility whatsoever. The armory and shelters only serve to reinforce this behavior.

          Fullerton will become even more of a transient dumping ground than it already is. Shelters do not solve problems….they cause far more than they solve.

          I’m all for helping those that are truly down on their luck and are willing to work to get back on their feet. Sadly, homeless people fitting this description are VERY few and far between.

          • #138 by cg on February 14, 2013

            Go see what the Hunts Library and the pooch park, has turned into. Can I say nut cases, and drug addicts. Nobody seems to care that Pacific Drive is right there. A elementary school next store to all that crap. Remember parents soccer starts soon and baseball has already started. Somebody needs to open their eyes….Or are we going wait till some kids get hurt. And go ahead and call me over the edge. I have opened my eyes!!!!!

            • #139 by Lifesaving Service on February 14, 2013

              They are separate issues, they are doing an OK job of deflecting the cities problem into a debatable issue, of the homeless and not “Reckless Sadistic Brutality and Injustice”, just realize the whole soxs and shelter deflection. (This is a Whiting OC Register Post)

              They cant torture and have their sadistic episodes on African Americans anymore (Way too many incidents and history, and very strong legal and rights defense.)
              so they move on to other susceptable demographics. Sociopathic tendencies are magnetic and psychos group together normal people dont have appeal for that.

              Maybe the County is punishing the city but the cities people suffer more.

              The economic and social trouble is concerning.
              The decades long moral and ethical bankruptcy is a related and not only an alarming issue, but as we have seen lately a SAFETY ISSUE!!!

  31. #140 by we have bigger problems on February 14, 2013

  32. #141 by True Hero on February 14, 2013

    • #142 by HUH? on February 15, 2013

      Rest in Peace. Thanks for giving your life to your calling. We will always be grateful. God bless you and your family. I hope God receives you and Officer Crain in Police heaven.

      • #143 by Mr. Peabody on February 15, 2013

        “Police heaven?”

        You mean there’s a heaven for them and a heaven for us? Weird. Really weird.

        • #144 by HUH? on February 15, 2013

          sarcastic Fucktard.

          • #145 by The Fullerton Harpoon on February 16, 2013

            Uh oh, you won’t gt into cop heaven with a potty mouth like that. Choir Boy Danny says so.

  33. #147 by Jurnalist on February 15, 2013

    truthseeker :And they didn’t even search that home!!! Kcal 9 interviewed a resident of the building and NO ONE searched it. Also the supposedly the charred remains of him were found in the home that was burned to the ground but miraculously the wallet and drivers license survived the Waco style inferno. It reminds me of 911 when the hijackers’ passports were, against all odds, found in the rubble of the World Trade Center even though the black boxes were not and we were told that the burning kerosene in my tiki torch in the aluminum pot, ahhm I mean the burning jet fuel supposedly melted the steel and pulverized the concrete. What kind of material do they make drivers licenses, passports and wallets out of these days? What was going on in Washington DC last night? I wonder. What magnificent piece of legislation did the President sign yesterday?

    they had to bring in a corpse…you think they were gonna drag it a mile? Nope they moved his already dead corpse, into that cabin. Dorner was already dead. When they TORCHED that MF”er. People, think it cant happen to them.

  34. #150 by Jurnalist on February 15, 2013

    cg :You don’t live in Fullerton, so you do not understand. Go do some research and find out, why so many of the homeless are rejected from the shelter, located in Fullerton. Then you will understand the point. I am all for a safe camp for the homeless. We are the dumping ground for OC. You don’t know, until it’s in your face.

    the reason for that is that need to qualify the need and the numbers so dicapreeeeeee-o and ron thomas can make money off the homeless. ANyone ask Ronald SLeezly, how much money he has made so far? How come he never- opened a homeless shelter? O yeah thats right, he and McGowen and those in the collective want to make money. Awesome, I love when the fake elite fist fuckers from the hill, want to do pet projects, I get to meet some of the most pathetic people I have ever encountered, and I aint talking the homeless, the scary crazy homeless. what that fuck is wrong with people, I let homeless sleep in my house, never had a problem, ever. boooga boooga, cmon- when did people making money off less fortunate be so popular. Fullerton blows.

    • #151 by cg on February 15, 2013

      “I let homeless sleep in my house, never had a problem, ever.”
      Good for you! I hope you provide them with socks also. Do you take their crack pipes and needles before they enter your home? Or are you just lettin the ones in that are down on there luck?

  35. #152 by Fullerton borrows $7 million to cover debts on February 15, 2013

  36. #153 by FEBRUARY 19, 2013 - 6:30 P.M. on February 15, 2013

    1. PRESENTATION: SUPERVISOR SHAWN NELSON – PROPOSED HOMELESS SHELTER

    http://fullerton.granicus.com/DocumentViewer.php?file=fullerton_0baf63dba45c7b5858c0c6f47960db14.pdf

    • #154 by Anonymous on February 15, 2013

      this is a done deal, all they are doing is peeing on our leg and telling us it is raining. Make resident s”feel” like they have a voice in this horrible plan. Talk about fucktards.

  37. #155 by Moorlach May Step Down as Chairman of Homelessness Panel on February 15, 2013

    • #156 by Big Foot Strikes Out on February 15, 2013

      FAILURE!!!!

    • #157 by truthseeker on February 15, 2013

      Poor guy he touched the tar baby and now he needs some kerosene to wash his hands.

  38. #158 by Gregg Law on February 15, 2013

    I think its very rare these days to find any media outlet that is not in some way biased. Even sites that name themselves bipartisan things like FactCheck .org are in fact sponsored by organizations strongly tied to political parties

  39. #159 by Stanley Fiala on February 15, 2013

    Eulogizing Gus Ayer, the former mayor of fountain valley (who wrote on the orange juice blog as “mayor quimby”)

    “It a fact that progressives do not like the GOD so, the GOD does not like them. There is plenty of time in purgatory to rethink the left liberal progressivism”.

    http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/02/mayor-quimbys-last-piece-can-the-municipal-water-district-of-oc-find-a-reason-to-exist/

    • #160 by Stanley Fiala on February 16, 2013

      “Debbie Cook”………. Hmmmmmm

      Vern’s platonic love.

      I wonder how many times have you, Vern Nelson, masturbated in front of that picture.

    • #161 by Stanley Fiala on February 17, 2013

      Allegedly your Mayor is communicating with the convicted felon. Nice Government you have in the Fullerton.

      Bruce Whitaker
      Posted February 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      Vern,

      Following the Orange County bankruptcy, I ran in the ’96 election for OC Supervisor, 3rd District. I was surprised during that campaign to receive a generous unsolicited contribution from Gus Ayer, underscoring his support for clean and transparent local government. Gus was someone who opposed cronyism as he saw it, and understood that untrammeled power and/or partisanship corrupts.

      http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/02/remembering-gus-ayer-and-keeping-his-spirit-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-403877

  40. #162 by HUH? on February 15, 2013

    What happened everyone loved the homeless and Kelly Thomas. Who the hell understands you all?

    • #163 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 16, 2013

      HUH? :
      What happened everyone loved the homeless and Kelly Thomas. Who the hell understands you all?

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      National and international media foo!

      • #164 by HUH? on February 17, 2013

        Yeah sure..Media long gone.

  41. #165 by Brandon on February 16, 2013

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/elderly-couple-pulled-over-buckeye-car-decal-mistaken191317336–ncaaf.html

    This is exactly why everyone needs to pull out their cell phone and recording their interactions with cops any time they get pulled over. Not only did these officers mistake a Buckeye leaf for a marijuana leaf, they tried to intimidate the elderly couple into taking off the bumper sticker. Guess these good ole boys thought that a bumper sticker advertising pot was a criminal offense. It was funny to read about the woman in the story refusing to take it off. Maybe if these officers actually learned some of the laws they would stop acting like they can enforce shit they make up.

  42. #166 by Brandon on February 16, 2013

    record*

    • #167 by Office of Sadistic Review on February 16, 2013

      American Public Teachers Unions and Police Unions biggest scam in the history of mankind.

      Same politics that voted in Hitler. (for the average folks BS)

  43. #168 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    Anonymous :There is NO motive for these murders. Dorner is a coward shooting two unarmed innocent people and gunning down a police officer. You people here are so stupid that you don’t know a manic coward from your asshole. Dorner had his day in court (many as a matter of fact) he lost. He is a loser in life and snapped. It is NOT the fault of the LAPD, his high school teacher, or his mommy. His actions are his own and murder like this is never justifiable.

    just like our coward cops- HAMPTON, BLATNEY & CRAIG, not to mention Danny and his stomach stapled goodrich, and walrus handler coffman…those fuck nuts are cowards, they never stood up for anything in their measly lives, never except their paycheck and some tommys burger- they are an embarrassment to LEO, everywhere.

  44. #169 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    HUH? :What happened everyone loved the homeless and Kelly Thomas. Who the hell understands you all?

    1- I do help the homeless,but dont take donation form people to help them.
    2- Dont want to be part of kellys fake drug riddled lying army, no one from this city who has had contact with FRED RONALD SLEEZLY THOMAS, wants to work with a guy who is out for himself,
    3- Try finding out this guy sold his sons foto-
    4- No one wants to help a theif even if he lost his son, no one.

    • #170 by HUH? on February 17, 2013

      Wow that is the first time I’ve heared that Ron Thomas sold the photo..what a sleeze ball!!

  45. #171 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    cg :“I let homeless sleep in my house, never had a problem, ever.”Good for you! I hope you provide them with socks also. Do you take their crack pipes and needles before they enter your home? Or are you just lettin the ones in that are down on there luck?

    Cg- your an the problem, go hit bong rips with toney or bring some good keif over and keep telling yourself your part of the in crowd, keep doing it, you think Tony gonna help you in the end? He is not- you are one of those pre-homeless, cant wait to feed your sorry ass, PS your weed sucks. You are a dissapointment to mankind, your funny and have a wit, but not one ounce of decency, I have met you and attest to this, your one of those funny guys as long as you donthave to deal with it, you dont.
    I have never asked you for help, nor would I want to white bread, but thats just me understanding our homeless are better than you. Go figure. Good luck raising those coo coo kids with your thought process.LOL

  46. #172 by Jurnalist on February 17, 2013

    cg :“I let homeless sleep in my house, never had a problem, ever.”Good for you! I hope you provide them with socks also. Do you take their crack pipes and needles before they enter your home? Or are you just lettin the ones in that are down on there luck?

    Julia- the old lady- she is what a crack head? what an idiot you are. I gave an old lady a couch to sleep on, someones grandma, seriously Im the asshole, go chocl on fake cheesebread at Mulberry..stfu. I hope they eat you first.

  47. #174 by Jurnalist on February 19, 2013

    reasonable person :Seriously. Have any of you had an personal bad experiences with a cop? Your level of disdain for the police is disturbing. You read or hear something in the news and next you think is all cops are corrupt. How ignorant can you people be. I’m sure whatever profession you’re in has people who have done bad things. Does that make you bad? Please remember, you cant believe everything you read inert the paper and you especially can’t believe everything dorner is saying. If you do then you are more gullible than manti te ‘o.

    So if one eyed tong beats the shit out of my sister- and laughs about it…Im to what? Love that officer? Seriously white bread, you eat from the tommy truck and lick boot, but those of us who dont- we deserve it right? Nice Work Goodrich, your lame ass kid buy that? No he doesnt and is mocked, you big dick- you dont care about your kid or the people of this city, have your wife leave her comments on Big City cops- where the herd can pretend they do something.

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