Pat McKinley’s Benchmark of Excellence: Albert Rincon GOD MODE ACTIVATED


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Reflecting on the FPD career of Albert Rincon, the man accused of serially sexually assaulting women in the back of his patrol car, made me think about the creep that hired him, and the standards that were applied to the recruit.

We have seen from the facebook page of “Albey Al” a preening, self-absorbed, utterly shallow weasel. Okay that’s bad enough. What makes Albey Al Rincon’s presence on the Fullerton police force even more revealing is the virtual illiteracy of a grown man who can not spell, let alone write complete or even intelligible sentences. This begs the question of what sort of standards Pat McKinley applied to his recruits. After all, he hired Rincon, just like all the others.

Clearly, being a narcissistic megalomaniac was not an impediment to Rincon’s employment, and why should it have been? McKinley himself fits this profile. And let’s not forget how McKinley himself excused Rincon’s sexual battery: “it ain’t a dangerous thing.”

But are there no basic academic qualifications required to be a Fullerton cop?  Apparently not.

Narcissism and ignorance are a bad combination, and the complete lack of moral scruples rounds out the McKinley recruit profile. Now give ‘em a badge and a gun and let ‘em hit the streets of Fullerton! McKinley has yet to disavow Rincon as some sort of “alien;” and why should he? They are kindred spirits.

McKinley set the FPD bar so low that even a morally vacuous, messed up ignoramus like Albert Rincon could slither over it.  Despite the pleas from FPD apologists about all the good cops employed by the department, we are justified to question that claim, given the mere presence of Rincon on the force; somebody thought he was not only fit for duty, but that he deserved to stay on duty after all the charges leveled against him.

The really dangerous thing is that the FPD and anti-recall crew don’t want us to talk about Rincon. Or Mater. Or Major, or Mejia, or Hampton, or Thayer, or Tong, or Baughman, or Nguyen, or Solario, or Siliceo, or any of the other police department employees who have given the City a series of black eyes. They want the public to think that a couple cops maybe, just maybe, got a little over-excited one hot night last July, and that Kelly Thomas’ death is a lone example of miscreance being exploited for political purposes.

Well, despite Acting Chief Hughes protestations, there has been and still is a Culture of Corruption in the FPD. The fact is that McKinley’s twisted chickens are finally coming home to roost. The repercussions will be prolonged and painful, emotionally and economically. But after June 5th McKinley will just be an noxious footnote in Fullerton’s history. The clean up will take a while.

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  1. #1 by Mr. Peabody on March 19, 2012

    Brilliant. Thanks for that.

  2. #2 by Food for Thought on March 19, 2012

    “The really dangerous thing is that the FPD and anti-recall crew don’t want us to talk about Rincon. Or Mater. Or Major, or Mejia, or Hampton, or Thayer, or Tong, or Baughman, or Nguyen, or Solario, or Siliceo, or any of the other police department employees who have given the City a series of black eyes.”

  3. #3 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    interesting to note many current FPD empoyees are still facebook friends with an apparent narcissist Rincon even after the allegations and dishonorable discharge.

  4. #4 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    I just heard on the news, that there is supposed to be a mic in the squad car as well-does Fullerton not have that?

  5. #5 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    That’s the system I was talking about Merijoe. The standard system used by most PD’s these days has the video in the car that is activated once the red light is activated, or manually by hitting the DAR on the belt. That also activates the system in the car which has a mic in the rear cage area that is used to record conversations between suspects, or anything else. It all downloads into the server once you pull into the police station. Fullerton doesn’t have that system. They just have a system that you turn on when you can on your belt with storage done manually. Old. Ancient.

  6. #6 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    Wow, what a scathing article. But one that is not without merit. Cool Fullerton Shadow.

    Merijoe, are you talking about a video camera mic in the unit?

    If so, depends on the type of equipment installed.

    Some units the officer wears the mic on his uniform, that is the only audio.

    Other more advanced systems have a mic installed in the head liner, in the back seat of the unit so it picks up comments from the suspect(s).

    If no audio or video unit is in the unit, then only the DAR is available for the recording conversations.

    An officer can put his DAR on the headrest of the front seat, or somewhere in the back seat to pick up conversation by whom ever.

  7. #7 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    Sorry I was typing the same time RI was, yes what he said too.

  8. #8 by Fullerton Lover on March 19, 2012

    …some things never change. I was looking at the city web site this morning, and noticed a link for Fullerton’s Most Wanted. I also noticed that the crimes that were committed in each and every instance are over 20 years ago! Guess who the Detective is that was assigned to crack this case? Yes, it’s our own President of the Fullerton Police Officer’s Union, and defender of noise standards during the Kelly Thomas protests, “Detective” BARRY COFFMAN!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEIbMZxqJw8

    Latest and greatest FPD MOST WANTED list…
    http://www.cityoffullerton.com/depts/police/fullertons_most_wanted/default.asp

  9. #9 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    I meant the audio portion only, that is activated only if the DAR is activated?

  10. #10 by Goodbar on March 19, 2012

    You didn’t mention the fact that Goodrich disseminated false information. The fact that he never bothered to set the record straight indicates that he intentionally misled the public.

  11. #11 by Fred Alcazar on March 19, 2012

    Good point. Also let’s not forget the Public Misinfomration Officer who leaked the bogus story about Norby.

  12. #12 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    But they have money for over 200 raincoats and money they’ve been skimming from the water bills for years, but they can’t put any aside for something for public safety, I guess bullets and tasers are enough for public safety.

  13. #13 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    I heard they are suppose to have both.

  14. #14 by Outsider on March 19, 2012

    What’s the latest on Ramos and Cicinelli? When are these 2 supposed to go on trial? Been checking out FFF periodically but haven’t seen much coverage on them.

  15. #15 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    There’s no laws or rules about cops having either or. It’s just a choice of command staff and comes down to money. Some systems are very nice, and work almost all on their own. Some are just cheesy and they are DARs in a belt holder and they are manually operated. Some are even just downloaded when needed, deleted when not.

    Yes money is the issue for sure. Rain jackets are a drop in the bucket out of asset forfeiture. This system is probably close to a million dollars to do it right in the units and to have the right servers. They need to be kept up to a year, so that’s probably a million in servers right there. Departments have to confiscate a lot of money to asset forfeiture to get that system purchased these days.

  16. #16 by Is Officer Albert Rincon the CSU Fullerton Rapist? on March 19, 2012

    I love that the CSU Fullerton rapist isn’t on their most wanted list. Gee I wonder why?

  17. #17 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Cause they already caught him?

  18. #18 by Is Officer Albert Rincon the CSU Fullerton Rapist? on March 19, 2012

    Reality Is :
    Cause they already caught him?

    Nice try but you know I’m not asking about about the rape that happened over a decade ago.

  19. #19 by La Roo on March 19, 2012

    Right on cue FS. My husband and I were discussing this very issue last night. I could see if we lived in a city like Los Angeles where there are more officers employed because of the amount of citizens living in its county how a handful of corrupt officers aren’t a “big deal”. Unfortunately we live in a small town where this handful of corrupt officers is unacceptable. The basic math in this equation is intolerable.

  20. #20 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    That is such bullshit! They never caught the guy from 2011. I thought you of all people would be interested in taking a vicious rapist off the streets.

    From the OC Weekly
    :

    Today Fullerton police released a sketch of a man suspected of sexually assaulting a Fullerton College student last month.

    The man, who didn’t know his victim, came up behind her, shoved his hand up her skirt and grabbed both her buttocks and genital area, police say. Before walking away, the man locked eyes with this victim.

    Police suspect the man is also a student at Fullerton College. Anyone with information should call Detective Ron Bair at (714) 738-6762 or (714) 738-6716.

    Oh yeah, that smells like the work of Albert Rincon and the visual similarities between the sketch and Albey Rincon photo can’t be ignored.

    Hell, I encourage everyone to read the court transcripts from two of his victims

    http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/FPD-Assault-27-1.pdf
    and

    http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/FPD-Assault-27-2.pdf

    You’ll see the similarities.

  21. #21 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    That is such BS! They never caught the guy from 2011. I thought you of all people would be interested in taking a vicious rapist off the streets.

    From the OC Weekly
    :

    Today Fullerton police released a sketch of a man suspected of sexually assaulting a Fullerton College student last month.

    The man, who didn’t know his victim, came up behind her, shoved his hand up her skirt and grabbed both her buttocks and genital area, police say. Before walking away, the man locked eyes with this victim.

    Police suspect the man is also a student at Fullerton College. Anyone with information should call Detective Ron Bair at (714) 738-6762 or (714) 738-6716.

    Oh yeah, that smells like the work of Albert Rincon and the visual similarities between the sketch and Albey Rincon photo can’t be ignored.

    Hell, I encourage everyone to read the court transcripts from two of his victims http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/FPD-Assault-27-1.pdf and http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/FPD-Assault-27-2.pdf

    You’ll see the similarities.

  22. #22 by James West on March 19, 2012

    There is no law that requires Police Departments to record contacts. In fact the attempt to add transparency has backfired in many cases. The FBI does it right.

    A Justice Department advisory committee is reviewing an FBI policy that encourages agents to document interviews with criminal suspects the old-fashioned way: with a paper and pencil.

    The practice has been a point of contention within the Justice Department, particularly as more state and local law enforcement agencies use video and audio equipment to record custodial interviews.

    With few exceptions, agents’ handwritten notes, summarized in typewritten documents called 302s, are the only records available to prosecutors and defense lawyers. The policy forbids agents from electronically recording confessions or interviews without authorization by their Special Agent in Charge.

    A subcommittee of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee of U.S. Attorneys recently began examining recording practices nationwide, Justice Department and FBI officials said. The advisory committee is an influential policymaking body whose recommendation bear the weight of the U.S. Attorney community.

    In the past, the bureau and other federal law enforcement agencies have strongly argued against proposals that would require agents to electronically record interviews, on the grounds that they could hinder rapport-building, discourage suspects from speaking candidly and expose juries to unsettling interrogation techniques.

  23. #23 by tu sabes on March 19, 2012

    Just like I pictured him! He looks exactly like someone who would prey on 40 year old tweeker girls leaving bananas on raymond ave, NOT!! Please go to bananas and ask to speak/look at the owners daughter and when u look at her picture 7 of her friends who look exactly the same and if u dont feel like vomitting, like u would when looking at ERIN, then you like white trash inbreeds

  24. #24 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Oooops. Musta been the other rapist.

  25. #25 by Nathan Maltese ESQ on March 19, 2012

    My client Andrew Goodrich has been exonrated of any misconduct alleged by the owners and employees of this blog known as Friend of Fullertons Future they being Tony Bushala, Tavis Kiger and Chris Thompson. I emplore you to cess and desist anymore slanderous comments which you know will cause further injury to the reputation of Mr. Goodrich.

  26. #26 by Food for Thought on March 19, 2012

    When you 10% or more, its no longer a “handful” but an epidemic.

  27. #27 by Fred Alcazar on March 19, 2012

    Wow, then Rincon is REALLY a sick MF-er. Thanks for the clarification!

  28. #28 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Wow, I hadn’t realized how similar the sketch is to Rincon’s FB picture!!! OMG……!
    http://fullertonstories.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/FPD_SKetch-sm.jpg

  29. #29 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    Just because the corrupt policia have someone who fits the bill superficially, in custody, doesnt mean the actual perp who did the deed, was caught.

  30. #30 by Citizen M on March 19, 2012

    Reality Is :That’s the system I was talking about Merijoe. The standard system used by most PD’s these days has the video in the car that is activated once the red light is activated, or manually by hitting the DAR on the belt. That also activates the system in the car which has a mic in the rear cage area that is used to record conversations between suspects, or anything else. It all downloads into the server once you pull into the police station. Fullerton doesn’t have that system. They just have a system that you turn on when you can on your belt with storage done manually. Old. Ancient.

    O the ol DAR, that damn thing, seems to be shut off, by the ilk of Rincon, or brady cop Mater. So, what do we do, when they refuse to keep the current DAR’s on or in working order?

  31. #31 by The Brea on March 19, 2012

    Wait, so they caught someone involved in the assault the ocweekly article is talking about?

    I’ve been searching like crazy and I can’t find anything about it. I’m confused.

  32. #32 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Citizen M :

    Reality Is :That’s the system I was talking about Merijoe. The standard system used by most PD’s these days has the video in the car that is activated once the red light is activated, or manually by hitting the DAR on the belt. That also activates the system in the car which has a mic in the rear cage area that is used to record conversations between suspects, or anything else. It all downloads into the server once you pull into the police station. Fullerton doesn’t have that system. They just have a system that you turn on when you can on your belt with storage done manually. Old. Ancient.

    O the ol DAR, that damn thing, seems to be shut off, by the ilk of Rincon, or brady cop Mater. So, what do we do, when they refuse to keep the current DAR’s on or in working order?

    Why do they download when you pull into the station?
    Is that (the download) automatic or manual?
    Is there a system that stays on continually and continually downloads that cannot be accessed by the officer? That type of system would bring more accountability IMHO.

  33. #33 by The Brea on March 19, 2012

    Can anyone confirm that the guy the OC Weekly is talking about is in custody?

    merijoe? reality is?

  34. #34 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    Exonerated? bahaaawaahaa-was he on trial?

    We are angry taxpaying, bloggers who will pop the truth in your ass about the corrupt, stupid, and ugly FPD includeing Goodrich. Don’t look for respect or anything else, here or anywhere else.

    And for all you whiners/douche-bags – here’s the law: “It should be noted that opinions cannot be considered slander, defamation or libel as it is protected by the constitutional free speech.” ha-ha. bite me.

  35. #35 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    They never caught that guy. Reality Is is running interference/posting disinformation for whatever reason.

    I can somewhat understand why he would do this over current police officers but not for some scum bag who got medically refired by the department.

  36. #36 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    How else would you want them to download? They are held in the unit, unaccessible and unalterable, until the unit is pulled into the station. Then it automatically downloads to the main server. No one can interrupt or change that download or stop it or change it. The data is stored on the main server for whatever period that PD wants to hold the data. Obviously, data means money, so 30 days or 60 days or whatever the server will hold.

    Yes, automatic.

    No, something that is on 24/7 for every cop would be nice, but the amount of data would be huge and costly. Always possible, sure. Most record when the forward facing red light is activated, or when manually activated at the belt. The officer can’t destroy or alter the recorded data on the system I’m talking about. If they destroy the DAR it wouldn’t matter, that’s just a control device. Destroying the DAR occurs on the type of digital recorders that hold the data and then it’s manually downloaded to a server. So destruction prior to download, and no backup.

  37. #37 by truthseeker on March 19, 2012

    hijo de sostenes

  38. #38 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Interesting. Wonder if this is true. I was predicting a huge lawsuit against FFF and Tony soon, but didn’t know for sure. There are so many things said on here that are slander and untrue. Will be interesting to see if they actually sue for it.

    Joe, you would be surprised what isn’t actually protected free speech. I’ts not a free for all that’s for sure.

    I did a quick search for Nathan and don’t see anything. Probably just a troll LOL

  39. #39 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    My guess is it’s just a policy violation. Depending on the reasoning for the violation, could be termination or days off.

  40. #40 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    got ya, I confused em.

  41. #41 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    “I emplore you to cess”

    cease or cesspool? you decide

  42. #42 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    What about voice activated to eliminate excessive data and data that is automatically sent via cell towers and stored for (whatever amount of time) and then deleted if nothing (citizen complaint, etc.) triggers a review?

  43. #43 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    “There are so many things said on here that are slander and untrue.”

    Such a funny guy. Like you never say anything untrue or slanderous.

  44. #44 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    There is everything out there. Just takes money. I guess ideally you would want them on all the time and stored for up to a year right? Well, that is a huge amount of data. So then what, 30 days? Most of the FFFF complaints are a year ago so then none of the recordings would be there anymore so then a big coverup right? Then they can’t record personal conversations with family or friends on breaks, so they go off then. It’s tough. There are awesome systems out there and 9 times out of 10 they work in favor of the officers with complaints that are lies or made up. I think Fullerton should come up with $1,000,000 and buy a new age system and do it right. It will only work to the benefit of the cops.

  45. #45 by Justice for All on March 19, 2012

    “Maltese” is a DOG of an “attorney,” who can’t write, or spell, and who doesn’t know the law. I think Goodbar needs to find himself a new “attorney.”

  46. #46 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    RI the stalker-Goodrichy is a public figure-and since you believe your nonsense then you should be sued too for your slanderous remarks about kelly, his dad and etc. etc. etc.

    Anything said on here is protected as are the people responsible for sending those false, ridiculous, slanderous mailers on Tony Bushala to the entire city of Fullerton.

    Oh, putting an ESQ behind your name without being licensed is practicing without a license and could garner a person in serious trouble.

  47. #47 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Your defensive tone is pretty counterproductive to constructive conversation IMO, makes me want to walk away when really I am inquisitive and have good intentions. Is that intentional?
    Irregardless, looks like Fullerton is looking down the barrel of some pretty hefty lawsuits so the 1M accountability investment and the PR it could generate might make mathematical sense or maybe look like the PD is trying to restore public trust.
    Puzzled why conversations cannot be recorded on breaks…if the officer consents to it, what is the problem?

  48. #48 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    Don’t forget the “emplore implore”

    It’s just a troll.

  49. #49 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Isn’t emplore spelled implore and exonrated, exonerated?

  50. #50 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    Those too.

  51. #51 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Not being defensive. Was trying to be informative.

    If officers consent, sure. Case law doesn’t allow an employer to record personal conversations. I really don’t need FFFF knowing my vacation plans and personal discussions during my breaks. Sometimes you and I all talk about things others don’t need to know about.

  52. #52 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    I would disagree on that broad brush but we will see later I’m sure. For now, we can spew away.

  53. #53 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    I don’t think the personal conversations should be public knowledge but if they are recorded by omission and filtered out by a neutral party, seems harmless to me but to each his own….besides I never go on vacation anyway.

  54. #54 by The Brea on March 19, 2012

    I’ll be honest I felt a bit nauseous seeing his picture, the sketch and reading the transcript the op posted.

  55. #55 by Wheres Erin? on March 19, 2012

    Fred and truthseeker, good comments, lol….By the way is Erin missing in action bcuz shes still hung over from the drag queen contest on saturday at Big’s sports bar on st college? Heard she and bunny had a great time even though Erin came in 2nd place. Its good to know the owner so I can post surveillance video on youtube. You can see how erin/aaron?, bunny, and crew get ready to drive off drunk but see the cops outside and run back inside to call a taxi…smh

  56. #56 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    I don’t know WTH you are talking about, but disagree all you want, it happens to be true

  57. #57 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    haha

  58. #58 by Mysteries of Fullerton: Tony Bushala and the Schumacher Building on March 19, 2012

  59. #59 by Citizen M on March 19, 2012

    tu sabes :Just like I pictured him! He looks exactly like someone who would prey on 40 year old tweeker girls leaving bananas on raymond ave, NOT!! Please go to bananas and ask to speak/look at the owners daughter and when u look at her picture 7 of her friends who look exactly the same and if u dont feel like vomitting, like u would when looking at ERIN, then you like white trash inbreeds

    I met a group of mexican she- whores, your ugly tia & hermana who pretty much deserved, being molested, because, you know they are illegal….sounds bad huh? why? because it is! as sick and narrow minded as what- you just stated. Am I missing something here, because they were not your fuckable ilk they ( who ever you dont find attractive) get to be molested, because your flag of superficiality, how are you any better than Rincon or Wren. Dude I wish your mom had swallowed.( for the record I have not 1 issue with mexicans, I used that ethnicity to prove a sick point to..Mr Sabes.
    aside from him…sorry If I offended anyone.

  60. #60 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    ok

    merijoe :
    I don’t know WTH you are talking about, but disagree all you want, it happens to be true

  61. #61 by Tuco Ramirez on March 19, 2012

    Tuco says the Data cost to store this is NOTHING! You would not believe the amount of data stored of cell phone conversations, etc. Data storage is cheap. It could store EVERYTHING for one year and the cost would not be prohibitive.
    Everyone is an expert, NOT. So do not say things are prohibitive in our high technology age. All the recorders should be on for the entire shift recording everything. Only when back in the office can they be turned off since they are not interacting with the public.
    The watch commander should have one on too ALL THE TIME.

  62. #62 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Tuco should write up a proposal with costs and present it to the council then. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, continuous recordings for at least 50 people to be safe, all video and audio, for a year. If that’s cheap, write it up. Then all that is left is all the equipment audio and video for the units and belts. Google it and call a supplier. You will see what the price is right away.

  63. #63 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

  64. #64 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    And might I add the reason he is hiding behind the keyboard. (insert smile)

  65. #65 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    I think there is a difference between people like all of us randomly posting replies to a blog and saying half truths as we do it, and the owner or the blog itself posting things about people that are half truths and slander. Magazines and blogs get sued all the time for putting up false information about people, and end up paying out money also.

  66. #66 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Just curious ACU, is your identity known to all here? I think I’m about as much known as you are right? You just offer to be known but haven’t proven that right? Or are you putting your full name out there for all to know?

  67. #67 by Fred Alcazar on March 19, 2012

    Cops play lawyer. Happens all the time. Not too smart. Only have GED.

    Bad for business. public safety.

  68. #68 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    Most of those old complaints were just discovered, SO, it’s just being talked about.

  69. #69 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    True ACU. But those recordings would be long gone.

  70. #70 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Cops wanna be lawyers. Cops act lawyers when make arrests. Cops try be smart. Cops GED. Cops love Fred. Fred is business. Fred is Chief.

  71. #71 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    Nope my identity is known to just one.

    No I think many know or strongly believe you are Pat McKinley, with Mr.Bankhead assisting you as needed.

    The times you blog lend credence to that. Plus you just stated your an old man.

    With that in mind I surely see why you will not come forth and meet anyone.

    It might just make the mob go wild, but the onslaught of the public will just go off the meter.

  72. #72 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    “Plus you just stated your an old man.”

    He’s 44 or 45, not an old man.

    20 year cop. What age do you think he is?

  73. #73 by AntiCorruptionUnit on March 19, 2012

    We must be talking about someone else Jane.

    I am talking about McKinley.

    If your talking about Patrick O’Malley or whatever his name is, I have not made the connection.

    Fill me in on who ever your talking about. Thanks.

  74. #74 by Nathan Maltese ESQ on March 19, 2012

    A federal judge in Oregon has ruled that a Montana woman sued for defamation was not a journalist when she posted online that an Oregon lawyer acted criminally during a bankruptcy case, a decision with implications for bloggers around the country.
    Crystal L. Cox, a blogger from Eureka, Mont., was sued for defamation by attorney Kevin Padrick when she posted online that he was a thug and a thief during the handling of bankruptcy proceedings by him and Obsidian Finance Group LLC.
    U.S. District Judge Marco Hernandez found last week that as a blogger, Cox was not a journalist and cannot claim the protections afforded to mainstream reporters and news outlets.
    Although media experts said Wednesday that the ruling would have little effect on the definition of journalism, it casts a shadow on those who work in nontraditional media since it highlights the lack of case law that could protect them and the fact that current state shield laws for journalists are not covering recent developments in online media.
    “My advice to bloggers is to get your shield law improved so bloggers are covered,” said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. “But do not expect the shield law to provide you a defense in a libel case where you want to rely on an anonymous source for that information.”
    The judge ruled that Cox was not protected by shield law from having to produce sources, saying even though Cox defines herself as media, she was not affiliated with any mainstream outlet. He added that the shield law does not apply to civil actions for defamation.
    Hernandez said Cox was not a journalist because she offered no professional qualifications as a journalist or legitimate news outlet. She had no journalism education, credentials, or affiliation with a recognized news outlet, proof of adhering to journalistic standards such as editing or checking her facts, evidence she produced an independent product, or evidence she ever tried to get both sides of the story.
    Cox said she considered herself a journalist, producing more than 400 blogs over the past five years, with a proprietary technique to get her postings on the top of search engines where they get the most notice.
    “What could be more mainstream than the Internet and the top of the search engine?” she said.
    Padrick, of Bend, Ore., was a trustee in a bankruptcy case involving Summit Accommodators, a company that helped property owners conduct real estate transactions in a way to limit taxes. Three executives face federal fraud and money laundering indictments.
    The lawyer sued Cox for defamation, a legal fight that is typically difficult for plaintiffs to win. Public figures, for example, must prove the defendant knew the statement in question was false, and the statement must be matters of public interest.
    The judge found that Padrick was not a public figure, and that the bankruptcy case was not in the public interest. The ruling opened the way for a jury to award $2.5 million to Padrick and Obsidian.
     
     
     
     

  75. #75 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    I got the feeling RI was still active, don’t cops retire @ 50?

  76. #76 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Interesting. Kinda what I thought.

  77. #77 by nipsey on March 19, 2012

    Ha did you just say something about someone else not proving something? Moron.

  78. #78 by nipsey on March 19, 2012

    Slander? Guess you don’t moonlight as an attorney. Show me the lawsuit.

  79. #79 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    No. There are a ton of myths related to the PERS retirement system.

    Cops are eligible to retire at 50, but that’s not at a maxed out percent. 3% per year of work at 50. So some retire at say 75% at 50. Some max out at 55 and retire at 55. Some never retire. I know a 75 year old cop right now that will never retire and he loses money by working everyday. Most retire at 55, some around 60. Just depends on when they started, how many years of service, and what retirement plan their departments have.

  80. #80 by The Law, Esq on March 19, 2012

    tu sabes: You are in violation of many laws. Consider yourself warned.

    http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/telecom/cyberstalking-cyberharassment-and-cyberbullying-l.aspx

    California
    Cyberstalking
    Cal. Civil Code § 1708.7, Cal Penal Code § 646.9
    Cyberharassment
    Cal. Penal Code §§ 422, 653.2, 653m
    Cyberbullying
    Cal. Ed. Code §§ 32261, 32265, 32270, 48900

  81. #81 by Citizen M on March 19, 2012

    Wheres Erin? :Fred and truthseeker, good comments, lol….By the way is Erin missing in action bcuz shes still hung over from the drag queen contest on saturday at Big’s sports bar on st college? Heard she and bunny had a great time even though Erin came in 2nd place. Its good to know the owner so I can post surveillance video on youtube. You can see how erin/aaron?, bunny, and crew get ready to drive off drunk but see the cops outside and run back inside to call a taxi…smh

    You are so stupid, they came in a cab.Ding bat. They left in a cab. Thank god your tailing Erin and Bunny…that whole cab thing must have been so confusing..get a life for fuck sake.

  82. #82 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    All that cyber stuff is tough. Ask the FBI. Proving that someone is posting something is tough. Yes you can narrow it down to a house or time, but without admitting it, it could have been a number of people posting. If it’s serious, they will figure it out, i.e. against OBama or something. Cyber crimes is a whole different animal.

  83. #83 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    I thought the same thing…could be a bored babysitter, dogsitter, housecleaner, cableman, etc. for all anyone knows or could possibly prove.

  84. #84 by Peaches on March 19, 2012

    Interesting news bit about a LEO in the Memphis, TN area –

    Officer Dion Anthony, who is accused of broadcasting his on-duty sexual encounter over his police radio.

    According to the [police] station, not only could all on-duty officers hear what Anthony was allegedly doing, but so could anyone with a police scanner.

    And, a comment from the PD -

    “Anytime you communicate via a handheld or console microphone you want to remain professional.’

    “Our job is to make sure all officers follow procedures. In this instance it’s possible he didn’t follow proper procedure.”

    Sounds like a Rinconesque event?

  85. #85 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    “Show me the lawsuit.”

    Exactly!

  86. #86 by Fred Alcazar on March 19, 2012

    “emplore”?

    Hahahaha! A GED lawyer!!

  87. #87 by Fred Alcazar on March 19, 2012

    Too bad Goodbar is a public figure. Hell, it’s even in his job title!!

    In any case I’m sure Goodblob would love to be deposed by a hard ass lawyer; all sorts of fun stuff is liable to tumble out of fatso’s mouth.

    Bring it on.

  88. #88 by Jump on March 19, 2012

    Half truths and slander? Oh, you mean like Goodrich did about Kelly Thomas?

  89. #89 by Water fight breaks out in Fullerton on March 19, 2012

  90. #90 by Johnny Donut on March 19, 2012

    Quirk-Silva’s statement said. “I will also call upon members of the city council to join me in a motion to stop any further diversions of water revenues to the general fund until these questions are answered.”

    Oh, NOW Quirk is concerned about the water scam. Where was she last year when it was uncovered? Quiet as a church mouse.

  91. #91 by Rincon's mind on March 19, 2012

    On my way to RAPE the city of fullerton with all my buddies from FPD…who will stick up for me….Bryan Bybee,Andrew Coyle,John Cross,
    Tim Haid, AmandaNguyen, Jeremy Viscusi…. & my bro, Pat McKinnley .

  92. #92 by Hey Albert Rincon on March 19, 2012

    We know what you’ve done and they know what you’ve done. Its only a matter of time until your badge buddies have no choice but to come a knocking on your door.

    And oh yeah your girls Amanda and Jenny aint going to risk their careers to give you a heads up about an investigation. Plus you’re a gross serial rapist and a potential serial killer which is a major turn off for most ladies.

    Question is how are you going out my friend?

    If you decide go out like the coward you are, tell all of your victims families why you did it so they can have peace of mind.

  93. #93 by Disgusted on March 19, 2012

    Queer mode activated!!!

  94. #94 by Pomona Resident on March 19, 2012

    CRYTO-GAY MODE ACTIVATED!

  95. #95 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    She’s been a scam from the start. Politician. She knows she escaped big time on this recall. Socks saved her.

  96. #96 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    She’s been a scam from the start. Politician. She knows she escaped big time on this recall. Socks saved her.

  97. #97 by SherBear on March 19, 2012

    The fact that you can’t spell, don’t know the difference between slander and libel and that you’re “warning” nameless people on a public blog leads me to believe you’re not an attorney in which case, practicing law without a license is illegal. Or you’re a really stupid one in dire need of remedial courses but the only one Goodwipe could get.

  98. #98 by truthseeker on March 19, 2012

    -just a shill to try to cool the blog off, quell dissent, and promulgate the myth that the first ammendment is just a thin veneer and hope we go back to sleep-not-not with the lights on.

  99. #99 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    O’Malley=RI

  100. #100 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    How were the bars in Pomona on Saturday? Lively?

  101. #101 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    Never been to Pomona. Do white people even dare go to Pomona? Risky.

  102. #102 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Oooh a racist too.

  103. #103 by Burning Blunt on March 19, 2012

    Your day will come Mr. Bushali

  104. #104 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    I know several, even one on your PD.

  105. #105 by merijoe on March 19, 2012

    …stroking persian cat

  106. #106 by Jane H on March 19, 2012

    Very uncalled for pea brain!

  107. #107 by Office of Sadistic Intelligent Review on March 19, 2012

    This Cities leadership needs to be locked up, PERIOD.

  108. #108 by DQ on March 19, 2012

  109. #109 by Anonymous on March 19, 2012

    Orange County solved that little problem over a decade ago. *wink*

  110. #110 by john doe on March 19, 2012

    or my 13 year old daughter.

  111. #111 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    I wanna hear the tape lol

  112. #112 by DQ on March 19, 2012

    I am sure it would have something to do with his 2″ back up lol

  113. #113 by Reality Is on March 19, 2012

    LOL small backups never work. Gotta have a big primary gun.

  114. #114 by DQ on March 19, 2012

    maybe that was “her” complaint — no big primary gun, so he had to go to backup mode heh heh

  115. #115 by HAM on March 19, 2012

    What are you two pigs oinking about?

  116. #116 by OFFICE of SADISTIC INTELLIGENT REVIEW on March 20, 2012

    BE VERY CAREFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “This narcissistic need for an audience manifests itself in other circumstances. Sadists strive to humiliate people in front of witnesses. This makes them feel omnipotent. Power plays are important to them and they are likely to treat people under their control or entrusted to their care harshly: a subordinate, a child, a student, a prisoner, a patient, or a spouse are all liable to suffer the consequences of the sadist’s “control freakery” and exacting “disciplinary” measures.”

    “…agony are hilarious and pleasurable. Sadists go to great lengths to hurt others: they lie, deceive, commit crimes, and even make personal sacrifices merely so as to enjoy the cathartic moment of witnessing someone else’s misery.

    Read more at Suite101: Sadistic Personality: Gratuitous Cruelty Suite101.com
    http://sam-vaknin.suite101.com/sadistic-personality-a4598

  117. #117 by OFFICE of SADISTIC INTELLIGENT REVIEW on March 20, 2012

    “…As soon as the woman left the room he looked at me and began to smile and chuckle. He expressed that his pre-planned expression of rage was meant to instill fear in the woman and that he was sure she would be more conscientious about doing his bidding because of it. He also expressed disgust for her weakness. His deliberate use of rage when in fact he seemed in a jovial mood after the fact made me aware for the first time how rage can be used as a manipulation and control tactic and that it doesn’t have to arise out of genuine anger or hurt. The long self-aggrandizing speech this man then engaged in with me also let me know the degree to which he was willing to make his sense of his own power and worth dependent upon the degree to which he could make others feel powerless and worthless. This man was extremely adept at spotting fairly conscientious individuals in one-down positions in their lives who needed support and were willing to put up with his bullying behavior. He surrounded himself with these types of folks and relished opportunities to terrorize them.”
    http://counsellingresource.com/features/2008/11/13/understanding-the-sadistic-personality/

  118. #118 by OFFICE of SADISTIC INTELLIGENT REVIEW on March 20, 2012

    “Traditional theories on personality development have always presumed that individuals like the sadistic personality became the way they are out of deep-seated feelings of inferiority or as a reaction to being themselves severely abused or demeaned as children. While it sometimes turns out that such things may be factors, there is no evidence to suggest that all such personalities have such characteristics in their background, although many will lie about it to engender the sympathy of others. Rather, it seems that the majority of these individuals simply consider themselves as superior to those whom they perceive as weak and take particular delight for pure entertainment’s sake in the torture of others.”
    http://counsellingresource.com/features/2008/11/13/understanding-the-sadistic-personality/

  119. #119 by Prove it on March 20, 2012

    Wheres Erin? :Fred and truthseeker, good comments, lol….By the way is Erin missing in action bcuz shes still hung over from the drag queen contest on saturday at Big’s sports bar on st college? Heard she and bunny had a great time even though Erin came in 2nd place. Its good to know the owner so I can post surveillance video on youtube. You can see how erin/aaron?, bunny, and crew get ready to drive off drunk but see the cops outside and run back inside to call a taxi…smh

    I was there, not with them, but was there- they took a cab,and left in a cab- you are lying- so produce the tape, or are you the girl who works there, I know who you are, Rincons buddy-you are on his freinds list- that I have a copy of- bring out that tape, or be prepared to suffer at the hand of a blog that aint so nice,you will be on blast- for lying. Prove it or- guess, what BIGS, is a place where ex cops can fondle chicks with the girl bartenders approval, maybe all the schools in the area should know this? see how this works, or in your case -how is doesnt,you lie, we catch you then exopse you for the liar you are, and the establishment that is the petri dish for molesting aint that special?Now email Rincon, and call me a hater, if a hater is exposing liars and molester sympathizers, then I am a HATER. PROVE IT, you cant- you are a liar.

  120. #120 by Citzen M on March 20, 2012

    Reality Is :Never been to Pomona. Do white people even dare go to Pomona? Risky.

    The only time I have been to Pomona, driving through- fast, but all I saw was fat mustached looking want- to -be- cops, white tweekers and old ladies. So not sure, the risk involved, unless you are stating, white people arent cops or tweekers-or old. Im serious, do you ever go back and look at your post and think, damn did I really say that?

  121. #121 by john doe on March 20, 2012

    Is that why you went to meet an ex cop and get that experience. Get it however you can. You guys sound pretty disperate.

  122. #122 by john doh on March 20, 2012

    Is that why the plastic bag baby rubber sole shoe tip. Donuts in the morning. Said the fox two tone sidewalk.

  123. #123 by Anonymous on March 20, 2012

    nice try salty nuts

  124. #124 by Justice for All on March 20, 2012

    So, sexual molestation is what we can expect if we run into an ex-cop, or active cop?? That’s good to know. Thanks. I don’t think anyone, in any way, shape or form, is “disperate” [sic] for that “experience.” At least now we know which establishments to stay clear of. And, we also know that john doe is a sympathizer for cop molesters. What a surprise. NOT

  125. #125 by James Cameron on March 20, 2012

    Are you really Cicinelli’s brother? If so, why are you ashamed to use your name? Oh, yeah, right.

  126. #126 by Reality Is on March 20, 2012

    Was just a question. Drive thru sometime and let me know.

  127. #127 by john doe on March 20, 2012

    You guys are the ones that posted all that. I am just going by what I read here. Dont know ask Errin or Merijoe.

  128. #128 by Jane H on March 21, 2012

    Drive down Holt Ave. on a Friday or Saturday night. Or, go to any gas station in that area and watch the hookers. Then you’ll see what a ghetto it is.

  129. #129 by Citzen M on March 21, 2012

    john doe :Is that why you went to meet an ex cop and get that experience. Get it however you can. You guys sound pretty disperate.

    Went with my boyfreind, to meet the band members who are our freinds. First time in that place, actually the 3rd bar in 14 years in Fullerton- not sure where your going with this.

  130. #130 by Wrong Guy on March 21, 2012

    I may do that…

  131. #131 by Citzen M on March 21, 2012

    Wrong Guy :I may do that…

    Wrong guy……….lmao, your going to holt, to do an independent review, not actually going to purchase an evening of frolic- lets put that out there right quick.

  132. #132 by OFFICE of SADISTIC INTELLIGENT REVIEW on March 21, 2012

    On network news Pomona was reported to be the worst place to raise children, ergo you get humans like, Reality Is.

  133. #133 by Vladimir Putin on March 21, 2012

    Rightski. Copskis beat up Mexicanskis. Then kills ‘emskis.

  134. #134 by blessusall on March 21, 2012

    “The man, who didn’t know his victim, came up behind her, shoved his hand up her skirt and grabbed both her buttocks and genital area, police say. Before walking away, the man locked eyes with this victim.”

    The similarities in this behavior and that described by Rincon’s victims are striking. Additionally, the screen shot of Rincon’s FB page describing the buttocks squeezing–sounds like his thing, too. Scary.

  135. #135 by Jane H on March 22, 2012

    Ha ha ha

  136. #136 by Jane H on March 22, 2012

    Fullerton suspect may be linked to 2 assaults

    FULLERTON, Calif. (KABC) — A search is under way for a man who sexually assaulted a woman who was walking along a Fullerton street, and police say this may not be his only attack.

    On Thursday, March 15, the victim was walking in the area of Calle Don Juan north of Las Palmas Drive shortly before 10 a.m. when the suspect approached her from behind, grabbed her buttocks and then grabbed her groin.

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8589974

  137. #137 by Wrong Guy on March 22, 2012

    Yes Citizen M, an independent review of course.

    Thanks for clarifying that for everyone else. LOL

  138. #138 by Citizen M on March 22, 2012

    Wrong Guy :Yes Citizen M, an independent review of course.
    Thanks for clarifying that for everyone else. LOL

    got yer back, gawd knows the cops dont. HA!

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