Comments on: Vince Mater Gets Wrist Slapped For Destruction of Evidence in Fullerton Jail House Death Case

By: Ronald Monerief Jr

Ronald Monerief Jr — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:30:38 +0000

If this is true, why wasn’t Kelly Thomas secured upon initial contact? They just let this violent offender sit there unattended? Am I understanding you correctly?

This violent homeless person is just allowed to sit there while the two police officers take their eyes and attention off of him?

By: Ronald Monerief Jr

Ronald Monerief Jr — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:23:11 +0000

Well, if Kelly was a threat why not handcuff him upon contact? The officers had every opportunity to do so but chose not to. Ninety-six contacts you say? Must have been minor.

You don’t get it both ways. Either Kelly was a threat or he was not. If he was, what’s with the failure to secure him? What’s with the relaxed atmosphere in his presence? The more Kelly Thomas is portrayed as a menacing threat, the worse it makes the police look.

As far as the attitude, that makes you look bad. When you have some more facts that you want shot down, feel free to reply.

By: JOHN DOE

JOHN DOE — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:25:25 +0000

No balls!!

By: JOHN DOE

JOHN DOE — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:24:23 +0000

Nope..most of the contacts were for burglary, pissing in public, exposing himself, violent behavior..should I continue. Look it up its in the Orange County Register, Oct. 18, 2012. On the District Attorneys letterhead.
“Attempted Murder”….a quiet soul?

By: Fullerton Lover

Fullerton Lover — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:18:19 +0000

I’ll buy that.

By: JOHN DOE

JOHN DOE — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 07:02:28 +0000

Why are they going to throw me in jail? In that case they might as well throw you in jail also.

By: JOHN DOE

JOHN DOE — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:59:58 +0000

Fullerton Lover : So your telling us that this document that I found on the city of Fullerton website the other day is a pack of lies? How so? Please be specific as to which page or what part of the document that I linked is a mis-representation of the truth. http://cityoffullerton.com/weblink8/1/doc/482592/Page1.aspx

The only reason they might still be contributing..maybe they are gonna get rehired...all depends on the out come of the on going charges.

By: Ryan Cantor

Ryan Cantor — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:33:18 +0000

I’ll confirm they’re still on FPOA’s 460 form. I was always curious that I could never find Wolfe, though.

Keep up those denials, John Doe. If you say it enough times, it really will come true.

By: Tuco Ramirez

Tuco Ramirez — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:34:45 +0000

re: Good cops. I know a number of them, but they are all retired! They raise funds for charities and have good parties! The several that I asked all privately say the 6 Fullerton cops went over the top and they frankly do not like the negative publicity for cops that it has caused.
If you were a good cop surrounded by a certain percentage of “bad” cops would you rat them out in the newspapers or on blogs or would you go through the chain of command? They choose the chain of command and if nothing happens, it is due to lack of ethics and control by the person on top! Thus it was a very good decision to not appoint 29 year veteran Acting Chief as the new Chief. There is no indication of any change at Fullerton PD other than those charged with actual criminal offenses being kicked out! In fact, the promotion of Andy Goodrich to Lieutenant speaks for the “new improved” model of policing. Goodrich spoke the party line over and over in the K. Thomas case and despite his many misleading public comments as the PIO, he was promoted. Not a promising system for correcting excesses!

By: Fullerton Lover

Fullerton Lover — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:34:24 +0000

So your telling us that this document that I found on the city of Fullerton website the other day is a pack of lies?

How so?

Please be specific as to which page or what part of the document that I linked is a mis-representation of the truth.

http://cityoffullerton.com/weblink8/1/doc/482592/Page1.aspx