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		<title>By: Johnny Donut</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-137107</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Donut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which law office? Tell us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which law office? Tell us!</p>
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		<title>By: Yowza here comes the mail</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-137106</link>
		<dc:creator>Yowza here comes the mail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of campaign mailers, 3 pieces from Fitzgerald today two color ones and one envelope, sorry Jen, I do not bother to open envelopes from candidates in any race.

Plus a nice one from Mr. B about which candidates want to return my money from the illegal water tax of the last several years. 

And boom, a huge Flory one.  Ms Flory I would not vote for you or Alvarez if you held a gun to my head, oh yeah you guys could probably do that since you are in bed with the FPD. 

Ms. Flory, a friend of mine said she found some Whitaker and Levinson signs in the trash bin behind an attorneys office on Brea Blvd this week.  Ah, police breaking the laws and now attorneys breaking the law, it&#039;s a sad day in the neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of campaign mailers, 3 pieces from Fitzgerald today two color ones and one envelope, sorry Jen, I do not bother to open envelopes from candidates in any race.</p>
<p>Plus a nice one from Mr. B about which candidates want to return my money from the illegal water tax of the last several years. </p>
<p>And boom, a huge Flory one.  Ms Flory I would not vote for you or Alvarez if you held a gun to my head, oh yeah you guys could probably do that since you are in bed with the FPD. </p>
<p>Ms. Flory, a friend of mine said she found some Whitaker and Levinson signs in the trash bin behind an attorneys office on Brea Blvd this week.  Ah, police breaking the laws and now attorneys breaking the law, it&#8217;s a sad day in the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Umm</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-137105</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the Cop Unions paid for all these anti Whitaker and Kiger ads, someone has to speak up for the Cops who do support them and cannot speak up for fear of retribution from the Union Goons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Cop Unions paid for all these anti Whitaker and Kiger ads, someone has to speak up for the Cops who do support them and cannot speak up for fear of retribution from the Union Goons.</p>
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		<title>By: Umm</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-137100</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg, move to Fullerton if you want to see the original, nope on second thought, please don&#039;t]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, move to Fullerton if you want to see the original, nope on second thought, please don&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-136736</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If police is serving the city and city council, what is this picture but an act of insubordination?

Fullerton cops (how many, 170?) shouldn&#039;t forget they are like fleas on a big kind dog - Fullerton residents (170,000?).
It&#039;s actually very easy for the big kind dog to scratch the fleas out.

&quot;Just do it!&quot; - Nike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If police is serving the city and city council, what is this picture but an act of insubordination?</p>
<p>Fullerton cops (how many, 170?) shouldn&#8217;t forget they are like fleas on a big kind dog &#8211; Fullerton residents (170,000?).<br />
It&#8217;s actually very easy for the big kind dog to scratch the fleas out.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just do it!&#8221; &#8211; Nike</p>
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		<title>By: Yes</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-136544</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It always is.  You lose a level of your local control with OCSD.  Pluses and minuses to keeping FPD or going OCSD.  They just have to all be looked on based on what the future council wants, and then move forward.  Moving forward being the most important key once the elections are over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always is.  You lose a level of your local control with OCSD.  Pluses and minuses to keeping FPD or going OCSD.  They just have to all be looked on based on what the future council wants, and then move forward.  Moving forward being the most important key once the elections are over.</p>
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		<title>By: Seasoned Political Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-136537</link>
		<dc:creator>Seasoned Political Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an argument against going OCSD then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an argument against going OCSD then.</p>
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		<title>By: Yes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Police review board is jumping too far ahead.  If you go OCSD you won&#039;t be able to just implement a police review in the City.  Make the decision about keeping FPD before you look into a police review board. Waste of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police review board is jumping too far ahead.  If you go OCSD you won&#8217;t be able to just implement a police review in the City.  Make the decision about keeping FPD before you look into a police review board. Waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Seasoned Political Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/have-they-gone-too-far/#comment-136523</link>
		<dc:creator>Seasoned Political Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She is working with Kiger on a police review board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is working with Kiger on a police review board.</p>
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		<title>By: Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She might be the lesser of two evils but I do like her positions on the issues below:

(1)	Do not like her position on not supporting the band on the FPD . . . such demonstrates she forms a bias without all the facts.  (Should be conditional on the facts she believes to be true but would be open to change her mind based on an independent study of the issue)

(a) She does not know how much it will cost to outsource the police function.  How can she make an informed decision without such information?  

Fullerton does not exist to give policemen and other people jobs and if the police function can be outsourced for much less that what the FPD costs while maintaining an acceptable level of control, then the government officials have a DUTY to outsource thereby spending the tax payer money wisely.  

(b) Outsourcing does not “chain the unborn” to decisions of a current corrupt government.  By outsourcing and eliminating the public sector unions, Kids of tomorrow will have an option on how they will be policed when they are grown.  The current unethical government in Fullerton has put the next few generations of children in chains and made the FPD their masters. 

(2)	Clean up downtown:  Cleaning up downtown is a good idea but restricting liquor licenses is not the way to go.  Such only makes existing liquor licenses (such as the Slidebar’s) more valuable.  Clean up downtown by finding a way to close down establishments like the Slidebar, not helping them by making their establishment more valuable through government regulation. 

(3)	Pension Reform:  I like that she sees a need for pension reform but her reforms do not go far enough.  But such is a step in the right direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She might be the lesser of two evils but I do like her positions on the issues below:</p>
<p>(1)	Do not like her position on not supporting the band on the FPD . . . such demonstrates she forms a bias without all the facts.  (Should be conditional on the facts she believes to be true but would be open to change her mind based on an independent study of the issue)</p>
<p>(a) She does not know how much it will cost to outsource the police function.  How can she make an informed decision without such information?  </p>
<p>Fullerton does not exist to give policemen and other people jobs and if the police function can be outsourced for much less that what the FPD costs while maintaining an acceptable level of control, then the government officials have a DUTY to outsource thereby spending the tax payer money wisely.  </p>
<p>(b) Outsourcing does not “chain the unborn” to decisions of a current corrupt government.  By outsourcing and eliminating the public sector unions, Kids of tomorrow will have an option on how they will be policed when they are grown.  The current unethical government in Fullerton has put the next few generations of children in chains and made the FPD their masters. </p>
<p>(2)	Clean up downtown:  Cleaning up downtown is a good idea but restricting liquor licenses is not the way to go.  Such only makes existing liquor licenses (such as the Slidebar’s) more valuable.  Clean up downtown by finding a way to close down establishments like the Slidebar, not helping them by making their establishment more valuable through government regulation. </p>
<p>(3)	Pension Reform:  I like that she sees a need for pension reform but her reforms do not go far enough.  But such is a step in the right direction.</p>
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