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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122614</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122613</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s purges now, is it?  Only to be expected, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s purges now, is it?  Only to be expected, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122612</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The AOCDS guy got an ovation at tonight&#039;s meeting when he said that he supported the FPD staying intact.  So keep waiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AOCDS guy got an ovation at tonight&#8217;s meeting when he said that he supported the FPD staying intact.  So keep waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122611</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You &quot;heard&quot; that, did you?  Was this from a talking cat, seven-headed snake, or what other hallucination?

That&#039;s just weird -- although I did see some of the campaign lit in question there, and it did not mention closing down the FPD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You &#8220;heard&#8221; that, did you?  Was this from a talking cat, seven-headed snake, or what other hallucination?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just weird &#8212; although I did see some of the campaign lit in question there, and it did not mention closing down the FPD.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122610</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually I did read a bit of it for my writing.  We had some in the office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I did read a bit of it for my writing.  We had some in the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122609</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it was raised at a meeting.  What I doubt is that it was in voter&#039;s heads.  One mention at a meeting doesn&#039;t mean squat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it was raised at a meeting.  What I doubt is that it was in voter&#8217;s heads.  One mention at a meeting doesn&#8217;t mean squat.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122608</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Yorba Linda seems to be enjoying their switch.

One thing going for the OCSD -- slower response time to Fullerton means that they&#039;re less likely to have to interact with criminals, who are likely to be already gone.

Last paragraph is weird.  I never denied that.  I was referring to future pension obligations, as are you in your second paragraph.

If the supposed problem is bloated management, why not negotiate an end to management bloat in the next contract?

Oh, I know -- it won&#039;t work unless Fullerton can threaten to go with the OCSD if the FPOA doesn&#039;t go along, right?  Too bad that the Sheriff&#039;s Deputies rep said tonight that they&#039;re not interested.

If it&#039;s management bloat that&#039;s the problem, then focus the discussion on management bloat, naming names as to what positions warrant elimination.  Much easier than the nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Yorba Linda seems to be enjoying their switch.</p>
<p>One thing going for the OCSD &#8212; slower response time to Fullerton means that they&#8217;re less likely to have to interact with criminals, who are likely to be already gone.</p>
<p>Last paragraph is weird.  I never denied that.  I was referring to future pension obligations, as are you in your second paragraph.</p>
<p>If the supposed problem is bloated management, why not negotiate an end to management bloat in the next contract?</p>
<p>Oh, I know &#8212; it won&#8217;t work unless Fullerton can threaten to go with the OCSD if the FPOA doesn&#8217;t go along, right?  Too bad that the Sheriff&#8217;s Deputies rep said tonight that they&#8217;re not interested.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s management bloat that&#8217;s the problem, then focus the discussion on management bloat, naming names as to what positions warrant elimination.  Much easier than the nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122607</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that it would; that just seems to be the supposed purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that it would; that just seems to be the supposed purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122606</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course I do.  I pay office rent and do most of my shopping in Fullerton, along with various parking fees and such, &quot;Kimchi Boogaloo.&quot;

I&#039;ve never talked to the FPOA about donations to the Quirk campaign (or my own.)  I&#039;ve made clear, I think, what I DO care about with respect to FPD: good and effective policing respectful of civil rights and liberties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I do.  I pay office rent and do most of my shopping in Fullerton, along with various parking fees and such, &#8220;Kimchi Boogaloo.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never talked to the FPOA about donations to the Quirk campaign (or my own.)  I&#8217;ve made clear, I think, what I DO care about with respect to FPD: good and effective policing respectful of civil rights and liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/do-the-math/#comment-122605</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then given that OCSD pension costs are higher, as discussed at today&#039;s meeting, where is the supposed savings?  Seriously, this seems incredible.  How does the city save on pensions by paying higher pensions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then given that OCSD pension costs are higher, as discussed at today&#8217;s meeting, where is the supposed savings?  Seriously, this seems incredible.  How does the city save on pensions by paying higher pensions?</p>
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