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		<title>By: Americal68</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-121638</link>
		<dc:creator>Americal68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so you jumpin up or just talking crap?  thought so piggie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you jumpin up or just talking crap?  thought so piggie</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-121513</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[crickets.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crickets&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120983</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCCB..See if you get a reponse. I didnt yesterday when I asked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCCB..See if you get a reponse. I didnt yesterday when I asked.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Chillin' Cop Balls</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120978</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Chillin' Cop Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want honesty and accountability.  How about answering these questions:

Chris Thompson was one of the most vocal critics of the Police Department and the old City Council, with most of his criticism focused on an alleged lack of transparency and coverup by the PD.

Thompson went on to be the campaign manager of now-City Council member Travis Kiger, who was also a frequent and vocal critic regarding lack of transparency and an alleged coverup by the police department.

And now we have these incidents, which raise so many questions.

Regarding the first incident:

1.  Why did Thompson report the first incident directly to the police chief?  Was he looking for preferential treatment?  Was it because he didn&#039;t want his phone call to be recorded through the 911 or business line?  Why wouldn&#039;t he have just reported it to dispatch to get a patrol car there as quickly as possible?

2.  Why would he initiate a confrontation in the parking lot rather than wait for a patrol car?

3.  I&#039;d like to know more about the pursuit.  What speeds were reached?  Were traffic laws broken?  Did Thompson stop at the stop sign at Rolling Hills Drive &amp; Puente Street?  What about any red lights at Rolling Hills Drive and Brea Blvd?

4.  Was a report taken regarding this incident?  If not, why not, as Thompson made allegations of a statutory rape (Penal Code Section 261.5) having occurred?

5.  If an officer responded and had contact with Thompson, where are the recordings of the contact?

Regarding the second incident on July 8th:

1.  Who called the police?  Where is the recording of the call?  After all, much has been made by Kiger regarding the releasing of the 911 tape on Kelly Thomas.  Why isn&#039;t it appropriate to release this call, too, in a timely manner, especially if there is no pending investigation?

2.  Thompson responded to a verbal barrage by the minor with a physical push.  Technically, that&#039;s a battery (Penal Code Section 242) involving a minor, which could also possibly be construed as a misdemeanor violation of Penal Code Section 273a(a) (Child Abuse).  At the very least it should have been documented, since it involved an adult and a minor.  The minor also may have violated Penal Code Section 422 through his threats.  Was a report taken at this time?  If not, why not?

3.  Where are the recordings of the officer contact at this incident?

For Kiger:

1.  Explain why it was appropriate for you to notify Thompson of a public records request by Fullerton Stories regarding these incidents.

2.  Why are the police reports not being released?  If any minors were identified, why not just redact the report to eliminate any information which might identify the minor(s)?

3.  Why can&#039;t you immediately release recordings of any calls made in reference to these incidents just like you did with the Kelly Thomas recording?

4.  Since this involved city business, why shouldn&#039;t any and all phone records regarding your call to Thompson, and any subsequent call on the subject, should be made public?

After all, if an incident like this occurred involving any of the three recalled council members, Kiger, Thompson, and Bushala would be asking for all this and more.  Isn&#039;t it more than a little hypocritical for such &quot;transparent&quot; politicians like Kiger and Thompson not to be forthcoming with this information?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want honesty and accountability.  How about answering these questions:</p>
<p>Chris Thompson was one of the most vocal critics of the Police Department and the old City Council, with most of his criticism focused on an alleged lack of transparency and coverup by the PD.</p>
<p>Thompson went on to be the campaign manager of now-City Council member Travis Kiger, who was also a frequent and vocal critic regarding lack of transparency and an alleged coverup by the police department.</p>
<p>And now we have these incidents, which raise so many questions.</p>
<p>Regarding the first incident:</p>
<p>1.  Why did Thompson report the first incident directly to the police chief?  Was he looking for preferential treatment?  Was it because he didn&#8217;t want his phone call to be recorded through the 911 or business line?  Why wouldn&#8217;t he have just reported it to dispatch to get a patrol car there as quickly as possible?</p>
<p>2.  Why would he initiate a confrontation in the parking lot rather than wait for a patrol car?</p>
<p>3.  I&#8217;d like to know more about the pursuit.  What speeds were reached?  Were traffic laws broken?  Did Thompson stop at the stop sign at Rolling Hills Drive &amp; Puente Street?  What about any red lights at Rolling Hills Drive and Brea Blvd?</p>
<p>4.  Was a report taken regarding this incident?  If not, why not, as Thompson made allegations of a statutory rape (Penal Code Section 261.5) having occurred?</p>
<p>5.  If an officer responded and had contact with Thompson, where are the recordings of the contact?</p>
<p>Regarding the second incident on July 8th:</p>
<p>1.  Who called the police?  Where is the recording of the call?  After all, much has been made by Kiger regarding the releasing of the 911 tape on Kelly Thomas.  Why isn&#8217;t it appropriate to release this call, too, in a timely manner, especially if there is no pending investigation?</p>
<p>2.  Thompson responded to a verbal barrage by the minor with a physical push.  Technically, that&#8217;s a battery (Penal Code Section 242) involving a minor, which could also possibly be construed as a misdemeanor violation of Penal Code Section 273a(a) (Child Abuse).  At the very least it should have been documented, since it involved an adult and a minor.  The minor also may have violated Penal Code Section 422 through his threats.  Was a report taken at this time?  If not, why not?</p>
<p>3.  Where are the recordings of the officer contact at this incident?</p>
<p>For Kiger:</p>
<p>1.  Explain why it was appropriate for you to notify Thompson of a public records request by Fullerton Stories regarding these incidents.</p>
<p>2.  Why are the police reports not being released?  If any minors were identified, why not just redact the report to eliminate any information which might identify the minor(s)?</p>
<p>3.  Why can&#8217;t you immediately release recordings of any calls made in reference to these incidents just like you did with the Kelly Thomas recording?</p>
<p>4.  Since this involved city business, why shouldn&#8217;t any and all phone records regarding your call to Thompson, and any subsequent call on the subject, should be made public?</p>
<p>After all, if an incident like this occurred involving any of the three recalled council members, Kiger, Thompson, and Bushala would be asking for all this and more.  Isn&#8217;t it more than a little hypocritical for such &#8220;transparent&#8221; politicians like Kiger and Thompson not to be forthcoming with this information?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120796</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Nipsey. It&#039;s only cops and their wives/mistresses who hide behind multiple screen names on here. Everyone else wants honesty and accountability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nipsey. It&#8217;s only cops and their wives/mistresses who hide behind multiple screen names on here. Everyone else wants honesty and accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120795</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I concur Tuco. I figured the new council could use their authority to establish an oversight committee that was ran completely by citizens rather than cops or politicians.

LMAO @ Cicinelli and Ramos suing anyone. Unless they are planning on suing the men who violate their arses in prison, I doubt their suits will go very far. Thanks for the laugh though Time. This blog gets too serious sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur Tuco. I figured the new council could use their authority to establish an oversight committee that was ran completely by citizens rather than cops or politicians.</p>
<p>LMAO @ Cicinelli and Ramos suing anyone. Unless they are planning on suing the men who violate their arses in prison, I doubt their suits will go very far. Thanks for the laugh though Time. This blog gets too serious sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: nipsey</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120792</link>
		<dc:creator>nipsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, I thought &quot;Joe sipowicz&quot; was actually Tony, now he&#039;s not Tony (the evil puppet master) but in fact he&#039;s some lackey who wants to curry favor with council members? 

Christ, could you morons get organized and just pick one lie and run with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I thought &#8220;Joe sipowicz&#8221; was actually Tony, now he&#8217;s not Tony (the evil puppet master) but in fact he&#8217;s some lackey who wants to curry favor with council members? </p>
<p>Christ, could you morons get organized and just pick one lie and run with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sipowicz</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120671</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sipowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that way we don&#039;t get stuck with staff-kissing drones who aren&#039;t responsible to anybody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that way we don&#8217;t get stuck with staff-kissing drones who aren&#8217;t responsible to anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Late again, huh?</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120670</link>
		<dc:creator>Late again, huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh boy, one whole day&#039;s notice! Thanks a lot, Travis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy, one whole day&#8217;s notice! Thanks a lot, Travis.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/commissions-and-committees/#comment-120599</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wish I lived in Fullerton. I have a degree in environmental analysis and a minor in Urban N Regional Planning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I lived in Fullerton. I have a degree in environmental analysis and a minor in Urban N Regional Planning.</p>
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