A Double Dose of FPD Disgrace: Sex Assault Settlement and A Killer Goes Free


A couple nights ago KTLA served up a two-course menu with back to back stories on FPD disgraces. First they dove into Officer Albert Rincon’s sex assault case, where David Begnaud discovered that the city was planning to settle the Federal rights case with two of the seven women who say Rincon sexually assaulted them during wrongful arrests; followed by the report that somehow accused FPD murderer Manny Ramos was out on bail. Yay! More  good news for the people of Fullerton.

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You would think the folks over in City Hall would be getting just a little bit tired of all the horrific news coverage they’ve been getting, and start to clean up the mess they’ve made.

However, if you thought that you would be wrong. That is because nobody is in charge in City Hall. The monkeys have been permitted to run the zoo.

 

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  1. #1 by Chris on October 1, 2011

    It just keeps getting worse and worse. The sad thing is that most people had probably never even heard of Fullerton before all this. Now, the only thing they will know about it is that it’s one of the most corrupt cities in the country.

  2. #2 by STAND UP on October 1, 2011

    fullerton pd is sham!!!
    I feel pity for all the good hardworking taxpayer that have put up with all the shenanegians

  3. #3 by retiree on October 1, 2011

    I will detour fullerton when in Ca. I am touring the west coast and I will stay clear. I don’t need to be hassled and have my savings taken away from me by the outlaws in your city. Fullerton is like Dodge city in the wild west. Scary the cops own the cityand won’t let go.

  4. #4 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    I want this fully investigated *shifty eyes*

    – Sharon Quirk-Silva (as if she wasnt aware of this).

    Sharon Quirk-Silva is full of gas. She needs to go next election.

  5. #5 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    The city looks like a dump when you drive into it from the 91.

    Outside the downtown area, the rest of the city looks jacked up, especially the business areas and the neglected roads.

  6. #6 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    If you look at most cities, in-depth that is, you will find some sort of corruption going on. It is too bad that those who were entrusted with the every day operation of cities and the such, cannot be honest and trustworthy.

  7. #7 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Who cares – not the residents themselves or there’d be much greater numbers at the protests, more names on the recall list by now, etc. They won’t notice their town’s tarnished reputation either..

  8. #8 by Get real on October 1, 2011

    http://protectfullerton-recallno.com/community_speak_out_details.php?id=9

    This link is to an article on Protect Fullerton.com. It’s a feeble attempt to make excuses about the lack of leadership of the three blind mice. They are attempting to sway the public into thinking we are all mislead about the Thomas beating and what a great job council has done.

  9. #9 by Chris on October 1, 2011

    9c1copcar :If you look at most cities, in-depth that is, you will find some sort of corruption going on. It is too bad that those who were entrusted with the every day operation of cities and the such, cannot be honest and trustworthy.

    Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I’m sure every city does have their own skeletons in the closet and has corruption. I don’t want to say where I live, but let’s just say I live in southern California, in the Inland Empire. I know about some corruption in my city too, and in fact I personally know of once city council member who I and many other people are pretty sure is corrupt and might even be taking bribes, based on some decisions he has made at council meetings.

    But even my city isn’t corrupt to this level. Not even close. Heck, compared to Fullerton my city is fairly clean.

  10. #10 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    Quick-Silver’s been a councilwoman since 2004- what has she been doing?

  11. #11 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    This next week should be a doozy for the city council with a city council meeting on Tuesday and a John & Ken at Fullerton City Hall. Can’t wait!!!

  12. #12 by The Fullerton Harpoon on October 1, 2011

    That was that awful crap created by the stooge David Whiting. We dismembered that corpse about eight weeks ago.

  13. #13 by Johnny Donut on October 1, 2011

    Handing out socks.

  14. #14 by The Fullerton Harpoon on October 1, 2011

    Didn’t you know? Fullerton is the new west. HeeHaw said so.

  15. #15 by The Fullerton Harpoon on October 1, 2011

    That is a damn good question!!

  16. #16 by Joe Sipowicz on October 1, 2011

    I’m about to train my sights on Ms. “Quick-Silver.”

    On the council for seven years and missed the tell-tale signs. I wonder how many settlements she voted to approve over the years.

  17. #17 by fullerton lover on October 1, 2011

    I’d also like to hear what position the Congresswoman for West Fullerton, Loretta Sanchez has taken on the murder of Kelly Thomas, as well as the sexual assaults of our women by the Fullerton Police department. I haven’t heard a peep out of Loretta Sanchez on any of this, which is truly odd, as she is the one person that I thought would be leading the crusade for these women?

  18. #18 by STAND UP on October 1, 2011

    I love those city coward meetings!!!
    Best entertainment out there.
    Dick jones is fucking hilarious!!!
    Rip his ass apart fullerton

  19. #19 by fullerton lover on October 1, 2011

    I just read that anti-recall link and can tell you that I couldn’t find one ounce of truth in any of the posts? All it did for me was serve as even more reasons for me to want to get these three jackals recalled even quicker before our city is completely ruined.
    RECALL NOW!

  20. #20 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    One of my friends is a chiropractor. Approximately 8 years ago, he had a patient who was hired at my old department as a typist. She was 28 at the time, a part-time model, and a hard working woman. Immediately after her hire, deptuies started flirting with her on a daily basis. A SGT. then started coming around, sitting on her desk, and told her how good she smelled. This was the very person who gave the sexual harrassment classes to everyone.
    To make a long story short, she started complaining to my friend during her treatments. He asked me what she should do. I told him to tell her, the next time she is harrassed, to just say three small letters, I. A. B.. Surprisingly enough, everyone left her alone after that.

  21. #21 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    Fullerton Lover,

    Loretta Sanchez, is like N.O.W.. They could give a s*** about women. They only act if it fits with their political bent.

  22. #22 by StormHarbor on October 1, 2011

    Extreme arrogance will be the downfall of Fullerton PD. The brass stubbornly refuse to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever. They exude an air of infallibility and are loathe to publicly admit that something is deeply flawed within the command structure. This kind of great pride goeth before a very great fall. Instead of vigorously admitting and fixing the problems, they would rather go down in a stubborn blaze of glory while pulling the pillars of Fullerton down in the ash heap with them.

    There needs to be a serious venue for victims of police misconduct to be heard. Otherwise, law suits will continue to be the only recourse for redress of grievances.

  23. #23 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    maybe this will help some http://www.fullerton.edu/advancement/kcet/ocinsight/real_oc/quirk.html

    I would like to know her connection with that do nothing, useless, racist who only likes you if you are hispanic, Loretta Sanchez

  24. #24 by Simmons on October 1, 2011

    Ramos is a piece of human gargabe, no doubt, (assuming he did what he is charged with doing). But in America, we are innocent until proven guilty and Ramos is entitled to bail.

    The FPD needs to go away all of them. The sooner the better.

  25. #25 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 1, 2011

    Presumed innocent.

    It’s not the same thing as ‘being’ innocent.

  26. #26 by anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Too bad Kelly Thomas wasn’t presumed innocent.

    What was Kelly being arrested for anyway? If he was beaten to death while resisting arrest, what was the original charge that he was being arrested for? Sitting on a bus stop bench? There was nothing in the backpack that he allowed the officers to search. So…I don’t get it.

  27. #27 by anonymous on October 1, 2011

    DEAR HONORABLE FPD OFFICER:

    I know there is at least one FPD officer who knows that what is happening at FPD is not right,who does not feel good about it, and does not want to be associated with it. Out of 145 men there is at least one officer with honor and integrity. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND TELL THE TRUTH. TELL WHAT YOU KNOW about the corruption in the department. You could bring this whole mess to a much quicker resolution by coming forward. If you have been thinking about it and are now reading this message, it is a confirmation that it is the right thing for you to do. You will be a hero in the eyes of many if you have the courage of your convictions, break the code of silence which breeds complicity, and come foward with the truth.

  28. #28 by levelthefield on October 1, 2011

    Would it be possible for all you experienced bloggers to educate the rest of us, that are not thumb typers, the definition of some of the abbreviations that you are using such as; IMO, I.A.B.. …………..
    Please!

  29. #29 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    Sorry, I.A.B……Internal Affairs Bureau.

  30. #30 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    IMO = In My Opinion

    IAB = Internal Affairs Bureau

  31. #31 by levelthefield on October 1, 2011

    The District Attorney(DA) interviewed a great number of witnesses, did this number include the entire FPD including Cadets and non-sworn personnel???
    I don’t comprehend the reason for interviewing such a large number of people prior to releasing his report and charging only the two COPS, something STINKS.
    Did the DA conduct a coaching session to precondition potential witnesses for the future legal proceedings????????????

  32. #32 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    So why was there a cop standing outside during the protest? Is this typical? Today was only my 2nd time.

  33. #33 by levelthefield on October 1, 2011

    Thanks for the enlightment of the abbreviations.
    Sure makes communications easier.

  34. #34 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    M.U.R.,

    How many people were at the protest today?

  35. #35 by levelthefield on October 1, 2011

    Protect and Serve is our Motto.

    The cop standing outside was for your PROTECTION, any SERVICE would have been delivered with a billy club.

  36. #36 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    My User Name:

    Yes. Every other protest I have attended there has been Captain Dan Hughes present; he has been the only one except on the Saturday when they decided ti right ‘ticky-tack’ citations for honking horns.

  37. #37 by Sapporo on October 1, 2011

    The Anti-Recall website is a joke. I cringed when i read it.

    Regardless if you are for or against the recall, there is one thing we can all agree on: Fullerton PD officers are fat and out of shape! Manny Ramos is fat pig (no pun intended). Goodrich looks like he owns stock in Krispy Cream Donuts. Can these guys even pass a stress test? Have some basic physical standards for your officers.

  38. #38 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    Many of them couldn’t pass a drug test, a sobriety test, or an Anobolic Steroid test. The certainly couldn’t pass a LIE DETECTOR TEST.

  39. #39 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    to snoop

  40. #40 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    alot couldnt pass a fitness test anf one, in particular couldnt pass an eye exam

  41. #41 by Johnny Donut on October 1, 2011

    Welcome to the Internet. Google it, bro.

  42. #42 by fullerton lover on October 1, 2011

    I think he inherited the Saturday protest franchise from the affable and gregarious Captain Dan Hughes. Captain Hughes has always been pretty much a saint on most Saturday’s, and has always gone beyond the call of duty in ensuring a peaceful dialog with the protesters.

  43. #43 by fullerton lover on October 1, 2011

    You always make me chuckle…thanks!

  44. #44 by Heather on October 1, 2011

    They need to get a good police chief in there that will clean all the cobwebs out. I wonder what else that department is hiding that the public should now about.

  45. #45 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    ok, im just going to vomit now

  46. #46 by 9c1copcar on October 1, 2011

    Cobwebs are what is holding the city council and the FPD together.

  47. #47 by Heather on October 1, 2011

    The police got a call from one of the restraurants in down town Fullerton saying that someone was breaking into cars. That was the initial call.

  48. #48 by FPD=keystone cops on October 1, 2011

    Not enough! Unbelievable that with everything that has come up about the FPD the whole city isnt out there. Murder,molestation and cover ups blatantly in the open and the apathy is mind blowing. Not saying you have to take your whole Sat. (although there are good people doing it every Sat.) a couple of hours wouldnt hurt.

  49. #49 by Mainjet on October 1, 2011

    Eventually KTLA will have to 1/2 hour broadcast after their normal 1/2 hour broadcast just to cover FPD corruption.

  50. #50 by One for the books on October 1, 2011

    Probably so… maybe even one hour!

    What the HELL (with major emphasis on hell) is going on in that city??? It sounds like a free-for-all and no one knows what will happen next!!

  51. #51 by STAND UP on October 1, 2011

    hows the protest going?

  52. #52 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    9c1:

    No clue, I was transfixed by the gorgeous buxom blonde in the black tank top and Jean shorts to notice.

    Lol no seriously, I can’t tell. It seemed about the same as last week, possibly slightly larger.

    I made sure to leave within 2 hours as I didn’t want to risk a ticket for exceeding that time frame.

  53. #53 by The Fullerton Savage on October 1, 2011

    No evidence that such a call was placed has been presented, has it?

  54. #54 by Ja Rule on October 1, 2011

    Of course you are you malignant cunt. Why don’t you do the world a favor and take your own life already?

  55. #55 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    No, he moved away.

  56. #56 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Where is Gloria Alred?

    12 women sexually assaulted by one cop, he still has a job at fpd and she hasnt said jack spit

  57. #57 by STAND UP on October 1, 2011

    so no honking and no loitering over 2hrs?
    fullerton pd are just too much these days.

  58. #58 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Capt Hughes is a good guy from what I hear but Corporal Decaprio seems shady. Acting Chief Hamilton is source of most of the corruption within FPD.

    Hes been there since 1979

  59. #59 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    They’ve been protesting for 3 months now. People are going to lose interest over time but it will build up again.

    The point is people are there.

  60. #60 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    So I take it when you dont see him. Something is about to go down.

  61. #61 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    I was transfixed by the gorgeous buxom blonde in the black tank top and Jean shorts to notice.

    You should work for FPD …if you arent already. PIG.

  62. #62 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    nobody is losing interest -there are going to be weeks when the crowd is small and weeks that it will be large-we aint going away and we arent going to be saying “Kelly who?” in a year (Ive seen that nonsense too) when its raining hard outsideno you may or may not see a big crowd, that doesnt mean we lost interest

  63. #63 by levelthefield on October 1, 2011

    Money–money–and more MONEY
    Money collected by the police department IS NOT turned over to the city general fund.
    Some sources are live scan fees, parking fees and tickets, sales from confiscated property, money taken from drug deals, special patrol services,and more.
    This money is used by the police dept with no oversight or accountability.
    Some expense items may include; paid informants, massage parlors, donuts, lobbyists, favors for special FPD friends,….its a long list.
    The same goes for the Fire Dept and the Fullerton Airport, these three organizations are rotten to the core.
    The corruption is pretty well established through all departments.
    EVERY city contract that has been let in the past 15 years is tainted….

  64. #64 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    I make sure I park less than 13″ from the curb-I saw a video about cops in new york taking out a ruler and measuring cars of people at a recent protestand ticketing them if they were more than 13″ from the curb

  65. #65 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Don’t forget;
    IMHO; in my humble opinion
    and
    IMNTBHO; in my never to be humble opinion

  66. #66 by Anonymous on October 1, 2011

    Are you attending church tomorrow JA rule?
    I recommend it. :)

  67. #67 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    Hughes is a mole for FPD- the devil doesnt walk arond wearing a red suit with a tail and carry a pitchfork or you wouldnt trust him, right?

    and no- JA Rule- you God fearing individual

  68. #68 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Anonymous, why so butthurt over something that was clearlyba joke?

  69. #69 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Anonymous, why so butthurt over something that was clearly a joke?

  70. #70 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Oops @ the dp

  71. #71 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Actually Merijoe I doubt we’d be ticketed but I didn’t want to test the water.

  72. #72 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    Screw it. I’m installing a 132db horn in my car and I’ll be using it!>>

  73. #73 by STAND UP on October 1, 2011

    in covina, ca the parking enforcement car has a little rubber wand that sticks out and if it dont touch the curb, ticket time

    but if you park that far off you should get a tix or better yet some dumb ass driver crashing your ride

  74. #74 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    why take chances-you never know with these buffoons

  75. #75 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    they were ticketing for 13 1/4″ away from the curb

  76. #76 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    On a random side note, I’ve never seen someone suck so bad at attempting to insult people online as Anonymous.

  77. #77 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    really? someone just called me a cunt who should kill myself already

  78. #78 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Wrong Guy: I’ve seriously considered installing a train horn in my car and blasting FPD to kingdom come when I leave the protest. :D

  79. #79 by D on October 1, 2011

    anonymous, “Out of 145 men there is at least one officer with honor and integrity………….You will be a hero in the eyes of many if you have the courage of your convictions, break the code of silence which breeds complicity, and come foward with the truth.”

    Dream on anon…. They’re all afraid of a bullet in the back by the rogue fucks.

  80. #80 by merijoe on October 1, 2011

    that’s exactly what I thought of too-It’s like you’re in the fucking mafia- they kill rats as well as unarmed citizens and get away with it

    Im guessing they’re probably afraid of becoming the next jimmy hoffa

  81. #81 by Great Idea! on October 1, 2011

    Seems to me you’re only there to create problems and make lewd comments about female protesters. I don’t think you have Kelly Thomas in mind.

    The other poster was right to call you what you are, a pig.

  82. #82 by corrupt on October 1, 2011

    My ole lady is pretty good looking too….. she has had CHP officers deliver reports to her office…. unheard of. It is a running joke at her office that she can actually get the CHP to do something..

  83. #83 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    MUR,

    That reminds me of the movie ‘The Mask’ with Jim Carrey when he’s laid out flat in the middle of the road and some driver pulls up and honks his horn telling him to move, then The Mask pulls out a giant aooga horn and the dude’s hair was standing up. lol

  84. #84 by corrupt on October 1, 2011

    Anonymous lay off Marines… kellys dad was once a cop… do not segragate Marines from the fight for justice. Ron Thomas is not. Sissynelli is no longer a Marine and they will not claim a murderer as a Marine….

  85. #85 by Wrong Guy on October 1, 2011

    Corrupt & Anonymous,
    Ron Thomas was also in the Marine’s.

  86. #86 by Honk on October 1, 2011

    Capt hughes is the one who ordered the honkers be cited. Dont believe his fake persona

  87. #87 by Citizen on October 1, 2011

    Agreed. Really unfortunate.

  88. #88 by Citizen on October 1, 2011

    So well put.

  89. #89 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    lol @ “other poster.”

    More like your other username.

  90. #90 by My Username Rocks on October 1, 2011

    Wrong Guy:

    I believe Ron Thomas is a Vietnam vet.

  91. #91 by Citizen on October 1, 2011

    I’ve seen just a couple people comment on this, but is anyone else as outraged and disturbed as I am by the fact that the letter on the Big City Cops page that was posted regarding the collection of bail money for Ramos instructed people to call the front desk of the Fullerton Police Department if they needed to verify his purpose?

    Can you IMAGINE? It’s like if I were to collect money for a political campaign and then let people know they can just call my place of work to verify it…only, in this case, it’s money to bail out a man who is charged with murder…and the company is a government organization that serves to protect its citizens from criminals? In what universe is it okay for a police department to be in any way, shape, or form involved in collecting money for an officer accused of murdering a citizen?

  92. #92 by Citizen on October 1, 2011

    P.S. If I did involve my place of work in collecting money for such a cause, like most people, I can only assume I would be fired immediately.

  93. #93 by Great Idea! on October 2, 2011

    How old are you?

    I don’t know you IRL but you act like an immature ass here. I just have a feeling Kelly Thomas is the last thing on your mind.

  94. #94 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    hes not that old, is he?

  95. #95 by STAND UP on October 2, 2011

    hes not that young either, kelly 37.
    so my guess is 57-early 60s.
    he is sporting grey hair and stache

  96. #96 by We Are All One on October 2, 2011

    Sapporo :
    The Anti-Recall website is a joke. I cringed when i read it.
    Regardless if you are for or against the recall, there is one thing we can all agree on: Fullerton PD officers are fat and out of shape! Manny Ramos is fat pig (no pun intended). Goodrich looks like he owns stock in Krispy Cream Donuts. Can these guys even pass a stress test? Have some basic physical standards for your officers.

    Yeah, like having TWO eyes.

  97. #97 by We Are All One on October 2, 2011

    Citizen :
    I’ve seen just a couple people comment on this, but is anyone else as outraged and disturbed as I am by the fact that the letter on the Big City Cops page that was posted regarding the collection of bail money for Ramos instructed people to call the front desk of the Fullerton Police Department if they needed to verify his purpose?
    Can you IMAGINE? It’s like if I were to collect money for a political campaign and then let people know they can just call my place of work to verify it…only, in this case, it’s money to bail out a man who is charged with murder…and the company is a government organization that serves to protect its citizens from criminals? In what universe is it okay for a police department to be in any way, shape, or form involved in collecting money for an officer accused of murdering a citizen?

    The Good ‘Ol Boys Club universe.

  98. #98 by Ken on October 2, 2011

    Highly doubt that he/she will take the risk of getting fire and won’t be hired by any other police departments.

  99. #99 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    seriously- i would think you need a couple retinas

  100. #100 by TIGERMANLSU on October 2, 2011

    HELLO THERE COP- HELLO THERE FBI- HELLO DOJ-[THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FULLERTON] CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!. THER IS ONLY 2 WAY,S TO BEAT EVIL IN HIGH PLACES!!!!!!!!! 1- FALL DOWN ON YOUR FACE AND PRAY LIKE YOU ARE DIEING WITH YOUR WHOLD HEART AND DON,T STOP TILL GOD MOVE,S. ARE 2 PICK UP YOUR GUN,S. FRIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE!!!!!!!! EIATHER THE HOLY FIRE OF THE LORD. ARE FIRE OF YOUR GUN,S . I FOR ONE PICK PRAYER NOT ALL JUSTICE IS DOLED OUT IN A COURTROOM GOD HIMSLEF WILL TAKE CARE OF EVIL PEOPLE HE,S GOING TO BE RIGHT ON TIME SOON. AMEN .

  101. #101 by Mike @ Here on October 2, 2011

    With all of the missteps,lies,cover ups,lawsuits,misconduct I’m very confident that the Fullerton PD and the city council will be in the news headline for a long time to come. It’s like a habitual criminal who never gets it and keeps fucking up and ending back up in prison. They just don’t get it.

  102. #102 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    “Protect and Serve Ourselves” is more like it.

  103. #103 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    6 more days and 2 murdering cowards in hiding won’t have a paycheck anymore. Their careers are over in law enforcement and anyother profession for that matter. They have become unemployable and a major liability for any company or agency to hire. Manny Ramos and Jay Cicinelli have become household names akin to remorseless murderers that you don’t want your children or defenseless anywhere near around them. Best get to stocking up on Top Ramen soup bitches because your paychecks are about to end!!!

  104. #104 by Jane H on October 2, 2011

    This video is quite amazing. Over 500 protestors were arrested for taking over the Brooklyn Bridge. At 17 seconds in to video you can see a superior officer shaking his finger at a subordinate.
    I wonder what they are concerned about. Maybe a little excessive use of force? A little later, you can see how many cameras are there. Both the protestors and the police are in a frenzy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1tCYAEDl6g&feature=player_embedded

    This is a crazy time we live in. Thank God for technology.

  105. #105 by anonymous on October 2, 2011

    What officer in their right mind would want to be associated with Fullerton PD at this point to come in there as chief? Only someone who is already working for FPD and can’t get a job elsewhere.

  106. #106 by anonymous on October 2, 2011

    Not only that, but did he use FPD resources for what one supposed insider said was a state wide mailing? You know, postage, paper, envelopes, on FPD time? Then using the front desk line to field calls? That was on Fullerton citizen’s dime. Maybe they will give equal time and resources for a mailing on behalf of Kelly Thomas?

  107. #107 by anonymous on October 2, 2011

    Anonymous :Who cares – not the residents themselves or there’d be much greater numbers at the protests, more names on the recall list by now, etc. They won’t notice their town’s tarnished reputation either..

    Some residence fear retribution from corrupt and murderous PD and city government. It doesn’t mean they don’t care.

  108. #108 by anonymous on October 2, 2011

    A phone call is not enough for an arrest. He was “arrested” because he ran away from a cop who was making terroristic threats of bodily harm for 10 or 15 minutes, then when he ran, he was assaulted by Wolfe, who hit him with a baton.

  109. #109 by video witness on October 2, 2011

    Jane H :
    This video is quite amazing. Over 500 protestors were arrested for taking over the Brooklyn Bridge. At 17 seconds in to video you can see a superior officer shaking his finger at a subordinate.
    I wonder what they are concerned about. Maybe a little excessive use of force? A little later, you can see how many cameras are there. Both the protestors and the police are in a frenzy.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1tCYAEDl6g&feature=player_embedded
    This is a crazy time we live in. Thank God for technology.

    jane you are correct. The cameras are irrefutable evidence good and bad in the age of no privacy.
    Recently in Boston Ma a federal judge ruled that video taping cops or public officials is a protected right. The criminals in blue and in power of office will combat this at every level. All of us are in possession of remarkable tools to show the world the crimes that have been covered up. I regret my privacy is compromised. Then again as the FPD says if you innocent you don’t need a lawyer cooperate.

  110. #110 by video witness on October 2, 2011

    anonymous :

    Anonymous :Who cares – not the residents themselves or there’d be much greater numbers at the protests, more names on the recall list by now, etc. They won’t notice their town’s tarnished reputation either..

    Some residence fear retribution from corrupt and murderous PD and city government. It doesn’t mean they don’t care.

    Most people lack the intelligence to see that they are loosing their rights as citizens every day.

  111. #111 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    You mean sitting on a bus bench isn’t a felony?

  112. #112 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Yup. Thats usually what happens when the top personnel levels of a city are torn down and re-built.

    No one knows what the final arrangements will be until all the new pieces are put in place.

  113. #113 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Those that will be offered double salary’s for filling in for their antecedents.

  114. #114 by video witness on October 2, 2011

    One for the books :
    Probably so… maybe even one hour!
    What the HELL (with major emphasis on hell) is going on in that city??? It sounds like a free-for-all and no one knows what will happen next!!

    Watch the NYPD at work led by Capt. Bolagnays pepper spray battalion. That’s what is coming. Detainment camps to process the Fullerton troublemakers.

  115. #115 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Oooo!!!, I like that.

    Can we change the nursery rhymes to:” Better be good or Officer Ramos will get you!”

  116. #116 by Wrong Guy on October 2, 2011

    YOu mean Detainment Camps for the misbehaiving officers of FPD~!

  117. #117 by JustMe on October 2, 2011

    It’s getting to the point that perhaps the Fullerton PD should be charged under RICO Statute as a Continuing Criminal Enterprise.

    A willingness to settle on the 2 sexual groping cases tells us that the city knows there is substance to the allegations and believes there’s a better chance than not that the city will get get KO’ed if it goes before a jury.

    The fact that the cop named in the lawsuit still has a job and is on the city payroll tells us about the protections available to these miscreants. I pray that the women refuse to settle and take this matter all the way to trial. It needs to get exposed so everyone understands the filth and malfeasance that has been promoted by Fullerton PD and the City’s leaders.

  118. #118 by 9c1copcar on October 2, 2011

    Wrong Guy,

    Wish FEDUP and I could have been there yesterday.

  119. #119 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Can you quote the specific case?

    I’ve a transit cop here in my town who’s idea of questioning homeless is browbeating them.

    The case reference would be a good one to have.

    (Of course it was a Boston judge. My old hometown. (-: )

  120. #120 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Justice is an abstract concept.

    The victims have probably been offered a financial settlement that will be life changing in it’s size.

    The cop doesn’t get punished, only the citizens that pay taxes.

  121. #121 by Wrong Guy on October 2, 2011

    Merijoe and I missed you two as well 9c1. We were also hoping to meet RI, through you.
    The first couple hours in the morning were somewhat quieter than normal but it got larger and noisier in the afternoon. They had a NAMI walk in Huntington Beach in the morning which was where Cathy and Ron Thomas were. Cathy came to the protest around noon. It was happening then.
    I attempted to serve a police officer with a restraining order for a young lady who is the wife of this corrupt weasel, but he didn’t show up to where she thought he would, so no serving. Dammit.

  122. #122 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    exzactly – I’m gettin a little sick of trying to help out a town that doesn’t give a shit about itself, maybe the FPD and the majority of Fullerton citizens deserve each other.

  123. #123 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    granted that’s not the issue here, but still..

  124. #124 by blessusall on October 2, 2011

    JustMe :
    It’s getting to the point that perhaps the Fullerton PD should be charged under RICO Statute as a Continuing Criminal Enterprise.
    A willingness to settle on the 2 sexual groping cases tells us that the city knows there is substance to the allegations and believes there’s a better chance than not that the city will get get KO’ed if it goes before a jury.
    The fact that the cop named in the lawsuit still has a job and is on the city payroll tells us about the protections available to these miscreants. I pray that the women refuse to settle and take this matter all the way to trial. It needs to get exposed so everyone understands the filth and malfeasance that has been promoted by Fullerton PD and the City’s leaders.

    They also don’t want the publicity that would come with a trial; more details would then be revealed. So they settle, probably with an agreement that the two will take the money and not talk. Hopefully, some of the other women who have not filed suit, will. Although they may feel unsafe to do that at this point. I know I would.

  125. #125 by 9c1copcar on October 2, 2011

    Wrong Guy,

    Well, FEDUP will hopefully be there Saturday. I am going to be visiting with my 2 wonderful boys. They, and FEDUP, are the lights of my life.

  126. #126 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    You don’t seriously believe RI would show up do you? His good cop/bad cop routine on here ‘where sometimes he sounds like a decent human being’ .. tell me that shit isn’t working oO

  127. #127 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Ummm, you make it sound like you expect someone to thank you for doing what is right.

    O.K. I can live with that

    Thank you.

  128. #128 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    Wrong- what is the name of that Nazi wife beater you are trying to serve? someone at the protest told me of some jackhole copper who is always present and recently tried to loud talk him and accuse him of drinking -as this guy was trying to talk and minister to the homelessiwonder if it was the same guy

  129. #129 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    RI is a devil- dont let this demon bamboozle you – he/she/it is not going to present itself at any protest no matter what is said-

    My theory – hes/she/it is most likely a relative of one of the cops who gets a kid or significant other to write the words on a comment

  130. #130 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    Yeah, you wish-aint going to happen- your brothers responsible for this execution and you classless turds who knew about it yet didnt say anything will be made to pay-not the taxpaying citizens- there’s more than money to consider

    and, bless the Thomas’s, we’re ALL the victims-everyone of us that has to deal daily with the tyranny/fear/terrorism of the Nazi regime here in America and the constant buffoonery/Kronyism

  131. #131 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    trying desperately to stay under the radar and disappear into the background. I wish she was on the recall too, can’t have it all…..next time she is out.

  132. #132 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    “trying desperately to stay under the radar and disappear into the background. I wish she was on the recall too, can’t have it all…..next time she is out.”

    this comment was about Silva, but it could also apply to Sanchez now that I think about it.

    I hope Silva is the next “head on a stick”.

  133. #133 by If the Queen had balls on October 2, 2011

    she’d have been King. If Kenton Hampton was such a “brave” cop like his attorney from Silver, Hayden, Silver & Gold say’s he is, then he would have stopped Cicinelli before and/or during his psychotic rage and would have saved Kelly’s life.

    If Hampton had just done his job, he would have saved Fullerton tax payers millions of $’s and would have saved Ramos & Cicinelli from going to prison.

    http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2011/we-get-mail/

  134. #134 by Wrong Guy on October 2, 2011

    RI seems to now be convinced, since all these ‘real facts’ that we all knew about came to fruition. It seems his belief of the facts are what the final authority has to say. Now that the DA spoke, not to the thug cops satisfaction, he seems to be coming around. I really wouldn’t mind meeting him, whether or not he is and FPD officer. What do either of us have to loose?

  135. #135 by Anonymous on October 2, 2011

    noose bamboozle moose

  136. #136 by Paul on October 2, 2011

    How did a nice city like Fullerton get to be so corrupt? Personally I think its a combo of developer and pub owner money getting old sleepy lookin guys on the city council, then a slow long period of looking the other way when problems occur like overspending, budgets, rules, contracts, etc. It shows that you cannot go with the flow or your flow will become cut off!
    Just too many problems in that city to simply say, “I didn’t know”!

  137. #137 by Paul on October 2, 2011

    Manny and Cyclops are out on bail. Instead of cutting off their pay, both of these guys with stellar records should be back patrolling! Remember Innocent until proven guilty! How is Manny goin to feed those 5 kids? How is Cyclops gonna be able to afford Laser Surgery on his “good” eye? They need jobs! And by the way, when is their chief of police gonna come back to work so he can rehire them? Been out over a month. He must be awful sick! Maybe he will donate part of his sick pay to help out Manny and Cyclops in their time of need?

  138. #138 by Tom on October 2, 2011

    Business 101, disband the FPD, hire OCSD. The cost savings will pay for most or all of the lawsuits including Officer Chester Molester.

  139. #139 by One more.. on October 2, 2011

    Do you have a follow up on the cop who was caught stealing in iPad at the Miami Airport?

  140. #140 by merijoe on October 2, 2011

    or donate his retinas to CiCi so he can work as a copper

  141. #141 by Old Timer on October 2, 2011

    The difficulties that are faced in order to fire bad teachers as well as police and fire miscreants are just as insidious within City Hall. The role that Fullerton municipal employees and managers played needs to be noted. The corruption that developers and bar owners were able to wield in Fullerton was channeled through the employees of the Fullerton Redevelopment Agency and the Planning Department. These self riteous employees (many of us know the names) would only advance projects and give gifts if the results would glorify their own self image. They played with our tax increments like it was theirs to spend as they saw fit. This recurrent theme has dominated FRA budgets and project approvals since at least the late 70′s. It was a sick era that was ruled by the manipulations of the Directors and Managers of those Departments and City Managers who couldn’t control them. But the real culprits were not just the “board” ie, City Council members who failed to oversee that free for all. No, it is the vast majority of the electorate who vote for the same old good boys that are backed by the same public employees cheeerleaders and Chamber of Commerce status quo cronies. And then they spend our money on signs and plaques that raise homage to themselves; “Brought to you by Redevelopment”. As if they found the money on their own little secret tree. And to those of you who don’t want to believe that, I suggest you go back and take a real close look at General Colin Powell’s “aluminum tubes” presentation to the UN. Of course, government knows best and always does the right thing.

  142. #142 by My Username Rox on October 2, 2011

    When at this last protest, I saw a pic of Hampton on a sign. I was pretty shocked to learn he’s black.

    I would think that being a member of a race that has experienced more than their fair share of bad blood, brutality, etc. at the hands of police would give him a unique perspective and perhaps some sensitivity towards the issue.

    Guess not.

  143. #143 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    “Presumed innocent” for the legal arguments.

    And if all the evidence that is said to be out there is out there, then it won’t be a hard presumption to overcome.

    If the family has issues, then it’s the fault of the officers charged. Everyone else that gets into legal trouble is told by the police when they are feeling sanctimonious (Which is often, but thats another story.), “You should have thought of that before you did __________(fill in appropriate bad thing done.)

    This is where their “brothers in arms” can help. They raised his bail. Now let them feed his family. If they won’t, then they can go to the food banks like the 14 million other Americans that are out of work. I’ll bet supporting their families gets old for them very quickly.

    Death has a way of making others stand up on their hind legs and take notice.

    (Or am I responding the satire I don’t understand again? (-: )

  144. #144 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    The responsibility falls on the heads of those that don’t get involved and don’t vote.

    Advanced citizenship, remember.

    If you don’t run for office and don’t vote, you get exactly the kind of government you deserve.

    Don’t like what you get? Then vote, or just shut up.

  145. #145 by Disgusted on October 2, 2011

    Pigs are colorblind, not to mention dim-witted.

  146. #146 by Jeffrey Castaline on October 2, 2011

    Personally perceived payback?

  147. #147 by annie on October 2, 2011

    My Username Rox :
    When at this last protest, I saw a pic of Hampton on a sign. I was pretty shocked to learn he’s black.
    I would think that being a member of a race that has experienced more than their fair share of bad blood, brutality, etc. at the hands of police would give him a unique perspective and perhaps some sensitivity towards the issue.
    Guess not.

    He’s a big boss man with a gun and a badge. A mean brother.

  148. #148 by annie on October 2, 2011

    What do you think she was given desk duty to play with her Ipad. Anyone else and we’d be arrested and fired from our non-union job. The shit these animals do and get away with is horrifying.

  149. #150 by Sunshine on October 3, 2011

    I hate to tell you this but they can pass a Lie Detector Test. They have a cheat sheet for that as well. Like I said they are ALL corrupt. It’s a publication from Sting Publications. I was amazed of all the cheat sheets they had. Some recruits sat in class and did nothing because they had all this stuff at the tip of their fingertips. Some of use couldn’t beleive it. Understand, the cheaters and the liars were the first hired!!!! They even took diet pills and something called Ripped Fuel to pass the running test and on days that they were still drunk from the night before.

  150. #151 by Anonymous on October 3, 2011

    HOW can a man sexually assault a woman not BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME

    Fullerton… your children pay for his lawsuits

  151. #152 by Simmons on October 3, 2011

    One way to handle and FPD cop . . .
    http://youtu.be/01iMUJhcDZ4

  152. #153 by Hm? on October 3, 2011

    Blacks can be just as cruel as whites.

    Race has nothing to do with it.

  153. #154 by Mainjet on October 3, 2011

    What?

  154. #155 by Los Angeles Times on October 3, 2011

  155. #156 by Fullerton on October 3, 2011

    We have to stand up and clean up before these crooks destroy Fullerton.
    Prosecute the enteprise criminals. Recall the Incompetent and Protectors.
    Make sure they never “Protect and Serve” the public again.

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