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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9285</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No takers?  Well I admit I&#039;m artistically challenged.  Mr. &quot;Rain,&quot; maybe you could help me envision...

How can we best celebrate, in sculptural form, 3 to 4 million Vietnamese dead from both sides, 1.5 to 2 million Laotians and Cambodians, and 58,159 U.S. soldiers, for what?  That&#039;s right, we need to give a reminder of what we learned about the &quot;domino theory&quot; - that all the rest of Asia would turn Communist if we let Vietnam choose its own destiny.  There is probably some way we could depict some faulty domino system sculpturally, that would get that across.  One thing that did happen due to our involvement there was the genocidal rampage of Pol Pot in neighboring Cambodia.  Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge totally need to be portrayed in the memorial somewhere.  As well as the Vietcong&#039;s heroic overthrow of them.

Also can we somehow get across - since we&#039;re discussing &quot;lessons learned&quot; - the complete lack of trust Americans (usually) have in their Government&#039;s warhawk pronouncements?  It&#039;s probably a good thing, that the trust has been so breached with a Government so totally owned by the Military-Industrial Complex.  The Vietnam Syndrome we have always called it.  &quot;Light at the end of the tunnel?&quot;  Maybe with a circle and slash across it.  Hello?  Throw me a bone here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No takers?  Well I admit I&#8217;m artistically challenged.  Mr. &#8220;Rain,&#8221; maybe you could help me envision&#8230;</p>
<p>How can we best celebrate, in sculptural form, 3 to 4 million Vietnamese dead from both sides, 1.5 to 2 million Laotians and Cambodians, and 58,159 U.S. soldiers, for what?  That&#8217;s right, we need to give a reminder of what we learned about the &#8220;domino theory&#8221; &#8211; that all the rest of Asia would turn Communist if we let Vietnam choose its own destiny.  There is probably some way we could depict some faulty domino system sculpturally, that would get that across.  One thing that did happen due to our involvement there was the genocidal rampage of Pol Pot in neighboring Cambodia.  Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge totally need to be portrayed in the memorial somewhere.  As well as the Vietcong&#8217;s heroic overthrow of them.</p>
<p>Also can we somehow get across &#8211; since we&#8217;re discussing &#8220;lessons learned&#8221; &#8211; the complete lack of trust Americans (usually) have in their Government&#8217;s warhawk pronouncements?  It&#8217;s probably a good thing, that the trust has been so breached with a Government so totally owned by the Military-Industrial Complex.  The Vietnam Syndrome we have always called it.  &#8220;Light at the end of the tunnel?&#8221;  Maybe with a circle and slash across it.  Hello?  Throw me a bone here?</p>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9263</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... a depiction of the My Lai Massacre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; a depiction of the My Lai Massacre?</p>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9262</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a reminder of the lessons that the Vietnam War taught us.&quot;

That will certainly be interesting - are they planning, in the form of sculpture, to express the idea of the folly of imperialism, the cruelty of &quot;bombing a people back to the Stone Age?&quot;  The impossibility of conducting a counterinsurgency when your supposed governmental partner is both inept and corrupt - that will be a good lesson for today!  As will the whole idea of trying to wage a war against guerillas who blend right in with the vast population that supports them.  This should be a very interesting-looking memorial.  Will it include napalm, Agent Orange?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a reminder of the lessons that the Vietnam War taught us.&#8221;</p>
<p>That will certainly be interesting &#8211; are they planning, in the form of sculpture, to express the idea of the folly of imperialism, the cruelty of &#8220;bombing a people back to the Stone Age?&#8221;  The impossibility of conducting a counterinsurgency when your supposed governmental partner is both inept and corrupt &#8211; that will be a good lesson for today!  As will the whole idea of trying to wage a war against guerillas who blend right in with the vast population that supports them.  This should be a very interesting-looking memorial.  Will it include napalm, Agent Orange?</p>
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		<title>By: just a guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9259</link>
		<dc:creator>just a guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zing!</description>
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		<title>By: Fred L. Olmsted</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9245</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred L. Olmsted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Norby, nobody said it was your &quot;last vote.&quot; Just your last obnoxious one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Norby, nobody said it was your &#8220;last vote.&#8221; Just your last obnoxious one.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9241</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, we owe you a post reflecting your last vote on the Sheriff&#039;s Harbor Patrol Boondoggle, I&#039;ll work on it tonight. 

Congratulations on your victory!

Goo...Hor...Net...s....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, we owe you a post reflecting your last vote on the Sheriff&#8217;s Harbor Patrol Boondoggle, I&#8217;ll work on it tonight. </p>
<p>Congratulations on your victory!</p>
<p>Goo&#8230;Hor&#8230;Net&#8230;s&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Norby</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9239</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Norby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the bashing I&#039;m taking over this, but it wasn&#039;t my &quot;final vote.&quot;

The last item voted on was a performance audit of the Sheriff&#039;s Harbor Patrol. 

$6.9 million in OC Park funds are diverted annually to this subsidized AAA-type service to boat owners at Huntington and Newport Harbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the bashing I&#8217;m taking over this, but it wasn&#8217;t my &#8220;final vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last item voted on was a performance audit of the Sheriff&#8217;s Harbor Patrol. </p>
<p>$6.9 million in OC Park funds are diverted annually to this subsidized AAA-type service to boat owners at Huntington and Newport Harbors.</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome to the Monkeyhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welcome to the Monkeyhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With hippies and commies hiding behind every shrub, the World of Rain is a place of bizzare wonderment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With hippies and commies hiding behind every shrub, the World of Rain is a place of bizzare wonderment.</p>
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		<title>By: 'Namster</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9228</link>
		<dc:creator>'Namster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was such a big deal then you and your family will no doubt be supporting this thing financially. 

You can go down and visit along with the other memorials in the area.

P.S. Norby was one of those full of shit hippies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was such a big deal then you and your family will no doubt be supporting this thing financially. </p>
<p>You can go down and visit along with the other memorials in the area.</p>
<p>P.S. Norby was one of those full of shit hippies!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/chris-norbys-final-obnoxious-vote/#comment-9226</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-9225&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9225&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rain&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;The Viet Nam War was a big deal to my family and to me. Not the full of shit hippies but the guys who fought and died in it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So Rain how many memorials must the taxpayers fund in Little Saigon area to satify you then?</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-9225" rel="nofollow">Rain</a> :</strong>The Viet Nam War was a big deal to my family and to me. Not the full of shit hippies but the guys who fought and died in it.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Rain how many memorials must the taxpayers fund in Little Saigon area to satify you then?</p>
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