Comments on: THE STRANGE & TRAGIC TALE OF HILLCREST PARK http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park Friends for Fullerton's Future supports candidates and causes that promote intelligent, responsible and accountable government in Fullerton and Orange County Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:21:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Staff Report http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-10636 Staff Report Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:57:37 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-10636 February 2010 - Hiltscher Park: Typical pattern of severe erosion and the loss of five mature trees. February 2010 – Hiltscher Park: Typical pattern of severe erosion and the loss of five mature trees.

]]> By: The Fullerton Harpoon http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-3295 The Fullerton Harpoon Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:17:05 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-3295 Frank, we don't have "sections" just individual posts that we categorize according to the list at the top right. As you can see there is a "Coyote Hills" category although we haven't posted much on it. I understand that that may change in the future. In the meantime is you want to write a post on the subject, go ahead and then send it to us. If it meets the standards of our editorial board (bar set very low) we'll publish it. Frank, we don’t have “sections” just individual posts that we categorize according to the list at the top right. As you can see there is a “Coyote Hills” category although we haven’t posted much on it. I understand that that may change in the future.

In the meantime is you want to write a post on the subject, go ahead and then send it to us. If it meets the standards of our editorial board (bar set very low) we’ll publish it.

]]> By: Frank http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-3294 Frank Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:53:33 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-3294 When I say some of it looks sweet, I mean the parts about it I've looked at, and I mean the trails and nature preservation features. I thought this was the parks and trails section of the blog. I like that they will respect the gnatcatcher and preserve the original plants, plus remove those that don't belong there. I can't speak for the rest of the development, if I did I'd comment in a different section. When I say some of it looks sweet, I mean the parts about it I’ve looked at, and I mean the trails and nature preservation features. I thought this was the parks and trails section of the blog. I like that they will respect the gnatcatcher and preserve the original plants, plus remove those that don’t belong there.

I can’t speak for the rest of the development, if I did I’d comment in a different section.

]]> By: The Fullerton Harpoon http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-3272 The Fullerton Harpoon Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:06:28 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-3272 "This may sound like heresy on this blog, but there you are." This blog encourages all views, and our Friends include many who would just as soon stop all development up there, and some who welcome development. Each blogger here can lay claim to whatever part of the WCH issue they want. Just tell us why. BTW, development IS NOT inevitable. What is inevitable is that the developer will be paying millions in fees that prop up the City's General Fund, and that, in essence makes the City staff partners in the deal. This is the nasty little secret of big development projects. And one hardly anybody ever talks about. “This may sound like heresy on this blog, but there you are.”

This blog encourages all views, and our Friends include many who would just as soon stop all development up there, and some who welcome development. Each blogger here can lay claim to whatever part of the WCH issue they want. Just tell us why.

BTW, development IS NOT inevitable. What is inevitable is that the developer will be paying millions in fees that prop up the City’s General Fund, and that, in essence makes the City staff partners in the deal. This is the nasty little secret of big development projects. And one hardly anybody ever talks about.

]]> By: admin http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-3269 admin Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:09:14 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-3269 Frank, "We can’t stop this development anyway, we should get all we can from this deal and some of it looks sweet.", thanks for the heads up, what does the not so "sweet" part of Chevrons project look like? Frank, “We can’t stop this development anyway, we should get all we can from this deal and some of it looks sweet.”, thanks for the heads up, what does the not so “sweet” part of Chevrons project look like?

]]> By: Frank http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-3264 Frank Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:18:22 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-3264 There's a Parks and Rec open meeting Monday night 7-27 at City Hall for meeting about Coyote Hills park that's way bigger than Hillcrest. Chevron, yes big oil, has some good ideas they got from people who ride, walk-run the Fullerton trails =see it to believe it, they've shown them to some people already, a friend has sent me photo files. We can't stop this development anyway, we should get all we can from this deal and some of it looks sweet. This may sound like heresy on this blog, but there you are. There’s a Parks and Rec open meeting Monday night 7-27 at City Hall for meeting about Coyote Hills park that’s way bigger than Hillcrest. Chevron, yes big oil, has some good ideas they got from people who ride, walk-run the Fullerton trails =see it to believe it, they’ve shown them to some people already, a friend has sent me photo files. We can’t stop this development anyway, we should get all we can from this deal and some of it looks sweet. This may sound like heresy on this blog, but there you are.

]]> By: Rachel http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-2514 Rachel Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:38:40 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-2514 #16 I remember as a child we never went to the park because they had perverts in the park, this was 43 years ago! #10 They need the restriction, years ago over 20, there was a government subsidized condo project in Laguna Niguel, The buyers were well aware in the contract that should they decided to sell the property it would have to sell a below market price so that way another family may afford it, they could not rent the property because this meant they no longer qualified for low income subsidies. Needless to say some owners cheated the taxpayer and did not abide by contract. If the housing project was not subsidized by the state of California (Cal State = State of California) I would say "Go for it!" But the houses belong to the taxpayers and if anyone is going to have control it should be the taxpayer. In terms of the park I have noticed many people have illegal rental units above their garage, they put plumbing and small kitchens after getting a pass by building code enforcement, I think they should charge a yearly fee to these individuals in addition to the code violations, the fee should be $20 per year to help pay for the park #16 I remember as a child we never went to the park because they had perverts in the park, this was 43 years ago!

#10 They need the restriction, years ago over 20, there was a government subsidized condo project in Laguna Niguel, The buyers were well aware in the contract that should they decided to sell the property it would have to sell a below market price so that way another family may afford it, they could not rent the property because this meant they no longer qualified for low income subsidies. Needless to say some owners cheated the taxpayer and did not abide by contract.
If the housing project was not subsidized by the state of California (Cal State = State of California) I would say “Go for it!” But the houses belong to the taxpayers and if anyone is going to have control it should be the taxpayer.

In terms of the park I have noticed many people have illegal rental units above their garage, they put plumbing and small kitchens after getting a pass by building code enforcement, I think they should charge a yearly fee to these individuals in addition to the code violations, the fee should be $20 per year to help pay for the park

]]> By: admin http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-1473 admin Sat, 02 May 2009 19:08:40 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-1473 Everyone gave up on it - except the perverts. Everyone gave up on it – except the perverts.

]]> By: Travis http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-1472 Travis Sat, 02 May 2009 18:50:51 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-1472 Of all the parks in Fullerton, this one has the most potential. It's large, unique and right in the center of our city. Why has it been overlooked for so long? Of all the parks in Fullerton, this one has the most potential. It’s large, unique and right in the center of our city. Why has it been overlooked for so long?

]]> By: Joe Sipowicz http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/the-strange-tragic-tale-of-hillcrest-park/#comment-627 Joe Sipowicz Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:25:55 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105#comment-627 Travis, the City rents out the "Hillcrest Terrace" to the public. I'm sure the fees are listed on the City website. The real question is why this facility was built in the first place and what function it serves - other than giving Community Services Department a toy to play with. Of course it'll never even pay for itself as the real needs of the park continue to be ignored. Travis, the City rents out the “Hillcrest Terrace” to the public. I’m sure the fees are listed on the City website. The real question is why this facility was built in the first place and what function it serves – other than giving Community Services Department a toy to play with.

Of course it’ll never even pay for itself as the real needs of the park continue to be ignored.

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