Comments on: School Laptops Help Children Find Pornography and Meet Sexual Predators http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/ Friends for Fullerton's Future supports candidates and causes that promote intelligent, responsible and accountable government in Fullerton and Orange County Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:54:59 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jane Customer http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5769 Jane Customer Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:42:48 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5769 Thank you for publishing your story. I think the laptop program is a bad one. It won't end, though. Who do you think benefits from all these laptops being sold? Unfortunately, their propaganda is louder than a lone citizen's story. Thank you for publishing your story. I think the laptop program is a bad one. It won’t end, though. Who do you think benefits from all these laptops being sold? Unfortunately, their propaganda is louder than a lone citizen’s story.

]]> By: RalphEvans http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5298 RalphEvans Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:07:54 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5298 Technology can monitor it. I use a D-Link router that has Securespot (only 3 models do) which has a blacklist of millions of porn & hate sites that are banned from anyone, even a prying 11 year old neighbor kid on wifi, from accessing bad sites. You could install net nanny or some other blacklist site. It's probably a good idea to have kid computer use in a common room like a den or dining room and not their closed door bedroom. Technology can monitor it. I use a D-Link router that has Securespot (only 3 models do) which has a blacklist of millions of porn & hate sites that are banned from anyone, even a prying 11 year old neighbor kid on wifi, from accessing bad sites. You could install net nanny or some other blacklist site.
It’s probably a good idea to have kid computer use in a common room like a den or dining room and not their closed door bedroom.

]]> By: The Fullerton Harpoon http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5297 The Fullerton Harpoon Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:36:52 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5297 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-5290"> <strong><a href="#comment-5290" rel="nofollow">Concerned Mother?</a> :</strong><P>The mother in this letter should be grateful her children are able to attend a school that offers a laptop program. Her letter displays just why our youth are misguided.</P></blockquote> That is a matter of opinion about the school. Please elucidate on why her letter displays why our youth are misguided. And which youth would that be?

Concerned Mother? :

The mother in this letter should be grateful her children are able to attend a school that offers a laptop program.

Her letter displays just why our youth are misguided.

That is a matter of opinion about the school. Please elucidate on why her letter displays why our youth are misguided. And which youth would that be?

]]> By: Sick to my Stomach http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5295 Sick to my Stomach Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:11:06 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5295 Did everyone just over look the part where the mother saw kids before and after school accessing unsecured internet? Looks like these kids can look at whatever while walking home from school or waiting for the bus. Also, you all sound very good at computers talking about all the technology, news flash folks most parents aren't! So maybe when the school said it was safe, parents thought that's what it meant. Plain and simple. Did everyone just over look the part where the mother saw kids before and after school accessing unsecured internet? Looks like these kids can look at whatever while walking home from school or waiting for the bus. Also, you all sound very good at computers talking about all the technology, news flash folks most parents aren’t! So maybe when the school said it was safe, parents thought that’s what it meant. Plain and simple.

]]> By: r4 nintendo ds http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5293 r4 nintendo ds Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:22:26 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5293 Its too bad, But School principal and staff of school is responsible for it. They can band it if they want to do it. i am suggesting to installing a software which not allow to access porn sites or as FTown local said. Hope they do some strong action for it. Its too bad, But School principal and staff of school is responsible for it. They can band it if they want to do it. i am suggesting to installing a software which not allow to access porn sites or as FTown local said.
Hope they do some strong action for it.

]]> By: Concerned Mother? http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5290 Concerned Mother? Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:46:24 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5290 The mother in this letter should be grateful her children are able to attend a school that offers a laptop program. Her letter displays just why our youth are misguided. The mother in this letter should be grateful her children are able to attend a school that offers a laptop program. Her letter displays just why our youth are misguided.

]]> By: dr_of_ed http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5287 dr_of_ed Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:11:04 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5287 Yes, I read the article. And anyone with more than an ounce of technical know-how can set up laptops *not* to connect to unsecured wireless networks. However, the point is *no* system, no laptop, no computer is100% safe. Why would anyone think differently, especially when such false assurances come from the district officials that so many posters here say they've never trusted (or respected, it seems)? What it comes down to is schools being smarter about the real world, and parents doing the difficult work of parenting. And there are plenty of clueless administrators and parents who aren't doing that difficult work, unfortunately. Yes, laptop security is a problem. Yes, it needs to be addressed. Yes, it needs to be fixed. But the histrionic writing in the article and spitting on the people who will end up doing the fixing isn't necessarily the best approach. Yes, I read the article. And anyone with more than an ounce of technical know-how can set up laptops *not* to connect to unsecured wireless networks.

However, the point is *no* system, no laptop, no computer is100% safe. Why would anyone think differently, especially when such false assurances come from the district officials that so many posters here say they’ve never trusted (or respected, it seems)?

What it comes down to is schools being smarter about the real world, and parents doing the difficult work of parenting. And there are plenty of clueless administrators and parents who aren’t doing that difficult work, unfortunately.

Yes, laptop security is a problem. Yes, it needs to be addressed. Yes, it needs to be fixed. But the histrionic writing in the article and spitting on the people who will end up doing the fixing isn’t necessarily the best approach.

]]> By: The Fullerton Harpoon http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5285 The Fullerton Harpoon Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:01:10 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5285 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-5283"> <strong><a href="#comment-5283" rel="nofollow">FTown local</a> :</strong><P> I would suggest that when something like this pops up, instead of looking for someone to blame, first ask yourself “What can I do to fix this problem?” </P> </blockquote> Agreed. We need a new school board.

FTown local :

I would suggest that when something like this pops up, instead of looking for someone to blame, first ask yourself “What can I do to fix this problem?”

Agreed. We need a new school board.

]]> By: FTown local http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5283 FTown local Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:44:06 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5283 I sincerely doubt that these kids are finding porn online by "accident." I'm guessing that when mom & dad aren't nearby they "find" the same stuff at home on their desktop pc. When I was kid I found porn in the form of magazines multiple times and in various public places. I was more than happy to peruse these magazines, particularly considering the cover price and my lack of income at the time. Then and now, the most common venue for these magazines is small independent liquor stores. I notice those stores aren't being derided as irresponsible purveyors of filth; the community isn't rallying to shut them down. But when a well-intentioned school program has a problem that allows curious kids to willfully access the stuff, they're horrible people who are trying to wreck our children? A little much, I think. As for trading files, they can placed on floppy disk (if you're pc is that old), cd, or flash memory. Hell, your kid might have 15 different email accounts online that you don't know about. You DO realize an email account works like online storage, too, right? I would suggest that when something like this pops up, instead of looking for someone to blame, first ask yourself "What can I do to fix this problem?" Worry about blame later--it's not nearly as important as you think it is. I sincerely doubt that these kids are finding porn online by “accident.” I’m guessing that when mom & dad aren’t nearby they “find” the same stuff at home on their desktop pc.

When I was kid I found porn in the form of magazines multiple times and in various public places. I was more than happy to peruse these magazines, particularly considering the cover price and my lack of income at the time.

Then and now, the most common venue for these magazines is small independent liquor stores. I notice those stores aren’t being derided as irresponsible purveyors of filth; the community isn’t rallying to shut them down.

But when a well-intentioned school program has a problem that allows curious kids to willfully access the stuff, they’re horrible people who are trying to wreck our children?

A little much, I think.

As for trading files, they can placed on floppy disk (if you’re pc is that old), cd, or flash memory.
Hell, your kid might have 15 different email accounts online that you don’t know about. You DO realize an email account works like online storage, too, right?

I would suggest that when something like this pops up, instead of looking for someone to blame, first ask yourself “What can I do to fix this problem?”

Worry about blame later–it’s not nearly as important as you think it is.

]]> By: Ben http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/school-laptops/#comment-5279 Ben Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:47:54 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=6392#comment-5279 Thank you, Harpoon. I might at that. Thank you, Harpoon. I might at that.

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