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	<title>Comments on: God-awful &#8220;Fox Village&#8221; Gets Even Worse!</title>
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		<title>By: just a guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6258</link>
		<dc:creator>just a guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would support any design that did not require a taxpayer subsidies to build. Bonus if the businesses that reside in the project were self-reliant and did not need government handouts to operate.

Of course none of this is possible as long as the redevelopment agency owns the property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would support any design that did not require a taxpayer subsidies to build. Bonus if the businesses that reside in the project were self-reliant and did not need government handouts to operate.</p>
<p>Of course none of this is possible as long as the redevelopment agency owns the property.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fullerton Harpoon</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6257</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fullerton Harpoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My alternative design is to sell the property with the understanding that future development will be designed by a published architect and will be free of RDRC review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My alternative design is to sell the property with the understanding that future development will be designed by a published architect and will be free of RDRC review.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. W</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6256</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone proposed an alternative design?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone proposed an alternative design?</p>
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		<title>By: The Fullerton Harpoon</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6255</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fullerton Harpoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Z doesn&#039;t know his ass from his elbow, unfortunately. I&#039;m hoping the FFFF redevelopment lawsuit settlement will include resettling Mr. Z elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Z doesn&#8217;t know his ass from his elbow, unfortunately. I&#8217;m hoping the FFFF redevelopment lawsuit settlement will include resettling Mr. Z elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This project is a farce!  The only reasonable behavior would be for Fullerton residents to boycott the supposed &quot;community&quot; meetings.. FFFF could make signs saying - - I&#039;m not a stupid Fullertonian, NO to Fox Block nightmare..

As for Mr. Z&#039;s statement, why isn&#039;t McDonalds rebuilding itself?  They are a $$$$M corporation.. However the real puzzle, is the City Council voted NO to moving the McDonalds but in the new plans, the McDonalds is at the Pomona/Chapman corner.. So, it&#039;s being rebuilt w/Redev funds and moving... Hm....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This project is a farce!  The only reasonable behavior would be for Fullerton residents to boycott the supposed &#8220;community&#8221; meetings.. FFFF could make signs saying &#8211; - I&#8217;m not a stupid Fullertonian, NO to Fox Block nightmare..</p>
<p>As for Mr. Z&#8217;s statement, why isn&#8217;t McDonalds rebuilding itself?  They are a $$$$M corporation.. However the real puzzle, is the City Council voted NO to moving the McDonalds but in the new plans, the McDonalds is at the Pomona/Chapman corner.. So, it&#8217;s being rebuilt w/Redev funds and moving&#8230; Hm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: downtown guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6253</link>
		<dc:creator>downtown guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant wait for Joes to Open....another great bar by Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant wait for Joes to Open&#8230;.another great bar by Jack</p>
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		<title>By: thedivinemissk</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6233</link>
		<dc:creator>thedivinemissk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit!
What is this?
I&#039;ve seen this --it&#039;s in every city from Santa Monica to Irvine and beyond.
This is over the top for that location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit!<br />
What is this?<br />
I&#8217;ve seen this &#8211;it&#8217;s in every city from Santa Monica to Irvine and beyond.<br />
This is over the top for that location.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/god-awful-fox-village-gets-even-worse/#comment-6232</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, at the most recent meeting Rob Zur Schmiede said that it is not possible to complete this redevelopment project without rebuilding the McDonalds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, at the most recent meeting Rob Zur Schmiede said that it is not possible to complete this redevelopment project without rebuilding the McDonalds.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Circus, circus.. Isn&#039;t the point to showcase the Fox Fullerton?  Shouldn&#039;t the Fox Fullerton be the &quot;star&quot;, &quot;centerpeice&quot;?  

Could Redevelopment/City be angry at the Fox?  City didn&#039;t want to play ball w/Fox all these years, now has taken over one piece of the prize (all retail space), looking to take over the whole project?  Maybe it&#039;s a suble way of saying, if you don&#039;t give us the whole pie, we will surround you w/the worst project imaginable...

Also, I understand the developers taut their Fox Pomona expertise/experience.  Has anyone seen the Fox Pomona lately?  I have, drove by it yesterday.. It&#039;s just massive,   almost a 10 story box, sits on 1/2 city block in downtown Pomona.  Outside? has no asethetic value that I can see, big marquee is all.. The more attractive Fox is in Riverside which is being restored.. 

And, as for a 7 screen Laemmle Theatre.. As much as I&#039;d like not to drive to Irvine, Costa Mesa for the more independent films, why 7 screens?  Has anyone seen the new City/Laemmle space in Claremont?  I drove by that yesterday too.. It&#039;s west of downtown, says low to the ground, maybe 3 big stories, has only 5 screens.. Fits nicely into the surrounding neighborhood, doesn&#039;t tower over the exisiting homes, businesses..

As for Claremont, there&#039;s a real Education community.  Darling downtown, vibrant, NOT ALL bars, restaurants.. A place we&#039;ll go more frequently, now that we&#039;ve discovered a 50 year old Greek restaurant w/amazing food...

Also, see the new renderings move McDonalds to the Pomona/Chapman corner, thought this was defeated, they stay where they are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Circus, circus.. Isn&#8217;t the point to showcase the Fox Fullerton?  Shouldn&#8217;t the Fox Fullerton be the &#8220;star&#8221;, &#8220;centerpeice&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Could Redevelopment/City be angry at the Fox?  City didn&#8217;t want to play ball w/Fox all these years, now has taken over one piece of the prize (all retail space), looking to take over the whole project?  Maybe it&#8217;s a suble way of saying, if you don&#8217;t give us the whole pie, we will surround you w/the worst project imaginable&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, I understand the developers taut their Fox Pomona expertise/experience.  Has anyone seen the Fox Pomona lately?  I have, drove by it yesterday.. It&#8217;s just massive,   almost a 10 story box, sits on 1/2 city block in downtown Pomona.  Outside? has no asethetic value that I can see, big marquee is all.. The more attractive Fox is in Riverside which is being restored.. </p>
<p>And, as for a 7 screen Laemmle Theatre.. As much as I&#8217;d like not to drive to Irvine, Costa Mesa for the more independent films, why 7 screens?  Has anyone seen the new City/Laemmle space in Claremont?  I drove by that yesterday too.. It&#8217;s west of downtown, says low to the ground, maybe 3 big stories, has only 5 screens.. Fits nicely into the surrounding neighborhood, doesn&#8217;t tower over the exisiting homes, businesses..</p>
<p>As for Claremont, there&#8217;s a real Education community.  Darling downtown, vibrant, NOT ALL bars, restaurants.. A place we&#8217;ll go more frequently, now that we&#8217;ve discovered a 50 year old Greek restaurant w/amazing food&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, see the new renderings move McDonalds to the Pomona/Chapman corner, thought this was defeated, they stay where they are?</p>
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		<title>By: JustAGuyinFullerton</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAGuyinFullerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t the whole point of &quot;saving the Fox&quot; to preserve this &quot;historical landmark&quot;?  What&#039;s the point of preserving a historical landmark if you&#039;re just going to build something new on top of it.

Now, I&#039;m not entirely opposed to making the area more appealing, but we could&#039;ve bulldozed the complex and just put up a shopping center for a lot less money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the whole point of &#8220;saving the Fox&#8221; to preserve this &#8220;historical landmark&#8221;?  What&#8217;s the point of preserving a historical landmark if you&#8217;re just going to build something new on top of it.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not entirely opposed to making the area more appealing, but we could&#8217;ve bulldozed the complex and just put up a shopping center for a lot less money.</p>
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