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	<title>Comments on: Fox Block: Fullerton Rejects Fake Old McSpanish Architecture</title>
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		<title>By: van get it da artiste</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2781</link>
		<dc:creator>van get it da artiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[read today&#039;s OC Register article that shows city of fullerton&#039;s revenue dropped an unanticapated $500,000 this revenue year. Using my crystal ball and our recent unemployment stats, stock market steady dropping and businesses going broke, I bet city o fullerton will have even less revenue for the coming two three years. Maybe fullerton&#039;s redevelopment should stick their plans for old mcfake spanish where no one will find it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read today&#8217;s OC Register article that shows city of fullerton&#8217;s revenue dropped an unanticapated $500,000 this revenue year. Using my crystal ball and our recent unemployment stats, stock market steady dropping and businesses going broke, I bet city o fullerton will have even less revenue for the coming two three years. Maybe fullerton&#8217;s redevelopment should stick their plans for old mcfake spanish where no one will find it.</p>
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		<title>By: martin b</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>martin b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The McDonalds issue is back to the council on Tuesday for final approval. I think someone needs to raise the McSpanish issue in light of this new development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McDonalds issue is back to the council on Tuesday for final approval. I think someone needs to raise the McSpanish issue in light of this new development.</p>
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		<title>By: College Park Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2777</link>
		<dc:creator>College Park Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[City Hall-imposed architecture is horrible--typical example is the worst looking bldg. dowtown--SE Comonwealth/Harbor. So fake old it has a fake second story.

Let&#039;s open things up with steel and lotsa glass.
That new Spanish restaurant downtown is cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City Hall-imposed architecture is horrible&#8211;typical example is the worst looking bldg. dowtown&#8211;SE Comonwealth/Harbor. So fake old it has a fake second story.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s open things up with steel and lotsa glass.<br />
That new Spanish restaurant downtown is cool.</p>
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		<title>By: thedivinemissk</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2776</link>
		<dc:creator>thedivinemissk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old juxtaposed against new is common in cities. Why we should see homogeneity as a desirable stamp is beyond me. In fashion parlance we&#039;d say,  &quot;It&#039;s a bit matchy matchy.&quot; The MacDonalds can stay where it is and a really good architect will figure out how to make it all work. 

It&#039;s just a shame they already knocked down all those houses. 
But this gives me no end of pleasure. I remember being in a meeting run by the city in conjunction with Fullerton Heritage and hearing that they had &quot;decided&quot; that the McSpanish architecture would be the prevalent look in the downtown area. When really, it&#039;s silly. I suspect if you go back there was always a mix. What has really wrecked downtown is all that fake brick, the choice of colors, and those huge blocky edifices devoid of character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old juxtaposed against new is common in cities. Why we should see homogeneity as a desirable stamp is beyond me. In fashion parlance we&#8217;d say,  &#8220;It&#8217;s a bit matchy matchy.&#8221; The MacDonalds can stay where it is and a really good architect will figure out how to make it all work. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a shame they already knocked down all those houses.<br />
But this gives me no end of pleasure. I remember being in a meeting run by the city in conjunction with Fullerton Heritage and hearing that they had &#8220;decided&#8221; that the McSpanish architecture would be the prevalent look in the downtown area. When really, it&#8217;s silly. I suspect if you go back there was always a mix. What has really wrecked downtown is all that fake brick, the choice of colors, and those huge blocky edifices devoid of character.</p>
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		<title>By: Yessum</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2775</link>
		<dc:creator>Yessum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right ON !!!  Right On FFFF !!!!!!!!! Fake old Sucks and doesn&#039;t last either !  Just look at the South East corner of Harbor and Commonwealth where the Domino&#039;s pizza is located....  Cracks and stains galore and looks laim  --- and a fake second story to top it all off !

Check it out !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right ON !!!  Right On FFFF !!!!!!!!! Fake old Sucks and doesn&#8217;t last either !  Just look at the South East corner of Harbor and Commonwealth where the Domino&#8217;s pizza is located&#8230;.  Cracks and stains galore and looks laim  &#8212; and a fake second story to top it all off !</p>
<p>Check it out !</p>
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		<title>By: van get it da artiste</title>
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		<dc:creator>van get it da artiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFFF thank you for your efforts. If not for your blog, fake old mcspanish would dominate our town. with FFFF exposure of fullerton&#039;s fools, our town may be allowed to establish its own architectural identity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFFF thank you for your efforts. If not for your blog, fake old mcspanish would dominate our town. with FFFF exposure of fullerton&#8217;s fools, our town may be allowed to establish its own architectural identity</p>
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		<title>By: just a guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, back to the drawing board for that ugly mcdonalds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, back to the drawing board for that ugly mcdonalds.</p>
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		<title>By: SHOVELGUY</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2771</link>
		<dc:creator>SHOVELGUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF THAT&#039;S THE CASE THEY BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT NEW MCDONALDS BECAUSE IT&#039;S GOING TO LOOK PRETTY STUPID NEXT TO A CONTEMPORARY MONSTER!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF THAT&#8217;S THE CASE THEY BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT NEW MCDONALDS BECAUSE IT&#8217;S GOING TO LOOK PRETTY STUPID NEXT TO A CONTEMPORARY MONSTER!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Kiger</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2769</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Kiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said, Miss K. As we move forward, I think McSpanish buildings will end up symbolizing the wastefulness and absurdity of the great housing bubble, and nothing more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, Miss K. As we move forward, I think McSpanish buildings will end up symbolizing the wastefulness and absurdity of the great housing bubble, and nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: thedivinemissk</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/fox-block-fullerton-rejects-fake-old-mcspanish-architecture/#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>thedivinemissk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the hatred of fake old has been simmering for a very long time. One look at most of the developments built in throughout Orange County the past twenty years (Coto De Caza? Newport Coast?) --as well as the &quot;lifestyle&quot; that goes with it is part of this boil over. Those who have been here for a long time remember the days of open spaces and of being able to build the home of your choice. We remember scrub, yards that weren&#039;t perfect, homes of different colors. Cookie cutter anything, while sadly accepted, grates against the very essence of being a westerner.

 I love the old Spanish/Mediterranean architecture. But &quot;fake old&quot; is an aberration. You simply can&#039;t replicate the scale used then, and that&#039;s often the first thing to go. So you end up with a mass of houses like the ones on Bastanchury, at the end of Skyline, or buildings like the ones going up at Fullerton college. While some might argue that they&#039;re aesthetically easier to take in, the net effect of McSpanish is that it settles us into a state of sleep walking, and it takes away from the real thing.

I think there&#039;s room in this city for a viewpoint that recognizes  the value in modern architecture, the willingness to look forward. We&#039;ve done it before. The swim club on Victoria, Hunt foods and library, even the complex that was recently torn down on Chapman. I&#039;d rather see progressive architecture than yet another McSpanish McMonster with fake columns, an entry way three stories high with cheap vinyl windows and green grass mow strips.

So good, we&#039;re making progress. Hats off to this blog. Creating movements, forging understanding isn&#039;t an easy thing, nor does it necessarily gain you friends. But I think it&#039;s been needed. May the cabal of homogeneity crumble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hatred of fake old has been simmering for a very long time. One look at most of the developments built in throughout Orange County the past twenty years (Coto De Caza? Newport Coast?) &#8211;as well as the &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; that goes with it is part of this boil over. Those who have been here for a long time remember the days of open spaces and of being able to build the home of your choice. We remember scrub, yards that weren&#8217;t perfect, homes of different colors. Cookie cutter anything, while sadly accepted, grates against the very essence of being a westerner.</p>
<p> I love the old Spanish/Mediterranean architecture. But &#8220;fake old&#8221; is an aberration. You simply can&#8217;t replicate the scale used then, and that&#8217;s often the first thing to go. So you end up with a mass of houses like the ones on Bastanchury, at the end of Skyline, or buildings like the ones going up at Fullerton college. While some might argue that they&#8217;re aesthetically easier to take in, the net effect of McSpanish is that it settles us into a state of sleep walking, and it takes away from the real thing.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s room in this city for a viewpoint that recognizes  the value in modern architecture, the willingness to look forward. We&#8217;ve done it before. The swim club on Victoria, Hunt foods and library, even the complex that was recently torn down on Chapman. I&#8217;d rather see progressive architecture than yet another McSpanish McMonster with fake columns, an entry way three stories high with cheap vinyl windows and green grass mow strips.</p>
<p>So good, we&#8217;re making progress. Hats off to this blog. Creating movements, forging understanding isn&#8217;t an easy thing, nor does it necessarily gain you friends. But I think it&#8217;s been needed. May the cabal of homogeneity crumble.</p>
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