Comments on: Fullerton’s City Lights – FUBAR From the Word Go – Part I http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/ Friends for Fullerton's Future supports candidates and causes that promote intelligent, responsible and accountable government in Fullerton and Orange County Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:56:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: A Day at the Races http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-125116 A Day at the Races Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:14:39 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-125116 [...] gave away the public sidewalk to the Florentine mob, and who played a pivotal role in every single Jan Flory approved boondoggle from 1994 through 2002. Whirlaway. Win, place or [...]

]]> By: Matt Leslie http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1290 Matt Leslie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:57:10 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1290 Oh, and we are going to pay $ 5 million dollars to move a McDonald’s closer to a high school to make room for the Fox Block. As far as I know this has long been part of the Fox Block plan, which involved tearing down several perfectly good bungalows on the now vacant new site.

Not content to look like just any McDonald’s, the new building style imitates that of the adjacent high school, making it….yes, McSpanish Revival.

You can see the lovely rendering here:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mcdonald-frisbie-million-2371936-agency-move

]]> By: Matt Leslie http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1287 Matt Leslie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:38:07 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1287 Well, several things, but here are two of them:

1. Despite efforts by Shawn Nelson to stop the McSpanish and/or “contemporary” design mess put forth by The Olson Co. for the Richman affordable housing project, the council went ahead with it as planned. The worst part was the Olson claimed it would cost half a million more for what they charitably called their contemporary design. That claim was disputed, but a majority council vote let the project go forward. At least there is supposed to be some commitment to LEED standards.

2. The council, on a split two/three vote with Jones and Bankhead dissenting, voted to proceed with developing a design for the renovation/destruction, etc. of the community center/boys-girls club, senior center. Don Bankhead asked (very sensibly it seemed to me) if he could see some sort of simple conceptual drawing of the project before committing over a million dollars to a design process. No one could produce one, and they went ahead with the allocation anyway. Watch it yourself here in case I mixed up any of it up. It was late.

http://www.cityoffullerton.com/about/meetings_live.asp#bodyTop

What distressed me most was just watching the council trying to figure out what made a good building. We really need to hold some sort of an educational forum about the subject. That is, if there is anything left of Fullerton to save at this point.

]]> By: The Fullerton Harpoon http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1285 The Fullerton Harpoon Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:21:40 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1285 Matt, I missed the meeting. What happened?

]]> By: Matt Leslie http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1284 Matt Leslie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:17:23 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1284 And since then Rob Quigley has gone on to design scores of other notable projects including the new San Diego Public Library (!!), while Fullerton is known as a place to fall asleep staring at cheap stucco garbage buildings after throwing up on the sidewalk outside of a a bar. Fullerton: Planning Skid Row for the future.

Did anyone see the city council meeting last night? Is there anything left to fight for?

]]> By: LOUD MOUTH http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1256 LOUD MOUTH Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:51:45 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1256 Silence Dogood II, “I personally have had staff whisper in my ear of Bushalas with words of malicious jealousy”, FOR GOD SAKES, WHO ARE THE BUSHALA’S? AND WHEN YOU USE THE FOUR LETTER WORD “city” WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

]]> By: Pyrohistoricus http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1255 Pyrohistoricus Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:08:33 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1255 Hey, you guys. How about a post on all the historic buildings in Fullerton that have burned down?

]]> By: Silence Dogood II http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1254 Silence Dogood II Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:48:14 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1254 It’s a shame when the city loses it’s dignity and way..mainly, that they are here to serve the public good, not their own interests and agendas. I personally have had staff whisper in my ear of Bushalas with words of malicious jealousy. We’ve all watched one ugly project after the next get built. How hard is it to demand more from staff and developers on projects where the peoples money is being spent. Particularly if it’s a subsidy!
Personalities aside, the spending of tax dollars demands a high level of integrity AND efficiency on the part of all involved, not the least of which is our council/red agency. And if they don’t know good architecture, they should ask. I mean, how hard is it to look at the original vintage styles and see that what’s built now to immitate what’s old is not indeed flattering at all. If it can’t be done at reasonable cost, then chose another style that’s authentic, that will last and stand the test of time. It doesn’t take much..isn’t that what we hired our electeds to do?

]]> By: admin http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1253 admin Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:44:43 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1253 (how in the world did you have a photo of that handy?)

Glad you asked that, Dave. FFFF has an impressive inventory of Fullerton Redevelopment fiasco images.

]]> By: Dom Talton http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/city-lights-fubar-from-the-word-go-part-i/#comment-1252 Dom Talton Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:40:29 +0000 http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=787#comment-1252 This was just an old house. It was not on the list. If it’s not on the list it can’t be historicaI.

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