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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8335</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the infamous Fullerton muskrat, the Jerb? or has he changed his pattern of responding to the name Jerb and is now Secret Squirrel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the infamous Fullerton muskrat, the Jerb? or has he changed his pattern of responding to the name Jerb and is now Secret Squirrel?</p>
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		<title>By: William H. Shakespeare</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8308</link>
		<dc:creator>William H. Shakespeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaketh Polonius:

My liege, and madam, to expostulate
What majesty should be, what duty is,
What day is day, night night, and time is time,
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time;
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief. Your noble son is mad. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaketh Polonius:</p>
<p>My liege, and madam, to expostulate<br />
What majesty should be, what duty is,<br />
What day is day, night night, and time is time,<br />
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time;<br />
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,<br />
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,<br />
I will be brief. Your noble son is mad. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sipowicz</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8307</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sipowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. Trust no one. We actually have had commenters use different handles which is okay with us. Of course we may call them on it!

The use of a real person&#039;s name is a problem because of the anonymity of the internet. In the case of &quot;Lou Correa&quot; it was pretty evident that is was a (very feeble) attempt at sarcasm by somebody who thinks FFFF should prefer some carpetbagging puppet as a representative. Wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. Trust no one. We actually have had commenters use different handles which is okay with us. Of course we may call them on it!</p>
<p>The use of a real person&#8217;s name is a problem because of the anonymity of the internet. In the case of &#8220;Lou Correa&#8221; it was pretty evident that is was a (very feeble) attempt at sarcasm by somebody who thinks FFFF should prefer some carpetbagging puppet as a representative. Wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Been there</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8306</link>
		<dc:creator>Been there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they delete comments here. Nothing wrong with what you wrote, I was just suggesting that it might help people to read your comments a little better if you cut them down a little bit.

I guess the whole fake Lou Correa incident touches on a concept that I keep reading on this blog: Ideas stand or fall without regard to who says them. Trust no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they delete comments here. Nothing wrong with what you wrote, I was just suggesting that it might help people to read your comments a little better if you cut them down a little bit.</p>
<p>I guess the whole fake Lou Correa incident touches on a concept that I keep reading on this blog: Ideas stand or fall without regard to who says them. Trust no one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rain</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8305</link>
		<dc:creator>Rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding.  I had missed Joe&#039;s note until after I posted my comment and then reread the page.

There is a lot of &quot;inside baseball&quot; on the site and I am WAY DOWN the learning curve.  Consequently, I was really taken aback by the phony &quot;Correa&quot; comment, in that it made me question my past reading.

I also recognize the difficulty of my &quot;saying more&quot; than would perhaps be best in this situation.  Please just delete my comments (if that is possible?) if that would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding.  I had missed Joe&#8217;s note until after I posted my comment and then reread the page.</p>
<p>There is a lot of &#8220;inside baseball&#8221; on the site and I am WAY DOWN the learning curve.  Consequently, I was really taken aback by the phony &#8220;Correa&#8221; comment, in that it made me question my past reading.</p>
<p>I also recognize the difficulty of my &#8220;saying more&#8221; than would perhaps be best in this situation.  Please just delete my comments (if that is possible?) if that would help.</p>
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		<title>By: Been there</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8304</link>
		<dc:creator>Been there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rain, I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, and now I hope you can appreciate mine:

Sometimes you can say more by saying less.

Also, this is the first incident of impersonation that I have noticed on this site. Joe called it out, and that&#039;s probably all that needs to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rain, I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, and now I hope you can appreciate mine:</p>
<p>Sometimes you can say more by saying less.</p>
<p>Also, this is the first incident of impersonation that I have noticed on this site. Joe called it out, and that&#8217;s probably all that needs to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Rain</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8303</link>
		<dc:creator>Rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not as familiar with &quot;blogging&quot; as, evidently, I should be.  I don&#039;t know what &quot;can be&quot; controlled versus what &quot;cannot&quot; be controlled (i.e. by the moderator, etc.).

It seems there is ample opportunity for individuals to use made up names (e.g. &quot;Rain&quot;) if they wish to comment anonymously.

There is also the device of using made up character names in order to perhaps sort of take on the character of another individual, for example the poster who uses the name &quot;Jan Flory&#039;s Dog&quot;).

These things can be readily recognized and understood by even a casual, occasional or uninformed reader of this (or any other) blog.

The difficulty that I have just now realized is that some of the contributors to this blog will evidently use the actual name of another  individual, and thus impersonate another person (who is usually the topic of that posting topic or discussion).

The example above, where someone posted a comment using the name &quot;Lou Correa&quot; seems to be a case of someone impersonating another individual.

Unless you are &quot;in the know&quot; about this tactic, it can be confusing to your readers (and of course, damaging to the individual being impersonated).

If someone wants to pretend to respond to the thread of discussion, as though they were the individual being pilloried in the sarcasm and barbs thrown here and there, they should make it CRYSTAL clear, what they are doing.  Call yourself &quot;Lou Korea&quot; or something like that, because probably very few participants in the discussion will actually know, say, Lou Correa, well enough to anticipate exactly how he might in fact respond to the comments on this blog topic (and thus be able to detect a fake).

In my life, I&#039;ve found that when I REALLY do not like an individual (i.e. in public life, political office, etc.), then I am particularly pleased to &quot;let them talk&quot; as much and as freely as possible, because then MORE people will find out who and what that (i.e. undesirable, in my opinion) person is like.  But I detest the practice of what now pretends to be our &quot;news media&quot; which now operates to muzzle and/or distort (via little snippet sound bites - removing context, or otherwise distorting, etc.) the words of an individual who the &quot;main stream media&quot; (i.e. the Democrats-Communist Party media) wish to attack and destroy.

The new media of Internet and blogging, etc. certainly does not need to distort and falsify the words of public officials, the &quot;MSM&quot; does that &quot;for us&quot; already.

I actually (previously) thought that when someone using the name &quot;Chris Norby&quot; posted a comment here, that in fact it was, Chris Norby, who wrote that comment.

Yikes!  This is a problem (at least for me, in my use of this blog, as a source of information or whether actual real life individuals have written the things attributed to them herein).

I hope that my thoughts on this are recognized as an attempt to be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not as familiar with &#8220;blogging&#8221; as, evidently, I should be.  I don&#8217;t know what &#8220;can be&#8221; controlled versus what &#8220;cannot&#8221; be controlled (i.e. by the moderator, etc.).</p>
<p>It seems there is ample opportunity for individuals to use made up names (e.g. &#8220;Rain&#8221;) if they wish to comment anonymously.</p>
<p>There is also the device of using made up character names in order to perhaps sort of take on the character of another individual, for example the poster who uses the name &#8220;Jan Flory&#8217;s Dog&#8221;).</p>
<p>These things can be readily recognized and understood by even a casual, occasional or uninformed reader of this (or any other) blog.</p>
<p>The difficulty that I have just now realized is that some of the contributors to this blog will evidently use the actual name of another  individual, and thus impersonate another person (who is usually the topic of that posting topic or discussion).</p>
<p>The example above, where someone posted a comment using the name &#8220;Lou Correa&#8221; seems to be a case of someone impersonating another individual.</p>
<p>Unless you are &#8220;in the know&#8221; about this tactic, it can be confusing to your readers (and of course, damaging to the individual being impersonated).</p>
<p>If someone wants to pretend to respond to the thread of discussion, as though they were the individual being pilloried in the sarcasm and barbs thrown here and there, they should make it CRYSTAL clear, what they are doing.  Call yourself &#8220;Lou Korea&#8221; or something like that, because probably very few participants in the discussion will actually know, say, Lou Correa, well enough to anticipate exactly how he might in fact respond to the comments on this blog topic (and thus be able to detect a fake).</p>
<p>In my life, I&#8217;ve found that when I REALLY do not like an individual (i.e. in public life, political office, etc.), then I am particularly pleased to &#8220;let them talk&#8221; as much and as freely as possible, because then MORE people will find out who and what that (i.e. undesirable, in my opinion) person is like.  But I detest the practice of what now pretends to be our &#8220;news media&#8221; which now operates to muzzle and/or distort (via little snippet sound bites &#8211; removing context, or otherwise distorting, etc.) the words of an individual who the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; (i.e. the Democrats-Communist Party media) wish to attack and destroy.</p>
<p>The new media of Internet and blogging, etc. certainly does not need to distort and falsify the words of public officials, the &#8220;MSM&#8221; does that &#8220;for us&#8221; already.</p>
<p>I actually (previously) thought that when someone using the name &#8220;Chris Norby&#8221; posted a comment here, that in fact it was, Chris Norby, who wrote that comment.</p>
<p>Yikes!  This is a problem (at least for me, in my use of this blog, as a source of information or whether actual real life individuals have written the things attributed to them herein).</p>
<p>I hope that my thoughts on this are recognized as an attempt to be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: gerbil Jerbal</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8302</link>
		<dc:creator>gerbil Jerbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Cunningham outed sex-abuse victims.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Sipowicz</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8298</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sipowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lou Correa&quot; formerly known as Beware of Cannibals, if you can cough up a decent candidate instead of crypto-nutjobs let us know!

And you can stop pretending you care about poor, musunderstood Shawn Nelson. Soon you&#039;ll be pimping Tom Daly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lou Correa&#8221; formerly known as Beware of Cannibals, if you can cough up a decent candidate instead of crypto-nutjobs let us know!</p>
<p>And you can stop pretending you care about poor, musunderstood Shawn Nelson. Soon you&#8217;ll be pimping Tom Daly.</p>
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		<title>By: Hollis Dugan</title>
		<link>http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2009/another-carpetbagger-bites-the-carpet/#comment-8297</link>
		<dc:creator>Hollis Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,

I&#039;m still lookin to put a boot in your ass over that tax vote but you are a man of character and I admire that. In an era where banners are flown by folks (Ackermans and Jerbal come to mind) that actually do nothing more than throw the innocent voter off the scent, you stand up for what you believe and take the heat straight on.

 We can disagree on the tax vote (or you can admit I am right and you were wrong), agree on the second ammendment and still be firends. Go get &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still lookin to put a boot in your ass over that tax vote but you are a man of character and I admire that. In an era where banners are flown by folks (Ackermans and Jerbal come to mind) that actually do nothing more than throw the innocent voter off the scent, you stand up for what you believe and take the heat straight on.</p>
<p> We can disagree on the tax vote (or you can admit I am right and you were wrong), agree on the second ammendment and still be firends. Go get &#8216;em.</p>
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